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@jordan1992 last I checked the little big planet dev was known before sony bought them. Stick with me

Plus Microsoft has to buy well-known ips to be able to complete with a company that’s been around a generation and a half before they came around. Sony and Nintendo established fan base doesn’t let others in (money is a key factor)

Competition is a good thing, but I feel like that’s what you guys are losing sigh of. It goes back to my comment about the PS3 versus the PS4 era and like of first party games new and old ips not including remakes or remasters

I’m a little lost in why this is a bad thing because call of duty is still coming out on PlayStation.

@jordan1992 when did I compare little big planet to cod?

You’re losing this argument so you making things up? Gotcha, or did you forget what we’re talking about? Little Big Planet being a AAA title, which it is

Sony has bought made studios

@EvenStephen7 true. Most of the ones were the good workers get laid off the company is usually going under. Do you really think Halo infinite was successful or well received? How do you feel marketings been for Microsoft?

It does suck. I can also tell you haven’t read all my comments.

@jordan1992 little big planet company still wasn’t owned by PlayStation, so your argument has no bearings. They were AAA studio before they were bought. Lol

@jordan1992 i’m lost by your statement here just because they were bought, They weren’t going to continue to grow and make better games? It doesn’t erase the fact that they were already making AAA games before they were bought bud.

And naughty dog made games for more than just Apple, they made web games, Sega games, and 3DO console before PlayStation

Also
Naughty Dog also has almost 40 years of experience versus somebody like 343 Industries who has maybe 15 years

@jordan1992 Crash during that time, was a AAA title. Lol

MMolecule studios little big planet before they were bought, that’s not a triple A title? Get out of here. They made a little big planet in 2008 before Sony bought them in 2010.

Plenty more examples if you want me to keep going

Sony didn’t make them AAA studios they made themselves AAA and then Sony bought them.

@bpomber dude you had a whole other paragraph for the start of your comment

You said

Microsoft's net worth is $1.7 trillion. They just spent $69 billion on the Activision/Blizzard deal. Yet they lay-off people who are just trying to scrape by.

Then you said

This is why I'll never understand why people (especially on this site) will spend so much effort shamelessly defending a corporation who doesn't care about you.

The first part, there’s a reason they got laid off they weren’t doing their job….. halo was not well received and marketing hasn’t been good. If you were scraping by, you think you’d try harder to keep your job.

Have fun gaming that’s what I’m doing

@bpomber I see you just ignored everything I said.

You’re hating on a company that you have no reason to hate on.

You were trying to argue about a company laying off employees that everyone agrees hasn’t been good.

@jordan1992 you guys act like naughty dog was a scrub company when Sony bought them

@Sam_TSM I don’t think anybody here is defending. In the long run GamePass will make Microsoft a ton of money, but saves to consumers money (I mean the pure gamers on their end). It’s a win-win for both.

Sony charges you 70 bucks for a game then charges you another 10 just to be able to play online. Microsoft, you can do the 60 bucks and then get charged 10 or you can do the $15 for game pass ultimate with day one exclusives

Sony releases two exclusives from their first party on average a year and they roughly sell about 10 million copies each. Last report of subscribers for game pass ultimate was 25 million. Then because of a game you normally wouldn’t buy you’re also buying add-ons because you’re not spending as much on games which Microsoft gets a bigger profit on add-ons so does Sony. Do the math. Microsoft is raking in the money.

Problem they’re losing the bigger AAA from other companies that don’t want to use GamePass, which in turn is hurting them because they don’t have the IP‘s, their an American company with not a lot of console sales so most developers don’t even want to build for them, and they don’t have 30+ old franchises that are greatly loved, like Mario, twisted metal, so on and so on.

But it’s very smart and good business. If you get a job there be good because they’re going to be around for a long time.

Plus, the caveat is games like Minecraft and call of duty release on all platforms. Then you have your other exclusives that push you towards your Console. Which Microsoft still doesn’t technically have the IP‘s, that’s one of the reasons they’re last in consoles.

i’m looking at this from a consumers point. wouldn’t you love to have PlayStation plus day one Sony exclusives?

@bpomber you don’t have a point and I’m not defending. I’m stating facts on an Xbox website.

You sound like a disgruntled employee, about your own company you work for, and feel like the world and that company owes you. Save your money and be better.

I’m a manager, the world is rough right now, has long as you are good at your job you’re irreplaceable and trust me companies know that.

If you get fired or let go in a successful company, it’s you and you need to look in the mirror. You not as good as you think you are, it could be anything from your work ethic, attendance, and or your attitude

@bpomber if you get let go by a successful business, there’s a reason

I’m looking at 343 industries and Halo

Marketing

@bpomber but if you said you know why they do it, then why attack these companies when you know that it’s a business thing?

In order for a business to stay around they have to trim fat. buying or investing other companies that is already proven successful will help you even more with your success.

they got a great severance package the ex-employees.

@bpomber So why did you even make a comment, when you should know it’s just business and all businesses do this, especially successful businesses?

I brought up Sony for comparison since they’re in the same field. It would be weird for me to compare RoomsToGo to Microsoft

@bpomber

it’s a business. If they just pay for dead weight they’ll eventually go out of business. Plus they have millions of employees to take care of.

Halo was a let down, time to trim. If you think Sony doesn’t or hasn’t ever, you’re crazy. Zipper, incognito, and many others. Plus that doesn’t include the film companies Sony has closed

@WallyWest it was six!!! Six years not three. Microsoft was extending the deal by 3 years, 6 years was the total.

If you can’t see that Sony is a monopoly in the gaming industry, I don’t know what’s wrong with you.

Sony has already increased their prices in games, Sony wanted them to be $80 not &70 but the rest of the industry said it would kill the Indy games. Sony already said they’re making a profit in console last year, they put a cheaper heat sink in, months later, they put an even cheaper heat sink in not making the console cheaper but actually increasing the price, but you don’t see the monopoly?

Plus, Microsoft has bought studios before and kept their games on other consoles without any impact in content, quality, or pricing, hence Minecraft.

@jordan1992 Sony started at a different time. Sony is way developed before Microsoft even came along. You can’t compare the two.

Sony was already developed monopoly before Microsoft even started.

Developers aren’t doing well. That’s why when one closes two more open, you gotta have that instant hit.

Xbox has IPs but the original developers are gone. You can’t just tell developers to start working on this ip, there never as good as the original dev. Example Halo and PlayStation side Socom- the game was not the same.

Plus isn’t Sony buying devs? You’re not complaining about them buying developers and they’ve closed down a bunch of devs Zipper Interactive, Incognito, and many more.

Sony fanboys are such hypocrites

I like the buying of developers on all sides. It makes better competition and better games. The PS3 era was night and day better than PS4. 360 made Sony compete, think about how many new and old Sony ips came out on the PS3 compared to the PS4. Do not count remakes or remastered titles

@Somebody I 99% agree but I would actually sell it to Amazon because Amazon only makes PC games.

@mousieone what’s really funny is, that in order for call of duty to be what it is, It Has to stay multi platform. If I was Microsoft, I would say that a perfect example of us keeping games multi platform Minecraft. It’s consistent on everything.

Microsoft could’ve easily made Minecraft exclusive, but it would get rid of why Minecraft is as big as it is.

And the regulators definition of a monopoly Sony‘s already done every single one of them matter fact they wanted video games to go up to 80 bucks not just 70. Sony has already announced that they’re making profit on their consoles and shortly after that, they announced that they were putting in a cheaper heatsink. then a few months later they announce they’re putting in an even more cheaper heat sink.

@Rmg0731 most of the developers that Microsoft owns is way smaller than Sony‘s. It takes roughly 300 to 400 developers to make a AAA title within two years.

within two years Microsoft is actually released a ton of their first party titles. It’s just the majority of Microsoft games are multi platform, because Microsoft is friendlier with their IP’s than Sony. Two of the IP’s were already in agreement with Sony.

Minecraft dungeons, Psychonauts 2, Deathloop, ghost wire, Minecraft legends, Microsoft flight simulator, the big expansions for elder scrolls online, expansions to fallout 76, expansion to two worlds, NexGen upgrade to Skyrim, and more

Sony owns five studios that are 400 and more developers within one studio. Bungie is between 800 and 900

Microsoft has one studio around 400. Correction they laid people off, it’s smaller now.

@Chaudy Sony was forcing developers to work together to do remakes, which take less time to make

Microsoft is working on new games not remakes. Plus a lot of Bethesda’s games had contracts with Sony.

@Chaudy not really, Microsoft lost almost all their developers. Having other companies work on others IP’s isn’t always a good thing: Sony’s Socom series and Microsoft’s Halo are good examples

@LX_FENIX Bethesda and Activision sold to them, they wanted to sale. I like how a lot of people act like Microsoft is doing hostile takeovers.

If this was Sony everyone would be okay with it. Sony didn’t make Naughty Dog studio, they bought them.

@somnambulance Sony did build there portfolio and they bought there’s too. Naughty Dog was bought bud.

There’s also been a pandemic that hasn’t happened during PS reign. PS is in the same boat of first party studios being behind.

Microsoft is doing what every console company has done, buy developers. This includes Sega. Activision came to them wanting to sale. So did Bethesda.

@somnambulance the unreal, are you reading my comments? Microsoft 2 years ago only owned 5 studios. Microsoft’s Xbox One was not selling good, so not a lot of companies wanted to take a risk of making an exclusive for them.

Because of the pandemic every studio is behind. Sony paid money for timed exclusives, Sony is making multiple studios work on the same remake games (naughty dog, and Sony been on the last of us part one remake).

Microsoft is honoring existing contract with Sony

@somnambulance DeathLoop and GhostWire is from Bethesda studios, so yes they are pumping out games. I think people have unrealistic expectations. Before the pandemic Microsoft only had 5 studios. All these studios we’re working on multi platform or year exclusive before the buying of studios

@Dezzy70 rainbow six siege is probably a closer example, but they didn’t even have a campaign

@Dezzy70 I agree bro, but look up other live services like destiny and the division. When they first started out they were awful, and overtime They got better and those games didn’t come out during the pandemic like Halo

@somnambulance that’s asking a lot, considering that most of those studios that they purchase are small, Activision buy hasn’t gone through yet.

@Dezzy70 MMC? Plus Halo Infinite was their first open world, live service game, and the game is supposed to last for the next 10 years

@Dezzy70 it doesn’t negate the fact that games take a while to make. Those companies just made those games a year ago so they’re still working on whatever new stuff they’re working on.

So it takes a while for Xbox to pump out games

You think the activision merger Xbox will instantly pump out exclusives?

All studios are behind making games. that’s why 90% of PlayStation exclusives are remakes, there easier to make and have multiple first party studios making one game

@Dezzy70 contracts my good sir. So is Ghostwire

@Dezzy70 DeathLoop came out today and it’s first party

DeathLoop came out today and it’s first party

They said Nine games, 12 are listed.

@InterceptorAlpha

HellBlade franchise and studio is 1st party bud

@mus422 Microsoft owns the rights and the company that made it.

The company that made it change its name the the guys that made HellBlade and Bleeding Edge

@UltimateOtaku91 Apple would not be good because they could make you go through their Apple Arcade and force you to have an IOS device to play on. Amazon has only done PC games so far.

Odds don’t look to good for console gamers

@SacredPYRO Thank You

@UltimateOtaku91 if you agree that you like competition, then why bring up the word acquisition and Bethesda?

@UltimateOtaku91 The loophole is Sony doesn't see the profit, because of PS Now. Jim Ryan doesn't realize you need more fresh games, day one, hard downloadable games, and third party companies.

Phil see this thats why xbox is rolling in the dough. 28-30 million subscribers x $15 some are doing deals and paying less × 12 months is $5,400,000,000.00

@UltimateOtaku91 If gamepass, Playstation Now, and Nintendo's thing was on everything, its a win win for all three companies (subscribers).

@UltimateOtaku91 Yeah and Sony people would need an Xbox account. Thats why Phil said who the better service.

How do you guys not see the money in this?

@UltimateOtaku91 Bethesda games help make microsoft subscription more appealing

@UltimateOtaku91 more subscribers equals more money

@UltimateOtaku91 Phil wants to bring gamepass to Sony Playstation, he said it on more then one occasion. Sony doesn't want it.

Phil wants to compete by who offers the better service; Xbox Live, PSPlus, or Nintendo online. He has said this on more then one occasion.

Phil even said he would love to see Nintendo pass and Sony pass on xbox, and game pass on others

I have yet to see where Phil has lied.

Why aren't you guys complaining about Sony buying studios?

Nintendo is/was the closest at playing together.

Wanna get mad, get mad at Sony

Still no day 1 games and its only Streaming from what ive been reading and hearing.

Microsoft still winning

It's going to be good, realistically it should be around 80-89. BUT Sony people that haven't played it will destroy it because other platforms aren't allowed to have good Exclusives

Almost all the N64 games, Smackdown 2 Know Your Role, and Smackdown Here Comes The Pain was amazing.