@Millionski same with me. I main xbox because it gets so many games now and i just preordered the switch 2 so i can play Zelda (one of my favorite franchises) and the occasional Mario.
@Sol4ris i predicted it would get an 89. After watching a lot of the skill up review and how the actual game plays with empty environment, stale combat, and super linear gameplay with a multitude of scent trails and markers to point you in the right direction?
Yeah that does not look like a good game. Im shocked it's even THAT high of an aggregate score after i watched the video.
I couldnt justify the $900 console when i saw it (I have the launch series x still) but looks like even if i wanted it it was sold out in less than 10 minutes. even the controller sold out the first day, luckily i was able to grab one of those.
What i dont understand is why doesnt Sony allow their studios to go independent or sell them to other publishers?
Xbox and Embracer are the only two publishers i can think of that actually negotiate buyouts with their studios while the others just flat out shut them down. AND they get to keep their IPs.
More companies need to look for other solutions ...
i expected far worse. I heard bloodbath WAY too many times. The fact that none of the 4 being rumored were shut down is actually crazy, because they are able to stay open for the short term.
Xbox is so far ahead when it comes to preparing for a digital future. With their back compat, dual entitlement with play anywhere, and now disc to digital?
Especially when it comes to security and worrying about digital purchases im way more comfortable with xbox than Playstation.
I refuse to even put my CC in Sony's database at this point.
The best part about games that arent play anywhere is that a majority of them are on cloud with free cloud saves, thats what I end up doing with a lot of the stuff.
If i can't play it natively on rog xbox ally ill cloud stream it and pull in the cloud save (for the graphically intensive games, it actually performs better in a lot of cases than trying to run native).
Never needed the feature until i bought the xbox rog ally to couple with my series X. Even the cloud on that runs great (if you have gP ultimate with the better quality).
@Fiendish-Beaver i think you missed the part where i talked about cod/battlefield/fortnite/apex ect in another post. Unless you’re a super popular game like that it.
Gears aint hittin those numbers and it would mean more to keep it exclusive than put it on PS.
@KPS i specifically said games like COD, fortnite, ect are beasts in the industry and helldivers did well, but games that arent a live service or a huge known commodity aren't going to do those kind of numbers like Battlefield, apex ect.
Gears of War E-Day i don't think would have done that well.
@MinervaX76 I guess i shouldnt say "they dont like fps" what i should say is they prefer certain types of games over others, as do xbox players and nintendo and pc.
I LOVE jrpgs and i game on xbox so yes there is some blurring of the lines and SOME will do well over there, i think Fable will do big numbers.
@MinervaX76 that is true, yes. But for the most part their live service push has been a failure (aside from helldivers).
Also since COD is, well, COD, i dont see Gears having that same effect as the others.
Like Forza and stuff makes sense, but since Gears isnt technically a free to play live service game like fortnite, roblox ect i wouldnt see that having similar success.
@AI-Generation PS5 audience doesn't care for shooter games like xbox/pc. There also arent huge into multiplayer like those other audiences.
They'll be playing wolverine and Phantom Blade Zero and waiting for GTA, dont think it would have done all that well, maybe 2 mil and thats pushing it, my money woulda been closer to 1.
Not just Xbox getting a reset, but the whole gaming industry needs a reset. High console prices and now games probably gonna be $80 after GTA comes out.
Bloated budgets and long turnaround times also. COVID really messed up the gaming industry too.
@dreadful I believe the amount of people getting laid off will be the same or more of a head count than double fine, ninja theory, and compulsion combined.
$80 doesnt surprise me, nor deter me from buying, since i wasnt gonna buy anyway. Not that into GTA and my backlog will be quite large by mid November.
Gotta stock up on all those 3-6 month old games during the black Friday sale.
It means that, for what it is, its struggling to be as powerful as the base ps5/xsx at DOUBLE the price. You want a controller? Pay $80 more.
People "claimed" it would be a helix killer and shake up the console market but looks more like a super niche, overpriced piece of tech that'll be a wet fart rather than the monster it was supposed to be.
It was an intriguing proposition at a cheap price but for THIS price? No thanks, I'll get the 25th anniversary xbox and wait for the helix after.
@Fishmasterflex96 i just dont know what the solution would be because i just dont think this is an xbox specific problem.
If ONLY xbox had a problem with game budgets and putting things out that takes years, or with lay offs and closures, and things of that nature then it would have to be accounted for, but the industry as a whole has so many issues (mainly due to costs) its hard to point the finger at 1 things.
Although that is kind of straying off toping because the article is about what this guy sees as slop and ive just seen so much great content for me its hard for me to agree with him.
I suppose with any service that has 400+ of anything for all different tastes there will be plenty of content that doesnt appeal to people, just part if having that much diversity and content on any movie/gaming/streaming service.
@Fishmasterflex96 like @backlogbrad said though a lot of those arent "slop." Looking at the scores of a lot of the xbox games from the last few years they've scored well. Many in low to mid 80's, some higher, some lower.
Basically a lot of them score where a majority of publishers games score, if he's talking about 1st party that is. And Forza 6 just blew it out of the water.
For 3rd party Expedition 33 and some other 3rd party were awesome as hell, and now we got plague tale, persona 6, and gears and fable ect coming down the pipe? Im saving so much money on all these games i would have bout.
That to me is a stellar lineup and thank God i dont have to buy all those and can partake in game pass.
With budgets and hardware increasing ect i just hope the price of game pass doesn't slap us across the face again.
@Fishmasterflex96 those aren't good enough with OR without game pass tho, thats the issue. If you dont like those games in game pass they werent gonna do much without it either and still be in deep trouble.
I LOVED south of midnight, avowed, hellblade 2, outer worlds 2 ect and now it sounds like everyone is just gonna focus on big budget, safe bet stuff.
Sadly we'll probably get fewer games a year now and similar experiences. I've gotten so much value and awesomeness from the games in game pass on my time with it ill be sad when it changes.
@Fishmasterflex96 if you cant have a simple discussion online without going off the deep-end then i can't help you.
COD was taken off because when MS jacked the price up and released a terrible COD it didn't make business sense for that game. 99.9% of games aren't COD, so we can't put them under one umbrella. And nothing IS a one thing fix all, you're right, that's why we cant lump everything in with COD.
Hell, half the publishers in the industry say games "don't meet expectations." Look at Square-Enix, Sony, Embracer, EA, Ubisoft ect ect all having layoffs and closing studios here and there.
There is a much wider problem going on in this industry and ballooning prices (whether hardware, software, or subscriptions) are the issue plaguing all of us.
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Re: Xbox Is Officially Taking Over From PlayStation On Hideo Kojima's New 'PHYSINT' Game
@Millionski same with me. I main xbox because it gets so many games now and i just preordered the switch 2 so i can play Zelda (one of my favorite franchises) and the occasional Mario.
Re: Xbox Is Officially Taking Over From PlayStation On Hideo Kojima's New 'PHYSINT' Game
@Sol4ris i predicted it would get an 89. After watching a lot of the skill up review and how the actual game plays with empty environment, stale combat, and super linear gameplay with a multitude of scent trails and markers to point you in the right direction?
Yeah that does not look like a good game. Im shocked it's even THAT high of an aggregate score after i watched the video.
Re: Xbox Is Officially Taking Over From PlayStation On Hideo Kojima's New 'PHYSINT' Game
@SleeplessKnight yes
Re: 25+ Of The Best Discounted Games From Xbox's Publisher Spotlight Sale
@HelloCraigo i spent my life savings on all that zelda stuff a few days ago tho, i need to recoup funds!
Re: 25+ Of The Best Discounted Games From Xbox's Publisher Spotlight Sale
Pragmata is tempting ...
Re: Xbox Is Officially Taking Over From PlayStation On Hideo Kojima's New 'PHYSINT' Game
... and to top it off Playstation's biggest game of the year, Wolverine, is in the 70's over at Metacritic.
Didn't have that on my bingo card.
Re: The Xbox Series X25 Is Now Available To Pre-Order, And Here's Where You Can Buy It
There's only 25k of these available to the entire world so im not surprised it took less than 10 minutes.
Re: The Xbox Series X25 Is Now Available To Pre-Order, And Here's Where You Can Buy It
I couldnt justify the $900 console when i saw it (I have the launch series x still) but looks like even if i wanted it it was sold out in less than 10 minutes. even the controller sold out the first day, luckily i was able to grab one of those.
Re: 15 New Xbox Games Are Releasing Today, Plus A Day One Game Pass Launch
Enjoyed the hell out of the first 2 Plague Tale comes. Top 5 games of the year when they released. I expect to thoroughly enjoy this one as well.
Re: Two More Xbox Game Pass Titles Have Just Been Announced For September
well dweller looks to be my jam.
Re: Xbox Disc To Digital Announced, Supports Thousands Of Physical Games At Launch
Great to hear! Im all digital now anyway but happy that stuff like this exists. Making it play anywhere is also cool.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Could Have A 'Pretty Big Surprise' Lined Up For Gamescom 2026
I'm neck deep in Madden 27 (loving it) which Plague Tale will follow. Bring on more surprises, Xbox!
Re: Kingdom Hearts IV Joins Xbox Play Anywhere, Along With Multiple Other Surprises
Love me some play anywhere, makes me more inclined to buy since i know ill be able to play it on my ROG Ally as well.
Re: Xbox Announces 3,200 Job Losses And Four Studio Departures
What i dont understand is why doesnt Sony allow their studios to go independent or sell them to other publishers?
Xbox and Embracer are the only two publishers i can think of that actually negotiate buyouts with their studios while the others just flat out shut them down. AND they get to keep their IPs.
More companies need to look for other solutions ...
Re: Xbox Announces 3,200 Job Losses And Four Studio Departures
i expected far worse. I heard bloodbath WAY too many times. The fact that none of the 4 being rumored were shut down is actually crazy, because they are able to stay open for the short term.
Also expected way for layoffs.
Re: Report: Xbox Disc-To-Digital Feature Will Allow You To Digitise Your Physical Collection
@IronCrow86 dont most movies already have a digital copy included if you buy the version that included blu ray + digital?
Re: Report: Xbox Disc-To-Digital Feature Will Allow You To Digitise Your Physical Collection
Xbox is so far ahead when it comes to preparing for a digital future. With their back compat, dual entitlement with play anywhere, and now disc to digital?
Especially when it comes to security and worrying about digital purchases im way more comfortable with xbox than Playstation.
I refuse to even put my CC in Sony's database at this point.
Re: As PlayStation Announces The End Of Disc-Based Releases, Will Xbox Follow Suit?
I expected this for years. I hear the people over on Push love it. At least we can stop using UK physical sales data as console war fodder now.
It wasn't indicative of true numbers for a while now, anyway.
Re: Xbox Play Anywhere Deserves Serious Praise After Passing 2,000 Supported Games
The best part about games that arent play anywhere is that a majority of them are on cloud with free cloud saves, thats what I end up doing with a lot of the stuff.
If i can't play it natively on rog xbox ally ill cloud stream it and pull in the cloud save (for the graphically intensive games, it actually performs better in a lot of cases than trying to run native).
Re: Xbox Play Anywhere Deserves Serious Praise After Passing 2,000 Supported Games
Never needed the feature until i bought the xbox rog ally to couple with my series X. Even the cloud on that runs great (if you have gP ultimate with the better quality).
Such a great feature.
Re: 'Hooked Me From Minute One' - Beast Of Reincarnation Could Be A Must-Play On Xbox Game Pass
I might give it a go, many other games still to play!
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
@Romans12 most people gonna get that Ultimate edition since it has locked content too. Nasty work.
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
@MinervaX76 curious when their last bundle even was. Fortnite and call of duty, maybe?
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
@Fishmasterflex96 we get it, your a massive playstation fan who cant stand xbox or anyone besmirching the great sony name.
There’s a reason your comments keep getting removed for trolling/baiting on purexbox.
If you wanna fanboy do that over on Push.
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
@Fiendish-Beaver i think you missed the part where i talked about cod/battlefield/fortnite/apex ect in another post. Unless you’re a super popular game like that it.
Gears aint hittin those numbers and it would mean more to keep it exclusive than put it on PS.
Xbox/PC will be just fine.
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
@KPS i specifically said games like COD, fortnite, ect are beasts in the industry and helldivers did well, but games that arent a live service or a huge known commodity aren't going to do those kind of numbers like Battlefield, apex ect.
Gears of War E-Day i don't think would have done that well.
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
@Enriesto indeed. and now with prices being what they are ect i think people are just stuck where they are "for the most part."
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
@awp69 i think they cant make that many so they just increase the price to make money on the ones they CAN make, unfortunately for the consumers.
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
@MinervaX76 I guess i shouldnt say "they dont like fps" what i should say is they prefer certain types of games over others, as do xbox players and nintendo and pc.
I LOVE jrpgs and i game on xbox so yes there is some blurring of the lines and SOME will do well over there, i think Fable will do big numbers.
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
@MinervaX76 that is true, yes. But for the most part their live service push has been a failure (aside from helldivers).
Also since COD is, well, COD, i dont see Gears having that same effect as the others.
Like Forza and stuff makes sense, but since Gears isnt technically a free to play live service game like fortnite, roblox ect i wouldnt see that having similar success.
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
@AI-Generation PS5 audience doesn't care for shooter games like xbox/pc. There also arent huge into multiplayer like those other audiences.
They'll be playing wolverine and Phantom Blade Zero and waiting for GTA, dont think it would have done all that well, maybe 2 mil and thats pushing it, my money woulda been closer to 1.
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
@Millionski yeah they should have waited. Call of duty and GTA 6 release this year, keep it cheap until AFTER the holidays.
Curious who else increases price by the end of the year.
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
@Fiendish-Beaver E-day isn't a live service game. its multiplayer but not live service. 2 different things.
Re: Sony Issues Statement Announcing 'Significant' Job Cuts At Bungie
@AI-Generation that you did.
Re: Sony Issues Statement Announcing 'Significant' Job Cuts At Bungie
@Fishmasterflex96 if you say so.
Re: Sony Issues Statement Announcing 'Significant' Job Cuts At Bungie
Not just Xbox getting a reset, but the whole gaming industry needs a reset. High console prices and now games probably gonna be $80 after GTA comes out.
Bloated budgets and long turnaround times also. COVID really messed up the gaming industry too.
Re: Sony Issues Statement Announcing 'Significant' Job Cuts At Bungie
@Fishmasterflex96 wink
Re: Sony Issues Statement Announcing 'Significant' Job Cuts At Bungie
@Banjo- it's a game pass problem, banjo. remember!
Re: Sony Issues Statement Announcing 'Significant' Job Cuts At Bungie
@dreadful I believe the amount of people getting laid off will be the same or more of a head count than double fine, ninja theory, and compulsion combined.
Sony having their own bloodbath it seems.
Re: Xbox Layoffs Seemingly Begin As Devs Reveal They're 'Open To Work'
@fatpunkslim yup. agree.
Re: Sony Issues Statement Announcing 'Significant' Job Cuts At Bungie
Well well well. Looks like the shoe is on the other foot this time. No faith in Sony whatsoever ...
Re: Round Up: The Previews Are In For Resonance: A Plague Tale Legacy
@Banjo- if this is slop, give it all to me!
Re: Xbox Game Pass Title To Be Spotlighted At THQ Nordic Showcase This August
game looks good, but will it BE good?
Re: GTA 6 Costs $80, Described As A 'Single-Player Experience'
$80 doesnt surprise me, nor deter me from buying, since i wasnt gonna buy anyway. Not that into GTA and my backlog will be quite large by mid November.
Gotta stock up on all those 3-6 month old games during the black Friday sale.
Re: Round Up: The Previews Are In For Resonance: A Plague Tale Legacy
cannot WAIT for this game. I will be partaking in game pass, of course.
Re: What Does A $1049 Steam Machine Mean For Xbox's Project Helix?
It means that, for what it is, its struggling to be as powerful as the base ps5/xsx at DOUBLE the price. You want a controller? Pay $80 more.
People "claimed" it would be a helix killer and shake up the console market but looks more like a super niche, overpriced piece of tech that'll be a wet fart rather than the monster it was supposed to be.
It was an intriguing proposition at a cheap price but for THIS price? No thanks, I'll get the 25th anniversary xbox and wait for the helix after.
Re: "The Catalogue Was Just Nowhere Near Good Enough" - Ori Creator Likens Xbox Game Pass To A "Slop Factory"
@Fishmasterflex96 i just dont know what the solution would be because i just dont think this is an xbox specific problem.
If ONLY xbox had a problem with game budgets and putting things out that takes years, or with lay offs and closures, and things of that nature then it would have to be accounted for, but the industry as a whole has so many issues (mainly due to costs) its hard to point the finger at 1 things.
Although that is kind of straying off toping because the article is about what this guy sees as slop and ive just seen so much great content for me its hard for me to agree with him.
I suppose with any service that has 400+ of anything for all different tastes there will be plenty of content that doesnt appeal to people, just part if having that much diversity and content on any movie/gaming/streaming service.
Re: "The Catalogue Was Just Nowhere Near Good Enough" - Ori Creator Likens Xbox Game Pass To A "Slop Factory"
@Fishmasterflex96 like @backlogbrad said though a lot of those arent "slop." Looking at the scores of a lot of the xbox games from the last few years they've scored well. Many in low to mid 80's, some higher, some lower.
Basically a lot of them score where a majority of publishers games score, if he's talking about 1st party that is. And Forza 6 just blew it out of the water.
For 3rd party Expedition 33 and some other 3rd party were awesome as hell, and now we got plague tale, persona 6, and gears and fable ect coming down the pipe? Im saving so much money on all these games i would have bout.
That to me is a stellar lineup and thank God i dont have to buy all those and can partake in game pass.
With budgets and hardware increasing ect i just hope the price of game pass doesn't slap us across the face again.
Re: "The Catalogue Was Just Nowhere Near Good Enough" - Ori Creator Likens Xbox Game Pass To A "Slop Factory"
@Fishmasterflex96 those aren't good enough with OR without game pass tho, thats the issue. If you dont like those games in game pass they werent gonna do much without it either and still be in deep trouble.
I LOVED south of midnight, avowed, hellblade 2, outer worlds 2 ect and now it sounds like everyone is just gonna focus on big budget, safe bet stuff.
Sadly we'll probably get fewer games a year now and similar experiences. I've gotten so much value and awesomeness from the games in game pass on my time with it ill be sad when it changes.
Re: "The Catalogue Was Just Nowhere Near Good Enough" - Ori Creator Likens Xbox Game Pass To A "Slop Factory"
@Fishmasterflex96 if you cant have a simple discussion online without going off the deep-end then i can't help you.
COD was taken off because when MS jacked the price up and released a terrible COD it didn't make business sense for that game. 99.9% of games aren't COD, so we can't put them under one umbrella. And nothing IS a one thing fix all, you're right, that's why we cant lump everything in with COD.
Hell, half the publishers in the industry say games "don't meet expectations." Look at Square-Enix, Sony, Embracer, EA, Ubisoft ect ect all having layoffs and closing studios here and there.
There is a much wider problem going on in this industry and ballooning prices (whether hardware, software, or subscriptions) are the issue plaguing all of us.