@CaptainCluck game pass was the reason most of those studios were able to release games in the first place. Game pass made 5B in revenue in the fiscal year 25 and was actually subsidizing other parts of the business because it was bringing in a ton of cash. The increase to $30 is what screwed them, not the concept itself.
So no, game pass was not losing money for xbox, it was helping it, and if you look at the articles that break it down recently you would see that ...
@BacklogBrad was thinking the same thing lol! Gaming is the only hobby or entertainment medium that i know of that consumers would argue in favor of paying more and siding with corporations than their own pocket.
I've loved my time in game pass and actually found some games i wouldn't have bought otherwise and LOVED them. With the 1st party output from XBOX finally hitting a good peak my only problem is finding the time ...
Checked out the gameplay later yesterday and this looks insane. Did not expect to be as hyped as i am. This could very well be GOTY based on early impressions.
@Banjo- Exactly. I've had no remorse for not getting a PS5 this gen (I've owned all ps hardware prior to 2020) and aside from that Zelda OoT remake i dont care for a switch either. Xbox has so many games now that couples with the Rog Xbox Ally is all i need these days.
@Banjo- Thankfully games like Earth defense force, TouHou, and Muramasa I have NO interest in and are such niche titles i can see why those are skipping. I still have hope for Stellar blade and thankfully Square Enix (who is my most import JRPG studio) has 100% shown now every game is multiplat as KH, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest ect are all day one.
We've come a long way from 10 years ago all those plus Yakuza, Tales series ect ALWAYS skipping xbox.
@themightyant it appears to be inspired by the characters ect of Brave Exvius but otherwise this gives me solace ...
"This is not a port or even a remake of Brave Exvius, rather it serves as the narrative foundation with a whole new combat system and overworld. Its story has been tuned for a traditional RPG that's informed by Brave Exvius' first season with everything else built from the ground up."
I've owned 1 special edition console ever, the batman arkham knight silver ps4. Ive since only been gaming on series x and rog xbox ally this gen (switch doesnt have much for me any more and ps5 I havent needed it for the few games i might wanna play) so ill probably end up getting this. Gonna have the wife get it for me for christmas!
I exclusively never use quick resume, ever. I think with how fast games load up ect i just completely shut the game down every time and restart it as normal every time.
@HonestHick it's crazy too that even tho OLED is pricey as hell, it's come way down over the years.
I still have my 55" LG E6 OLED from 2016 (back when OLED was pretty new) and I remember that thing costing around $2300. My 65" in 2019 was like 1500-1700.
@MidnightDragonDX only saving grace is its about time MS starts remembering the first quarter of the year because traditionally the backload the calendar.
Although the last year or so they've been putting stuff up front now.
@carlos82 and i COMPLETELY forgot about that rumored OoT Remake too. If that releases Nov/Dec then yeah Fable wouldnt have had anywhere to drop, really.
@carlos82 im not a GTA dude myself, either. I wont be playing GTA 6 this year but looks like during the holidays i can get caught up on 007, lego batman, pragmata, RE Requiem ect. Gonna be a backlog holidays.
So glad i was able to get the Series X and the Xbox Ally on launch days. I had a steam deck at one point but traded it for the functionality and flexibility of the Xbox ally.
Those two systems, along with game pass, are keeping me fed for a LONG time.
Already been playing this more than any of the other games. I feel like progression is great with the wristband and discover japan two sides of the same coin.
Gonna get all the treasure cars and barn finds too. My BMW M2 Competition Coupe is probably my favorite care so far. That and my Lancer Evo VIII MR.
People are LOVING this game and the concurrent players is HUGE. Playground really is becoming one of the best devs in the industry, especially if they can pull of Fable.
I'm not a GTA 6 fan but i know it'll do numbers. Forza 6, FF7Rebirth, Lego Batman, Gears E-Day and Fable are gonna take up all my time until the end of the year ...
@themightyant I suppose i should specify, for play anywhere i meant in general, not necessarily this game. I hope next gen there are a lot more play anywhere titles because i LOVE having that between the console and the handheld.
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Re: "The Catalogue Was Just Nowhere Near Good Enough" - Ori Creator Likens Xbox Game Pass To A "Slop Factory"
@BacklogBrad I was told 8's are trash from everyone online, personally ...
Re: "The Catalogue Was Just Nowhere Near Good Enough" - Ori Creator Likens Xbox Game Pass To A "Slop Factory"
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Re: "The Catalogue Was Just Nowhere Near Good Enough" - Ori Creator Likens Xbox Game Pass To A "Slop Factory"
@Fishmasterflex96 tell me what's sustainable then? Is live service sustainable? Is selling games $70 a pop sustainable? What's sustainable?
If you havent noticed other publishers are closing studios and laying people off.
Would love to hear how all the studios team blue closes are getting by not being on a service ...
Re: "The Catalogue Was Just Nowhere Near Good Enough" - Ori Creator Likens Xbox Game Pass To A "Slop Factory"
@CaptainCluck game pass was the reason most of those studios were able to release games in the first place. Game pass made 5B in revenue in the fiscal year 25 and was actually subsidizing other parts of the business because it was bringing in a ton of cash. The increase to $30 is what screwed them, not the concept itself.
So no, game pass was not losing money for xbox, it was helping it, and if you look at the articles that break it down recently you would see that ...
Re: "The Catalogue Was Just Nowhere Near Good Enough" - Ori Creator Likens Xbox Game Pass To A "Slop Factory"
@MinervaX76 yeah whats harming the industry is far bigger and wider reaching. You see that Steam Machine price?
Wow.
Re: "The Catalogue Was Just Nowhere Near Good Enough" - Ori Creator Likens Xbox Game Pass To A "Slop Factory"
@Fishmasterflex96 thats your opinion. not mine.
Re: "The Catalogue Was Just Nowhere Near Good Enough" - Ori Creator Likens Xbox Game Pass To A "Slop Factory"
@BacklogBrad was thinking the same thing lol! Gaming is the only hobby or entertainment medium that i know of that consumers would argue in favor of paying more and siding with corporations than their own pocket.
Only community i've seen it.
Re: "The Catalogue Was Just Nowhere Near Good Enough" - Ori Creator Likens Xbox Game Pass To A "Slop Factory"
@Questionable_Duck people wanna ignore industry problems and make em big bad Microsoft problems. Just is what it is.
I see PS is all about that AI enhancing gaming. MS says it "outrage," PS says it "crickets."
I just laughed at the ignorance of the gaming media ...
Re: "The Catalogue Was Just Nowhere Near Good Enough" - Ori Creator Likens Xbox Game Pass To A "Slop Factory"
@HonestHick the fact Sony charges what they charge for PS Plus without first party day and date should be criminal.
But since they only release a few games a year they dont have the output for it ...
Re: "The Catalogue Was Just Nowhere Near Good Enough" - Ori Creator Likens Xbox Game Pass To A "Slop Factory"
I've loved my time in game pass and actually found some games i wouldn't have bought otherwise and LOVED them. With the 1st party output from XBOX finally hitting a good peak my only problem is finding the time ...
Mahler just talks too damn much ...
Re: 20+ Of The Best Games From Xbox's Five New Mid-June 2026 Sales
@fatpunkslim Me as well. Im looking forward to playing that game but i'm waiting for $50 or less.
Re: Xbox's 30-Minute Fable Gameplay Is Getting Great Feedback, Aside From Minor Concerns
Checked out the gameplay later yesterday and this looks insane. Did not expect to be as hyped as i am. This could very well be GOTY based on early impressions.
Re: The Coalition Reveals Campaign Length & Other New Details For Gears Of War: E-Day
CANNOT WAIT FOR THIS...
Re: Roundup: All The Biggest Xbox Reveals From June's Nintendo Direct
@Banjo- Exactly. I've had no remorse for not getting a PS5 this gen (I've owned all ps hardware prior to 2020) and aside from that Zelda OoT remake i dont care for a switch either. Xbox has so many games now that couples with the Rog Xbox Ally is all i need these days.
Re: Roundup: All The Biggest Xbox Reveals From June's Nintendo Direct
@Banjo- Thankfully games like Earth defense force, TouHou, and Muramasa I have NO interest in and are such niche titles i can see why those are skipping. I still have hope for Stellar blade and thankfully Square Enix (who is my most import JRPG studio) has 100% shown now every game is multiplat as KH, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest ect are all day one.
We've come a long way from 10 years ago all those plus Yakuza, Tales series ect ALWAYS skipping xbox.
Re: Roundup: All The Biggest Xbox Reveals From June's Nintendo Direct
@Banjo- in theory, yes. I'm a final fantasy legacy dude from the original in 1990 so im all over this!
Re: Roundup: All The Biggest Xbox Reveals From June's Nintendo Direct
@themightyant it appears to be inspired by the characters ect of Brave Exvius but otherwise this gives me solace ...
"This is not a port or even a remake of Brave Exvius, rather it serves as the narrative foundation with a whole new combat system and overworld. Its story has been tuned for a traditional RPG that's informed by Brave Exvius' first season with everything else built from the ground up."
Re: Roundup: All The Biggest Xbox Reveals From June's Nintendo Direct
@MinervaX76 FFR and KH4 confirmed Play Anywhere. Looks like SE are all in with the Play Anywhere stuff!
Re: Roundup: All The Biggest Xbox Reveals From June's Nintendo Direct
i really wish they showed more of OoT. I'm sure ill get it but they showed almost nothing.
Re: Roundup: All The Biggest Xbox Reveals From June's Nintendo Direct
@RadioHedgeFund ign has an exclusive 10 minute game play. it sounds like a story driven single player, so im back on board again.
Re: Roundup: All The Biggest Xbox Reveals From June's Nintendo Direct
@RadioHedgeFund Dont do this to me. Thats my most hyped game from the show. I just want a traditional game in the HD-2D sprite form.
Re: Stellar Blade: Blood Rain Dev Hints At Potential Day One Xbox Release
I have to assume the first one will come to xbox soon. Havent played it yet.
Re: Xbox Series X25 Limited Edition Console & Controller Announced
I've owned 1 special edition console ever, the batman arkham knight silver ps4. Ive since only been gaming on series x and rog xbox ally this gen (switch doesnt have much for me any more and ps5 I havent needed it for the few games i might wanna play) so ill probably end up getting this. Gonna have the wife get it for me for christmas!
Re: Xbox Series X25 Limited Edition Console & Controller Announced
UGH guess ill be selling my day 1 Series X for this beast!
Re: FF7 Rebirth Comparison Highlights Pros & Cons Of The Xbox Series X|S Versions
If it's similar to the xbox demo i already played on series x, it ran great and looked great on my end.
Already bought it (i did beat it on steam once before) but cant wait to jump in!
Re: 'Lost 255 Hours Of Progress' - Forza Horizon 6 Players Warn Of Xbox & PC Saving Issue
I exclusively never use quick resume, ever. I think with how fast games load up ect i just completely shut the game down every time and restart it as normal every time.
Never would trust it to work.
Re: Xbox Ally X Gets Bigger OLED Screen As ASUS Reveals 'X20' Handheld
@GeeEssEff Your steam deck is worth a fortune now. Might get a nice chunka coin for it.
Re: Here's What The First 'Hands On' Previews Say About The ROG Xbox Ally X20
@Banjo- a man of culture, i see!
Re: Here's What The First 'Hands On' Previews Say About The ROG Xbox Ally X20
@HonestHick it's crazy too that even tho OLED is pricey as hell, it's come way down over the years.
I still have my 55" LG E6 OLED from 2016 (back when OLED was pretty new) and I remember that thing costing around $2300. My 65" in 2019 was like 1500-1700.
Re: Here's What The First 'Hands On' Previews Say About The ROG Xbox Ally X20
@HonestHick OLED for life brother, we only run with LG OLED in this household as well ...
Re: Xbox Delays Fable To February 2027, And It's Basically Because Of GTA 6
@devil76 no sir. Good eatin'!
Re: Matt Booty Explains Why Xbox Won't Talk About Project Helix At June's Showcase
Good. Focus on the games and talk about Helix at the end of the year.
Re: Xbox Delays Fable To February 2027, And It's Basically Because Of GTA 6
@MidnightDragonDX only saving grace is its about time MS starts remembering the first quarter of the year because traditionally the backload the calendar.
Although the last year or so they've been putting stuff up front now.
Re: Xbox Delays Fable To February 2027, And It's Basically Because Of GTA 6
@carlos82 and i COMPLETELY forgot about that rumored OoT Remake too. If that releases Nov/Dec then yeah Fable wouldnt have had anywhere to drop, really.
Re: Xbox Delays Fable To February 2027, And It's Basically Because Of GTA 6
@carlos82 im not a GTA dude myself, either. I wont be playing GTA 6 this year but looks like during the holidays i can get caught up on 007, lego batman, pragmata, RE Requiem ect. Gonna be a backlog holidays.
Re: Xbox Delays Fable To February 2027, And It's Basically Because Of GTA 6
Was REALLY looking forward to this game at the end of the year, just a little bit longer i guess.
I don't like it, but i understand it.
Re: Steam Deck Has Gone Up In Price Massively, And It Makes ROG Xbox Ally Look Great Value In 2026
So glad i was able to get the Series X and the Xbox Ally on launch days. I had a steam deck at one point but traded it for the functionality and flexibility of the Xbox ally.
Those two systems, along with game pass, are keeping me fed for a LONG time.
Re: Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 4 Launches This October, And It Won't Be On Xbox One
This one lookin' good. Not gonna lie.
Re: The Outer Worlds Dev Alters Free Xbox & PS5 Upgrade Due To 'Platform Limitations'
Glad i have both DLCs!
Re: Two Major Announcements Revealed At Dragon Quest's 40th Anniversary Showcase
They restarted development i heard, that's why its taking so long.
Re: Five Things I'm Loving About 007 First Light On Xbox Series X So Far
I was not huge on this game and i'm not a bond fan, but this does look good.
Re: Two Games Are Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (May 27)
Outer Worlds. Such a gem!
Re: Forza Horizon 6 Seemingly Sold Almost 5 Million Copies Before Its Opening Weekend
Already been playing this more than any of the other games. I feel like progression is great with the wristband and discover japan two sides of the same coin.
Gonna get all the treasure cars and barn finds too. My BMW M2 Competition Coupe is probably my favorite care so far. That and my Lancer Evo VIII MR.
People are LOVING this game and the concurrent players is HUGE. Playground really is becoming one of the best devs in the industry, especially if they can pull of Fable.
Re: Xbox Racks Up 37 Million Views With A Single Post About GTA 6
I'm not a GTA 6 fan but i know it'll do numbers. Forza 6, FF7Rebirth, Lego Batman, Gears E-Day and Fable are gonna take up all my time until the end of the year ...
Re: Five Things I'm Loving About 007 First Light On Xbox Series X So Far
Man I love that it's play anywhere, such a great service for Xbox players.
I have so much to play though so ill wait for a sale.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Xbox Preload Now Live, And The Download Is Absolutely Massive
Already pre-order months ago and ready to download. Thank God for fiber in my area.
Re: Forza Horizon 6 Smashes Concurrent Player Record For Xbox Game Studios On Steam
Insane numbers right there considering FH5 peak was only 81k.
Re: Darksiders Warmastered Edition Upgrade Is Free For Existing Owners On Xbox
@themightyant I suppose i should specify, for play anywhere i meant in general, not necessarily this game. I hope next gen there are a lot more play anywhere titles because i LOVE having that between the console and the handheld.
Re: Two New Xbox Series X|S Backgrounds Added To Celebrate The Launch Of Forza Horizon 6
@PartyMarty Can't go wrong with the cherry blossoms
Re: Darksiders Warmastered Edition Upgrade Is Free For Existing Owners On Xbox
Thank you Smart Delivery and Play Anywhere. Ensuring I'll stay in that ecosystem ...