TheGameThrifter

An Xbox branded OEM isn't going to sell anything. It's just another PC handheld.
Even if Microsoft had an Xbox handheld that played our actual library of games (Which is what it needs), they are already confusing people by branding a PC handheld an "Xbox". Unless I can play my digital library of Xbox games on it, it's not an Xbox.

This stuff always feels like it's for a super minority of people. I just want to play my Xbox on a big TV.

@Kaloudz Xbox as a console has never been weaker.

@Kaloudz He's only talking about Cloud and subscriptions and A.I. Those things don't bode well for the Xbox consoles.

@Kaloudz How's it a healthy market that Xbox exclusives are on PlayStation and Nintendo platforms while those games aren't on Xbox platforms? It's a one way street that makes Xbox hardware less desirable and therefore less competition.
Sony can literally do whatever they want because it sounds like Phil Spencer has given up completely on believing in his own console.
You should ALWAYS try to sell your product to as many people as possible, yet this guy has given up repeatedly. What kind of message is that to Xbox employees and fans?

Honest and transparent with everyone BUT Xbox owners lol

@PsBoxSwitchOwner "The team does mention that more platforms are being planned for later down the line"

@themightyant The massive returns was just Call Of Duty...lol
Which is what always happens with COD. It sells very well on PlayStation.

Most people play the required amount for the awards. All this guy talks about is PC and Cloud and people wonder why everyone says Xbox consoles are in danger....

Indiana Jones is my GOTY 2024. It's a shame only 4 million people tried it, and the completion percentage is so low. I think Game Pass is a great value, but it really hampers stuff like this.
Indy is the best game Xbox has put out in a long time and it went largely ignored. There's over 30 million Game Pass subscribers and 4 million people played it?

@gollumb82 I think people care because it's a one way street.
Buy a PS5 and get more 3rd party games, PlayStation games and Xbox games.

Buy an Xbox and get less 3rd party games and only Xbox games.

Also, how long will Microsoft keep up hardware at this rate? Getting outsold 8x1 now.

@TheEstablishment Xbox makes BILLIONS less than PlayStation despite owning Activision and Zenimax...
BECAUSE when you have a lot of console sales you can sell more software, subscriptions and microtransactions.

Weird how that works!

@TheEstablishment
PS5 sales are up over PS4.
Switch is the best selling console of all time.

The only console falling behind is Xbox, and it's because it lacks exclusive games.
How long do you think Microsoft will stay in hardware at this rate?

Are you a fan of the Xbox or Microsoft's financials? For me, if it's not the Xbox console, there's no point.

Selling Xbox consoles isn't a path for Microsoft....lol

So in 2025 he's promising more hardware.

In 2024 he promised "just 4 games going to PlayStation".

In 2021 he promised Zenimax was bought to provide exclusive games where Game Pass exists.

So, which do we believe?

@Ricky-Spanish They're counting King games like Candy Crush, which is almost 300 million MAU in and of itself.

The Xbox consoles are factually selling pretty bad currently.

Almost 300 million of this is through King games like Candy Crush though....

If they put Xbox games on Switch 2, why would anyone buy Microsoft's alleged handheld? You could get Switch and Xbox exclusives on the Switch 2, or just get Xbox stuff on their handheld....

Back when they were actually TRYING! They made everyone feel like they were a part of something bigger and fun. The interactions with fans on social media, the executives would join in on little podcasts and hype up Xbox...I miss those times.

Microsoft pulling out from the looks of things. My guess is that they stopped production of Xbox consoles for a while to "catch up" to the demand or lack thereof.

@BacklogBrad Nobody is buying Xbox's. They continue to drop almost 30% every quarter. People are not coming to their senses, they're leaving the platform completely.

If you can get a PS5 or PS6 and it plays PlayStation exclusives, Xbox exclusives and gets the 3rd party games Xbox doesn't get, why would people buy an Xbox that only plays Xbox games and likely plays them worse than the PS5 Pro versions?

Xbox really hates Xbox...lol

There's more people using an Xbox One than an Xbox Series X. I mean, let that sink in.
Xbox One sold around 58 million units, Xbox Series X/S split about 28 million units so far, so there's 14-15 million Xbox Series X consoles in the wild.

There's a reason MS says they have more console players than ever, it's because MILLIONS are still on Xbox One playing Fortnite, COD, Madden, Apex, Minecraft, Roblox ECT

I only play my Series X. I couldn't care less about mobile gaming or gaming on a PC.
I suspect people who grew up gaming on a console will continue to do so.
As an adult with a wife, kids and full time job, there's no room or time to do other types of gaming, and when I have time to game I want it to be relaxing on my 72 inch OLED with my Series X playing these games the way they were intended, not some shrunk down 6 inch phone screen or whatever. And certainly not some laggy streaming service.

Microsoft spent years telling people not to buy an Xbox. So they aren't buying them.

Now they advertise smart watches as an Xbox.....and people still aren't buying an Xbox.

This is a SCARY situation, very much reminds me of Microsoft and the Windows Phone.

Clearing talking about stuff like Silent Hill 2 Remake, Wu Kong, Final Fantasy.

@ALK How would they make any money that way?

Microsoft subsidizes the console hardware and takes a loss because they make up for it by selling software, subscriptions and microtransactions.

They wouldn't earn anything from a Steam 3rd party game sale or microtransaction on the Steam Store. Furthermore, Microsoft charges to play games online, so people would circumvent paying to play by simply playing Steam versions.

There's honestly no way Microsoft earns money that way.

Sorry Satya, you don't get to define what an Xbox fan or gamer is. You can continue to try and twist and destroy the brand with asinine decisions, but I'll always remember the better years and how amazing it was to actually be an Xbox gamer and by Xbox gamer I mean the actual Xbox consoles.

Imagine the Xbox's Microsoft could sell if they kept their exclusives exclusive in 2025?
Avowed
South Of Midnight
Doom
Fable
Outer Worlds 2

People would finally start to take note of Xbox and they'd turn that corner. Instead, PlayStation will get 3 of the 6 published games on day 1. Likely take their 30% cut and buy more PS5 exclusives to keep off Xbox altogether.

Make it make sense!

@TheEstablishment They aren't even close to revenue that Sony makes. What a ridiculous statement.

The problem is that they HAVE A BOX and therefore should either decide to support it fully or get out completely and be a publisher.

Why cheer on Microsoft revenue? I don't know about you, but I'm a fan of the actual Xbox and always have been. I'm also a fan of competition, which is when we get better hardware, software and prices.
Sony literally doing NOTHING and getting away with it because Microsoft isn't a threat.

Also equally as funny that Sony is trying to put Xbox out of business and every first party game they put on PS5, Sony turns around and buys exclusive games to keep off Xbox. Black Myth, Final Fantasy 7 Remake, Final Fantasy 16, Silent Hill 2 Remake, KOTOR Remake, Stellar Blade ECT

So, basically Xbox fans get nothing exclusive and Sony buys even more games to keep off Xbox. Real losing proposition to own an Xbox.

Sony is literally trying to put Xbox out of business and Microsoft is helping them do it faster by putting first party games on PlayStation.

It'd be like getting murdered and handing your attacker a gun....

Xbox has no install base to make it worthwhile, and Sony knows it would kill their image and brand.

So, he closed 4 studios and got the name wrong of 1 of the studios he closed. Published more Xbox first party games on PlayStation and Nintendo than Xbox. Did a "one more thing" announcement from Gamescom which was Indiana Jones coming to PS5, delayed Avowed, had the Obsidian head harass and discriminate against people, and yet he's winning awards?

Console gamers aren't interested in Steam Machines or anything like that. Simple plug and play all the way.

Here's the bottom line. We know there's at least 20 million Xbox Series X/S consoles sold, and half are Series X with a disc drive. Why disregard the people who bought a console with a drive?

We can sit there and say "it's the future" all day long, but the bottom line is people who bought a disc drive based Xbox deserve to be catered to.

Pronouns in the game? CHECK!
Studio head confirms game is ultra WOKE? CHECK!

I mean seriously, can we just get back to making games fun and stop the virtue signaling? I refuse to support the deluded game developers of the world who are catering to the less than 1% of people and hating on anyone who doesn't fall in line.

LMAO!
Holidays are here, so let's advertise why you shouldn't buy an actual Xbox...yikes

@BolkaRover So, a rental service is a reason to buy a $600 console in the future? What massive hits are Microsoft releasing every year to make spending $250 a year on Game Pass worthwhile at this time? There's not a single Xbox first party game this year I would have bought....

@Fiendish-Beaver Why would they make it a timed exclusive? It's a multiplayer focused game that they would see benefit from day one launching on PS5 or PS6, same with Halo.

There's going to be zero reason to buy an Xbox next generation.

Who would buy an Xbox if you can play Xbox and PlayStation games on PlayStation? He's not too bright.....

@Titntin They haven't done any good scripts...Did you see the stuff they wrote in Suicide Squad and Forespoken? Sheesh....Not to mention they bullied Compulsion Games to switch the character from white to black or they would tell everyone they were racist.

Wushu Studios was doing the updates and content for State Of Decay 2.@themightyant

It didn't live up to the hype at all.
First of all, it was the game they chose to show off Xbox Series X way back in 2019.
The first Hellblade was made by 15-20 people and took 7-8 hours to complete, had multiple people attack at once and was also quite linear. It got a 60fps upgrade on Xbox One X and Series X.
Hellblade 2 is about a 5-6 hour game, plays incredibly slow and was made by 80 people. I think many of us expected a better game due to more money, time and developers.
This was never going to be a game for the masses, I just hope Ninja Theory goes and makes something more for the majority next time.

@BAMozzy Game Pass isn't free though. It's over $200 a year and will continue to rise. As an Xbox owner, I think they definitely need to offer something to differentiate their console over PlayStation, and a rental service isn't going to do the trick.

Next generation if someone can pick up a PS6 and it'll play all Xbox and PS games, why buy an Xbox that has nothing special on it? And 3rd parties are starting to skip Xbox and take it less seriously due to low install base as it is.

Xbox lacks identity, personally draw the line at Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable, Perfect Dark, State Of Decay ECT
If it's Activision I don't care where it goes, but they did promise Zenimax was about getting exclusives for where Game Pass exists.

Great show that perhaps could have really pushed some Xbox console sales. Immediately followed by a bumbling Phil Spencer saying they're putting more exclusives on PlayStation 5.

I swear it's difficult to like Xbox anymore....