Xbox Fans Left Disappointed With Lack Of First-Party Reveals At The Game Awards 2022

Yea, was quite disappointed to see nothing from Xbox here. With so much supposedly slated for next year this doesn’t make much sense. The only thing I could think of was holding back for their own surprise announcements or to make regulators think Sony is extra dominant. Regardless, I went in hyped, what a blow

Unacceptable.

It being the same day that the FTC blocks the ActiBlizz deal + multiple (now confirmed) rumors stating that they weren't showing anything as to not give any ammo to regulators (not even GoldenEye 007), today really blew chunks.

Dear Microsoft, I know your first-party studios already have their plates full, so please hire some (credible) indy game studios to develop some games for the Xbox ecosystem. You can start with a 16-bit, platformer/Metroidvania "demake" of Prey.

If Microsoft doesn't want to give ammo to regulators then they're effectively going to have to skip the series generation in terms of first party, and return to compete next gen. This one's a write off thanks to the stalled acquisition.

my xbox SX has been gathering dust...i switched to pc sorry xbox ....your a failure

I really doubt the regulators rumors are true because they wouldn’t have announced the 70 dollar game price. I seriously think they never had plans to show anything. And in fact the price hike being announced Monday suggests to me they were hoping to get it out of the way before the lack of anything at the show

And the award show was pretty packed. They even had the SF6 stuff in the pre-show. So it’s not like they had hole to fill.

Disappointed? Why?

This is exactly what I expected.

When does Microsoft ever have anything to show? And when they do it is some years off prerender that has nothing to do with the final game. Or the game just gets canceled.

Hard to not be cynical as an Xbox fan.

@InterceptorAlpha The one show they generally have something for is TGAs. While I agree with your statement. It’s very weird for them to have nothing at a show they at least have release dates for or new Gamepass announcements.

Which I think MH Rise was supposed to be their thing till it got leaked.

What we need to realize is shows like The Game Awards are redundant for game reveals for first party platform holders.
In a world where they can host their own showcase through digital mediums, why rush and waste resources?

I'd fully expect an Xbox showcase Feb/March with release dates for Redfall, Starfield, AoE 4 etc.

they will announce when they re ready at there own event

Some more Japanese titles coming next year shown off from Capcom, Monster Hunter: Rise, Street Fighter 6 & Namco Bandai, Armoured Core VI:Fires of Rubicon, Tekken 8 plus an MMO in Collaboration with Amazon called Blueprotocol.

Push Square, excitement and fun on some new dlc and PS Games announced. Not amazing but momentum behind the brand some PR and publicity.

Pure Xbox, Hello Microsoft do you have a gaming department, do you now want PR and momentum is.

@trev666
They should have at least used these awards to create some momentum and PR for the supposed before the end of June 2023 release of the big 3.

I mean Redfall and Starfield are new IP and some PR at this stage would have been good for them.

And STILL no GoldenEye... 😭 😭 😭

Good, if Microsoft do have any then they are obviously saving them for the E3 esque showcase they usually have, although any games coming out before that show then last night would of been the best time to show it.

It ok going on about Microsoft will show these games later at their own showcase.
Watched by mainly Xbox fans.
It’s the events where all console fans watch that you want create a bit of momentum and PR for your new IP.
Whip up some excitement and drama for your new games.

Can’t be disappointed when I didn’t expect anything 🤣

@UltimateOtaku91
Phil said Redfall, Forza and Starfield will be out by the end of June 2023.
Sorry hang on Phil’s lips moved again 😂

I've got too many games again at year end. Game Pass has delivered a ton of value despite the lack of launches; Chivalry 2, Lego Star Wars Skywalker Saga, Persona 5, Pentiment, Death Loop, etc etc and more on the way with Monster Hunter Rise in Jan. I agree they should've launched more first party games but seriously can't even get through anything longer than 8 hours at the moment haha.

@Fenbops
I’m not disappointed as I can’t be anymore disappointed in Xbox this year than I already am.

Yeah, a couple of first party teasers would have been nice.
There's a few 3rd party choices announced and interesting, but a few exclusives to draw more people to the platform never hurts.

Even Xbox have acknowledged its been a disappointing year for releases, so some glimmer of hope before years end would have been nice for the faithful.

@GunValkyrian
That was my prediction July 2022.
Redfall before end of June 2023
Forza September 2023
Starfield November 2023
Probably hence the no show at the Game awards.
If the games are top end AAA, then it’s a good exclusive release schedule being fair.

A little story, Christmas shopping last weekend with bro and Dad. Went into Game UK. one of their bigger stores in sports direct.
Wondered around, I ended up in the PS5 area.
Dad said how come PS5 has got this whole massive area to itself compared to xbox.
It was rumoured in the summer that xbox was losing area and shelf space in shops and there it is in practice.
This area must have been 3 times the size and very prominent and promoting.

@Dezzy70 you are not wrong but don’t forget Xbox are predominately digital now. It’s had an effect.

Xbox practically had a 0 presence in the show. Meanwhile Playstation winning almost every award, showing new DLC, showing some exclusive content. 2 years have now gone by and if you look at the state of the console, you could never think that this company owns 23 first party studios. There is a huge lack of First Party games.

@Fenbops
I agree and that probably is more the future.
But for now mums and dads and youngsters are walking around Game UK and other shops.
And the PS5 areas and presence is big PR.

@Dezzy70 yep the visual is quite bad when you walk into a store. 80% PlayStation and Nintendo.

Very disappointed by lack of any first party MS content.
My guess is they are holding out for their own show, wanting to do MS yearly announcements event. Wouldn't surprise me, MS has seen what works and copied it before (with great success).
Would be poor form move though, as they buddied with Geoff while it made sense for them, and this year just ignored his show completely. We'll have to wait and see I guess.

@Dezzy70 let's be honest not many gamers or people in general have used GAME for years and video games in general have long since lost their high street presence. Supermarkets either don't even have them or have greatly reduced their selections, GAME has disappeared into a poor sports shop. Xbox for a while has been squeezed out of even these limited spaces which makes sense as they focus on a digital and subscription based future

@carlos82
Yes you are correct, but there was still many in the shop looking around and queuing up to pay for things.
Microsoft seem to think that their vision for the future, which is probably correct can do for the here and now, when it can’t.
Then they are gonna turn up in the future and think all will jump to Xbox, when you have to be current now to build that future platform.

So the loss in the shops now will currently make them those momentum and general public will forget about Xbox.

They need to work the shops and PR now to stay relevant now and then bring the future in.

@themightyant
Xbox baffle you, they have been baffling me since the release of the series consoles.

My philosophy now is let them get on with it, succeed or fail, I will enjoy my PS5 and Switch AAA exclusives and if Xbox turn up with some big AAA I will have a little look.

Talk about make your console seem less in the general publics eyes. It must be a new trendy tactic called reverse PR. 😂😂😂

@Dezzy70 even online I think they have an issue with visibilityat times, my 6 year old watches random things on YouTube and whether it's through adverts or some games various YouTubers are playing he's aware of many games that he hasn't seen me play. He even links them to various platforms by how they played them or the advert logo, every time he mentions one to me or recognises one when I'm with him he only mentions Playstation or Nintendo even though I own all 3 and he's played on them all.

We see it with reviews as the majority of the time multiplatform games are often reviewed on Playstation and no showing things like the VGA won't help

@NEStalgia All signs point to this generation continuing until 2027 or 2028. We are still a good 5-6 years away from the end of the generation. Output from buying Bethesda is already hitting series consoles in a couple of months with Starfield and Redfall. The internal studios will also have their releases coming up soon. When the ABK deal goes through, Xbox will probably completely dwarf PlayStation from 2025 onwards. I don't see this generation as being written off yet.

Side note, I swear if Starfield was a PS exclusive the entire internet would have never shut up about it. People always treat Sony's output better than that of Xbox and with more support and kindness.

Xbox says this, Xbox says that.

Xbox is full of crap like always.

@BrilliantBill if Starfield was a ps5 exclusive, it would be out by now.

@carlos82
Been saying this for months.
It’s like Microsoft think they can be missing in action from the things you mentioned and PR etc.
Then flick a switch and be relevant again.
Unfortunately they are going to get a lesson in visibility, PR, momentum and staying relevant.

They used to know how to do it, in the 360 days.
Let them get on with it and fail in some way.
And then use twisted PR like 10 million players have played on Starfield. Well of course they have, they just downloaded it on game pass for sort of free and had a look, you dum arses.

@BrilliantBill
Of course people treat Sony game announcements with more pleasure and warmth.
Because they released some of the best IP in the world on the PS4 and before and are doing so on the PS5.

Xbox have blown hot air since almost the Xbox one days and are continuing to do so since the series consoles released.
You have to release the games, they have to be of top end AAA quality and you have to advertise and build PR and momentum.

c'mon guysh. We got controller hoodies. You guysh are greedy

Xbox is my third-party games console, so I really didn't miss any of the major exclusives. That being said, a release date for Starfield wouldn't upset me in the slightest.

@armondo36 People are forgetting the days Sony announced The Last Guardian on PS3 and shipped it on PS4. It is an extreme example but I don't think your statement is generally a valid assumption.

@Dezzy70 Xbox's output during the X1 era was sparse but still included one of the best FPS and best third-person shooters I have played in a long time (Infinite and Gears 5) released. You are also totally ignoring Forza Horizon basically ruling the racing genre with several great games. There is no doubt that Sony is doing a great job. But people enjoy selectively choosing what releases matter and what releases don't.

Well as it turns out Microsoft apparently isn't allowed to have first party exclusives without Sony starting a lawsuit.

It's way past the time when they need to show solid details instead of telling us to wait it will be great.

2022 from my point of view has been a mostly disappointing experience in terms of Xbox 1st party games. My most played games in 2022 are all 3rd party games.

2023 really needs to step it up several gears and once they get that momentum it needs to keep going.

They need a show in Jan or Feb to show what's coming in 2023. Waiting for June definitely isn't okay

Xbox first-party support just flatout sucks. No wonder Playstation has been in the lead for the last 8 years.

@BrilliantBill
Have always said and praised FH5 as the best AAA series x has for sure.
It’s definitely not enough though.

What the hell happened to Xbox? From 2001 to 2013 they were consistently releasing good games but ever since Xbox One and Phil Spencer taking over, they've been struggling to release first party exclusives and are relying on Game Pass. With 23 studios you'd think we'd be getting a lot of exclusives but unfortunately no.

@jrt87 You are not alone. My series X is a gamepass machine only, even 3rd parties I buy elswhere because I prefer the controller. Only ever bought forza dlc, Ive never spent anything else.
Thats a shame as I prefer to support all players in the industry, but with anything I cant get elsewhere put on gp for 'free', I cant see that ever changing.

You know things are bad when Ryan is tweeting stuff like this, he is very loyal. Me resubbing to GamePass was dependent on seeing some release dates or announcements last night so I guess they’ve lost me for a bit.

I have had enough this generation of Xbox no real big first party games coming out no announcements no certainanty and will be be released. I’m sorry to say I have turned Xbox series x off Uganda switch to PS5 this generation. Don’t shoot I love playing games.

FTC, this and prices.

ooofff. Looking at the awards Nintendo and Sony were having, and MS didn't even compete. Non existent.

I only recently got a Series S and haven’t had a non Nintendo console since PS2. Between old games I’ve missed and new third party cross platform games I’m finding all the games a bit overwhelming. It’s not just an Xbox issue though, there were definitely some very dry years for the Switch and the third party games aren’t there to fill the gap.

I'm used to this from Microsoft. "We have big plans.............. next year" says Microsoft every year, since 2015.

@stinkyx As much as I hated reading your comment, you are spot on.

Exactly the reason why I still haven't invested in a series X, I'm continually on the fence. I have the money ready, but until a see some kind of line up for 2023 there isn't any need to upgrade my one x. From the original Xbox to 360, those days were fantastic and I don't regret investing my money into those systems. Even the one I took a gamble and invested, but it's just been downhill.

Microsoft should submit this as proof to the FTC they don't have a monopoly.

@BrilliantBill think about the fact that you had to go ALL THE WAY back to the Ps3 era lol. Cmon man.

Always nice to see the dweebs get their panties in a twist....they didn't show some gameplay from a game I already know is coming or they didn't announce a game that is years away ...which I will also complain about the fact they shouldn't show games that are so far off boo hoo

@armondo36 sure, hence why garbage ragnarok dlc took 4.5 years and 9 studios to develop that copy and paste garbage, same as horizon popping trash, gran trashimo ps2.5 edition, last of us return of the remake remaster, trash as usual. Free on pc always anyway.

@BrilliantBill That's because Sony makes 1st party games that are award contenders while Xbox studios like 343 waste a year getting Halo: Infinite to where it should have been with launch and creating stuff for battle passes. Looks like HFW is going to have a DLC expansion about a year after release. Where's new Halo Infinite single player stuff? Sony put out 2 of their big franchises this year, one of which would have been GOTY, if not for a little generational phenomenon called Elden Ring. I don't know who is responsible for directly managing xbox's 1st party studios, but they are not doind a good job.

Why are the comments on these “news” pieces always filled with generic-name no-avatar commenters trashtalking Xbox?

@Romans12 Yeah, it sucks to say! Having an Xbox honestly feels like having a Playstation that doesn't play exclusives. And then like 3 times every 5 years we get a good first party game, but otherwise it's stuff that feels "cheap" just so it can be free on Game Pass. I'd rather pay $60 or $70 every year for a new exclusive AAA title and $10/mo for Xbox Live than this, TBH.

@Kaloudz It said December 31st 2023, pretty much 6 months timed exclusivity but don't forget that a similar thing happened with FF7 Remake (Intergrade had 6 months exclusivity followed by 6 months Epic Game Store exclusivity, followed by Steam release and still no sign of Xbox release).

@StylesT I feel like Zapp would never make such a logical assessment. Are you sure you're not secretly Kif?

Xbox as always letting down their fans, can't wait for Aaron Greenberg to get fired

@fox99 look, we can be salty and bash Sony if it makes us feel better, but the gact is, the games you noted got released. On time. And were well received. Ask yourself what you get out of defending Microsoft? I love my xbox but I've had it lol

If anything this makes them look worse to the regulators. Buying up studios and publishers with nothing to show just shows the total mismanagement happening at Xbox for quite some time.

So far for this generation Xbox has failed to wow or entice me with their console/ecosystem.
Increasing game prices to match Sony and other publisher's/developers with absolutely nothing to show? When are people going to see through Phil Spencer and hold him accountable and stop treating him like some kind of messiah of gaming?

Also, eerie how the article regarding Phil lying to the regulators about the Bethesda buyout is absent from this site.....

Yes , I was disappointed.
I do think Xbox have a lot planned considering a pretty quiet 2022.
I'd like to know how soon is soon before we see anything beyond what we already know.
Could they at least give us an estimated date for these unannounced games?
Need some positive XBox news after price increases , lack of 1st party games and negative Activision merger news this week.

In Phil I trust.

@HKK24 Funny that Phil and Sarah Bond were there, yet showed nothing new. Nor did they present. Maybe they got free tickets since it was in the Microsoft Theater.

@BrilliantBill Problem is even if the deal is done in 2025 and new hardware is in 2027, it will take years once MS has the reigns to make anything new with Activision. They'll have been running the same old CoD mill and losing staff for years by then.

It wasn't always that way with PS exclusives. Even in the PS3 era it was pretty niche and not "the best" in gaming. Who talks about inFamous, Heavenly Sword, Folklore, etc. much? Even LBP...sackboy gets kind of back seat all the time. Resistance was popular, so there's that. Which they killed. Uncharted was popular enough. Somehow TLOU landing right when Walking Dead was peak changed the dynamics.

This whole "Sony exclusives 4 teh bestest!" thing started with PS4 really. TLOU1 really but that was months before PS4. It's the awkward addon effect from the PS4 being the "onlyest" console for a long generation, the weird tribal fanbase it developed (a lot of which were the former 360 tribal fanbase), and and TLOU setting Sony into embracing it's motion picture business model into video games. It combined into this whole mindest of Sony games automatically being the best.

Combine that with MS having major missteps..... And the fact that gamers were weirdly tribal and argumentative before twitterbook made everyone that way....

@Nic-Noc20th-C I thought the positive news after the price increases was that there aren't any new first party games so your spending will not increase? Xbox is busting inflation!

@theduckofdeath I felt the same way, especially getting toward the end of the show with no Xbox content when the camera would pan to Phil… I know inside he’s got to be beyond frustrated with the output at Xbox but I also think he probably takes some solace in the fact that it’s almost over…. Still has to hurt watching your chief competitor get nomination after nomination and win award after award with nothing on the Xbox side at all.

@GADG3Tx87 ???

Do you really think the games will never release? Or that Phil Spencer himself makes the games? Or that they actually had nothing to show? Those studios (and publishers) are self-contained.

Sony released cross-platform sequels this year, because it takes increasing time and effort to develop games. They buy up exclusivity from third parties to fill in the gaps. That is the reality.

And for the record, the CMA has made it abundantly clear that they are ignorant of the videogame industry. The FTC isn't far behind. Their goal is to make a name for themselves. If the FTC doesn't object or block deals, what are they really doing? Besides wasting tax payers' money.

wait for E3 I think

@Zucaritas Stop. He hasn't done anything to warrant a termination. Greenie definitely stays.

@fox99 Bro you need a hug? Relax. I like Xbox like the next guy, but I ain't bout to d ride them when they f up. Say what you want about Sony's exclusives, but at least they're releasing AND they're critically acclaimed. You sound salty to be honest.

@HKK24 He has to be frustrated about the Starfield and Redfall delays, along with the FTC suit yesterday. That put a big gap in Xbox 1st party releases.

Xbox took their foot off the gas going into XB1 era and it is still hurting them. They could have released a couple more series along side the usual three. Instead Fable got cancelled, Scalebound got cancelled, a AAA game was cancelled so the Coalition could take over Gears, and Crackdown took forever in development and wasn't worth it.

Xbox needed higher output, more studios, and more titles. I think Microsoft cut off Xbox's allowance for a while. Now it looks like the suddenly received their inheritance.

@Rafie maybe that's why? He's the chief of marketing on Xbox and does nothing, wasting time on dumb fridges instead of putting out trailers for the games, you never see a commercial for Xbox while PS put their ads everywhere

@theduckofdeath
Phil Spencer is the head of Xbox and makes the decisions and has mismanaged it for the last couple of years. He should be held accountable for the lack of games despite for several years of false promises of "we've got things coming" only to deliver the same message each year yet people blindly defend him. Like you're doing here.

Do you think he's just a figurehead and not directly involved?

And you mention Sony? The go to excuse or comparison around here. Third party games? Yeah Xbox has them too so no excuse. Where are the first parties promised for years now? Atleast Sony has released several this generation while Xbox has been practically absent. Again.

And yeah, the FTC may file a complaint but that doesn't excuse the fact that Phil Spencer lied about Bethesda which is one of the reasons for the scrutiny.

@GADG3Tx87 whoa whoa whoa, that’s a little harsh…. Even this year that has not seen major tentpole releases has still seen SOME first party output, granted they are a bit more niche games. This is not a kayak though this is the titanic, it takes time turn and to right almost a decade of mistakes that honestly started toward the end of the 360 generation. They are doing that now…. Now if 2023 comes and goes with nothing to show for the last few years of work then yeah, sign me up for the eat a plate of barbed wire pasta party you’re throwing right now. Imagine for a second that you don’t meet a deadline at work and then your team starts to call you a liar who makes false promises, was that your intent or did you just miss… sheesh, let’s put on our perspective glasses for a sec here. Hold Xbox accountable but don’t vilify them man

@HKK24
Phil Spencer has been the head of Xbox for 10 years now so people can't use the excuse of "he's fixing the mess". Say what you want about Don Mattrick but atleast there were great games during his tenure. I still feel very underwhelmed by the Xbox One generation and this one is so far not feeling any better.

And it's not Don Mattrick's fault any more.

@theduckofdeath agreed except I think they slowed things down toward the end of the 360… I think Steve Ballmer really did not see the value in Microsoft’s gaming endeavors and was really content keeping the division on a short leash…. It sucks because he later retired and no longer has to be concerned with it all….

@GADG3Tx87 If Starfield is heralded are you going to attribute that to Microsoft? No.

If Starfield fails, are you going to attribute that to Microsoft. Hell, yes.

Spencer is not micromanaging these studios. His Sony counterpart is not micromanaging their studios.

I mention Sony third party games that are not on Xbox. The ones they paid to keep off of Xbox. You know, like FFXVI, FFVII Part 2, Forspoken just next year. FFVII Remake, Deathloop, and GW: Tokyo. Nioh 1, 2, Nier Automata, SFV before that. Just a sample. High-profile games that fill in the gaps when 1st party releases are few and far between.

CMA or Europe reportedly claim that Xbox told them Bethesda new games would be multi-platform. I call ***** on that. These guys don't know their Marios from their Luigis. Why on Earth would XBox not take most Bethesda titles exclusive to Xbox platforms (consoles/PC/Cloud).

CoD and some of the ubiquitous ABK stuff is a different story because a) Xbox already a ton of exclusives lined up after adding Bethesda b) Xbox is a business and they plan to make that $69 billion back rapidly. Microsoft cannot manufacture or sell enough Xboxes to replace Playstations, so might as well keep the machine rolling and rake in the dough. Losing CoD is not Sony's fear and we all know it.

@GADG3Tx87 Phil Spencer actually took over in 2014, which while close, does not make ten years. Also, from there, how long does it take to redraw the plans and then develop a game? 4-5 years??? Didn’t we get Gears, Forza, Halo, exponential growth in Xbox Studios stables in that time? Would I have liked more? ABSOLUTELY! But if your boss gives you a $100 dollars and says throw an office party, you’d better be damn sure you’re catered by McDonalds that evening. Let’s hold people accountable but let’s not be unreasonable here.

@HKK24 Yes. Things seemed to slow down in the last year or so of 360.

Ballmer/MS were pretty frugal as they are running a business. As soon as Mech Assault 2 didn't hit the sales target, it was canned and the studio with it. Those guys didn't have enough conviction in Xbox. They spent a lot of money, but didn't want to do what was necessary.

Microsoft should have been expanding and instead they contracted. They worked closely with some studios and let others acquire them. Maybe that is an over-simplification in a multi-console environment where they were not the market leader.

Now Microsoft has opened their pocket book, Sony fanatics are panicking, like the guy here.

@theduckofdeath
Phil Spencer's exact words prior to the Bethesda acquisition was "Bethesda games will release on rival consoles on a case by case basis" then when the ink had dried it was "Bethesda games will release where GamePass exists" he lied about "rivaling consoles since PlayStation and Switch are consoles without GamePass.

And Sony gets third party exclusives? Yeah very little. What about GamePass with an average of 300 games on it at one time with 90% being third party? Can't make those kind of excuses.

As for Starfield and such those games were in development long before aquisitions but still all been delayed.

And what about the so called "initiative?" The world's first AAAA studio according to Phil dreamt up in 2016? Where are they and these supposed AAAA games?

See through him.

@GADG3Tx87 so I’m no longer sure if you’re making good faith arguments here…. The initiative launched in 2018, we’re four years on from that. I’m not sure what AAA games you know of recently that were developed in that time frame. Ragnarok MAY BE being the exception but also probably not as they essentially built everything off of the first game from 2018… They also needed to hire and plan… what am I missing here?

I also don’t think you’re serious in comparing third party games from game pass, which are also on Sony consoles, to third party exclusives that Sony pays for, or about there being very little of them. This one is VERY easy to disprove.

Also, Bethesda games HAVE released on other platforms following the acquisition of Zenimax. Are they to release EVERY game into eternity on every platform henceforth? Would you? Would Sony?(From example no) How does that strengthen their platform? Why purchase studios in the first place? Please tell us more….

@NEStalgia You raise a lot of interesting and valid points.

However I think one important aspect about Xbox's intention from the start of the whole Series console era, has been to just increase their reach, not necessarily trying to achieve the same status as that of Sony. By reach I mean, Microsoft tries to compete in areas where Sony is not actively present in, back when they started releasing their games for PC, Sony wasn't releasing theirs on PC. Then when they started gamepass Sony wasn't active in the area of subscription services and they joined later. Now Microsoft's focus on exclusives and games is also not creating something that beats God of War in GOTY nominations (not necessarily, it would be a nice bonus, however). But their focus was again on an area that Sony wasn't active in, like console-exclusive FPS shooter (with Halo Infinite) or arcade racer (Forza Horizon series). Gaming fans always want a full on our tribe vs. their tribe confrontation, while Xbox generally tries to go where Sony hasn't conquered yet. Not winning land back from Sony, so to say.

@theduckofdeath man, I remember watching all of this go down, and just thinking wow, they are blowing it right now…. I think you’re exactly right, the likes of BioWare should have long ago been an Xbox studio but they missed the opportunity big time…. I’m really hoping there’s still time to make this the best Xbox generation yet. We’ll see

"And Sony gets third party exclusives? Yeah very little."

That is flat-out false.

"What about GamePass with an average of 300 games on it at one time with 90% being third party? Can't make those kind of excuses."

Those are not exclusives. You can buy them on Xbox, or Playstation, or PC, or pay for Game Pass. If a game is exclusive to Game Pass it is for 3 months. Not 2+ years (FFVII Parts 1 & 2, Forspoken).

"As for Starfield and such those games were in development long before aquisitions but still all been delayed."

Yes. What are you trying to say here?

"And what about the so called "initiative?" The world's first AAAA studio according to Phil dreamt up in 2016? Where are they and these supposed AAAA games?"

I'm sure that couldn't have been a type-o. No way. 🙄

I don't know who you have in mind to replace Spencer that would magically solve all of Xbox's delays. The bigger question is why you are arguing these flawed points. I have serious doubts you are a "disgruntled Xbox fan."

@BrilliantBill
Appreciate your post and agree with much of it, but I do just need to correct one thing. Sony were the first with a subscription game service and ps now was long before game pass. Obviously gp took it to a new level, but it was Sony who did it first.
Few people seem to realise this... 😁

@Titntin IIRC, PS Plus was the first service that handed out some games each month, then Xbox Live Gold added the same service. But in terms of a service with a large library of accessible games GamePass came first, then PS offered more PS Plus tiers to compete with it. But technically without day 1 releases in PS Plus. The exact idea of Gamepass is still unrivalled.

@BrilliantBill Definitely true, although as @tintin pointed out, PS Now was around before Game Pass, and was modernized and changed heavily to compete with Game Pass after GP launched, where prior it was expensive and only offered streaming, after GP launched the price was drastically cut, the catalog expanded, and included downloadable games. Which, supports MS's claim that they're increasing competition. Their competition in subscriptions actively forced Sony to offer a better consumer value and product in turn. It never was a 1:1 competitor, but they improved their product as a direct response to competition from MS.

PS Now launched with PS4 or shortly after ,but it was an expensive, anemic streaming service. Technically it was ahead of its time. It was ignored. It only became viable after GP launched and they retooled it to offer downloads and massively cut the price making it the cheaper option with the larger (but older) library. The recent merge of Now into Plus tiers was mostly a marketing attempt to breathe new life into it (and stealthily raise prices a bit, but it's still cheaper than GP, but without day 1 games.)

@BrilliantBill have to admit Sony’s output is better. They make better games and more of them. I think the problem with Starfield is we just don’t know. It sounds very optimistic, will they pull it off an release a AAA game??? Maybe, maybe not. If it were a Sony owned dev making it i think people would be more confident.

@BrilliantBill you need better research mate. Ps now started in 2014 and ive been subbed to it since then. Game pass didnt start till 2017.
Sony were the first to launch a sub service of games, but theirs relied on streaming till 2018 when you could download and install games like today.
Game pass did not come first and thats a varifiable fact.

@jordan1992 It is the game from people that made Skyrim and Fallout 4, both of them highly rated by critics, and Skyrim has been selling for more than a decade IIRC. It is from a very well-established developer.

@Titntin You are right. I didn't know that PS Now was more than a streaming service, I assumed it was only streaming. Game pass did not come first and that's a verifiable fact but Either way, the first service that made the idea of subscription relevant and big is GamePass. Even if PS Now did it first. A bit like how iPhone wasn't the first touchscreen phone but was the one that made it big.

@BrilliantBill yup gp took the idea and did it better.
I still use and enjoy both services, gp has newer titles, ps has a lot more (over 700), but no day 1s.

Sorry Xbox you left a really bad taste in my mouth by not providing any updates or showing any new games last night. But it’s okay, I haven’t played on my Xbox in a good while. My PS5 has been getting all the attention lately and that’s how it’s going to be until you decide to get your head outta your backside.

I thought maybe xbox learned a valuable lesson with Xbox one...a video game console is made or broken by its GAMES. and if you're going to compete, you have to have games that are only on your console.

I mean... It not like Sony showed anything really either. They just announced release dates for PC games. Sure Death Stranding 2 was officially announced, but tbh I consider Kojima separate from Sony.

It's very disappointing and after the year they had, they should have shown something. Redfall release date, some new reveals.

It's a shame really, we seem to say the same thing every year

Five or six years of "any day now."

Love how all the acquisitions will pay huge dividends in 2028.

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I dont care i have plenty to play on gamepass and more next year. when they come i probably wont have time to play them immediately anyway

Xbox will either smash 2023 with top end AAA quality games, good advertising and PR, and get more gamers etc on the Xbox eco system.

Or, it will be all hot air and lower quality AAA games, and just trundle along with its current fan base.

PS, my fellow USA Xbox gamers.
November 2022 Xbox UK second best selling console.
USA November 2022 in third place, come on the UK supporting you companies product better than you gamers.

Come on USA you have let PS5 win four NPDs in the last four months.
We don’t let that happen in the UK.
You need to self promote and get friends and family on board.

I’m having a promote Xbox day, so let’s get on it.
Nothing bad to say about Xbox today.
Go buy one now 🎄🎄🎄⛄️⛄️⛄️

@FatalBubbles I just extended my subscription to Gamepass for 3 years just last week.. 🤣
So I'm all in, now just hoping things improve.
It's good that alot if fans are complaining about Microsofts output.
Hopefully it pushes them to raise their game..
2023 needs to be a year that we finally see the fruits for all these dev acquisitions take effect. (It's about time 😏)

@Sebatrox
I don’t it’s fact you posted the results.
I was on about for the whole of month November 2022.
Where Xbox did a very good second place in the UK. But third in the USA NPD results and saying our fellow USA gamers that they should go get behind Xbox and their company like UK have.

@Sebatrox
Actually Xbox best result for Black Friday week was EUROPE which is always a tough sell for Xbox. Apart from UK where we seem to buy all three consoles about equally, similar to the USA.
As where the rest of Europe depending on country seem to always favour one console over a full year.
I think Spain really like Switch
Germany really like PS5
UK all three mainly equal now a days.

@Sebatrox
I have nothing against Xbox the platform
I just think the higher ups could do better with advertising, PR and communication and promotion of up and coming Xbox games for 2023, just like the others have done.
For example they could have done more at the game awards for promotion of Xbox AAA games coming first half of 2023.
I’m fully behind the Xbox and the product and eco system, I just wish the Xbox higher ups seemed to be with better planned promotions.

@Sebatrox
GPU is ok for me, Lego Star Wars and high on life
But I’ve been with Xbox since day one original and payed and played the games I wanted to, like all the gears of war games. Thats why I keep on about new AAA games for GPU.

As for sales Xbox did good but I’m going to be honest in the UK Xbox did very well, there is a little but, series s was heavily discounted at £190 and series x at £420 which did create a series x sales spike. It’s all good news, but I’m not getting carried away because of those big discounts and until we get those big AAA games in 2023.
Sometimes, not that I can tell Phil and the gang, they need some prodding and telling, of course they not listening to little me, but I feel I’ve done my bit and had my moan to try to help Xbox.

@BANJO I use the MS rewards program so I’ve got a lot of points stashed (150K) up so I’ll sub when they release some stuff I’m into. Absolutely nothing wrong with being subbed at all, just didn’t want to spend the points when there weren’t things I wanted to play.

Like he said timing is everything and you missed bad on this occasion, you left your fans in the unknown , all you had to do is at least give us something like a couple release date or extended gameplay of some of your upcoming games not just a gamepass promo reel.

whoever watched TGA expecting Xbox to show new exclusives has the IQ of a snail lol Xbox is being heavily reviewed and accused by regulators of making games exclusive. they will not do what they're being accused of lol there will be no new reveals till the ABK deal closes

Personally I didn't mind it that much. Xbox could have shown a few of their upcoming games but we have already seen all of the nearly here games. Would this have been the 3rd or 4th trailer for Redfall?

I think xbox has learned their lesson about promising a release date in this new era of delayed games. Hardly anyone notices that almost all of nintendo's and sony's games have been delayed too because they hold off announcing release dates until they are more sure of them. Xbox knows that even an additional month delay for Starfield or Redwall would look terrible for them and the game. I think we see a short clip on social media with a release date 2 months away.

As usual, I understand why I switched to Playstation full time.

@BRUTALSAM there’s no problem with thrm releasing exclusive games! The problem is them using their huge wallet to buy up already huge, established games that are currently multi platform an making them exclusive.

@Sebatrox but Xbox is far easier to get hold of. Kinda like comparing sales results of Big Macs and rocking horse poo!!

@Sebatrox you will do, it’s true. Especially now. Ya can walk in a store an get a Series X, Series S have been in stores over a year. PS5 is still a hassle to find.

@Sebatrox in my country, England, you can buy Series X in store, Series S has been in stores since 2021. PS5 comes in to stores but sells out. You have to drop on. If you can buy PS5 easily why would ya not buy them an sell on Ebay for £50 profit??

@BANJO you extended Game Pass subs to 3 years? So you bought another year?

Ppl complaining on reveal... that's to long to wait wth.
Ppl complaining on no reveal... wth we waited so long.

@jordan1992 Don't know where abouts in the UK you are based but where I am it's been quite easy to get both an Xbox and a PS, the last few months, which is a good sign.

I suspect early next year we won't be having this discussion for PS about stock given they seem to be improving supply

@TheAshCohen09 yeah, it’s def improved. I got my PS5 on release so only going off wat i’ve been told. One mate got one last week in store but he had to pay a deposit about 8 days before. I’m in South Yorkshire, few mile from York.

@Sebatrox ya don’t have to. I assume you care about money???

@Sebatrox Just buy ya self one then. Playstation has the best games!!

WHO EVER RUNS MS ADVERTISEMENMT FOR XBOX DIVISON NEEDS TO BE FIRED... they have no clue how to build hype or any positive news for the brand..... its like they have someone who hates xbox there trying to kill the system.....honestly feel like the last two gens MS is trying to kill the xbox by making it a joke with no games.... feels like they only care about gamepass and nothing else at all...

@jordan1992 cause 50 isnt worth the headache of selling something on ebay.....at least not here in the states...and chances are youd end up losing money being ps5s arent the hardest to find...

@jordan1992 Yes, extended till 2025 end as it stands, now just under the 3 years..

@Blessed_Koz but they are the hardest to find, that’s the point. Much easier than 6-12 month ago but still hardest.