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@Gemini53 I mean, as long as you can access your library, its an xbox. Thats the end goal with the 'full screen experience'. Its basically an app overlay on windows. Only a matter of time before it has an android version, ios version, etc...

The ROG ally is already doing it and sadly, i fear this is the end game. I mean an xbox/pc hybrid... sounds awfully like a pre built pc that just boots straight into an app doesn't it...

Again. Im desperately hoping im wrong.

@Gemini53 it does not sadly. Its hard to feel any hope or excitement when you look at the CV of who's now in charge.

@Fiendish-Beaver like I said in another thread, the next xbox will basically be an app to the 'full screen experience'. Cheaper, easier to get 'growth' and is already in the wild. The bit in the statement that said focus on consoles, for me at least, will just end up being about making sure you can access your library. Anything new will just be the PC version.

Really hope im wrong.

Like watching the new kid shout words out to show they fit in.

@Sol4ris Phil did an interview (with destin whatshisname) about a year ago in which he was asked about retirement. He very clearly said he had no plans to retire any time soon. That may have just been a corporate line, but its odd he left before the 25th anniversary. Then the fact Sarah, who was allegedly there to take over, ups and quits the same day. Just feels a little to coincidental and off for me.

With her masses of experience in the gaming sector, I dont see how this could possibly go wrong...

The next announcement will be to say heres your new xbox... available on all app stores!

@Ken_Kaniff between the folks now in charge, the abysmal sales and ram issues, I wouldnt be surprised if that next console/hybrid never sees the light of day.

Well, whatever you think of the guy, its the end of an era. And I gotta say, im not excited for what's coming next.

Personally I dont think we'll see another xbox, be it a console or a hybrid. I reckon its gonna be announced they are focusing on publishing games instead within a month or two. I dont like it but between nadela and the head of AI, its done.

What an absolute shambles of a decision.

@Cakefish Just buy that game. Cheaper in the long run and its still there if you drop your sub

@IOI when you remember the uproar over the pro price, it really puts it in a different light when you can buy that and a whole other new console for the same price as the ally x.

Absolutely mental place we are in at the minute.

Windows Central did a piece on a number of them being faulty as well. One of their staff had to return it and recieved a message they were experiencing delays due to a high volume of repairs. This could relate to all ASUS devices and not just the ROG specifically, but its not a good look when your kit costs nigh on a grand and possibly going up.

@FraserG excellent news, appreciated.

What's going on with project windless? Eurogamer are saying its PC and PS only at the minute, anything confirmed by krafton on platforms? Seems like a perfect multi platform title

Sounds like they are swaying people to develop as a partner with them as they can put their games everywhere, rather than just xbox. I imagine there will be a gamepass sign up in that deal.

@FraserG so you are saying that a site dedicated to xbox info is going to keep reporting on xbox info??

You truly are monsters...

They may do something good with it but their goodwill with most gamers at the minute is rock bottom, to the point where pretty much all comments here, mine included, are just folks expecting the worst.

All I see is the price going up.

@themightyant its the nonsense that also tips me my man.

@Fiendish-Beaver you will never get through to him mate. He will beat the drum right up until hes proven wrong and then insist everybody moves on and he pitches a new pile of waffle to stand on and tell us hes right. I would just save yourself the frustration.

@IOI I like the fact they came out and said its not 30%, only for a studio they own to say yeah, its 30%.

Its almost like they lied about it. Who would have thought eh!

@Markatron84 he cant feel emotion. Hes a machine.

To me it just seems obvious that if you launch your game into a sub, folks will buy one month for a quid, finish it and cancel. Of course its gonna impact sales.

I clean my series x every few months as it kicks into overdrive otherwise. We dont smoke but theres 5 of us in the house along with a cat and a dog, plus we live next to woodland. There are many factors that can affect the junk in the air and dust is just something we always have to keep on top of. Runs like a treat once cleaned though.

@Markatron84 possibly 5. Its hard to tell. I only fell in love with one. 10/10 on the dead granometer.

Id recommend everyone gives this a go but just be aware it wont be for everyone.

@somnambulance yeah indika is a solid game. I can see how it would be a bit heavy for some folks though.

@OldGamer999 yeah im looking forward to this one to

@fatpunkslim sigh its not my playstation.

There are more not on it than are. But who cares. I own multiples of all the consoles and enjoy games on them all. I dont need an xbox or a pc to play PS games, just as much as i dont need a PS to play xbox games. Next gen, I wont even need an xbox. I recommend you broaden your horizons as well.

No xbox doesnt have twice the monthly users. You are lumping PC users in. They are not on xbox. Again, im not standing up for playstation, but i dislike misinformation.

Im just tired of your absolute inability to look at things from a balanced view. Like when you were wrong about day one games. Your immediate reaction is let's put a line under it and move on. After months and months of you say the facts show this, the facts show that, only for it all to be fanboy nonsense. Yet you say i dont like a discussion.

I will say it again. I want xbox to thrive. I want them to do well. I just see what they are doing as a way to bail out and become a publisher. Which I do not want.

Lets just end it there to save you the effort of moving the goal posts or using some AI driven 'fact' to make yourself look sillier.

Enjoy your day mate and play some games.

Peace out.

@fatpunkslim but it wont let you play everything. Want to play gran tourismo? Sorry. And thats just one in a long list of ps games not even on PC.

They already stripped windows in the rog and its widely considered to still be a pain in the backside that stops it feeling like a console.

PC gamers already have rigs that will do all of this and yet PS is selling millions more than xbox despite that. Just because it has an xbox logo wont make them drop what they already have.

And then theres price. This is going to be a big thing and from the signs we already have, its gonna be a costly boy.

Look, it will have a market for people like yourself who are ingrained in the ecosystem. It may even tempt a few outliers, but it wont even sell series numbers.

Lets just agree to wait and see what comes in the future and we will see what the outcome is as all this, on both sides, is speculation until we know.

@Markatron84 oh you know it is...you know it is

@Markatron84 I got just the game to play...

@NeoRatt ahh, I misread that. I see now those folks who made it just gave a number. Either way, i dont get why youre upset about it. Its sold well on all for the time it was out on them

@NeoRatt i genuinely think they are just showing it sold well on thm all.

@FraserG of course. Enjoy your weekend chief.

@NeoRatt its actual data released by folks who made it showing how it tracked. They arent trying to win something.

@Markatron84 This would be some sixth sense levels of a reveal 😂. Drop my wedding ring in slow mo as @FraserG slowly appears.

@FatGuyInLilCoat I need to learn this approach. Either that or they need to ban him for trolling. The place would be better for it 😂

@GuyinPA75 @Fiendish-Beaver bit younger than the beaver here (sorry man 😂) but old enough to feel the pain you speak of.

Once windows gets involved, no matter how stripped down or what you overlay it with, it will continue to rear its head repeatedly. Theres a reason the giant bomb folks rated the xbox full screen experience in the top 3 dissapointments of 2025 and its simply because it was not an xbox. Superb kit, but not an xbox.

@eduscxbox sorry man, just spotted your second comment. This we agree on. Microsoft can make a ton off games. Hence why they are making a PC and inevitably just going towards being a publisher with its own storefront.

@eduscxbox it wont be an xbox then will it. It will be a PC with an xbox sticker and an app, as i said earlier. If they arent making xbox games, I can buy an alienware PC and just get the same thing.

@GuyinPA75 100% with you. Which is why I want xbox to release an actual xbox.

@fatpunkslim im not showing cynicism, im quoting facts. Its no coincidence that every other website (no offence folks here, I know you have to do your best with what you have) state that this is all negative for xbox.

I mean, maybe im the fool for expecting you to actually be any different. But then again, you were 100% on the money that games wouldn't release on PS day and date. You even had all the facts to back it up. So youre right, I take everything you just said as the absolute truth of the matter.

Edit 'very good news for the next xbox, which is a PC'. So its not an xbox then.. 🤦‍♂️

@fatpunkslim its a 4% increase over 2024 results and that seemed to bring plenty of games to the system. You seem to avoid the 14% drop in interest to develop for xbox compared to 2024.

To try and say the platform that had increased interest is in a bad place compared to the plummet in the one you clearly favour is quite the take.

You are also ignoring that devs could pick multiple choices in the survey. So half of that 80% could have picked PS5 as well. Meaning the difference would be the 40% solely focused on PC, as it could be the 60% that said the same towards not developing on xbox.

Either way, its multiple somersaults through many hoops to try and make this a positive. This is despite your constant talk of facts and people not liking them.

@Naughtyottsel92 the whole it'll have PS on xbox thing just makes me laugh as by accessing the selection available on PC means that they will have to cut MS out of any profit. To play them they woud likely be bought through steam, epic, etc. Literally the opposite of xbox games on PS. Sony dont spend a penny on those games and take a cut. They already sunk the cost into the PC versions and will get a cut of every sale the new 'xbox' will play. MS get nothing, which removes the point of having an xbox entirely as you can do all the same stuff through a PC.

@eduscxbox true but if the box plays pc versions of the latest games, why waste money on developing an xbox version.

Then folks can buy that in a steam sale, cutting xbox out of any sales.

I suppose consoles are ecosystems more than a box. You sell a box that can let you ignore the eco system and pick up games cheaper, then you made no profit over the initial sale. Therein, what's the point. If that makes sense.

I can buy multiple brand pre built PC's. They get not another penny over that initial sale. This is essentially (from what we know) the same thing xbox will be. The bonus being you can access (hopefully) all your library native. But even thats not certain as the bulk of it is streamed at present.

@Sakai enjoyed the conversation my friend. Hope you have a good day!

@eduscxbox because an xbox doesn't give the option to delete the os, storefront and install another one. Its a bespoke, closed eco system to develop for without multiple hardware options that can be upgraded by simply buying a new graphics card.

This is why PC versions need console ports and vice versa.

The same reason you cant just boot up your xbox games on a pc if they dont have a pc version.

A PC is not this.

@Sakai no worries. As I said in a comment above, the problem with a hybrid is even if people buy the box, they arent necessarily going to enter the xbox eco system. Heck, they could buy it, delete all the xbox stuff and just use it as a PC for steam. Its probably why price is going to be a premium.

The 60% who said they wont develop for xbox and stick to PC will just do the same and sell it on steam. Xbox wont see another penny from those apart from the initial sale of the box (whatever it turns out to be).

Essentially they will sell a PC with an app overlay like the ally x. Once you base it on windows though, you can just remove the lot, Including windows. Have a little search for videos of the rog were people removed all the xbox/windows stuff. Performance far outstrips what you get out of the box.

Strange times though and I hope they do something to compete with Sony and Nintendo. Competition only benefits us at the end of they day