@Banjo- I don't deny that that's a thing from fanatics and not the majority but does it mean you have to do the same and sink to that? Just be better and let it go. I'm primarily a PlayStation user myself and I see ridiculous comments all the time everywhere on all sides.
Do I agree with shady practices, timed stuff and consolidation? Absolutely not. But it happens and there's nothing anyone can do about it. The ABK deal will do damage one way or another because there will always be someone who loses out somewhere regardless. Just as if Sony or Nintendo do and will partake in such things. The consumer is the one who loses.
That being said there's no point anyone going around with hatred or negativity in your mind all the time. And as someone who suffers from mental health, believe me it does you no good.
And Square have insinuated and commented from what I've heard whispered around the internet is that they don't like the GamePass business model. But the go to for everyone is to blame Sony when it's (according to what I've heard) they have nothing to do with it according to Square themselves.
And if it was all Sony's doing then games wouldn't be coming out on Nintendo exclusively too and Nintendo don't pay for exclusives.
Pretty obvious they stick mostly to their Japanese friends. (And yes PlayStation is still primarily a Japanese subsidiary since Sony HQ still is based in Tokyo)
It's simple, they avoid Xbox with a lot of their releases. Minus the few releases that Phil paid a lot for supposedly. But let's all blame Sony because they live rent free around here.
@theduckofdeath
Phil Spencer's exact words prior to the Bethesda acquisition was "Bethesda games will release on rival consoles on a case by case basis" then when the ink had dried it was "Bethesda games will release where GamePass exists" he lied about "rivaling consoles since PlayStation and Switch are consoles without GamePass.
And Sony gets third party exclusives? Yeah very little. What about GamePass with an average of 300 games on it at one time with 90% being third party? Can't make those kind of excuses.
As for Starfield and such those games were in development long before aquisitions but still all been delayed.
And what about the so called "initiative?" The world's first AAAA studio according to Phil dreamt up in 2016? Where are they and these supposed AAAA games?
@HKK24 Phil Spencer has been the head of Xbox for 10 years now so people can't use the excuse of "he's fixing the mess". Say what you want about Don Mattrick but atleast there were great games during his tenure. I still feel very underwhelmed by the Xbox One generation and this one is so far not feeling any better.
@theduckofdeath
Phil Spencer is the head of Xbox and makes the decisions and has mismanaged it for the last couple of years. He should be held accountable for the lack of games despite for several years of false promises of "we've got things coming" only to deliver the same message each year yet people blindly defend him. Like you're doing here.
Do you think he's just a figurehead and not directly involved?
And you mention Sony? The go to excuse or comparison around here. Third party games? Yeah Xbox has them too so no excuse. Where are the first parties promised for years now? Atleast Sony has released several this generation while Xbox has been practically absent. Again.
And yeah, the FTC may file a complaint but that doesn't excuse the fact that Phil Spencer lied about Bethesda which is one of the reasons for the scrutiny.
If anything this makes them look worse to the regulators. Buying up studios and publishers with nothing to show just shows the total mismanagement happening at Xbox for quite some time.
So far for this generation Xbox has failed to wow or entice me with their console/ecosystem.
Increasing game prices to match Sony and other publisher's/developers with absolutely nothing to show? When are people going to see through Phil Spencer and hold him accountable and stop treating him like some kind of messiah of gaming?
Also, eerie how the article regarding Phil lying to the regulators about the Bethesda buyout is absent from this site.....
@Dezzy70 The reason all games on one console would be a bad idea is because there's be no console competitor. We've seen time and again how platform holders push their limits to see what they'd get away with. Like upgrade fees or online access double price increases. it's the outcry from gamers that force decisions to reverse but without competition why would they listen? Where else would console players go to get their games? There's no threat for the platform holders so they'd take the p**s.
@Snake_V5 Because Sony is the console publisher for the game and 505 is the PC publisher for the game. Sony decides where the console release goes but not the PC release despite it being a first party IP and owning the engine in which it was built.
@Titntin Out of interest, got any good sources? I'm tired of these dedicated sites too, it's come to a point where the news is little or irrelevant and a lot of commentors are aggressive.
I stopped visiting IGN years ago and eurogamer, they all became unbearable to communicate with. And Reddit and Twitter, even worse.
@JaaackTommm
Well about 50% of this website is a "we hate Sony" cult. Barely a post goes by where they or PlayStation isn't mentioned somewhere. And the writers love to fan the flames and fuel them. It gets them clicks.
@dsar9012
I'm not a PS fanboy but this is exactly what I'm talking about, the assumption followed by a toxic comment. Thanks for proving my point.
And FYI there were tons of people trolling and gloating after the publisher buyouts and there were people here specifically saying they were going to PS websites and forums to do exactly that.
Wow. So many toxic comments here towards PlayStation fans who have done nothing to you. This entire thread turned into a "we hate PlayStation and their fans" thread. You call them toxic and obnoxious but look at your own hypocritical comments. It literally makes you no better. You all say they celebrate when they get an exclusive when you all literally do the same. Remember your toxic comments when Microsoft bought Bethesda and Activision? Remember when people here went to PushSquare to troll them and 'revel in their misery'? (Yes that was the first comment here). I see comments here very often saying 'we want this exclusive, we want that exclusive. Microsoft should buy this company and that company'. Why? What does it do other than take games away from other people when you're moaning about the same thing here which isn't the fans fault. Do you see the hypocrisy?
You're all trying to say they're celebrating that the remake isn't on Xbox when the comments regarding this on PushSquare, atleast a majority, aren't even talking about Xbox at all if you bother to check your facts. The salt here is ridiculous and they're living rent free in your heads.
All you've all done is constantly bash them here while claiming they are toxic. Read you're own comments and evaluate who is actually being the most toxic fans right now. Because it isn't them.
@Chaudy Perhaps it's not ready. But like I said there's been a lot of talk and achievements apparently showing up? There's no way it doesn't exist if there are registered achievements.
@mousieone Well, I do t know the answer to that, maybe because it's a very well known series. Interestingly in relation to your list Octopath Traveller isn't on PlayStation despite Sony seemingly being very friendly with Square Enix. Why is that I wonder? Quite curious.
@Chaudy To my knowledge the multiplatform status of Indiana Jones is a rumour and the port of the upcoming Goldeneye game is said to be an Xbox exclusive and has been talked about here for weeks.
Amazon own James Bond and therefore control anything related to it. Exclusivity to Xbox is looking like it's paid for.
I'm in the minority but I was left very unimpressed by Starfield. Another case of overhyped for me I think.
I was very surprised to see Persona, never in a million years would I have believed it, speaking primarily as a PlayStation guy that blew my mind.
And since there was no mention of FF7R I now strongly believe if it hasn't been announced already at what was supposed to be the biggest showcase of the year while the next installment feels eerily close to being announced I don't think it will come to Xbox.
I'd say there isn't really anything yet that has convinced me to pick up a Series X, because I don't have one yet but have considered it due to Sony's recent alarming and annoying decisions and the state of play in my opinion being terrible.
It just felt like a "hey, look how many games we're giving to PC" show and nothing that felt reassuring for the near future of the PS5. My opinion of course. I think it's pretty meh all around at the moment, with the exception of God of War and Hogwarts Legacy there really isn't anything (with an actual release date) I'm looking forward to.
@UltimateOtaku91
Ah, but they will though. When KotOR comes along as a timed exclusive everyone here will conveniently forget about this. And what about Goldeneye and Octopath traveller? Those aren't first party games but strangely there is no mention of them for PlayStation while Goldeneye in particular is being heavily advertised and marketed for Xbox. And what about Indiana Jones?
That's what I cant stand, the hypocrisy.
As for Phil I can't understand why so many people cant see past his obvious hypocrisy. He does it all the time.
It seems highly likely that Microsoft have paid for some kind of exclusivity here, whether it be timed or otherwise. There's just no way Atlus would port these games to Xbox first over PlayStation otherwise. And to Nintendo for that matter.
What gets me though is everyone here is still outraged over FF7R and such but will no doubt say nothing when Microsoft is seemingly paying to secure exclusivity of third party franchises.
Despite Phil's comment of "we don't want to take games away from other platforms".
I've got the games already myself, P4G on PSVita and PC, P5/R on PS4 and P3fes on PS2. But Sony have massively been dropping the ball since the PS5 launch.
@NEStalgia True, P4G remaster never came to a PS home console and that's been.. nearly 2 years? More? Can't remember.
Persona 5 base game recently got taken down from the PS+ Collection so my guess is it's getting a PC port to Steam.
FF7R might come to Xbox but I have my doubts, I'll be surprised if it does. It could even be an indication that FF7R Part2 is pending an announcement with their State of Play coming up.
Wouldn't get your hopes up. God of War got taken off the list too following it's PC release and that's a first party game. And since FF7R is on EGS it's probably for that reason, or a Steam release.
And it's highly unlikely Persona will appear on Xbox. P4G was remastered with no appearance on an Xbox platform, 5 probably isn't coming. PC release at best.
@BAMozzy But again, someone still loses out regardless of how many platforms they release on and when, that's the very core of the issue. And I don't mean to offend when I say this as it is nothing against you personally but people try to use those examples to justify exclusivity when at its core it's all the same in one way or another. Someone somewhere missing out.
And all the examples you gave about 'blocking' Microsoft points only to first parties.
Indiana Jones in this example isn't a first party game and coming back to my original point is people here are complaining that a third party IP should be exclusive when also complaining about the exact same situation with FF7 shouldn't be on PlayStation. (To which I agree) it's just how these people are being hypocrites is my main annoyance in this case. Exclusives are going to happen but when KotOR launches as a timed exclusive I can guarantee all these same people will be outraged conveniently forgetting what they said here.
@BAMozzy
Whether it's a larger ecosystem or not someone somewhere is being excluded and at its core that's no different any way you look at it, whether it's one system or several people still miss out.
But that's not the point I'm making here, the point I'm making is the hypocrisy from the community. People here and Xbox community in general (and the PS community, not singleing anyone out) complained for an entire generation that exclusives are anti-consumer and need to stop. However when it's in their favour they're all for it while still complaining about such things as FF7 and Spider-Man etc. That's what annoys me, not the concept itself but the double standards.
Those games I mentioned are all third party IP's yet people here are in favour of wanting them only on Xbox and complaining when they don't get something. You can't have it both ways.
Would I like to see an end to exclusivity? Absolutely but it's not going to happen.
What is also annoying is how so many gamers now mention about how much money a corporation has. When did we start caring more about how much money fat suits have in their bank accounts and less about actual games. And the excuse isn't because that provides better games because that isn't always true. Indies have proven that even with less money and income than a huge corporation they can make games that absolutely blow AAA's out of the water.
For the sake of platform warriors so many have forgotten what's important and only care about 'my corporation and logo must have everything and their corporation and logo must have nothing.'
Microsoft may allow games on Steam and mobile but that doesn't take away from the fact that other platforms miss out and in the end while Sony has less platforms to release on both are no different towards the practice. And if gamers don't like it or agree to it, then don't cheer for one and proclaim the other as evil in the same breath. Especially for timed or third parties. Which is exactly what many are doing right here right now. That's the core of what I'm saying.
Btw, PlayStation doesn't put 'Only on PlayStation' on their physical boxes anymore. They stopped doing that after they started porting games to PC. Even the new Horizon and GT7 don't have it on there.
Unbelievable. Throughout almost the entire last gen most people here and Phil himself said "exclusives are anti-consumer". Now it's the best thing ever and "about selling consoles." When folks say console sales don't matter to Xbox anymore.
Look, I don't care. But even if it's timed no one here seems to see a problem with a licenced third party IP being either exclusive or timed to Xbox yet non-stop complain about FF7R, Spider-Man and KotOR. Hypocrisy at its finest.
@NotoriousWhiz
Just makes me wonder if there was a way to do it without their approval. Just simply access the person's PSN ID and let the Xbox server determine what you've completed. Some websites like Ubisoft allowed you to 'link' platform ID's to their services for points and stuff.
Wishful thinking that it could happen because I put a lot of effort into my trophies. Wouldn't want to start again if I could help it. I'd definitely switch if Phil could figure it out somehow.
How does one request features? One I would like to see is the ability to convert my PlayStation trophies into their equivalent Xbox achievements for my completed games onto my account (minus the platinum ofc). I have 109 Platinums and wouldn't like to go through that again.
If for that I'd give Sony the boot and but a Series X. They're in stock right now at my favourite online retailer and given the insanity of their greedy service launch I'm so tempted to do it. I skipped Xbox last gen, Sony might push me back.
They pretty much do this every year or two and nothing ever comes of it. It's unlikely at this point. Heck they do it on Nintendo too and that has a bigger presence in Japan that PlayStation and Xbox combined.
I find it very odd reading through these comments of a lot of people trying to downplay PlayStation single player games and yet almost everyone here was outraged when they discovered they can't play God of War on Xbox through Nvidia Shield when that would never have been expected.
People try to say their first party games are not great or that they wouldn't deteriorate on a service plan, they might. As for being great games, winning GotY as often as they do speaks for itself.
People here try saying they're not fanboys yet the bashing here is insane. You do you, if you prefer GamePass, go for it, I don't and neither does a lot of people. If I have to pay £70 for a game I know I will enjoy I'm fine with it, I know I'm in for a treat because for me their games never disappoint. On the other hand I have yet to find anything I consider remarkable on GamePass that I would pay that kind of price for, so I believe them with this statement. You do t have to hate me for my opinion (I'm sure there will be negative comments thrown at me) nor do I have to hate you for yours. You do you, but don't bash just because you think your opinion is superior.
So, last weeks fiasco confirms that online 'check-ins' are necessary to verify and run games and now proposing locking discs to an account into digital format?
Always online,
No used games,
No trading, locked to an account.
Microsoft already has almost double the studio's Sony does now and some of those are being poorly managed. Rare in my opinion are not what they used to be, 343 did very poorly with Halo, (sorry but it's true) The first ever so called AAAA studio 'The Initiative' was set up years ago and haven't even made a game yet. And they have to work hard to turn Actiblizz around.
Microsoft have enough on their plate managing what they have, buying anymore until then could be a disaster.
Besides, buying anymore big publishers during the Actiblizz process and in so short a time would likely trigger an anti-competitive legislation due to the other two platform holders combined can't even match such big spending power, especially in as short time as Microsoft are doing it.
@Bleachedsmiles So you're insinuating you don't like it when Xbox is left out of something but you also insinuate in your previous post that you're ok with Microsoft buying everything just for your 'value?' Hypocrite much? you don't like timed exclusives but want Microsoft to secure permanent exclusives for you? there is just no reasoning with fanboys.
So since it's 'just business' if Sony does buy Square Enix, which is rumoured to be happening, and locks down Final Fantasy, taking more games permanently away from other people, you're absolutely fine by that morally since it's ok for Microsoft to secure Zenimax and Activision for permeant exclusivity?
@Bleachedsmiles Except it doesn't have to be. Microsoft can secure deals to get games on GamePass with third parties so their customers get to play games day one or either way for a low cost £10.99 per month. While PlayStation customers still get those same games but have to pay £70 a go.
Everybody plays, everybody wins. A line Phil Spencer once used.
People wanting Sony or Microsoft to lock games down to their platform are just point scoring at the end of the day.
Microsoft have secured several third party games to GamePass day one while PlayStation also got them. They don't have to be exclusive for everyone to benefit in one way or another.
Why are people still wishing for MS to have bought them or to buy everything? You get the games either way. This is a better scenario then everybody wins. Wishing for a platform holder to buy this and that is nothing more than bragging rights to 'the other' platforms when you were already getting the game.
On Reddit yesterday there was a post wishing/begging for MS to buy WB as Batman would be 'our answer to Spider-Man'. As I said to him, Batman is already on Xbox so what do you gain?
It's stupid. Embrace buying CD means it's not tied to Xbox or PlayStation, and that's a good thing.
@BAMozzy
Erm, this is exactly my point, so why are people complaining about not being able to play GoW on Xbox but apologising the same thing for Microsoft? Mental gymnastics and fake outrage for the sake of outrage.
I was only pointing out that it could happen if they wanted it to while completely understanding why they and Sony don't. But other folks here can't seem to grasp that.
I did say ms are not expected to publish games on a rival console just as Sony aren't expected to, but people here seem to think they are entitled to play Sony games on Xbox while making excuses for ms.
From several people in this thread it's a 'Sony bad, MS good' comment section when both are doing the same thing.
@Dsswoosh
You're just not getting it. This topic is not about GamePass. If Microsoft wanted their games on PlayStation they could do it via digital distribution, because they already do it on Steam. They don't need Sony's permission.
The fact they don't do it is because they are blocking PlayStation users from once third party games, it's that simple, Microsoft do not want those games on PlayStation or they would do it, GamePass or not.
You're thought process is simply 'Sony bad, Microsoft good' because Sony won't put a in house first party game on Xbox which they would never be expected to do when they have a platform to sell.
But here people are saying, 'we want PlayStation games on Xbox but no-no they can't have our games'. While hiding behind the fact that GamePass isn't on PlayStation when it doesn't need to be. Because if GamePass was mandatory, then those games would not be available on Steam to purchase outright, as they also could be on the PlayStation store, Microsoft doesn't want it it's that simple, so stop making excuses, you can't have it both ways.
@Sol4ris Because it's exclusive. If I had it on PlayStation why would I need an Xbox? And after the acquisitions everyone here was raving how exclusives are great and 'just business' and keep asking/hoping for more acquisitions.
So Xbox fans want PS games on Xbox but when MS get a publisher Xbox fans be like 'lol, exclusive, deal with it'.
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Re: Street Fighter 6 Free Demo Coming To Xbox Next Week
@Banjo-
I don't deny that that's a thing from fanatics and not the majority but does it mean you have to do the same and sink to that? Just be better and let it go. I'm primarily a PlayStation user myself and I see ridiculous comments all the time everywhere on all sides.
Do I agree with shady practices, timed stuff and consolidation? Absolutely not. But it happens and there's nothing anyone can do about it. The ABK deal will do damage one way or another because there will always be someone who loses out somewhere regardless. Just as if Sony or Nintendo do and will partake in such things. The consumer is the one who loses.
That being said there's no point anyone going around with hatred or negativity in your mind all the time. And as someone who suffers from mental health, believe me it does you no good.
No disrespect here. Rest assured.
Re: Street Fighter 6 Free Demo Coming To Xbox Next Week
@Banjo-
With respect.
Firstly you have zero evidence to suggest that Sony had anything to do with this decision but throw out accusations.
Secondly, as @somnambulance points out this has been done before in Xbox's favour. Capcom does weird things.
And thirdly, if we want to talk 'shady' and "trying to hurt the competition" Persona embargo from Phil Spencer ring a bell?
And finally. This is a demo. A week delay of a demo. It's hardly damaging.
Re: Xbox Fans Want To Know What's Going On With Square Enix In 2023
And Square have insinuated and commented from what I've heard whispered around the internet is that they don't like the GamePass business model. But the go to for everyone is to blame Sony when it's (according to what I've heard) they have nothing to do with it according to Square themselves.
And if it was all Sony's doing then games wouldn't be coming out on Nintendo exclusively too and Nintendo don't pay for exclusives.
Pretty obvious they stick mostly to their Japanese friends. (And yes PlayStation is still primarily a Japanese subsidiary since Sony HQ still is based in Tokyo)
It's simple, they avoid Xbox with a lot of their releases. Minus the few releases that Phil paid a lot for supposedly. But let's all blame Sony because they live rent free around here.
Re: Xbox Fans Left Disappointed With Lack Of First-Party Reveals At The Game Awards 2022
@theduckofdeath
Phil Spencer's exact words prior to the Bethesda acquisition was "Bethesda games will release on rival consoles on a case by case basis" then when the ink had dried it was "Bethesda games will release where GamePass exists" he lied about "rivaling consoles since PlayStation and Switch are consoles without GamePass.
And Sony gets third party exclusives? Yeah very little. What about GamePass with an average of 300 games on it at one time with 90% being third party? Can't make those kind of excuses.
As for Starfield and such those games were in development long before aquisitions but still all been delayed.
And what about the so called "initiative?" The world's first AAAA studio according to Phil dreamt up in 2016? Where are they and these supposed AAAA games?
See through him.
Re: Xbox Fans Left Disappointed With Lack Of First-Party Reveals At The Game Awards 2022
@HKK24
Phil Spencer has been the head of Xbox for 10 years now so people can't use the excuse of "he's fixing the mess". Say what you want about Don Mattrick but atleast there were great games during his tenure. I still feel very underwhelmed by the Xbox One generation and this one is so far not feeling any better.
And it's not Don Mattrick's fault any more.
Re: Xbox Fans Left Disappointed With Lack Of First-Party Reveals At The Game Awards 2022
@theduckofdeath
Phil Spencer is the head of Xbox and makes the decisions and has mismanaged it for the last couple of years. He should be held accountable for the lack of games despite for several years of false promises of "we've got things coming" only to deliver the same message each year yet people blindly defend him. Like you're doing here.
Do you think he's just a figurehead and not directly involved?
And you mention Sony? The go to excuse or comparison around here. Third party games? Yeah Xbox has them too so no excuse. Where are the first parties promised for years now? Atleast Sony has released several this generation while Xbox has been practically absent. Again.
And yeah, the FTC may file a complaint but that doesn't excuse the fact that Phil Spencer lied about Bethesda which is one of the reasons for the scrutiny.
Re: Xbox Fans Left Disappointed With Lack Of First-Party Reveals At The Game Awards 2022
If anything this makes them look worse to the regulators. Buying up studios and publishers with nothing to show just shows the total mismanagement happening at Xbox for quite some time.
So far for this generation Xbox has failed to wow or entice me with their console/ecosystem.
Increasing game prices to match Sony and other publisher's/developers with absolutely nothing to show? When are people going to see through Phil Spencer and hold him accountable and stop treating him like some kind of messiah of gaming?
Also, eerie how the article regarding Phil lying to the regulators about the Bethesda buyout is absent from this site.....
Re: Death Stranding Officially Joins Xbox Game Pass For PC Next Week
@Dezzy70
The reason all games on one console would be a bad idea is because there's be no console competitor. We've seen time and again how platform holders push their limits to see what they'd get away with. Like upgrade fees or online access double price increases. it's the outcry from gamers that force decisions to reverse but without competition why would they listen? Where else would console players go to get their games? There's no threat for the platform holders so they'd take the p**s.
Re: Death Stranding Officially Joins Xbox Game Pass For PC Next Week
@Snake_V5
Because Sony is the console publisher for the game and 505 is the PC publisher for the game. Sony decides where the console release goes but not the PC release despite it being a first party IP and owning the engine in which it was built.
Re: Sony Didn't Pay To Keep 'Cult Of The Lamb' Off Xbox Game Pass, Says Publisher
@Titntin
Out of interest, got any good sources? I'm tired of these dedicated sites too, it's come to a point where the news is little or irrelevant and a lot of commentors are aggressive.
I stopped visiting IGN years ago and eurogamer, they all became unbearable to communicate with. And Reddit and Twitter, even worse.
Re: Sony Didn't Pay To Keep 'Cult Of The Lamb' Off Xbox Game Pass, Says Publisher
@JaaackTommm
Well about 50% of this website is a "we hate Sony" cult. Barely a post goes by where they or PlayStation isn't mentioned somewhere. And the writers love to fan the flames and fuel them. It gets them clicks.
Re: Sony Didn't Pay To Keep 'Cult Of The Lamb' Off Xbox Game Pass, Says Publisher
And there it is. Once again gamers got their pitchforks out early casting blame where there was none. What a suprise. 🙄
Re: New Final Fantasy 7 Game Revealed For Xbox, But It's Not 'Remake'
@dsar9012
I'm not a PS fanboy but this is exactly what I'm talking about, the assumption followed by a toxic comment. Thanks for proving my point.
And FYI there were tons of people trolling and gloating after the publisher buyouts and there were people here specifically saying they were going to PS websites and forums to do exactly that.
Re: New Final Fantasy 7 Game Revealed For Xbox, But It's Not 'Remake'
Wow. So many toxic comments here towards PlayStation fans who have done nothing to you. This entire thread turned into a "we hate PlayStation and their fans" thread. You call them toxic and obnoxious but look at your own hypocritical comments. It literally makes you no better. You all say they celebrate when they get an exclusive when you all literally do the same. Remember your toxic comments when Microsoft bought Bethesda and Activision? Remember when people here went to PushSquare to troll them and 'revel in their misery'? (Yes that was the first comment here). I see comments here very often saying 'we want this exclusive, we want that exclusive. Microsoft should buy this company and that company'. Why? What does it do other than take games away from other people when you're moaning about the same thing here which isn't the fans fault. Do you see the hypocrisy?
You're all trying to say they're celebrating that the remake isn't on Xbox when the comments regarding this on PushSquare, atleast a majority, aren't even talking about Xbox at all if you bother to check your facts. The salt here is ridiculous and they're living rent free in your heads.
All you've all done is constantly bash them here while claiming they are toxic. Read you're own comments and evaluate who is actually being the most toxic fans right now. Because it isn't them.
Re: New Final Fantasy 7 Game Revealed For Xbox, But It's Not 'Remake'
@mousieone
And how do we know that? How do we know it's not being blocked? Unless you have a source saying otherwise? Genuinely curious.
Re: New Final Fantasy 7 Game Revealed For Xbox, But It's Not 'Remake'
@Chaudy
Perhaps it's not ready. But like I said there's been a lot of talk and achievements apparently showing up? There's no way it doesn't exist if there are registered achievements.
Re: New Final Fantasy 7 Game Revealed For Xbox, But It's Not 'Remake'
@Chaudy
Then what about the article here recently that stated achievements suddenly showed up on an account? If that's so it exists somewhere.
Re: New Final Fantasy 7 Game Revealed For Xbox, But It's Not 'Remake'
@mousieone
Well, I do t know the answer to that, maybe because it's a very well known series. Interestingly in relation to your list Octopath Traveller isn't on PlayStation despite Sony seemingly being very friendly with Square Enix. Why is that I wonder? Quite curious.
Re: New Final Fantasy 7 Game Revealed For Xbox, But It's Not 'Remake'
@Rmg0731
Starfield was in development before the acquisition also and that's only on Xbox.
Re: New Final Fantasy 7 Game Revealed For Xbox, But It's Not 'Remake'
@Chaudy
To my knowledge the multiplatform status of Indiana Jones is a rumour and the port of the upcoming Goldeneye game is said to be an Xbox exclusive and has been talked about here for weeks.
Amazon own James Bond and therefore control anything related to it. Exclusivity to Xbox is looking like it's paid for.
Re: New Final Fantasy 7 Game Revealed For Xbox, But It's Not 'Remake'
@mousieone
What about Goldeneye and Indiana Jones? Two IP's that Xbox doesn't own but are exclusive? They both do it let's not pretend otherwise.
And that 48h embargo where Microsoft forced Atlus to be silent about Persona coming to other platforms to make it seem exclusive? Very shady practice.
None are innocent.
Re: Phil Spencer's 'No-BS' Approach Convinced Obsidian To Join Xbox
I'm sure that monutain load of money helped too.
Re: Xbox Game Pass In 2022: The Full List Of Everything Announced So Far
I'm in the minority but I was left very unimpressed by Starfield. Another case of overhyped for me I think.
I was very surprised to see Persona, never in a million years would I have believed it, speaking primarily as a PlayStation guy that blew my mind.
And since there was no mention of FF7R I now strongly believe if it hasn't been announced already at what was supposed to be the biggest showcase of the year while the next installment feels eerily close to being announced I don't think it will come to Xbox.
I'd say there isn't really anything yet that has convinced me to pick up a Series X, because I don't have one yet but have considered it due to Sony's recent alarming and annoying decisions and the state of play in my opinion being terrible.
It just felt like a "hey, look how many games we're giving to PC" show and nothing that felt reassuring for the near future of the PS5. My opinion of course. I think it's pretty meh all around at the moment, with the exception of God of War and Hogwarts Legacy there really isn't anything (with an actual release date) I'm looking forward to.
Re: Bethesda Confirms You Can't Manually Land On Planets In Starfield
NMS does what BethesDon't.
Re: Three Persona Games Are Officially Coming To Xbox Game Pass
@UltimateOtaku91
Ah, but they will though. When KotOR comes along as a timed exclusive everyone here will conveniently forget about this. And what about Goldeneye and Octopath traveller? Those aren't first party games but strangely there is no mention of them for PlayStation while Goldeneye in particular is being heavily advertised and marketed for Xbox. And what about Indiana Jones?
That's what I cant stand, the hypocrisy.
As for Phil I can't understand why so many people cant see past his obvious hypocrisy. He does it all the time.
Re: Three Persona Games Are Officially Coming To Xbox Game Pass
It seems highly likely that Microsoft have paid for some kind of exclusivity here, whether it be timed or otherwise. There's just no way Atlus would port these games to Xbox first over PlayStation otherwise. And to Nintendo for that matter.
What gets me though is everyone here is still outraged over FF7R and such but will no doubt say nothing when Microsoft is seemingly paying to secure exclusivity of third party franchises.
Despite Phil's comment of "we don't want to take games away from other platforms".
I've got the games already myself, P4G on PSVita and PC, P5/R on PS4 and P3fes on PS2. But Sony have massively been dropping the ball since the PS5 launch.
Re: PlayStation Store Conjures Speculation Over Final Fantasy VII Remake Coming To Xbox
@NEStalgia
True, P4G remaster never came to a PS home console and that's been.. nearly 2 years? More? Can't remember.
Persona 5 base game recently got taken down from the PS+ Collection so my guess is it's getting a PC port to Steam.
FF7R might come to Xbox but I have my doubts, I'll be surprised if it does. It could even be an indication that FF7R Part2 is pending an announcement with their State of Play coming up.
Re: PlayStation Store Conjures Speculation Over Final Fantasy VII Remake Coming To Xbox
Wouldn't get your hopes up. God of War got taken off the list too following it's PC release and that's a first party game. And since FF7R is on EGS it's probably for that reason, or a Steam release.
And it's highly unlikely Persona will appear on Xbox. P4G was remastered with no appearance on an Xbox platform, 5 probably isn't coming. PC release at best.
Re: Rumour: Indiana Jones Might Not Be An Xbox Exclusive
@BAMozzy
But again, someone still loses out regardless of how many platforms they release on and when, that's the very core of the issue. And I don't mean to offend when I say this as it is nothing against you personally but people try to use those examples to justify exclusivity when at its core it's all the same in one way or another. Someone somewhere missing out.
And all the examples you gave about 'blocking' Microsoft points only to first parties.
Indiana Jones in this example isn't a first party game and coming back to my original point is people here are complaining that a third party IP should be exclusive when also complaining about the exact same situation with FF7 shouldn't be on PlayStation. (To which I agree) it's just how these people are being hypocrites is my main annoyance in this case. Exclusives are going to happen but when KotOR launches as a timed exclusive I can guarantee all these same people will be outraged conveniently forgetting what they said here.
Re: Rumour: Indiana Jones Might Not Be An Xbox Exclusive
@BAMozzy
Whether it's a larger ecosystem or not someone somewhere is being excluded and at its core that's no different any way you look at it, whether it's one system or several people still miss out.
But that's not the point I'm making here, the point I'm making is the hypocrisy from the community. People here and Xbox community in general (and the PS community, not singleing anyone out) complained for an entire generation that exclusives are anti-consumer and need to stop. However when it's in their favour they're all for it while still complaining about such things as FF7 and Spider-Man etc. That's what annoys me, not the concept itself but the double standards.
Those games I mentioned are all third party IP's yet people here are in favour of wanting them only on Xbox and complaining when they don't get something. You can't have it both ways.
Would I like to see an end to exclusivity? Absolutely but it's not going to happen.
What is also annoying is how so many gamers now mention about how much money a corporation has. When did we start caring more about how much money fat suits have in their bank accounts and less about actual games. And the excuse isn't because that provides better games because that isn't always true. Indies have proven that even with less money and income than a huge corporation they can make games that absolutely blow AAA's out of the water.
For the sake of platform warriors so many have forgotten what's important and only care about 'my corporation and logo must have everything and their corporation and logo must have nothing.'
Microsoft may allow games on Steam and mobile but that doesn't take away from the fact that other platforms miss out and in the end while Sony has less platforms to release on both are no different towards the practice. And if gamers don't like it or agree to it, then don't cheer for one and proclaim the other as evil in the same breath. Especially for timed or third parties. Which is exactly what many are doing right here right now. That's the core of what I'm saying.
Btw, PlayStation doesn't put 'Only on PlayStation' on their physical boxes anymore. They stopped doing that after they started porting games to PC. Even the new Horizon and GT7 don't have it on there.
Re: Rumour: Indiana Jones Might Not Be An Xbox Exclusive
Unbelievable. Throughout almost the entire last gen most people here and Phil himself said "exclusives are anti-consumer". Now it's the best thing ever and "about selling consoles." When folks say console sales don't matter to Xbox anymore.
Look, I don't care. But even if it's timed no one here seems to see a problem with a licenced third party IP being either exclusive or timed to Xbox yet non-stop complain about FF7R, Spider-Man and KotOR. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Re: Star Wars Jedi: Survivor Gets Trailer & 2023 Release Date
@Vincent294
Are you in the UK by any chance? If so the Series X has been in stock all week at my favourite online retailer. https://www.shopto.net/en/xbxhw01-xbox-series-x-p191471/
Still no PS5's though.
Re: Xbox Team 'Aware' Of Request For Consoles To Remember Multiple Wi-Fi Networks
@NotoriousWhiz
Just makes me wonder if there was a way to do it without their approval. Just simply access the person's PSN ID and let the Xbox server determine what you've completed. Some websites like Ubisoft allowed you to 'link' platform ID's to their services for points and stuff.
Wishful thinking that it could happen because I put a lot of effort into my trophies. Wouldn't want to start again if I could help it. I'd definitely switch if Phil could figure it out somehow.
Re: Xbox Team 'Aware' Of Request For Consoles To Remember Multiple Wi-Fi Networks
How does one request features? One I would like to see is the ability to convert my PlayStation trophies into their equivalent Xbox achievements for my completed games onto my account (minus the platinum ofc). I have 109 Platinums and wouldn't like to go through that again.
If for that I'd give Sony the boot and but a Series X. They're in stock right now at my favourite online retailer and given the insanity of their greedy service launch I'm so tempted to do it. I skipped Xbox last gen, Sony might push me back.
Re: Atlus Survey Asks If You Want Persona And Other JRPGs On Xbox
They pretty much do this every year or two and nothing ever comes of it. It's unlikely at this point. Heck they do it on Nintendo too and that has a bigger presence in Japan that PlayStation and Xbox combined.
Re: Sony CFO Says That Game Pass-Style Launches Would Cause Exclusives To 'Deteriorate'
I find it very odd reading through these comments of a lot of people trying to downplay PlayStation single player games and yet almost everyone here was outraged when they discovered they can't play God of War on Xbox through Nvidia Shield when that would never have been expected.
People try to say their first party games are not great or that they wouldn't deteriorate on a service plan, they might. As for being great games, winning GotY as often as they do speaks for itself.
People here try saying they're not fanboys yet the bashing here is insane. You do you, if you prefer GamePass, go for it, I don't and neither does a lot of people. If I have to pay £70 for a game I know I will enjoy I'm fine with it, I know I'm in for a treat because for me their games never disappoint. On the other hand I have yet to find anything I consider remarkable on GamePass that I would pay that kind of price for, so I believe them with this statement. You do t have to hate me for my opinion (I'm sure there will be negative comments thrown at me) nor do I have to hate you for yours. You do you, but don't bash just because you think your opinion is superior.
Re: Microsoft Creates Patent That Enables Xbox Discs To Be Converted To Digital
So, last weeks fiasco confirms that online 'check-ins' are necessary to verify and run games and now proposing locking discs to an account into digital format?
Always online,
No used games,
No trading, locked to an account.
Yup, it's the 2013 DRM alright.
Re: Xbox 'Still Working On Resolving' Network Issues
And when cloud gaming goes mainstream and millions of people are all streaming from game servers at once this will happen even more frequently.
Looking forward to that all service future I must say.
Re: Rumour: Warner Bros' Game Studios & IP 'Supposedly' Up For Sale
Microsoft already has almost double the studio's Sony does now and some of those are being poorly managed. Rare in my opinion are not what they used to be, 343 did very poorly with Halo, (sorry but it's true) The first ever so called AAAA studio 'The Initiative' was set up years ago and haven't even made a game yet. And they have to work hard to turn Actiblizz around.
Microsoft have enough on their plate managing what they have, buying anymore until then could be a disaster.
Besides, buying anymore big publishers during the Actiblizz process and in so short a time would likely trigger an anti-competitive legislation due to the other two platform holders combined can't even match such big spending power, especially in as short time as Microsoft are doing it.
Re: Move Over Microsoft, Embracer Group Buys Square Enix's Western Studios
@Bleachedsmiles
So you're insinuating you don't like it when Xbox is left out of something but you also insinuate in your previous post that you're ok with Microsoft buying everything just for your 'value?' Hypocrite much? you don't like timed exclusives but want Microsoft to secure permanent exclusives for you? there is just no reasoning with fanboys.
So since it's 'just business' if Sony does buy Square Enix, which is rumoured to be happening, and locks down Final Fantasy, taking more games permanently away from other people, you're absolutely fine by that morally since it's ok for Microsoft to secure Zenimax and Activision for permeant exclusivity?
Re: Move Over Microsoft, Embracer Group Buys Square Enix's Western Studios
@Bleachedsmiles
Except it doesn't have to be. Microsoft can secure deals to get games on GamePass with third parties so their customers get to play games day one or either way for a low cost £10.99 per month. While PlayStation customers still get those same games but have to pay £70 a go.
Everybody plays, everybody wins. A line Phil Spencer once used.
People wanting Sony or Microsoft to lock games down to their platform are just point scoring at the end of the day.
Microsoft have secured several third party games to GamePass day one while PlayStation also got them. They don't have to be exclusive for everyone to benefit in one way or another.
Re: Move Over Microsoft, Embracer Group Buys Square Enix's Western Studios
Why are people still wishing for MS to have bought them or to buy everything? You get the games either way. This is a better scenario then everybody wins.
Wishing for a platform holder to buy this and that is nothing more than bragging rights to 'the other' platforms when you were already getting the game.
On Reddit yesterday there was a post wishing/begging for MS to buy WB as Batman would be 'our answer to Spider-Man'. As I said to him, Batman is already on Xbox so what do you gain?
It's stupid. Embrace buying CD means it's not tied to Xbox or PlayStation, and that's a good thing.
Re: Sony Still Blocking Games From Xbox Users On NVIDIA GeForce Now
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@BAMozzy
Erm, this is exactly my point, so why are people complaining about not being able to play GoW on Xbox but apologising the same thing for Microsoft? Mental gymnastics and fake outrage for the sake of outrage.
I was only pointing out that it could happen if they wanted it to while completely understanding why they and Sony don't. But other folks here can't seem to grasp that.
I did say ms are not expected to publish games on a rival console just as Sony aren't expected to, but people here seem to think they are entitled to play Sony games on Xbox while making excuses for ms.
From several people in this thread it's a 'Sony bad, MS good' comment section when both are doing the same thing.
Re: Sony Still Blocking Games From Xbox Users On NVIDIA GeForce Now
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Re: Sony Still Blocking Games From Xbox Users On NVIDIA GeForce Now
@Dsswoosh
You're just not getting it. This topic is not about GamePass. If Microsoft wanted their games on PlayStation they could do it via digital distribution, because they already do it on Steam. They don't need Sony's permission.
The fact they don't do it is because they are blocking PlayStation users from once third party games, it's that simple, Microsoft do not want those games on PlayStation or they would do it, GamePass or not.
You're thought process is simply 'Sony bad, Microsoft good' because Sony won't put a in house first party game on Xbox which they would never be expected to do when they have a platform to sell.
But here people are saying, 'we want PlayStation games on Xbox but no-no they can't have our games'. While hiding behind the fact that GamePass isn't on PlayStation when it doesn't need to be. Because if GamePass was mandatory, then those games would not be available on Steam to purchase outright, as they also could be on the PlayStation store, Microsoft doesn't want it it's that simple, so stop making excuses, you can't have it both ways.
Re: Sony Still Blocking Games From Xbox Users On NVIDIA GeForce Now
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@Sol4ris
Because it's exclusive. If I had it on PlayStation why would I need an Xbox? And after the acquisitions everyone here was raving how exclusives are great and 'just business' and keep asking/hoping for more acquisitions.
So Xbox fans want PS games on Xbox but when MS get a publisher Xbox fans be like 'lol, exclusive, deal with it'.
Re: Sony Still Blocking Games From Xbox Users On NVIDIA GeForce Now
@Dsswoosh
So I suppose Microsoft aren't blocking Bethesda games on PlayStation by buying them when they could just put them on disc or digital.
Let's not pretend otherwise. Because streaming isn't their only option if they wanted their games on other platforms that bad.
No GoW on Xbox, No Starfield or next ES and FO on PlayStation.