@fatpunkslim adding the DLC would make sense. Then again, they may just do the base game in the hope of additional DLC sales. Either way, we will likely find out soon.
@BacklogBrad yeah, as someone else said, its already been on plus previously so I imagine this is more for cdpr to stretch money from the game as it heads to the end of its cycle than gamepass getting a coupe.
Not my cup of tea at all. The endless loading and just Bethesda jank peaked for me on this one. I wanted to love it but the more I pushed, the more I hated it. Fair play to everyone it landed with though, part of me envies you for it.
Things like this create new problems. Thats a lot of searches and I imagine very few would look to places and articles like this to clarify. That could be potential lost sales from a large part of the casual market.
You start with 'is xbox closing' and then start seeing 'xbox releasing all games on PS' and then its another sale to Sony.
I really want them to turn this round but im struggling to see any world they do it.
The genie is out of the bottle and its gonna be a nightmare to get back in. Once they start changing direction (again), folks will just stop paying attention as it feels like its all they do these days.
Regarding GTA 6, its highly likely to sell a few xbox's but, more than likely it will sell a boat load of PS5's. Maybe even Pro's if it utilises PSSR 2.0 well to nudge performance a touch better.
Bottom line is, who knows. Everything Asha says at the minute will have been filtered through PR, so we need to wait and see what she does as these words will be designed to get folks on side.
Yet, as always with all these companies, its what they dont say that usually becomes the reality of it all.
@Gemini53 its a great little machine the S. We had one initially but the internal power brick went unfortunately, just outside the guarantee period (typical), so we decided just to get an X to replace it.
However, I loved the S. I travel a bit for work and it was so handy to throw into an overnight bag. Great little piece of kit.
@Gemini53 yeah I read through and new that decent discussion would be hard to find in there ha ha.
Sounds like you have earned a feet up there pal. Im just about to head round to my mother's with the kids while I sort her house insurance. Absolutely edge of the seat stuff there eh!
@Gemini53 no problem. Yeah, they have their share without doubt, although i think they have more visitors so unfortunately it tends to bring a bigger share of, well, what you discovered.
There are some really good folks in there though, once you spot them.
@Gemini53 oooooooh I think ssx tricky just pipped it as best for me. Superb series of games though. I think this and fight night are two series id love to see come back.
Sadly for me I dont see much of a future in it. I think they are far to down the rabbit hole with the direction they took to turn it round. By cancelling out any of things they have done, they will essentially have lied to anyone that bought into that and lose more trust.
Then, similar to all the rumours/whispers/reports about the next console, there are equal amounts of rumours/whispers/reports stating that the new folks have been brought in to sunset the console side of things. We cant say theres no truth in one set of these and then say theres truth in the others as really they are all speculation, but theres usually no smoke without fire.
And thats the problem, uncertainty. Nobody, probably MS included right now, is certain on the direction xbox will go. And while they take time to figure that out, the bulk of folks apart from the small quarter on sites like these are moving to other ecosystems. Theres even some of them turning away.
Its easier to pick the one that feels more certain and hey, you will get all xbox's games there anyway 🤷♂️
The problem is the same problem they had all gen, nobody is buying them. Nothing they have tried has changed that, even before all this everything's an xbox. Doing another change of direction is just going to annoy anybody outside of places like this as it just looks like confusing messages. Everyone else has already ingrained themselves in another eco system, and they wont drop that.
Personally, and im sad to say it, I just see them flapping around for a bit longer, throwing buzzwords out and calling it a day.
@Fiendish-Beaver yeah, im with you there. I simply dont want to stream my games as the technology isnt there to make it feel like a local version. I have a horrible feeling this will be their way though. The ROG ally x is advertised as 'play all your games' and that is technically true, only with streaming though.
The new boss is there to maximise and grow the service. They wont pull in new people by simply having a powerful machine, exclusive games, gamepass, play anywhere, etc... as this has all been tried and didnt work.
The bottom line is people built an existing digital library last gen and they will not walk away from it. The majority of sales are from folks who simply stick where the stuff they bought will be, as has been proven this gen.
So to maximise growth, as ive said all along, you sell your stuff where people are playing. Apps to access a dashboard, multiplatform games and i would bet my left leg on an xbox studio only version of gamepass popping up on PS and Switch within 12 months.
@Gemini53 I mean, as long as you can access your library, its an xbox. Thats the end goal with the 'full screen experience'. Its basically an app overlay on windows. Only a matter of time before it has an android version, ios version, etc...
The ROG ally is already doing it and sadly, i fear this is the end game. I mean an xbox/pc hybrid... sounds awfully like a pre built pc that just boots straight into an app doesn't it...
@Gemini53 it does not sadly. Its hard to feel any hope or excitement when you look at the CV of who's now in charge.
@Fiendish-Beaver like I said in another thread, the next xbox will basically be an app to the 'full screen experience'. Cheaper, easier to get 'growth' and is already in the wild. The bit in the statement that said focus on consoles, for me at least, will just end up being about making sure you can access your library. Anything new will just be the PC version.
@Sol4ris Phil did an interview (with destin whatshisname) about a year ago in which he was asked about retirement. He very clearly said he had no plans to retire any time soon. That may have just been a corporate line, but its odd he left before the 25th anniversary. Then the fact Sarah, who was allegedly there to take over, ups and quits the same day. Just feels a little to coincidental and off for me.
@Ken_Kaniff between the folks now in charge, the abysmal sales and ram issues, I wouldnt be surprised if that next console/hybrid never sees the light of day.
Well, whatever you think of the guy, its the end of an era. And I gotta say, im not excited for what's coming next.
Personally I dont think we'll see another xbox, be it a console or a hybrid. I reckon its gonna be announced they are focusing on publishing games instead within a month or two. I dont like it but between nadela and the head of AI, its done.
@IOI when you remember the uproar over the pro price, it really puts it in a different light when you can buy that and a whole other new console for the same price as the ally x.
Windows Central did a piece on a number of them being faulty as well. One of their staff had to return it and recieved a message they were experiencing delays due to a high volume of repairs. This could relate to all ASUS devices and not just the ROG specifically, but its not a good look when your kit costs nigh on a grand and possibly going up.
What's going on with project windless? Eurogamer are saying its PC and PS only at the minute, anything confirmed by krafton on platforms? Seems like a perfect multi platform title
Sounds like they are swaying people to develop as a partner with them as they can put their games everywhere, rather than just xbox. I imagine there will be a gamepass sign up in that deal.
They may do something good with it but their goodwill with most gamers at the minute is rock bottom, to the point where pretty much all comments here, mine included, are just folks expecting the worst.
@Fiendish-Beaver you will never get through to him mate. He will beat the drum right up until hes proven wrong and then insist everybody moves on and he pitches a new pile of waffle to stand on and tell us hes right. I would just save yourself the frustration.
To me it just seems obvious that if you launch your game into a sub, folks will buy one month for a quid, finish it and cancel. Of course its gonna impact sales.
I clean my series x every few months as it kicks into overdrive otherwise. We dont smoke but theres 5 of us in the house along with a cat and a dog, plus we live next to woodland. There are many factors that can affect the junk in the air and dust is just something we always have to keep on top of. Runs like a treat once cleaned though.
There are more not on it than are. But who cares. I own multiples of all the consoles and enjoy games on them all. I dont need an xbox or a pc to play PS games, just as much as i dont need a PS to play xbox games. Next gen, I wont even need an xbox. I recommend you broaden your horizons as well.
No xbox doesnt have twice the monthly users. You are lumping PC users in. They are not on xbox. Again, im not standing up for playstation, but i dislike misinformation.
Im just tired of your absolute inability to look at things from a balanced view. Like when you were wrong about day one games. Your immediate reaction is let's put a line under it and move on. After months and months of you say the facts show this, the facts show that, only for it all to be fanboy nonsense. Yet you say i dont like a discussion.
I will say it again. I want xbox to thrive. I want them to do well. I just see what they are doing as a way to bail out and become a publisher. Which I do not want.
Lets just end it there to save you the effort of moving the goal posts or using some AI driven 'fact' to make yourself look sillier.
@fatpunkslim but it wont let you play everything. Want to play gran tourismo? Sorry. And thats just one in a long list of ps games not even on PC.
They already stripped windows in the rog and its widely considered to still be a pain in the backside that stops it feeling like a console.
PC gamers already have rigs that will do all of this and yet PS is selling millions more than xbox despite that. Just because it has an xbox logo wont make them drop what they already have.
And then theres price. This is going to be a big thing and from the signs we already have, its gonna be a costly boy.
Look, it will have a market for people like yourself who are ingrained in the ecosystem. It may even tempt a few outliers, but it wont even sell series numbers.
Lets just agree to wait and see what comes in the future and we will see what the outcome is as all this, on both sides, is speculation until we know.
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Re: Xbox Is Teasing Something 'Very Cool' For Game Pass This Month, Possibly Cyberpunk 2077
@fatpunkslim adding the DLC would make sense. Then again, they may just do the base game in the hope of additional DLC sales. Either way, we will likely find out soon.
Re: Xbox Is Teasing Something 'Very Cool' For Game Pass This Month, Possibly Cyberpunk 2077
@BacklogBrad yeah, as someone else said, its already been on plus previously so I imagine this is more for cdpr to stretch money from the game as it heads to the end of its cycle than gamepass getting a coupe.
Re: Opinion: Xbox Should Consider Cancelling Halo: Campaign Evolved For PS5
@Gemini53 my lack of proof reading in that comment will haunt me ha ha. Damn these middle aged thumbs and phone keyboards!
Re: Starfield Is Reportedly Launching For PS5 On April 7th, With Pre-Orders Starting This Month
Not my cup of tea at all. The endless loading and just Bethesda jank peaked for me on this one. I wanted to love it but the more I pushed, the more I hated it. Fair play to everyone it landed with though, part of me envies you for it.
Re: 'Is Xbox Ending?' - The Official Answer Is No, But A Recent Interview Clearly Caused Panic
@FraserG I tried to tell him tricky was the best one and you just mistyped the entire article, but he was having none of it.
Re: 'Is Xbox Ending?' - The Official Answer Is No, But A Recent Interview Clearly Caused Panic
Things like this create new problems. Thats a lot of searches and I imagine very few would look to places and articles like this to clarify. That could be potential lost sales from a large part of the casual market.
You start with 'is xbox closing' and then start seeing 'xbox releasing all games on PS' and then its another sale to Sony.
I really want them to turn this round but im struggling to see any world they do it.
Re: Opinion: Xbox Should Consider Cancelling Halo: Campaign Evolved For PS5
The genie is out of the bottle and its gonna be a nightmare to get back in. Once they start changing direction (again), folks will just stop paying attention as it feels like its all they do these days.
Regarding GTA 6, its highly likely to sell a few xbox's but, more than likely it will sell a boat load of PS5's. Maybe even Pro's if it utilises PSSR 2.0 well to nudge performance a touch better.
Bottom line is, who knows. Everything Asha says at the minute will have been filtered through PR, so we need to wait and see what she does as these words will be designed to get folks on side.
Yet, as always with all these companies, its what they dont say that usually becomes the reality of it all.
Re: SSX 3 Is Incredible On Xbox, Here Are Five Reasons You Should Try It In 2026
@Gemini53 its a great little machine the S. We had one initially but the internal power brick went unfortunately, just outside the guarantee period (typical), so we decided just to get an X to replace it.
However, I loved the S. I travel a bit for work and it was so handy to throw into an overnight bag. Great little piece of kit.
Re: SSX 3 Is Incredible On Xbox, Here Are Five Reasons You Should Try It In 2026
@Gemini53 yeah I read through and new that decent discussion would be hard to find in there ha ha.
Sounds like you have earned a feet up there pal. Im just about to head round to my mother's with the kids while I sort her house insurance. Absolutely edge of the seat stuff there eh!
Re: SSX 3 Is Incredible On Xbox, Here Are Five Reasons You Should Try It In 2026
@Gemini53 no problem. Yeah, they have their share without doubt, although i think they have more visitors so unfortunately it tends to bring a bigger share of, well, what you discovered.
There are some really good folks in there though, once you spot them.
Re: SSX 3 Is Incredible On Xbox, Here Are Five Reasons You Should Try It In 2026
@Gemini53 oooooooh I think ssx tricky just pipped it as best for me. Superb series of games though. I think this and fight night are two series id love to see come back.
Re: Poll: How Optimistic Are You Feeling About The Future Of Xbox?
Sadly for me I dont see much of a future in it. I think they are far to down the rabbit hole with the direction they took to turn it round. By cancelling out any of things they have done, they will essentially have lied to anyone that bought into that and lose more trust.
Then, similar to all the rumours/whispers/reports about the next console, there are equal amounts of rumours/whispers/reports stating that the new folks have been brought in to sunset the console side of things. We cant say theres no truth in one set of these and then say theres truth in the others as really they are all speculation, but theres usually no smoke without fire.
And thats the problem, uncertainty. Nobody, probably MS included right now, is certain on the direction xbox will go. And while they take time to figure that out, the bulk of folks apart from the small quarter on sites like these are moving to other ecosystems. Theres even some of them turning away.
Its easier to pick the one that feels more certain and hey, you will get all xbox's games there anyway 🤷♂️
Re: Xbox Won't Back Away From First-Party And Become 'Just A Publisher', Insists EVP Matt Booty
@Gemini53 My moneys is still on xbox basically becoming an app at this point. Which would fit in with the Ally being new hardware.
Re: Xbox Won't Back Away From First-Party And Become 'Just A Publisher', Insists EVP Matt Booty
@Cakefish I was going to say that. He picked the thing that is absolutely not an xbox to use as an example of new hardware.
Re: Talking Point: You're The New Head Of Xbox, What Do You Do Now?
Shut it down.
Just a joke folks, just a joke.
Re: Xbox Boss Explains Her Gamertag Activity, Says 'Faking Would Be A Terrible Idea'
@fatpunkslim a very rare time we completley agree on something 😂
Re: Xbox's 'Pivot Away From Console' Had Been Failing And Questioned At Microsoft, Claims Report
The problem is the same problem they had all gen, nobody is buying them. Nothing they have tried has changed that, even before all this everything's an xbox. Doing another change of direction is just going to annoy anybody outside of places like this as it just looks like confusing messages. Everyone else has already ingrained themselves in another eco system, and they wont drop that.
Personally, and im sad to say it, I just see them flapping around for a bit longer, throwing buzzwords out and calling it a day.
Re: Xbox President Sarah Bond Is Also Leaving The Company, Microsoft Confirms
@Fiendish-Beaver yeah, im with you there. I simply dont want to stream my games as the technology isnt there to make it feel like a local version. I have a horrible feeling this will be their way though. The ROG ally x is advertised as 'play all your games' and that is technically true, only with streaming though.
The new boss is there to maximise and grow the service. They wont pull in new people by simply having a powerful machine, exclusive games, gamepass, play anywhere, etc... as this has all been tried and didnt work.
The bottom line is people built an existing digital library last gen and they will not walk away from it. The majority of sales are from folks who simply stick where the stuff they bought will be, as has been proven this gen.
So to maximise growth, as ive said all along, you sell your stuff where people are playing. Apps to access a dashboard, multiplatform games and i would bet my left leg on an xbox studio only version of gamepass popping up on PS and Switch within 12 months.
Re: Xbox's Sarah Bond Issues Statement On Her Departure From Microsoft
Xbox deserves this.
Ruthless.
Re: Xbox President Sarah Bond Is Also Leaving The Company, Microsoft Confirms
@Gemini53 I mean, as long as you can access your library, its an xbox. Thats the end goal with the 'full screen experience'. Its basically an app overlay on windows. Only a matter of time before it has an android version, ios version, etc...
The ROG ally is already doing it and sadly, i fear this is the end game. I mean an xbox/pc hybrid... sounds awfully like a pre built pc that just boots straight into an app doesn't it...
Again. Im desperately hoping im wrong.
Re: Xbox President Sarah Bond Is Also Leaving The Company, Microsoft Confirms
@Gemini53 it does not sadly. Its hard to feel any hope or excitement when you look at the CV of who's now in charge.
@Fiendish-Beaver like I said in another thread, the next xbox will basically be an app to the 'full screen experience'. Cheaper, easier to get 'growth' and is already in the wild. The bit in the statement that said focus on consoles, for me at least, will just end up being about making sure you can access your library. Anything new will just be the PC version.
Really hope im wrong.
Re: New Xbox Head Suggests Bringing Back The Blades Dashboard In First Social Media Posts
Like watching the new kid shout words out to show they fit in.
Re: Microsoft CEO Shares His Thoughts On The Major Leadership Changes At Xbox
@Sol4ris Phil did an interview (with destin whatshisname) about a year ago in which he was asked about retirement. He very clearly said he had no plans to retire any time soon. That may have just been a corporate line, but its odd he left before the 25th anniversary. Then the fact Sarah, who was allegedly there to take over, ups and quits the same day. Just feels a little to coincidental and off for me.
Re: Who Is Asha Sharma? A Look Back At The Career Of The New Xbox Boss
With her masses of experience in the gaming sector, I dont see how this could possibly go wrong...
Re: 'We Have Good Reasons To Believe In What's Ahead', Insists New Xbox Chief Content Officer
The next announcement will be to say heres your new xbox... available on all app stores!
Re: Xbox President Sarah Bond Is Also Leaving The Company, Microsoft Confirms
@Ken_Kaniff between the folks now in charge, the abysmal sales and ram issues, I wouldnt be surprised if that next console/hybrid never sees the light of day.
Re: Phil Spencer Announces That He's Retiring From Xbox
Well, whatever you think of the guy, its the end of an era. And I gotta say, im not excited for what's coming next.
Personally I dont think we'll see another xbox, be it a console or a hybrid. I reckon its gonna be announced they are focusing on publishing games instead within a month or two. I dont like it but between nadela and the head of AI, its done.
Re: Sony's Bluepoint Games Might Be Gone, But We'll Never Forget Their 'Impossible Port' For Xbox 360
What an absolute shambles of a decision.
Re: Microsoft Rewards Quietly Increases Its Prices For Xbox Gift Cards
@Cakefish Just buy that game. Cheaper in the long run and its still there if you drop your sub
Re: ROG Xbox Ally X Gets Its First Price Increase, Limited To One Region For Now
@IOI when you remember the uproar over the pro price, it really puts it in a different light when you can buy that and a whole other new console for the same price as the ally x.
Absolutely mental place we are in at the minute.
Re: ROG Xbox Ally X Gets Its First Price Increase, Limited To One Region For Now
Windows Central did a piece on a number of them being faulty as well. One of their staff had to return it and recieved a message they were experiencing delays due to a high volume of repairs. This could relate to all ASUS devices and not just the ROG specifically, but its not a good look when your kit costs nigh on a grand and possibly going up.
Re: New Report On PS6 Delay Throws Next-Gen Timing Into Doubt
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Re: Roundup: All The Xbox Reveals From February 2026's State Of Play
@FraserG excellent news, appreciated.
Re: Roundup: All The Xbox Reveals From February 2026's State Of Play
What's going on with project windless? Eurogamer are saying its PC and PS only at the minute, anything confirmed by krafton on platforms? Seems like a perfect multi platform title
Re: 'The Future Of Xbox Starts Now' - Microsoft Invites Devs To 'Build For What's Next' At GDC 2026
Sounds like they are swaying people to develop as a partner with them as they can put their games everywhere, rather than just xbox. I imagine there will be a gamepass sign up in that deal.
Re: Report: Next Year Is 'Best Case Scenario' For New Xbox Console, Microsoft Still Unsure On Price
@FraserG so you are saying that a site dedicated to xbox info is going to keep reporting on xbox info??
You truly are monsters...
Re: Report: Microsoft Is In The Early Stages Of 'Expanding' Xbox Game Pass
They may do something good with it but their goodwill with most gamers at the minute is rock bottom, to the point where pretty much all comments here, mine included, are just folks expecting the worst.
Re: Report: Microsoft Is In The Early Stages Of 'Expanding' Xbox Game Pass
All I see is the price going up.
Re: AMD Mentions Next-Gen Xbox Console, Says It's 'Progressing Well' To Release In 2027
@themightyant its the nonsense that also tips me my man.
Re: Obsidian Says Two Of Its 2025 Titles Didn't Meet Sales Targets, Vows To Learn For The Future
@Fiendish-Beaver you will never get through to him mate. He will beat the drum right up until hes proven wrong and then insist everybody moves on and he pitches a new pile of waffle to stand on and tell us hes right. I would just save yourself the frustration.
Re: Obsidian Says Two Of Its 2025 Titles Didn't Meet Sales Targets, Vows To Learn For The Future
@IOI I like the fact they came out and said its not 30%, only for a studio they own to say yeah, its 30%.
Its almost like they lied about it. Who would have thought eh!
Re: Obsidian Says Two Of Its 2025 Titles Didn't Meet Sales Targets, Vows To Learn For The Future
@Markatron84 he cant feel emotion. Hes a machine.
Re: Obsidian Says Two Of Its 2025 Titles Didn't Meet Sales Targets, Vows To Learn For The Future
To me it just seems obvious that if you launch your game into a sub, folks will buy one month for a quid, finish it and cancel. Of course its gonna impact sales.
Re: Xbox Series S Owner Shows What Smoking, Dust And Dirt Can Do To Your Console
I clean my series x every few months as it kicks into overdrive otherwise. We dont smoke but theres 5 of us in the house along with a cat and a dog, plus we live next to woodland. There are many factors that can affect the junk in the air and dust is just something we always have to keep on top of. Runs like a treat once cleaned though.
Re: Narrative Adventure 'Indika' Is Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (February 2)
@Markatron84 possibly 5. Its hard to tell. I only fell in love with one. 10/10 on the dead granometer.
Re: Narrative Adventure 'Indika' Is Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (February 2)
Id recommend everyone gives this a go but just be aware it wont be for everyone.
Re: Xbox Game Pass: All Games Coming Soon In February 2026
@somnambulance yeah indika is a solid game. I can see how it would be a bit heavy for some folks though.
Re: Capcom Is Delivering Another Early-Year Xbox Treat This Month With The Latest Resident Evil
@OldGamer999 yeah im looking forward to this one to
Re: Xbox Series X|S Ranked 5th In List Of Platforms Developers Are Most Interested In
@fatpunkslim sigh its not my playstation.
There are more not on it than are. But who cares. I own multiples of all the consoles and enjoy games on them all. I dont need an xbox or a pc to play PS games, just as much as i dont need a PS to play xbox games. Next gen, I wont even need an xbox. I recommend you broaden your horizons as well.
No xbox doesnt have twice the monthly users. You are lumping PC users in. They are not on xbox. Again, im not standing up for playstation, but i dislike misinformation.
Im just tired of your absolute inability to look at things from a balanced view. Like when you were wrong about day one games. Your immediate reaction is let's put a line under it and move on. After months and months of you say the facts show this, the facts show that, only for it all to be fanboy nonsense. Yet you say i dont like a discussion.
I will say it again. I want xbox to thrive. I want them to do well. I just see what they are doing as a way to bail out and become a publisher. Which I do not want.
Lets just end it there to save you the effort of moving the goal posts or using some AI driven 'fact' to make yourself look sillier.
Enjoy your day mate and play some games.
Peace out.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Ranked 5th In List Of Platforms Developers Are Most Interested In
@fatpunkslim but it wont let you play everything. Want to play gran tourismo? Sorry. And thats just one in a long list of ps games not even on PC.
They already stripped windows in the rog and its widely considered to still be a pain in the backside that stops it feeling like a console.
PC gamers already have rigs that will do all of this and yet PS is selling millions more than xbox despite that. Just because it has an xbox logo wont make them drop what they already have.
And then theres price. This is going to be a big thing and from the signs we already have, its gonna be a costly boy.
Look, it will have a market for people like yourself who are ingrained in the ecosystem. It may even tempt a few outliers, but it wont even sell series numbers.
Lets just agree to wait and see what comes in the future and we will see what the outcome is as all this, on both sides, is speculation until we know.