@Cikajovazmaj there's a reason i don't pocket watch what other people are doing. If someone wants to spend money or not spend money on a product or service, that's on them. They can go crazy. I'll just continue to do what saves me the most money and gives me the most bang for my buck.
@NeoRatt all with free cloud saves and that play anywhere you speak of. Sounds like a better deal to me. Xbox game pass had almost $9000 worth of games in it last year. Yeah, think I'll subscribe for the low price instead lol
Gotta love the Xbox social media team. It was all fun and games when Sony did it but now they just shoot themselves in the foot so much, might as well let xbox join in on the roasting. Personally, i love it.
@CallMeDuraSouka i cant even remember the story of either of those, although the first one you needed to build areas onto the town or something along those lines, correct? Trying to remember. The vehicular combat was fun in 2 as well from what i remember.
@BowsersBuddy and the bugs should be ironed out after a few years. Not that i had many, just a few quests not starting with NPCs but other than that, keep tossing them Wing-Dings!
@BowsersBuddy I DID enjoy it, yes. Much better than the first one, actually. I believe it launched on game pass originally i wanna say. I recommend it, personally.
@ZeD yeah KILN isn't my type of game but I kept forgetting about Towerborne, which will most likely be one of the earlier releases. I'm hoping Hi-Fi Rush 2 gets an announcement trailer. What a gem of a game. And what i wouldn't give for Costume Quest 3 from Double Fine. I love the first two games.
@EvenStephen7 They've actually added quite a few things since launch (NMS that is) that you'd hardly recognize the game now. It was as bare bones as bare bones can be in 2016. A lot of people enjoy it now since it's gotten, what, 7 years of updates? Now I'm curious where Starfield will be in a few years. After the DLC and mods come out I can't wait to jump back in.
@EvenStephen7 no man's sky and starfield arent really similar games. Starfield has a deep RPG system that's focus on questing and stats of your character where as No man's sky is more of an exploration, "chill" survival type of experience. No man's sky has come a long way since it's introduction in 2016 but the two games are vastly different experiences.
@Sakai steam user review have it as negative and people say they are the most trustworthy reviews are tell it like it is but now steam votes it for an award and they are trolling lol them goal posts be a moving. They can't have it both ways.
@ZeD dont forget ABK game drops in game pass, new ABK games potentially to announce, Towerborne will be out this year, and maybe some other stuff we don't know about. Also Marcus Fenix collection, Flight Sim 2024, and who knows what else. 2024 is gonna be STACKED, brother.
@Sakai comment sections has made people too comfortable with saying whatever and whenever, hoping for engagement and attention whenever they can. The internet was a mistake lol
Starfield is definitely an incredible experience. Not surprised it won most innovative. What other game can you have multiple guns with modding, visit multiple planets, have tons of side quest, a base building game on planets, extract minerals, build/steal ships, and have a new game plus where each one can feel different the last? No other game does all of that. Guess people who play games just play and enjoy. Well deserved, Bethesda!
@themightyant not in 2024, brother. Makes me miss the late 90s/early 2000s when you had to search the doldrums of the internet or know people to get leaks. Now, like vampires, they're everywhere ...
"Now to wait for an apology." I laughed out loud when i saw this. The amount of entitlement and outrage over the literal dumbest stuff in the world has now reached a new low.
Blade said it best when Karen Jenson remarked, "You used me as bait?"
Resident Evil 2 would have to get my vote. Put Remakes on the mark IMO. We should have a most useless Remake debate because LOU Remake would ABSOLUTELY be #1 on that list lol
Well that's because they actually had a lot of stuff to talk about. Quite frankly, the others just didn't have a lot to discuss or got boring real fast. I expect 2024 to be the same.
The engagement of some of their biggest games is great. 13 mil already for this, 10s of millions for Halo and Forza 5 ect. Active users and engagement is clearly where Xbox wants their bread buttered and their plan is a good one IMO.
@Tharsman Good thing about a lot of those games you mentioned is there aren't very long, around 10-12 hours or so (except for starfield and AC Mirage might be closer to 15). But they aren't overly bloated games, which is good!
@themightyant Sea of Stars was my indie game of the year this year. Good length, perfect difficulty, and I even beat it twice to get the true ending and I almost never do that.
@themightyant Chained echoes, such a good game! I beat that in January i wanna say or last December. Great game. That's one of the only games i can remember that i switched to easy in the last area because the sky armor fights were getting far too hard for me. I wish you could have leveled up to make it easier instead of not really being able to grind in the game. Only gripe for me. Dead Space Remake was also awesome. Debating about RoboCop after a price cut, ive heard good things about it.
@themightyant watchu playing this holiday season? I just finished up Mario RPG remake (great game but definitely made easier by the triple attack and AoE for perfect hits).
@themightyant I don't think my concern for them has to do with console sales, sales of some of their biggest games ect I think it's more the evolution of the industry as a whole and my own personal idea of what i would like to see maybe. It's been a very "interesting" year for them to say the least and probably some recency bias since there's been some troubling things coming out from them basically since the ABK acquisition went through with some of the higher ups leaving and their uncertainty of what they want to do with live service games and just no clear plan for the future. PS1 is my second favorite console of all time behind only the SNES and I love what they were back then but I don't know if it's an identity problem or knowing vs not knowing what to do because their business model might not work in 2023 like it did 20 years ago. But that's not for me to say, the market will dictate that in the future. Me, personally, I'm just spoiled by the game pass, play my games any and everywhere on console/pc/cloud and day and date for a cheaper price type thing that xbox has going. Sony will never be that but I like that formula, it's easy on my wallet and I love the diversity and options that comes with that. Cheers, brother!
@themightyant you're specifically talking about Spider-man, which of course is going to sell well, and I'm sure God of War and the Last of Us are great too, but for every one of those there are games like Returnal, Ratchet and Clank, Destruction All-Stars, Death Stranding, Days Gone ect that don't. I also wasn't specifically talking about Insomniac, but Sony as a whole.
And even though Ratchet and Clank was early in the gen the console sales are way higher now and they are still only at 2.2 mil. The fact is they need to have games with long tails and recurring revenue. They also need to start putting games on PC WAY sooner and take that market seriously.
There is a reason Jim is gone, Connie Booth is gone, Bungie is a crap show, Last of Us Factions canceled ect. They need to look in the mirror and have a plan because as it stands right now they don't have a concrete roadmap for the future. Something is going on over there.
@Tharsman I'm surprised many expected Wolverine in 2024, i expected 2025 at the earliest seeing we only ever got a cgi trailer recently and nothing else. And yes, Sony is going to rely on third party games like it seems they have been recently, with remakes/remasters built in. Guarantee there will be more soon.
Interested to see where the game industry is in 5 years.
@Sakai maybe Jimbo wasn't lying when he said the ABK acquistion wouldn't allow them to recover.
The fact is MS is ALL in on gaming after having like 5 studios and no funding for decades. It was easy for them to be a punching bag. Now they are ready to invest BIG money and with Phil at the helm and Sarah Bond heading the Xbox division the future couldn't be brighter.
And yes, with Sony losing ABK marketing and such and canceling live service they cant survive on big budget games that you play once and are done with.
It won't work anymore. Guarantee game prices for them goes up again soon.
Ratchet and Clank only sold 2.2 million copies, that's super low. Also didn't break even on the budget used.
The fact of the matter is for all the talk of console sales a lot of their games fail to meet sales expectations and with these bloated budgets they are gonna have to change at some point. it just isn't sustainable.
Also talks of increasing prices of games to $80. And you wonder why i love game pass so much. Not paying $80 a pop for these shorter games that are few and far between when I get dabble in the game pass buffet for much cheaper playing all those incredible games.
Xbox is simply built up better for the future and the roadmap looks great. Sony does not seem prepared for the future.
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Re: One Of The Best Games Of Last Generation Is Coming To Xbox Game Pass Next Week
@GamingFan4Lyf another underrated xbox feature. Instead of needing multiple versions it just knows.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Dunks On PlayStation Over Dirt-Cheap Yakuza Deals
@Cikajovazmaj there's a reason i don't pocket watch what other people are doing. If someone wants to spend money or not spend money on a product or service, that's on them. They can go crazy. I'll just continue to do what saves me the most money and gives me the most bang for my buck.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Dunks On PlayStation Over Dirt-Cheap Yakuza Deals
@Cikajovazmaj i didn't say game pass offered $9000 worth of value, i said they offered $9000 worth of games, which is factually correct.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Dunks On PlayStation Over Dirt-Cheap Yakuza Deals
@NeoRatt all with free cloud saves and that play anywhere you speak of. Sounds like a better deal to me. Xbox game pass had almost $9000 worth of games in it last year. Yeah, think I'll subscribe for the low price instead lol
Re: Xbox Game Pass Dunks On PlayStation Over Dirt-Cheap Yakuza Deals
Gotta love the Xbox social media team. It was all fun and games when Sony did it but now they just shoot themselves in the foot so much, might as well let xbox join in on the roasting. Personally, i love it.
Re: Xbox Studio Double Fine Teases 'Cool Things In Store' Ahead Of 25th Anniversary
Costume Quest 3, Costume Quest 3, Costume Quest 3 ...
Re: Xbox Game Pass Dunks On PlayStation Over Dirt-Cheap Yakuza Deals
@Kaloudz Sony has been dunking on themselves since the beginning of 2023, and it's continuing in 2024.
Re: Deals: All 40+ Backwards Compatible Games In This Week's Xbox Sales (January 3-10)
@CallMeDuraSouka i cant even remember the story of either of those, although the first one you needed to build areas onto the town or something along those lines, correct? Trying to remember. The vehicular combat was fun in 2 as well from what i remember.
Re: Deals: All 40+ Backwards Compatible Games In This Week's Xbox Sales (January 3-10)
@BowsersBuddy and the bugs should be ironed out after a few years. Not that i had many, just a few quests not starting with NPCs but other than that, keep tossing them Wing-Dings!
Re: Deals: All 40+ Backwards Compatible Games In This Week's Xbox Sales (January 3-10)
@BowsersBuddy I DID enjoy it, yes. Much better than the first one, actually. I believe it launched on game pass originally i wanna say. I recommend it, personally.
Re: Deals: All 40+ Backwards Compatible Games In This Week's Xbox Sales (January 3-10)
Still think Rage is underrated as all hell. Great game IMO. Would love a third one.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Developer Direct To Return Soon, Could Include Another 'Surprise Release'
@cragis0001 looking forward to it.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Developer Direct To Return Soon, Could Include Another 'Surprise Release'
Almost forgot about FF14 this year as well. More to look forward to.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Developer Direct To Return Soon, Could Include Another 'Surprise Release'
@ZeD yeah KILN isn't my type of game but I kept forgetting about Towerborne, which will most likely be one of the earlier releases. I'm hoping Hi-Fi Rush 2 gets an announcement trailer. What a gem of a game. And what i wouldn't give for Costume Quest 3 from Double Fine. I love the first two games.
Re: Starfield Wins Steam's 'Most Innovative Gameplay' Award
@EvenStephen7 They've actually added quite a few things since launch (NMS that is) that you'd hardly recognize the game now. It was as bare bones as bare bones can be in 2016. A lot of people enjoy it now since it's gotten, what, 7 years of updates? Now I'm curious where Starfield will be in a few years. After the DLC and mods come out I can't wait to jump back in.
Re: Starfield Wins Steam's 'Most Innovative Gameplay' Award
@EvenStephen7 no man's sky and starfield arent really similar games. Starfield has a deep RPG system that's focus on questing and stats of your character where as No man's sky is more of an exploration, "chill" survival type of experience. No man's sky has come a long way since it's introduction in 2016 but the two games are vastly different experiences.
Re: Starfield Wins Steam's 'Most Innovative Gameplay' Award
@Sakai steam user review have it as negative and people say they are the most trustworthy reviews are tell it like it is but now steam votes it for an award and they are trolling lol them goal posts be a moving. They can't have it both ways.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Developer Direct To Return Soon, Could Include Another 'Surprise Release'
@ZeD dont forget ABK game drops in game pass, new ABK games potentially to announce, Towerborne will be out this year, and maybe some other stuff we don't know about. Also Marcus Fenix collection, Flight Sim 2024, and who knows what else. 2024 is gonna be STACKED, brother.
Re: Starfield Wins Steam's 'Most Innovative Gameplay' Award
@Sakai comment sections has made people too comfortable with saying whatever and whenever, hoping for engagement and attention whenever they can.
The internet was a mistake lol
Re: Starfield Wins Steam's 'Most Innovative Gameplay' Award
Starfield is definitely an incredible experience. Not surprised it won most innovative. What other game can you have multiple guns with modding, visit multiple planets, have tons of side quest, a base building game on planets, extract minerals, build/steal ships, and have a new game plus where each one can feel different the last? No other game does all of that. Guess people who play games just play and enjoy. Well deserved, Bethesda!
Re: Rumour: Xbox 'Actively' Working On New Banjo-Kazooie Game
@themightyant not in 2024, brother. Makes me miss the late 90s/early 2000s when you had to search the doldrums of the internet or know people to get leaks. Now, like vampires, they're everywhere ...
Re: Five Activision Games We Want To Become Xbox Backwards Compatible In 2024
Tony Hawk Remaster and i never played the 2009 Wolfenstein game. Would love to try those.
Re: Five Activision Games We Want To Become Xbox Backwards Compatible In 2024
@jikflet Singularity. My man!
Re: Mickey Mouse Looks Creepy As All-Hell In New Horror Game 'Infestation 88'
If it's in game pass, i'll play it ...
Re: Xbox Owner Receives Year-Long Ban After Uploading Baldur's Gate 3 Clips
@GeeEssEff i find it funny, regardless. You certainly wont catch me taking a clip of that, as i wouldn't feel the need to anyway.
Live and learn.
Re: Xbox Owner Receives Year-Long Ban After Uploading Baldur's Gate 3 Clips
I'm sure he'll learn his lesson really fast on how to turn auto uploading to the server off.
Re: Pick One: Which Is Your Favourite Xbox First-Party Release Of 2023?
STAHFIELD for sure. That's crazy how many first party releases they had this year and there might be more in 2024!
Re: Xbox Sparks Fury Over Using AI-Generated Art To Promote Indie Games
"Now to wait for an apology." I laughed out loud when i saw this. The amount of entitlement and outrage over the literal dumbest stuff in the world has now reached a new low.
Blade said it best when Karen Jenson remarked, "You used me as bait?"
"GET OVER IT," Blade said.
Re: Talking Point: What's Your Favourite Xbox Remake Of All Time?
Resident Evil 2 would have to get my vote. Put Remakes on the mark IMO. We should have a most useless Remake debate because LOU Remake would ABSOLUTELY be #1 on that list lol
Re: Xbox Takes #1 Spot In Top Ten 'Most Covered' Games And Companies Of 2023
Well that's because they actually had a lot of stuff to talk about. Quite frankly, the others just didn't have a lot to discuss or got boring real fast. I expect 2024 to be the same.
Re: Talking Point: What Was The Greatest Xbox 360 Game Of All Time?
My top 5 of that gen for me were Fallout 3, Skyrim, Bioshock, Dead Space and FF13. Such a great generation!
Re: Starfield Celebrates 13 Million Players With A New Infographic
The engagement of some of their biggest games is great. 13 mil already for this, 10s of millions for Halo and Forza 5 ect. Active users and engagement is clearly where Xbox wants their bread buttered and their plan is a good one IMO.
Re: Xbox Makes Leadership Changes As Bobby Kotick Leaves Activision & Microsoft
Bobby gone! Xbox news just keeps gettin' better. Will miss Lulu, though.
Re: Bethesda Teases Six Major New Features Coming To Starfield In 2024
Can't wait to jump back in.
Re: Former Xbox Dev Insomniac Suffers Devastating Leak From Hackers
@Tharsman Good thing about a lot of those games you mentioned is there aren't very long, around 10-12 hours or so (except for starfield and AC Mirage might be closer to 15). But they aren't overly bloated games, which is good!
Re: 'Lies Of P' Developer Thrilled With Results Of Xbox Game Pass Partnership
Ya love to hear it!
Re: These Five Games Are Finally Making Us Consider Ubisoft Plus On Xbox
Might have to get it for a few months and then canceled. Decent lineup there.
Re: Former Xbox Dev Insomniac Suffers Devastating Leak From Hackers
@themightyant Sea of Stars was my indie game of the year this year. Good length, perfect difficulty, and I even beat it twice to get the true ending and I almost never do that.
Re: Former Xbox Dev Insomniac Suffers Devastating Leak From Hackers
@Tharsman Indeed. Watchu playing this holiday season my good man?
Re: Former Xbox Dev Insomniac Suffers Devastating Leak From Hackers
@themightyant Chained echoes, such a good game! I beat that in January i wanna say or last December. Great game. That's one of the only games i can remember that i switched to easy in the last area because the sky armor fights were getting far too hard for me. I wish you could have leveled up to make it easier instead of not really being able to grind in the game. Only gripe for me.
Dead Space Remake was also awesome. Debating about RoboCop after a price cut, ive heard good things about it.
Re: Former Xbox Dev Insomniac Suffers Devastating Leak From Hackers
@themightyant watchu playing this holiday season? I just finished up Mario RPG remake (great game but definitely made easier by the triple attack and AoE for perfect hits).
Re: Former Xbox Dev Insomniac Suffers Devastating Leak From Hackers
@themightyant got Alan Wake 2 on discount so gonna see what all the fuss was about. Excited to jump in.
Re: After Redfall, Bethesda Appears To Be Switching Engines Again For Marvel's Blade
Excited to see what this game turns into, probably 3 years out though.
Re: Former Xbox Dev Insomniac Suffers Devastating Leak From Hackers
@themightyant I don't think my concern for them has to do with console sales, sales of some of their biggest games ect I think it's more the evolution of the industry as a whole and my own personal idea of what i would like to see maybe.
It's been a very "interesting" year for them to say the least and probably some recency bias since there's been some troubling things coming out from them basically since the ABK acquisition went through with some of the higher ups leaving and their uncertainty of what they want to do with live service games and just no clear plan for the future.
PS1 is my second favorite console of all time behind only the SNES and I love what they were back then but I don't know if it's an identity problem or knowing vs not knowing what to do because their business model might not work in 2023 like it did 20 years ago. But that's not for me to say, the market will dictate that in the future. Me, personally, I'm just spoiled by the game pass, play my games any and everywhere on console/pc/cloud and day and date for a cheaper price type thing that xbox has going.
Sony will never be that but I like that formula, it's easy on my wallet and I love the diversity and options that comes with that.
Cheers, brother!
Re: Former Xbox Dev Insomniac Suffers Devastating Leak From Hackers
@themightyant you're specifically talking about Spider-man, which of course is going to sell well, and I'm sure God of War and the Last of Us are great too, but for every one of those there are games like Returnal, Ratchet and Clank, Destruction All-Stars, Death Stranding, Days Gone ect that don't. I also wasn't specifically talking about Insomniac, but Sony as a whole.
And even though Ratchet and Clank was early in the gen the console sales are way higher now and they are still only at 2.2 mil. The fact is they need to have games with long tails and recurring revenue. They also need to start putting games on PC WAY sooner and take that market seriously.
There is a reason Jim is gone, Connie Booth is gone, Bungie is a crap show, Last of Us Factions canceled ect. They need to look in the mirror and have a plan because as it stands right now they don't have a concrete roadmap for the future. Something is going on over there.
Re: Former Xbox Dev Insomniac Suffers Devastating Leak From Hackers
@Tharsman I guess i should update my "recent" comment. But wasn't the wolverine reveal trailer in 2021, not 2018? That seems too long ago.
Re: Former Xbox Dev Insomniac Suffers Devastating Leak From Hackers
@Tharsman I'm surprised many expected Wolverine in 2024, i expected 2025 at the earliest seeing we only ever got a cgi trailer recently and nothing else.
And yes, Sony is going to rely on third party games like it seems they have been recently, with remakes/remasters built in. Guarantee there will be more soon.
Interested to see where the game industry is in 5 years.
Re: Former Xbox Dev Insomniac Suffers Devastating Leak From Hackers
@Sakai maybe Jimbo wasn't lying when he said the ABK acquistion wouldn't allow them to recover.
The fact is MS is ALL in on gaming after having like 5 studios and no funding for decades. It was easy for them to be a punching bag. Now they are ready to invest BIG money and with Phil at the helm and Sarah Bond heading the Xbox division the future couldn't be brighter.
And yes, with Sony losing ABK marketing and such and canceling live service they cant survive on big budget games that you play once and are done with.
It won't work anymore. Guarantee game prices for them goes up again soon.
Re: Former Xbox Dev Insomniac Suffers Devastating Leak From Hackers
Ratchet and Clank only sold 2.2 million copies, that's super low. Also didn't break even on the budget used.
The fact of the matter is for all the talk of console sales a lot of their games fail to meet sales expectations and with these bloated budgets they are gonna have to change at some point. it just isn't sustainable.
Also talks of increasing prices of games to $80. And you wonder why i love game pass so much. Not paying $80 a pop for these shorter games that are few and far between when I get dabble in the game pass buffet for much cheaper playing all those incredible games.
Xbox is simply built up better for the future and the roadmap looks great. Sony does not seem prepared for the future.
Re: Victrix's New Wireless Pro Xbox Controller Includes An Optional PS5 Layout
PS layout? Never. Offset sticks for life!