Why would they? That's as ridiculous as me asking to stream Halo to PS5 via Xcloud.
Did anyone really expect this? Guarantee the 'Sony anti-consumer' comments will soon appear on Twitter and YouTube though.
Bet they don't when Starfield doesn't come to PlayStation which was in development way prior to the acquisition.
(Which also isn't expected.)
@UltimateOtaku91
That I don't know. What I do know is the legislation used to be less restrictive until 2021 when the Japanese government further strengthened the legislation to further prevent foreign influence.
Perhaps prior there were ways in which it could be circumvented. Maybe there even still is.
Either way it is extremely unlikely to happen with Sega's other ventures. Considering their arcades, hotels, gambling and now movies Microsoft couldn't manage all of that and Sammy couldn't keep it because it wouldn't work without the Intellectual Property being, their little blue hedgehog.
Considering how much money gambling and pachinko alone make in tax for Japan Microsoft would have a very hard time acquiring anything there at all without a minor corporate presence.
For everyone saying Sega, it is not going to happen. Sega are too close to Nintendo more than anyone else, and Nintendo are bigger in Japan than any other gaming platform. That means that from sales, revenue and tax the Japanese government wouldn't want to see the biggest publisher who has a big appeal to the audience of the best selling platform to go an American company.
I'm certain they would squash that deal immediately. Not to mention Sammy Holdings will have to want to sell Sega in which they have more going on than just games. Such as their arcade business and Sega game resorts, gambling halls and now, movies with Sonic. Sega recently have spoken of cloud gaming via their arcades and also suggests their other gaming ventures, they will likely end up with their own cloud gaming platform.
In addition to all of that they are very secure financially. According to financial reports they make, in revenue a third of what GamePass does in the same quarter each year at present.
And finally, for people who think it isn't true, the Japanese Foreign Investment legislation restricts foreign entities from acquiring or gaining more than a 49% partnership share in a Japanese business.
@Stoned_Patrol So what if it's a PlayStation site, you don't have to comment. But you feel content with making assumptions on what they're saying about the situation with a fanboy comment like that when the truth is they're outraged. All because you have a clear hatred of the platform and can't be bothered to check out the facts and be proven wrong because you're dedication to a logo won't allow your pride to be hurt.
@Stoned_Patrol
You know your comment literally makes you no better than them, right? Calling them 'baby horses' just shows nothing but immature hatred and makes you just as much a fanboy as some of that more vocal fanbase.
And saying 'they roasted Microsoft' does that make Xbox better somehow by doing the same thing as you roast them? Your comment is no different from any you accuse them of.
And for your information you might want to head over to PushSquare, they're not defending it, infact they are in an uproar over it meaning their integrity for 'roasting Microsoft' is intact.
To be fair he is addressing what has been said around the internet and says "the price hasn't gone up in four years" but he didn't dismiss or deny that it won't go up.
This could even be interpreted as a hint that a price increase will happen especially as he addresses the publisher acquisitions. Shareholders will want their investment security.
@Banjo-
No I've never played Viva Piñyata. My 'relaxing' game is Persona 4: Dancing All Night. Some people laugh at that but I like the music tracks.
I unfortunately don't have any family, my last family member, my mother died last February. My psychiatrist keeps in regular contact and that's about the only human interaction I get these days. That and I took in my mother's dog because I live alone.
@Banjo-
I wish it was that easy. I have epilepsy, bipolar disorder and autism. A terrible combination so day to day life is crappy and very difficult for me. I'm on enough medication that I could open my own pharmacy. (lol).
Gaming is my only means of escape and enjoyment and things like this are upsetting. I had hoped other people could see that.
I think we as gamers should care about what's best for us as a whole, and not the companies that don't care about us deep down and their primary goal is money. Of course I understand that's how business works though, I just wish it didn't have to be like this and wish, if these platform holders really are 'trying to save the industry' then let everyone play.
@mousieone So again when can you play Spider-Man without buying a PlayStation if you, hypothetically' only play on one platform? You can't. Therefore Xbox users are locked out of it. I don't know why this is difficult to understand.
You say 'too focused on a plastic box' not everyone has the ability to have more than one platform. It's that simple. That's how exclusives, work. Even if it's only one platform that can't have it.
Again, what about people like myself who have serious mental health issues and can't cope with even things like this that might seem minor to some, but is damaging to some? What are we supposed to do?
In the end it benefits everyone. Companies make more money by opening their games to every single place they can and users get to play anything anywhere.
@Banjo-
It would make sense. Sony has around 100million customers. Microsoft charging full price to them, especially the stubborn ones who won't switch only makes them more money.
And yes, I already said Sony should do the same. Dividing people from hardware that barely makes any money is not worthwhile anymore.
Again, would you want to lose a big IP to PlayStation? Because I sure as hell don't want to lose anything and most people have s preference on where to play.
If by consumer friendly you mean putting games on PC then Sony has started that too with a different approach. As gamers acquisitions don't benefit anyone if you can't have more than one platform for whatever reason. For some people it is not financially viable.
For myself I have serious mental health issues in which even simple things like this cause me anxiety and even sometimes epileptic Seizures over stress because I don't cope well with choices among other things.
@Banjo- If Microsoft wants as many customers as possible, and consoles make pretty much no money from sales then it would be smart to tap into Sony's very large user base.
I've said before it would be smart to have GamePass on Xbox for the benefit of their primary customers and still publish games to PlayStation but make them pay full price. It's a win-win for Microsoft for those who won't leave.
The same goes for anything Sony squires. As I said to the other poster, what if Sony actually did acquire Capcom? I don't want Xbox to lose an IP like Resident Evil. What if MS bought Sega? I don't want to lose Yakuza.
@mousieone Maybe to 'casuals' and I use that term lightly but a big open world game like Elder Scrolls and Fallout, or an mmo shooter like Destiny? No way that's a good experience on a tiny screen.
At the end of the day dividing the industry is not good for gamers as a whole, surely you understand that? Again, if Sony and Microsoft are doing it to help the industry then come to an arrangement to not to lock each other out. What if Sony did get Capcom? I wouldn't want to see Xbox fans lose Resident Evil. What if Microsoft bought Sega? I don't want to lose Yakuza.
@mousieone
Who would want to play Elder Scrolls on a phone?
If these platform holders are doing it 'for the gamers' and 'for the industry' then don't lock each other out of games they could play before if all it's for is to stop Tencent, Google and Facebook etc.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm not trying to start an argument or be hostile btw but everytime this happens I get concerned for the industry getting further divided up.
@mousieone
Tencent didn't buy up two huge publishers and put them behind a paywall and lock out two other major platforms.
If it's to help gamers, and Phil doesn't care where you play games then don't take them away from people. It doesn't benefit consumers who could already play them and it just hurts the ones who did and now can't.
@LtSarge To be fair the same could be said about Zenimax and Activision. What were Xbox gamers gaining on games they could already play but taken away from two other platforms?
For the record I'm against both Sony and Microsoft for these big acquisitions.
Ah, see what you've done Microsoft? You're causing an acquisition war. And all it will do is further divide the industry.
I was/am against the acquisition of Zenimax and Activision and as a PlayStation fan I'm also against this.
Hopefully this will cause Sony and Microsoft to come to an arrangement where games can be shared that will bring online gamers together. Even though I don't play CoD but have and sometimes still play Destiny. I have a friend on Xbox who plays Destiny so just share CoD and Destiny.
This is getting ridiculous and all it does is hurt gamers, not help them.
@Kingdom_Hearts95 Glad to see there are some people here neutral enough to see that the Xbox and PlayStation community, or this website and PushSquare are both two sides of the same coin.
I've been wanting to say it for a while but was always afraid to because of the cultish nature of people here. I thought I would get roasted over it, called a fanboy and everyone would be blind and in complete denial of how they behave.
The problem with a fanboy is no matter which side you are on you always think the other is worse because they are making fun of insults to your side. They say here Xbox fans are not toxic and PlayStation fans are the most abusive. They want to go over to Twitter and Reddit to see how their community behaves towards PlayStation, the abuse is so unbelievable that some of them even go so far as to threaten lives. Over a damn console.
The thing that bothers me the most is the hypocrisy. Literally every single thread on this site they bring up PlayStation and how they hate them and yet their comments mirror exactly the same as the other side.
They say exclusives are good when MS bought Zenimax and Activision, while getting mad over timed exclusives. They say Sony are bad for putting games only on PlayStation (they put games on PC now too) while ignoring that MS took entire developers and IP's away from two other major platforms forever. They complain about FF7R and will complaint about KotoR, while saying about CoD, Fallot, Elder Scrolls etc "it's just business, you don't spend all that money to share with a competitor. And yet Sony licences Spider-Man, pays their own developer to make a game and keeps it only on PS and that's completely wrong WHEN THEY MADE IT THEMSELVES. They say Sony are anti-consumer but forget Microsoft tried to double the price of XBLG, they forget the 2013 fiasco, they forget that Phil wants the right to ban people across the entire internet for breaking the Xbox code of conduct, they bring up cross-play and forget Sony asked for it first.
How can they not see it? Maybe they just don't want to. All fanboys can see is hate, not logic.
I like Xbox, I like PlayStation. I like PS more because their games, single player stories, and their business model, buying games on disc outright for a one time fee, appeals more to me. I don't want digital or to be tied to a service, there's nothing wrong with that. There is also nothing wrong with those who do. When I say this I just get met with "GamePass is the best deal in gaming, you're just a 'Pony', it's the future". It may be 'better' for you but it's not 'better' for me. I don't want that future, I don't like not having ownership or a nice physical collection to admire. And when you speak out about it you get called a 'pony' and a 'shill'. Either side calls the other a 'pony' or an 'xbot' if any of them dares speak out against their precious box, not realising you can like one or both without blindly worshipping everything they do.
I think Phil Spencer is an idiot and he's destroying gaming because they can't directly compete with PS in a fair games to console offering, they can't create an IP so they buy everything instead.
I also think that Jim Ryan is a moron, because he can't find his way out of a paper bag let alone run a company. When he said "at PlayStation we respect our legacy" I spat my coffee out and yelled "where's the f***king backwards compatibility then!?!". "Who would play these old games" he said.
@NEStalgia
That's also my point. Timed exclusives will be played by everyone eventually. Buying up publishers where the games were previously accessable to all is the same thing but permanent. It just makes me scratch my head when folks say timed exclusivity is worse than a big permanent third party buyout.
I think I had a conversation with you the other day on PushSquare where I said what's wrong with creating new studios and new games, why should gamers hope one side or the other should buy everything?
Sony's contract has expired with FF7R and apparently EGS have or are securing a new timed exclusivity with the game.
I think third parties should be off limits for timed or buyouts unless they either specifically look for a buyer or need help with development costs.
The gaming industry is long overdue some legal regulation to prevent unfair practices in the industry in my opinion.
@LtSarge
Well yes that is true, but the fans do fuel that fire on both sides when something like this happens which makes matters worse and each side will claim to be the victim.
Even this article right here has people being negative and slightly toxic towards PlayStation in the comments.
It's the level of hypocrisy on both sides I can't stand. People here keep saying in some articles "MS should buy -insert developer-" on multiple different developers.
They should think for a minute, how would they feel if it was the other way around? Sure, it's positive for Xbox but how does it help everyone else?
To split the industry like that and to actually want it, only benefits a certain demographic. They don't consider the effect on the industry as a whole. Because to them all that matters is "for us to win they must lose". As gamers no one should think like that, but here we are.
I get what you're saying and you're right, but hardly anyone else on both sides will see either your point or mine because to the majority of them all that matters is the logo on a box.
I've said this over on PushSquare too and those people should be ashamed of such behaviour. Each should try putting the other in their shoes.
@LtSarge
As a fan of PlayStation myself I agree with what you just said. There is negativity and toxicity in the community and on PushSquare. But that also happens here. I see posts all the time from people here in literally every single article where someone negatively brings up PlayStation, even when the article is completely irrelevant to them.
And on the day that the Activision acquisition was announced there were literally comments saying "I'm going over to PushSquare to troll them and revel in their misery". So no one can claim that Xbox fans are also not toxic.
They give each other a pass depending on the side they are on. It's cultish behaviour and both sides are as bad as each other.
Just as you said, if Sony bought a major publisher how would the people here react? Exactly the same way as them, so how can anyone here claim to be better or above them? That's plain hypocrisy, the thing people here say they are not.
Look how everyone here reacted to FF7R but are ok with two major publisher buyouts. Timed exclusivity is totally evil but permanent exclusivity is ok.
And when KotoR comes out IF it doesn't come to Xbox I'll gurantee everyone here will be foaming at the mouth and conveniently forget about the Activision and Zenimax buyouts.
TLDR. Both sides are guilty of what they accuse the other of and I wish they would take a look in the mirror.
Yup. They're hypocrites. It's just business and exclusives are great. Taking games that the platform holder never developed or created permanently from two major platforms forever is no problem. All of us here love exclusives now.
That's why I don't expect anyone here on Xbox complain about FF7R timed exclusivity. Or when KotOR possibly doesn't come out on Xbox.
Because people here are not hypocrites and it's just business.
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Re: Sony Still Blocking Games From Xbox Users On NVIDIA GeForce Now
Why would they? That's as ridiculous as me asking to stream Halo to PS5 via Xcloud.
Did anyone really expect this? Guarantee the 'Sony anti-consumer' comments will soon appear on Twitter and YouTube though.
Bet they don't when Starfield doesn't come to PlayStation which was in development way prior to the acquisition.
(Which also isn't expected.)
Re: Xbox Isn't Done With New Acquisitions, Job Listing Suggests
@UltimateOtaku91
That I don't know. What I do know is the legislation used to be less restrictive until 2021 when the Japanese government further strengthened the legislation to further prevent foreign influence.
Perhaps prior there were ways in which it could be circumvented. Maybe there even still is.
Either way it is extremely unlikely to happen with Sega's other ventures. Considering their arcades, hotels, gambling and now movies Microsoft couldn't manage all of that and Sammy couldn't keep it because it wouldn't work without the Intellectual Property being, their little blue hedgehog.
Considering how much money gambling and pachinko alone make in tax for Japan Microsoft would have a very hard time acquiring anything there at all without a minor corporate presence.
Besides, Nintendo wouldn't be too happy about it.
Edit. Here's a little something I read that sort of backs up what I mean. Except the final paragraph is completely wrong.
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/71786/no-microsoft-isnt-buying-sega-and-has-reason-to-sell/amp.html
And here is an article regarding the Japanese Foreign Investment legislation.
https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=dc6b7f73-0da0-4f3c-8b73-f021f82c652c
Re: Xbox Isn't Done With New Acquisitions, Job Listing Suggests
For everyone saying Sega, it is not going to happen. Sega are too close to Nintendo more than anyone else, and Nintendo are bigger in Japan than any other gaming platform. That means that from sales, revenue and tax the Japanese government wouldn't want to see the biggest publisher who has a big appeal to the audience of the best selling platform to go an American company.
I'm certain they would squash that deal immediately. Not to mention Sammy Holdings will have to want to sell Sega in which they have more going on than just games. Such as their arcade business and Sega game resorts, gambling halls and now, movies with Sonic. Sega recently have spoken of cloud gaming via their arcades and also suggests their other gaming ventures, they will likely end up with their own cloud gaming platform.
In addition to all of that they are very secure financially. According to financial reports they make, in revenue a third of what GamePass does in the same quarter each year at present.
And finally, for people who think it isn't true, the Japanese Foreign Investment legislation restricts foreign entities from acquiring or gaining more than a 49% partnership share in a Japanese business.
In short, Microsoft will not acquire Sega.
Re: Sony Reportedly Joining Xbox In Creating 'Ad Program' For Free-To-Play Games
@Stoned_Patrol
So what if it's a PlayStation site, you don't have to comment. But you feel content with making assumptions on what they're saying about the situation with a fanboy comment like that when the truth is they're outraged. All because you have a clear hatred of the platform and can't be bothered to check out the facts and be proven wrong because you're dedication to a logo won't allow your pride to be hurt.
And for your information 'kid' I'm 34.
Re: Sony Reportedly Joining Xbox In Creating 'Ad Program' For Free-To-Play Games
@Stoned_Patrol
You know your comment literally makes you no better than them, right? Calling them 'baby horses' just shows nothing but immature hatred and makes you just as much a fanboy as some of that more vocal fanbase.
And saying 'they roasted Microsoft' does that make Xbox better somehow by doing the same thing as you roast them? Your comment is no different from any you accuse them of.
And for your information you might want to head over to PushSquare, they're not defending it, infact they are in an uproar over it meaning their integrity for 'roasting Microsoft' is intact.
Re: Ubisoft Would "Of Course" Consider Any Potential Acquisition Offers
@Lupaie79
Even if MS did acquire them EA doesn't own the sports games, they only licence them and would lose that licence with an acquisition.
Re: Xbox Boss Responds To Sceptics, Uses Price Of Game Pass As Example
To be fair he is addressing what has been said around the internet and says "the price hasn't gone up in four years" but he didn't dismiss or deny that it won't go up.
This could even be interpreted as a hint that a price increase will happen especially as he addresses the publisher acquisitions. Shareholders will want their investment security.
Re: Sony Acquiring Bungie For $3.6 Billion, Studio Will Remain Multiplatform
@Banjo-
No I've never played Viva Piñyata. My 'relaxing' game is Persona 4: Dancing All Night. Some people laugh at that but I like the music tracks.
I unfortunately don't have any family, my last family member, my mother died last February. My psychiatrist keeps in regular contact and that's about the only human interaction I get these days. That and I took in my mother's dog because I live alone.
Re: Sony Acquiring Bungie For $3.6 Billion, Studio Will Remain Multiplatform
@Banjo-
I wish it was that easy. I have epilepsy, bipolar disorder and autism. A terrible combination so day to day life is crappy and very difficult for me. I'm on enough medication that I could open my own pharmacy. (lol).
Gaming is my only means of escape and enjoyment and things like this are upsetting. I had hoped other people could see that.
I think we as gamers should care about what's best for us as a whole, and not the companies that don't care about us deep down and their primary goal is money. Of course I understand that's how business works though, I just wish it didn't have to be like this and wish, if these platform holders really are 'trying to save the industry' then let everyone play.
Re: Sony Acquiring Bungie For $3.6 Billion, Studio Will Remain Multiplatform
@mousieone
So again when can you play Spider-Man without buying a PlayStation if you, hypothetically' only play on one platform? You can't. Therefore Xbox users are locked out of it. I don't know why this is difficult to understand.
You say 'too focused on a plastic box' not everyone has the ability to have more than one platform.
It's that simple. That's how exclusives, work. Even if it's only one platform that can't have it.
Again, what about people like myself who have serious mental health issues and can't cope with even things like this that might seem minor to some, but is damaging to some?
What are we supposed to do?
In the end it benefits everyone. Companies make more money by opening their games to every single place they can and users get to play anything anywhere.
Re: Sony Acquiring Bungie For $3.6 Billion, Studio Will Remain Multiplatform
@Banjo-
It would make sense. Sony has around 100million customers. Microsoft charging full price to them, especially the stubborn ones who won't switch only makes them more money.
And yes, I already said Sony should do the same. Dividing people from hardware that barely makes any money is not worthwhile anymore.
Again, would you want to lose a big IP to PlayStation? Because I sure as hell don't want to lose anything and most people have s preference on where to play.
If by consumer friendly you mean putting games on PC then Sony has started that too with a different approach. As gamers acquisitions don't benefit anyone if you can't have more than one platform for whatever reason. For some people it is not financially viable.
For myself I have serious mental health issues in which even simple things like this cause me anxiety and even sometimes epileptic Seizures over stress because I don't cope well with choices among other things.
Re: Sony Acquiring Bungie For $3.6 Billion, Studio Will Remain Multiplatform
@mousieone
We are locked out. When can I play Fallout 5 on PlayStation? I can't. When can you play Spider-Man on Xbox? You can't.
If you exclude a game from a platform, even if it goes to a phone or a PC etc someone is locked out.
As for 'casuals' I said I use that term loosely for lack of a better way to define it.
Re: Sony Acquiring Bungie For $3.6 Billion, Studio Will Remain Multiplatform
@Banjo-
If Microsoft wants as many customers as possible, and consoles make pretty much no money from sales then it would be smart to tap into Sony's very large user base.
I've said before it would be smart to have GamePass on Xbox for the benefit of their primary customers and still publish games to PlayStation but make them pay full price. It's a win-win for Microsoft for those who won't leave.
The same goes for anything Sony squires. As I said to the other poster, what if Sony actually did acquire Capcom? I don't want Xbox to lose an IP like Resident Evil. What if MS bought Sega? I don't want to lose Yakuza.
Re: Sony Acquiring Bungie For $3.6 Billion, Studio Will Remain Multiplatform
@mousieone
Maybe to 'casuals' and I use that term lightly but a big open world game like Elder Scrolls and Fallout, or an mmo shooter like Destiny? No way that's a good experience on a tiny screen.
At the end of the day dividing the industry is not good for gamers as a whole, surely you understand that?
Again, if Sony and Microsoft are doing it to help the industry then come to an arrangement to not to lock each other out.
What if Sony did get Capcom? I wouldn't want to see Xbox fans lose Resident Evil. What if Microsoft bought Sega? I don't want to lose Yakuza.
In the end we're the ones who lose.
Re: Sony Acquiring Bungie For $3.6 Billion, Studio Will Remain Multiplatform
@mousieone
Who would want to play Elder Scrolls on a phone?
If these platform holders are doing it 'for the gamers' and 'for the industry' then don't lock each other out of games they could play before if all it's for is to stop Tencent, Google and Facebook etc.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm not trying to start an argument or be hostile btw but everytime this happens I get concerned for the industry getting further divided up.
Re: Sony Acquiring Bungie For $3.6 Billion, Studio Will Remain Multiplatform
@mousieone
Tencent didn't buy up two huge publishers and put them behind a paywall and lock out two other major platforms.
If it's to help gamers, and Phil doesn't care where you play games then don't take them away from people. It doesn't benefit consumers who could already play them and it just hurts the ones who did and now can't.
That goes for both Sony and Microsoft.
Re: Sony Acquiring Bungie For $3.6 Billion, Studio Will Remain Multiplatform
@LtSarge
To be fair the same could be said about Zenimax and Activision. What were Xbox gamers gaining on games they could already play but taken away from two other platforms?
For the record I'm against both Sony and Microsoft for these big acquisitions.
Re: Sony Acquiring Bungie For $3.6 Billion, Studio Will Remain Multiplatform
Ah, see what you've done Microsoft? You're causing an acquisition war. And all it will do is further divide the industry.
I was/am against the acquisition of Zenimax and Activision and as a PlayStation fan I'm also against this.
Hopefully this will cause Sony and Microsoft to come to an arrangement where games can be shared that will bring online gamers together. Even though I don't play CoD but have and sometimes still play Destiny.
I have a friend on Xbox who plays Destiny so just share CoD and Destiny.
This is getting ridiculous and all it does is hurt gamers, not help them.
Re: Xbox Exec Responds To Being Criticised For 'Trolling' PlayStation Fans On Twitter
@Kingdom_Hearts95
Glad to see there are some people here neutral enough to see that the Xbox and PlayStation community, or this website and PushSquare are both two sides of the same coin.
I've been wanting to say it for a while but was always afraid to because of the cultish nature of people here. I thought I would get roasted over it, called a fanboy and everyone would be blind and in complete denial of how they behave.
The problem with a fanboy is no matter which side you are on you always think the other is worse because they are making fun of insults to your side.
They say here Xbox fans are not toxic and PlayStation fans are the most abusive.
They want to go over to Twitter and Reddit to see how their community behaves towards PlayStation, the abuse is so unbelievable that some of them even go so far as to threaten lives. Over a damn console.
The thing that bothers me the most is the hypocrisy. Literally every single thread on this site they bring up PlayStation and how they hate them and yet their comments mirror exactly the same as the other side.
They say exclusives are good when MS bought Zenimax and Activision, while getting mad over timed exclusives.
They say Sony are bad for putting games only on PlayStation (they put games on PC now too) while ignoring that MS took entire developers and IP's away from two other major platforms forever.
They complain about FF7R and will complaint about KotoR, while saying about CoD, Fallot, Elder Scrolls etc "it's just business, you don't spend all that money to share with a competitor.
And yet Sony licences Spider-Man, pays their own developer to make a game and keeps it only on PS and that's completely wrong WHEN THEY MADE IT THEMSELVES. They say Sony are anti-consumer but forget Microsoft tried to double the price of XBLG, they forget the 2013 fiasco, they forget that Phil wants the right to ban people across the entire internet for breaking the Xbox code of conduct, they bring up cross-play and forget Sony asked for it first.
How can they not see it? Maybe they just don't want to. All fanboys can see is hate, not logic.
I like Xbox, I like PlayStation. I like PS more because their games, single player stories, and their business model, buying games on disc outright for a one time fee, appeals more to me.
I don't want digital or to be tied to a service, there's nothing wrong with that. There is also nothing wrong with those who do.
When I say this I just get met with "GamePass is the best deal in gaming, you're just a 'Pony', it's the future".
It may be 'better' for you but it's not 'better' for me. I don't want that future, I don't like not having ownership or a nice physical collection to admire. And when you speak out about it you get called a 'pony' and a 'shill'.
Either side calls the other a 'pony' or an 'xbot' if any of them dares speak out against their precious box, not realising you can like one or both without blindly worshipping everything they do.
I think Phil Spencer is an idiot and he's destroying gaming because they can't directly compete with PS in a fair games to console offering, they can't create an IP so they buy everything instead.
I also think that Jim Ryan is a moron, because he can't find his way out of a paper bag let alone run a company. When he said "at PlayStation we respect our legacy" I spat my coffee out and yelled "where's the f***king backwards compatibility then!?!". "Who would play these old games" he said.
Re: Xbox Exec Responds To Being Criticised For 'Trolling' PlayStation Fans On Twitter
@NEStalgia
That's also my point. Timed exclusives will be played by everyone eventually. Buying up publishers where the games were previously accessable to all is the same thing but permanent. It just makes me scratch my head when folks say timed exclusivity is worse than a big permanent third party buyout.
I think I had a conversation with you the other day on PushSquare where I said what's wrong with creating new studios and new games, why should gamers hope one side or the other should buy everything?
Sony's contract has expired with FF7R and apparently EGS have or are securing a new timed exclusivity with the game.
I think third parties should be off limits for timed or buyouts unless they either specifically look for a buyer or need help with development costs.
The gaming industry is long overdue some legal regulation to prevent unfair practices in the industry in my opinion.
Re: Xbox Exec Responds To Being Criticised For 'Trolling' PlayStation Fans On Twitter
@LtSarge
Well yes that is true, but the fans do fuel that fire on both sides when something like this happens which makes matters worse and each side will claim to be the victim.
Even this article right here has people being negative and slightly toxic towards PlayStation in the comments.
It's the level of hypocrisy on both sides I can't stand. People here keep saying in some articles "MS should buy -insert developer-" on multiple different developers.
They should think for a minute, how would they feel if it was the other way around? Sure, it's positive for Xbox but how does it help everyone else?
To split the industry like that and to actually want it, only benefits a certain demographic. They don't consider the effect on the industry as a whole. Because to them all that matters is "for us to win they must lose". As gamers no one should think like that, but here we are.
I get what you're saying and you're right, but hardly anyone else on both sides will see either your point or mine because to the majority of them all that matters is the logo on a box.
I've said this over on PushSquare too and those people should be ashamed of such behaviour. Each should try putting the other in their shoes.
Re: Xbox Exec Responds To Being Criticised For 'Trolling' PlayStation Fans On Twitter
@LtSarge
As a fan of PlayStation myself I agree with what you just said. There is negativity and toxicity in the community and on PushSquare. But that also happens here. I see posts all the time from people here in literally every single article where someone negatively brings up PlayStation, even when the article is completely irrelevant to them.
And on the day that the Activision acquisition was announced there were literally comments saying "I'm going over to PushSquare to troll them and revel in their misery". So no one can claim that Xbox fans are also not toxic.
They give each other a pass depending on the side they are on. It's cultish behaviour and both sides are as bad as each other.
Just as you said, if Sony bought a major publisher how would the people here react? Exactly the same way as them, so how can anyone here claim to be better or above them? That's plain hypocrisy, the thing people here say they are not.
Look how everyone here reacted to FF7R but are ok with two major publisher buyouts. Timed exclusivity is totally evil but permanent exclusivity is ok.
And when KotoR comes out IF it doesn't come to Xbox I'll gurantee everyone here will be foaming at the mouth and conveniently forget about the Activision and Zenimax buyouts.
TLDR. Both sides are guilty of what they accuse the other of and I wish they would take a look in the mirror.
Re: Xbox Exec Responds To Being Criticised For 'Trolling' PlayStation Fans On Twitter
Yup. They're hypocrites. It's just business and exclusives are great. Taking games that the platform holder never developed or created permanently from two major platforms forever is no problem. All of us here love exclusives now.
That's why I don't expect anyone here on Xbox complain about FF7R timed exclusivity. Or when KotOR possibly doesn't come out on Xbox.
Because people here are not hypocrites and it's just business.