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Is this online only? Not a fan of that.

I wonder if this is because Sega wants to go back to making consoles.

All they had to do was give us a proper new entry, but no, they had to go all live services on us. How did that work out?

While Microsoft is firing everybody at Xbox they should fire Phil while they're at it.

@axelhander Exactly how I feel. Put me in Phils position and I would have this whole brand turned around before they knew what happened. It's like Microsoft has the worst people in charge of everything right now and they are allowing them to just burn everything down.

Put a fork in it Xbox is done.

Xbox really dropped a bomb when they did their hardware price hike. To me that signaled the company no longer even trying to really be competitive anymore. I mean a Series X can now cost more than a PS5 Pro despite being older and inferior hardware with equivalent storage capacity. The Series S just no longer makes any sense to me, while I thought it was a great little console before and I got one and bought an xscreen for it. Right now, Xbox in it's current state, and no longer having much in the way of exclusives, I don't think I would bother with it.

@Jenkinss Judging by the feedback on Steam, I would have to conclude a definite no on that one.

"Buy it quick!"

No, I'm good lol. Whoever wants this can have it.

@AccessibleDaydream Yeah it's like Microsoft just keeps working overtime trying to figure out ways to make the console feel worse.

@GuyinPA75 Yeah I have been installing Open Office ever since. All I need is a basic word processor or spreadsheet program, why subscribe to something like that?

What is with this obsession lately to create more UI bloat?

@GuyinPA75 Yeah it seems like Xbox has become obsessed with cloud this, cloud that, and their subscriptions. Not what I want when I just want to play a video game.

@TheGameThrifter Yup the classic "jack of all trades master of none" scenario.

I feel like Xbox is REALLY late to the VR scene. It seems like that has been really winding down lately, with most people who were interested having tried it out already and only the real VR enthusiasts really being fans of it. Like are they really going to release a bunch of VR games on Xbox now hoping this suddenly becomes a big hit?

Yeah the 360 truly became my console of choice when it comes to something older. Graphics hold up well on modern TV's, especially if you have the later models with HDMI, and the backwards compatibility is fantastic if you have a collection of old 360 and original Xbox games. I used to love the PS3 but it feels like it really aged poorly by comparison.

@VeganHerpes Yeah that's where I'm at for next gen, I plan on just going with a new gaming PC and sticking to that because I am tired of all the forced and overpriced subscriptions as well as all the nonsense with the present day industry. Why stick to consoles when they become more PC like? Might as well just get a PC where I can have the freedom to run whatever OS I choose, play games online without needing a subscription, and freely upgrade the hardware whenever and however I like.

To me the appeal of consoles feels like it's mostly been lost by this point, especially when it comes to Xbox. I liked the simplicity and enhanced access to all my backlog, but the consoles I already have seem to give me all the backlog access I could want and as far as I can tell no consoles besides the Switch 2 are going to have much in the way of exclusives.

No, not really.

@Elbow By this point it feels like they are more concerned with trying to sell us latest hardware than they are with actually giving us games to play on it.

I don't know and I don't care. This will be my last traditional console generation at this rate.

@Netret0120 Yeah I have no idea why they would be trying to rush into a next gen so soon when most new AAA releases are still being sold as "crossgen" titles. Heck they still had some big releases this year exclusive to last-gen consoles, Capcom Fighting Collection 2 comes to mind. That and any real big releases seem to take years and years to develop, it's why this gen has been feeling like it's just sort of started to get somewhere. I just really have no desire to be getting into a next generation of consoles right now. Heck this gen has been real heavy on the remasters and remakes anyways, I have a hard time seeing a next gen having anything significant going for it for a long time.

Thing is I am not really sure why I would even want a next gen Xbox by this point. Microsoft seems to be determined to release all of their games on Playstation and the Series X as well as the Xbox One has already had all of the backwards compatibility I could want that they seem to be willing to deliver. I just don't see the selling point for getting a next gen device from them. What are they going to sell it to me with, Gamepass? That's not good enough to sell me on an entire console.

My plan for next gen is simple: buying a gaming PC. Until then I'll just stay with my Series X and PS5 Pro.

@Jenkinss Yeah I would like to see a Forza Horizon more like the first two with street racing meetup spots, car meet locations, and more of a proper focus on just racing around the map against some rivals. In fact I think they could do away with the whole "festival" theme entirely, it just feels so unnecessary by now.

Forza Motorsport feels cooked after the live services "reboot" or whatever you could call it. They had a great opportunity to create a more classic and offline playable alternative to GT7 and instead they made something even more online dependent that just isn't nearly as good in any way. Now I honestly couldn't care less about the games, I have moved on to other games for what Forza Motorsport games used to deliver. Sad because it was such a great franchise but I no longer have any faith in Turn 10, it just isn't the developer it once was.

I really don't see the point of this over the earlier GOW remake/remaster. I think the entire purpose for this was simply producing a version of the game that can run on a PS5 so they can sell it there.

@TapeLoader Yeah I had a similar issue of just not getting enough out of most Gamepass games, or subscription games in general really. I got a lot of games that I like so these subscription games are usually passive interests I just play here and there. As I've gotten older a year just seems to go by pretty fast and the value just doesn't seem to be there anymore.

@CaptainCluck Yup I've been trying to eliminate subscriptions or reduce them at the very least. Can't justify these "premium" subscriptions anymore with their consistent price increases, just not worth it to me anymore, I would rather spend that money buying games I actually want.

@Fishysensei Yeah the PS5 Pro just released less than a year ago and it's got games that are capable of being played in 8k. That and console generations have been improving less and less it seems, like going from my One X to Series X was a notable improvement but mostly due to storage improvements, not that big when it comes to graphics, the One X was capable of some pretty impressive results especially for it's time. That and games take forever to develop now a days as well, even if they released next gen consoles soon I bet it would take years for there to be much in the way of games to take advantage of them. Heck loads of new games for this current gen are STILL being released as cross-gen titles with previous-gen compatibility. That and there is still some notable releases as of recent exclusive to last gen, such as Capcom Fighting Collection 2 for example. I just don't see the point in going for a next gen anytime soon.

With Xbox going 3'rd party I don't even see the purpose of getting a next gen console from them.

Makes sense, Xbox just can't seem to do anything good anymore.

I got a high-end high-speed 4TB M2 drive for my PS5 Pro for $300, and they're charging $500 for this?

Yeah, no way this is worth it for me. Honestly have to wonder who can justify these prices Microsoft is trying to charge for their hardware now.

Looks chaotic. I think this concept works best as a 2D platformer but who knows, this could be fun. Probably not my thing though, I am not a fan of games that try to be frustrating.

Always loved the Japanese suburban/countryside setting for this one. Should look beautiful now with remade graphics!

Well obviously the new Forza is going to be Horizon 6, not sure why they are even trying to hide that, if it's anything else everyone is going to be very disappointed.

Well I like it a lot better than Sony's streaming handheld, that's for sure. Design doesn't look as attractive but the fact that you can properly install games on this Xbox handheld means that doesn't matter, it's far more than just a screen with a controller attached that can stream stuff. That said I bet these will be pretty expensive and it really competes directly with my Steam Deck.

It's looking like Xbox is doomed right now. Hardware has become overpriced, games no longer exclusive, cancelling plans for a handheld, it's just not a brand with a bright future right now.

@Fishysensei Same here. Could never understand the need for watching these shows just to watch the trailer for some game a few minutes before it's all over the internet.

@Brigurugi Well I've been playing the game and I noticed improvements.

I thought WRC10 was great, not a fan of Generations though. As for Milestone I think they really peaked with Ride 4, fantastic game, GOAT motorcycle game even, but Ride 5 felt like it went backwards and I just haven't been a real fan of their latest work.

As for KT's TDU Solar Crown I think that became a good game over time. I think the criticism was mostly deserved in it's early days but the game I've been playing has been very enjoyable as a big fan of the old TDU titles.

Impossible, I was told Avowed was a big hit that everybody loved!

Maybe. I have a ton of Xbox games in my library so it would probably be worthwhile. I just feel like the handheld market has become oversaturated lately though and I only have use for so many handhelds.

Odd, I think it's just kind of an ugly controller anyways lol

Well it's better than Avowed.

@Jenkinss Exactly. Streaming = some corporation has all the software and all of your access can be taken away whenever. People can say what they want about downloading, but owning software in your library and being able to download and install it does work as preservation, especially if you take your console offline. I have multiple Xbox One consoles I took offline and they all have a bunch of games from my library I downloaded and installed on them, and they work. With streaming it's like you're completely tied down to your internet connection and bound by the subscription service, and these services have a bad tendency of eventually removing games you might like.

I was interested until they said streaming.

Nope, that's a no-go for me.

I think the N64 game is an all-time classic and probably the most sophisticated FPS of it's era right along with Half-Life. It's sequel however was just so so, not a bad game but nothing spectacular. This new one looks like more of that.

@RiverGenie Yeah I'd say handheld battery powered air dusters are an essential item for any electronics enthusiast. Much better than the old duster cans and saves you a lot of money in the long run, and they work very well. I usually just put it up to the intake and exhaust holes and it does a good job of blowing most dust out.

I remember how partial disassembly and cleaning was basically a necessity when it came to the old PS4's. Something about the PS4's design made it prone to collecting dust in areas that would cause issues like the old "jet engine" fan noise complaint. Seems like I haven't had that issue on other consoles for the most part.

Looks like it would be difficult to use and take a lot of time to get used to.