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@dreadful gyro, I could careless about. There is very few games that actually make good use of this, in my opinion.

I like the idea of a speaker and mute button on the controller it’s self. Plus analog swap outs like the PS5 edge controller.

Why do people think that it’s fun to cheat

@GuyinPA75 I would love that, but Halloween (Michael Myers) is the safer bet

I mean from gameplay

@NishimuraX I ain’t gonna report you about anything. Believe it or not we’re having an adult conversation. No I’m not a fan of the console wars. I do believe that Sony has their positive. Microsoft has their positives. Sony has their negatives. Microsoft has their negatives.

But I do find it hard to believe that you don’t see that these sites are biased for one console. Matter of fact when it’s a high profile game that’s announced. It’s new high profile IP, on push square It’ll list the consoles that it’s coming out on and it never brings up Xbox. But on pure Xbox, they make sure to notate that it’s also coming out on PlayStation for the same game.

Then they talk about marathon, not being charged a AAA normal price for a header on push square. But on pure Xbox It says marathon won’t be free on Xbox.

Back to the required online and games not being fully installed on the discs. If you can find it, Sony was actually the big advocate for getting rid of discs. Sony is also one of the big three publishers (2K and Ubisoft) that’s trying to push for base games to cost $80 and up here recently before these new consoles released (PS5 and Series s and x)

Microsoft and EA of all publishers was against the $80 price tag for base games being set as the standard

@NishimuraX so if you understand that that’s been their main push, which if you actually do some research, Sony was actually the first person to push for this. It backfired. Why you get upset about it?

Also, my original argument is this website and sister sit pushsquare is biased towards one over the other.

Plus, did you read my thing about the game marathon?

This was my original post

bro! This is not true about all Sony fans thinking this. One push square in the forms there’s literally people saying that Sony Nintendo do the same thing.
You’re trying to make it a big deal and it’s not.
You do know as consumers we need Xbox and PlayStation to keep fighting it out to keep prices competitive and low
When did they announce marathon was free on other platforms?
Your title implies that only Xbox is getting charged.
Your sister site pushsquare made comments about Microsoft Indiana Jones hurting PlayStation on physical release, when Nintendo and Sony do the same thing with online required titles and saves.
Comes off like there’s an agenda.

@NishimuraX true that you don’t have to like it, but don’t write hot take articles Sony good Microsoft bad when they’re doing the same thing.

Ben the guy that wrote the articles is the one that I was originally writing to, but there’s another article where push square different than pure Xbox

@NishimuraX your Zelda comment contradicts the guys statement above. So, one of you is lying.

You’re crazy if you don’t believe companies save money going digital over physical copies and that not all want to go full digital.

If you read comments I made earlier, I said they still make physical copies of movies. But nowhere near the masses they used to.

Wish it had an elite version

@carlos82 I concur. I think It cost less to do it the way they’re doing it. Obviously, if they could, they would prefer everybody go straight digital.

Like I said for a developer not including Microsoft, it does cost

@carlos82 Good! I’m not looking for an argument with you. My thing is we all know that Microsoft is like this and has been pushing this for a long time. So has other companies. The benefit of the companies/Studio/Developer is crazy good.

I don’t like that pushsquare and pureXbox has a clear bias towards one.

We as consumers need both. People with the lack of common sense say we need only one.

We need all three to be successful and competitive. (Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft). We need Microsoft to stay in the console market.

@carlos82 you guys can beat around it all you want, but if you actually do some research, it’s been an interviews by Sony CEOs that they want to get away from discs. Why do you think they only have a digital console?

We know why they have discs consoles. Consumer still want discs. They don’t because it cost effective in competitive

@carlos82 OK try it with all the legend of Zelda games

Seriously delete them make sure your console isn’t hooked up to the Internet and try playing those games without it.

You have to have that first initial install with the Internet

@carlos82 so you can play NBA 2K without getting online and downloading anything?

Without any saves or any downloads. If you have that game, uninstall it, restart it without hooking up to the Internet and try playing the game without it.

@NishimuraX Okay

@carlos82 that’s why the movie industry got away from releasing physical copies.

Plus, trade-ins - resale, people borrowing, devs and studios lose out on all that potential profit

@carlos82 Nintendo is definitely 100% not true. Look up the switch games. lol

PlayStation does have online only games and yes, they have games that are not all on disc.

Plus, why is this a shock to anybody? Microsoft has been advocating for this for a long time. If you do some research, so has Sony.

All devs would love to get rid of physical copies. It saves a ton of cost on discs, art covering and paper, the box case, and paying the people that work on those.

@InterceptorAlpha I didn’t say all of PlayStation titles, but yes, some of Sony’s titles do.

But I think you’re missing the point of my argument.

What I’m saying is these websites make it sound like Sony good Microsoft bad.

They both do the same thing. Nobody brings up the fact that Sony literally was an advocate of getting rid of physical copy games. The Sony community fought back and Sony had to change their game plan. This was the beginning of the PS3 era when Sony tried this

@NishimuraX once again you are correct on that, It was used in the past. Problem is games cost more now and companies can’t afford that loss. They would rather sell all their titles new, not preowned because they don’t gain any money from preowned titles or titles that you’re letting other people borrow that you bought New.

You’re missing the point. Point is they don’t wanna sell you a full-fledged game that you can let somebody else borrow or resell. For Dev this is really smart.

@Fiddleroyolanda I’ll have time to look it up, but there are some single player titles that Sony’s done also.

Do the research. They’re all trying to get away from physical copies.

Cuts cost. If you notice movies copy’s are almost nonexistent.

@NishimuraX but you said no, sir that’s not true when it is.

Matter fact, it was a long time ago, but Sony has tried to get rid of physical games in the past. They fail because they’re consumers prefer the physical and they switched consoles when they announced that. that was during the PS3 Xbox 360 era

@Fiddleroyolanda bro yes they do. You need to go look up some of their only online titles.

@NishimuraX I didn’t say anything about pirated, and the studios are the ones that said this information not me.

When Best Buy GameStop do resales, it hurts the devs because they don’t gain money from that

@NishimuraX because of people trading selling or letting their friends borrow the title hurts Devs from their money.

More and more Studios keep closing

@Kezelpaso bro! This is not true about all Sony fans thinking this. One push square in the forms there’s literally people saying that Sony Nintendo do the same thing.

You’re trying to make it a big deal and it’s not.

You do know as consumers we need Xbox and PlayStation to keep fighting it out to keep prices competitive and low

When did they announce marathon was free on other platforms?

Your title implies that only Xbox is getting charged.
Your sister site pushsquare made comments about Microsoft Indiana Jones hurting PlayStation on physical release, when Nintendo and Sony do the same thing with online required titles and saves.

Comes off like there’s an agenda.

@Kezelpaso When did they announce it was free on other platforms?

Your title implies that only Xbox is getting charged.

Your sister site pushsquare made comments about Microsoft Indiana Jones hurting PlayStation on physical release, when Nintendo and Sony do the same thing with online required titles and saves.

Comes off like there’s an agenda.

@DalamarX you said, “ Game consoles - affordability and ease of use. That has been and always will be the key to their success.”

I 100% agree. Now what if you could still make a console that continues to do that, but make it all upgradable for wannabe PC players that can’t afford a PC up front? We already established a PS five and Xbox series X is roughly $800-$1000 to make a PC.

Slap windows on it and all these other store fronts. And using Game Pass to catalyst consumers our way.

I think this is all possible

@Ilyn you’re just talking about the ssd. I’m talking about the graphics card, ram, gpu, and more.

Microsoft Nintendo and Sony already take a lost on there consoles when they first come out. Look it up, it takes anywhere from $800 - $1000 to build a PC equivalent to PS5 and Xbox Series X.

Now with what Microsoft has been advertising it would make sense to make a PC with windows and OS Xbox in a PC size case. Which rumors are claiming a lot of it. Which there rumors we don’t know if it’s true.

It would pull a lot of people over to the Xbox ecosystem and Gamepass. While all that’s happening integrated it with Steam, Nivida Stream, and Epic store people will still come to Xbox Game Pass to test and try while getting use to the controller people will most likely buy DLC through Microsoft Store, pulling some from Steam and others

This is all a theory.

@DalamarX bro I get your point. But I don’t think you’re getting mine so it’d be like a traditional console spec wise with the next gen upgrade.

But according to rumors, it’ll also be PC friendly to upgrade just like a PC using actual PC parts. So essentially it’ll be a great easy friendly to access entry level to PC. But it’ll be Xbox operating system/HDMI friendly.

You do get what I’m saying, right? It won’t matter if you wanna upgrade or not the option will be there.

A $500 console/PC is easier to pay for than a starting PC roughly around $1000.

To build a PC that is capable of doing with the PS five and Xbox series X can do is $800 - $1000

@DalamarX no what I meant is when the Xbox next GEN comes out the parts that they put in the system would be what they would do and then if you want to upgrade your hundred percent correct that would be based on what consumers willing to spend to upgrade the next gen console.

So the baseline of specs that Microsoft puts in they could take the lost, which we all know that they do and have always done, so has Sony since the original PlayStation

@Fiendish-Beaver I hope you know I mean by PC I don’t mean going all out and making something crazy. I mean the traditional upgrades from next GEN to next GEN but allowing you to upgrade parts inside like a PC.

making it to where you wouldn’t have to buy a next gen console in seven years you can just upgrade

@Fiendish-Beaver no I wasn’t trying to imply that you’re biased towards one console or the other. And yes, I did read and see the comments about they were hoping to get 100 million subscribers.

But them going multiplat will cover whatever losses they have and then some. I think we both can agree with the cost of games going up and tariff trades going on, I think it’s downplayed of the possibility of potential new subscribers for Game Pass alone could and will bring in money.

With that being said, I do see Microsoft acquiring more publishers/developers. Well, I do think that this is bad. I do think there is a bigger upside to Microsoft purchasing. Especially with them going multi platform. To me the pros out way the cons.

By the way, I am also a multi platform owner.

@Fiendish-Beaver I’m reading a response to Kaloudz. I think you’re stuck at looking at this from a console wars back in the day.

I think Microsoft is trying to look into the future where you can play any game you want on the platform you prefer with your friends. You can then stay in the ecosystem you like.

This is a win for everyone, even the corporations.

Then Microsoft, steam, PlayStation, Nintendo, and others can fight over who can provide the best features.

@Fiendish-Beaver you sir are 100% correct on the 30% that Sony gets. Sony also gets a cut on DLC.

Look at sea of thieves, came out how many years ago. Think about how much money Microsoft made off of sea of thieves alone from Sony only consumers, that’s not including DLC.

Them being able to do that with next GEN is very possible. Thanks to go on multi plat.

Also, I’m reading a response to Frasier, I think you underestimate the power you can get with everybody subscribing in your ecosystem, hence game pass.

Plus, DLC like Warzone, which is extremely popular is going to supply you with a ton of revenue, even if it’s being bought on another system.

You can then use that money to allow you to cut cost in building a console and make it cheaper for consumers bringing people over or subscribing to Game Pass

If they take the full dive in and go full PC with their next console, I think they could sell a lot consoles.

Specially, if you can upgrade it like a normal PC. Me personally, I would use the money that I’m making off of PlayStation owners to make my console cheaper price than the competition.

Continue to ride game pass, incorporates steam and epic’s store to the console.

I think this could help push Sony to multi platform. Before anybody says anything yes I know Sony doesn’t necessarily need to do this. But this would help the company the brand, consumers, and IP out as a whole

Gears of War, Sea of Thieves, Fable, Blood Wake, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Halo (Done right), and Brute Force

I still want the disc drive

@Kaloudz I can’t wait to see State of Decay 3. I’m actually hoping they push multiplayer to a MMO PvPvE style while keeping the single player game style there.

I love multiplayer games. Gears of War ED I’m also excited for

Yes, they need to release one in 2026. If they want what I think their plan is, that’s the year they need to release it.

For Microsoft strategy, it makes the most sense

The Division makes the most sense to me

@Valhura I 100% agree. It’s been out long enough, let’s bring this to gamepass for a month to tryout.

@Trmn8r no cause Phil Spencer and somebody else from Activision talks about this black ops is gonna be more of what modern warfare 3 was to modern warfare 2. Kind of a glorified DLC.

It’s supposed to be Sledgehammer or Infinity Ward is doing the 2026 call of duty that’s supposed to be the first of the two year cycle.

There will still be a call of duty every year. It’ll just trade off between Treyarch sledgehammer and infinity Ward.

Raven software will still do Warzone

@Trmn8r They are! The interview you saw and or article about the interview showed and said it would start from the 2026 COD going forward.

@Th3_Highlander I don’t see anybody really responding to you but I have 100% agree with you about Sony raising their prices if Microsoft wasn’t around. Plus you’re right about the $700 pro.

I don’t know how more people don’t see that it is important that Microsoft stick around with Sony and Nintendo to keep them modest.

I do think that they’re not paying fully attention about the console exclusives titles, because right now it sounds like everything‘s gonna be on Nintendo‘s console with the possibility of game pass.

If everybody on Sony and Microsoft side would see the potential benefit of releasing all titles multiplatform plus the big picture on how it would be beneficial for the consumers.

I see this as a very good thing. With prices going up and the tariff tax going up.

Microsoft will most likely be able to keep console prices lower than the competition because of the extra revenue from bring first party games to other platforms.

Video Games are rumored to bump up in price with GTA6 leading the pack with the base game $100. Gamepass on Xbox console with game share is looking really wallet friendly.

I think Microsoft is being extremely smart and Sony will be forced to follow suit with a similar strategy

I would love for Microsoft to buy Ubisoft. I could only imagine what all the help from other studios how Division 3 would turn out. Plus with Microsoft becoming multiplatform all Ubisofts games on game pass is a win for gamers

@Kilamanjaro I agree and heard him say that, but they have yet to talk about console exclusivity versus other consoles.

Problem is people don’t realize that you need multiple consoles in the market to keep one or the other forming a monopoly. Sony has shown that they are a monopoly in the console market.

If Microsoft was a monopoly, they would be doing the same thing, you need both.

Nintendo is playing there own game in the market.

@TeiGekiLord No, I think Tango and Microsoft break up was not good. The head creator of tango left way before the studio was shut down. There was a new lead of the studio. Yes I think there was bad blood.

Did not blame Sony. I was saying FTC. The Sony thing would favor FTC and allow them to reopen to make Microsoft sale Activision.

This is just my opinion, so relax. I’m not saying this is the gospel. That’s why I said I think

@FraserG I think more people would be on board if Microsoft would be straight forward on where the company is going and what they are doing.

I think Tango Software didn’t want to be apart of Microsoft, and was very disgruntle. So, Microsoft had no choice but to close the studio down.

I think Toys For Bob was very reasonable but didn’t share the vision of Microsoft. The people there running TFB looked older and only wanted to make their own games.

I think that Microsoft has been releasing multi platform to keep the FTC off their back. Sony has not been the best about releasing their first party Studios and they’ve been closing down studios left and right. Which Sony has been crying that the merger would hurt them.

The fact that they didn’t have any first party, Studios, I think that’s why Microsoft released some of their titles on the PlayStation.

I just wish Microsoft would come out and say these games are staying exclusive to the Xbox ecosystem.

I really think the Bethesda acquisition those titles should remain exclusive.

I love this article and wish PureXbox would do this article a little more frequently and or fined a way to pin it at the top and update it periodically

@Ricky-Spanish @Kezelpaso I love Gears of War.

I’m going to say something most probably will not agree with me on but I think if done right a Gears of War Battle Royale would be amazing!