@PushButtons Wii was a different kettle of fish aimed a much wider and diverse audience. It’s like comparing apples and pears. Nintendo aims at Nintendo fans. It always will. And that’s why it remains successful.
@PushButtons I’m playing games I want to play on the go. I loved the OG Switch and am happy with the upgrade to Switch 2. I still play other games as well. Gaming is about what the gamers feels happy with.
@Fiendish-Beaver he has said he supports devs quite a few times yet just seems to sack them all these days. He talks of how bright the Xbox future is , yet it’s clearly in total chaos, interminable chaos.
@FraserG It just all seems very extreme. I don’t see how realistically, no matter income from other places, Xbox can sustain itself in the future. It seems clear that those at the top of Microsoft are looking to pull the plug.
@FraserG It’s a bad day for gaming. But you always act with integrity and care. I just feel that this is one step too far from Xbox and one that will kill off the brand forever.
It’s a sad day but whilst I will walk away from Xbox, I won’t walk away from people and sites that will need our support more than ever after today.
Xbox is a name now. I play plenty of games on my IPad Pro via cloud and I’m happy with that. I can choose the majority of what I want to play and when and that’s great for accessibility in my book.
2026 will see the continuation of the handhelds tbh but I could see holiday 2026 as well for a new ‘console.’ However. I can’t see that it will be a new Xbox console as such. It will be an XPC or something like that. It will be a PC with Xbox branding - much like the Rog Ally we have coming - and if it has multiple storefronts, it’s certainly won’t and can’t be seen as an Xbox console. It will carry the Xbox name at best.
I play Xbox on my IpadPro and that’s my Xbox. Xbox as a stand alone console is already dead. As a brand and as a name - it’s going to be fine and if they keep Game Pass, it will keep being in the pounds for Microsoft
I think it’s a fair point being made and I will be honest - if a game comes on Game Pass I will play it and hopefully complete it but it’s unlikely I will go out and buy the game after that, unless it’s extra special. I know that is considered by some to be wrong, but it’s how it is on a tight budget.
Xbox should be paying devs on the number of additional subs it brings in and also on player numbers for said game.
The issue for devs is that the exposure Game Pass gives is brilliant, but it will canabalise sales sadly so there is a huge catch 22 that needs resolving.
Looks cool but the price is going to be crazy. If Switch 2 is £450 , these will be £600 at least. Which is not unreasonable but tbh, I can’t see them being huge successes.
Not exactly a huge surprise but not many are buying Xboxes so this will just bring the current gen of Xbox hardware to its end even quicker.
Xbox is a cloud company. Either accept it or don’t. Of course they will offer some hardware, but cloud and multi platform is what they are now and will grow into even more in the future.
I totally agree with everything that you have said here @Fraser_G I feel a bit disappointed that Nintendo are essentially bringing loads of old third party games that most will already have anyway. Whilst game price increases were expected, I think they are far too high for many people.
I feel Nintendo are being incredibly greedy and anti gamer tbh.
It’s already Xbox who are and will continue to struggle in terms of a console. I have sold my Xbox Series X and now have a PS5 but still have my GPU sub and use the cloud via my GTech Cloud. It runs at 1080p but it never stutters so it does what I need it to.
I heavily suspect that Xbox will focus on the handheld market anyway with an Xbox 1st party handheld but will also allow numerous 3rd party handhelds as well with Xbox OS.
For Xbox, it will be about the number of active players and that will include PS5 and what comes next.
Nintendo is a strange one. If the next Switch is just a minor upgrade, I would be surprised if it gets anywhere close the current models success.
PlayStation will lead the way still , Nintendo as well and Xbox in terms of hardware will be a very distant 3rd. That said, in terms of money made , Xbox will potentially obliterate the competition with their games on every other system.
I still have an GPU sub but just play through my Gcloud on the TV and sold my Xbox for a PS5 for my physical games. Xbox are literally going 3rd party and will make their own streaming handhelds and there will be 3 party ones as well.
Essentially, my G Cloud is my Xbox now. But I just have no reason for my Xbox itself really.
It’s sad and I do get why they are going all in on cloud and multi format, but zero exclusives will only reduce console sales for Xbox next gen. They will be worse than this.
I love Xbox but the just think they are going away from what their core gamers really want.
This show isn’t about gaming. It’s just a vehicle to push Geoff Keighley’s ego. Last year was abysmal. Presenters stumbling over the autocue and often not even getting words out.
The audience applauded quietly and no one laughed at any of the attempted jokes.
It’s time this awful yearly debacle was laid to rest.
It is quite odd how in the preview , Pure Xbox said this was going to be a cracker and any worries were layed to rest.
It does seem weird to say that and then do a review that says the preview was basically a pile of rubbish. The two just don’t correlate or make sense at all.
I suspect looking at Pure Xbox numbers , maybe they see an end coming for the site as happened before.
It just doesn’t add up. All seems very fishy. Pushing the drive to the Push Square site as they make more money from that clearly.
I think even Fraser said not long ago that they focus more on Game Pass articles now because it gets more clicks.
It didn’t hurt sale but PS still sold more. Of course , Xbox will make mega money on this but it shows that more people would rather play on PS and pay for it than on Xbox. When will Spencer wake up?
@BacklogBrad I really doubt that. Nadella is in charge. Spencer just pops up to say what he is told to say. Nadella wants Microsoft Gaming not Xbox. I have argued for a long time that is not the case but it seems to be becoming even more obvious who is pulling all the strings. Spencer is a dead duck. Nothing more than a puppet.
@BacklogBrad because eventually Xbox won’t be a box and all games will be on other platforms. Phil keeps saying they will make more consoles but that needs to come from Nadella who is in full control now and he clearly wants a 3rd party publishing future, not an Xbox future. Spencer and Bond are not even close to being in charge any more.
@Dalamar73 Even with Indy there is no interest with Xbox anymore , not as a console sadly. I’ve been arguing on the positives but they are diminishing daily right now.
@BacklogBrad Xbox will only succeed with a handheld if it is native and comes out on next 12 months. Any longer and it will be far too late. Far too late. We have already seen with Flight Sim 24 that cloud is going to break easily and people won’t put up with that. They just won’t.
Xbox is just throwing in the towel on hardware. I have often argued that the cloud and streaming on all devices options are good but if it’s at the cost of a console , who is going to make games for Xbox? And if they don’t make them, they might now allow them to be streamed and the whole thing unravels very quickly.
I am not jumping ship yet by any means but if things continue it looks as bad as they do for Xbox , I will have little choice.
How can Xbox win when it hardly has any 1st party titles to win with anymore. I keep telling myself that Xbox won’t go full on 3rd party but as each day gets more bad news about Xbox, it just seems that it is starting to become in inevitable and once that happens , 3rd parties won’t have an Xbox to make games for and that will be that.
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Re: Xbox Series S Compared To Switch 2 In Hogwarts Legacy Analysis, And The Results Are Surprising
@PushButtons Wii was a different kettle of fish aimed a much wider and diverse audience. It’s like comparing apples and pears.
Nintendo aims at Nintendo fans. It always will. And that’s why it remains successful.
Re: Xbox Series S Compared To Switch 2 In Hogwarts Legacy Analysis, And The Results Are Surprising
@PushButtons I’m playing games I want to play on the go. I loved the OG Switch and am happy with the upgrade to Switch 2. I still play other games as well.
Gaming is about what the gamers feels happy with.
Re: Xbox Series S Compared To Switch 2 In Hogwarts Legacy Analysis, And The Results Are Surprising
How is this surprising? A handheld vs a home console. It’s not surprising at all.
Re: Xbox Series S Compared To Switch 2 In Hogwarts Legacy Analysis, And The Results Are Surprising
Not sure why this is an article tbh. I can’t take my Series S with me - well I can - but 2 different machines
Re: Phil Spencer Isn't Retiring Anytime Soon, Says Xbox In Response To Rumour
@Fiendish-Beaver he has said he supports devs quite a few times yet just seems to sack them all these days. He talks of how bright the Xbox future is , yet it’s clearly in total chaos, interminable chaos.
Re: Xbox's Matt Booty Issues Statement On Layoffs And Game Cancellations
@FraserG It just all seems very extreme. I don’t see how realistically, no matter income from other places, Xbox can sustain itself in the future.
It seems clear that those at the top of Microsoft are looking to pull the plug.
Re: Xbox's Matt Booty Issues Statement On Layoffs And Game Cancellations
@FraserG Has this all come out of the blue? I had heard rumours of some lay offs but this all seems so much bigger and so much worse than I excepted.
Re: Xbox's Matt Booty Issues Statement On Layoffs And Game Cancellations
@FraserG It’s a bad day for gaming. But you always act with integrity and care. I just feel that this is one step too far from Xbox and one that will kill off the brand forever.
It’s a sad day but whilst I will walk away from Xbox, I won’t walk away from people and sites that will need our support more than ever after today.
And I mean that genuinely.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Could Step Down After Next-Gen Console Launch
@awp69 He’s a liar, a con man and a disgrace to gaming.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Could Step Down After Next-Gen Console Launch
Good riddance. Phil Spencer is an abhorrent man. And he has no place in gaming.
Re: Xbox's Matt Booty Issues Statement On Layoffs And Game Cancellations
@FraserG I am appalled at this news and it’s the final straw. I have cancelled every single thing that I have associated with Xbox.
Phil Spencer should be fired. Booty and Bond.
I will keep following this site because I always have, but this a step too far. Xbox have lost all moral conscience and no longer deserve support.
It’s clear that Game Pass is great in many ways, but Xbox no longer care about gamers, developers and gaming in general.
Re: Xbox Officially Adds Steam Integration Via New PC App Feature
Xbox is a name now. I play plenty of games on my IPad Pro via cloud and I’m happy with that. I can choose the majority of what I want to play and when and that’s great for accessibility in my book.
Re: Poll: When Do You Think Xbox's Next-Gen Console Is Coming Out?
2026 will see the continuation of the handhelds tbh but I could see holiday 2026 as well for a new ‘console.’
However. I can’t see that it will be a new Xbox console as such. It will be an XPC or something like that. It will be a PC with Xbox branding - much like the Rog Ally we have coming - and if it has multiple storefronts, it’s certainly won’t and can’t be seen as an Xbox console. It will carry the Xbox name at best.
I play Xbox on my IpadPro and that’s my Xbox. Xbox as a stand alone console is already dead. As a brand and as a name - it’s going to be fine and if they keep Game Pass, it will keep being in the pounds for Microsoft
Re: ROG Xbox Ally Gets Price & Release Date Info In 'Exclusive' Report
I’ll stick with GE Force Now and my IPad Pro thanks. Everything runs brilliantly that way and I’ll take my Switch 2 on the road.
Re: Developer Reveals Surprisingly Critical Feedback After Launching On Xbox Game Pass
I think it’s a fair point being made and I will be honest - if a game comes on Game Pass I will play it and hopefully complete it but it’s unlikely I will go out and buy the game after that, unless it’s extra special. I know that is considered by some to be wrong, but it’s how it is on a tight budget.
Xbox should be paying devs on the number of additional subs it brings in and also on player numbers for said game.
The issue for devs is that the exposure Game Pass gives is brilliant, but it will canabalise sales sadly so there is a huge catch 22 that needs resolving.
Re: Xbox Handheld Is Called 'ROG Xbox Ally', Releases Holiday 2025
Looks cool but the price is going to be crazy. If Switch 2 is £450 , these will be £600 at least. Which is not unreasonable but tbh, I can’t see them being huge successes.
Re: Talking Point: Switch 2 Owners, Should Xbox Embrace Nintendo's New System?
Indiana Jones, Forza, COD for a start.
Re: Xbox Seems To Have Officially Renamed Its Platform For PC Games
Xbox PC is Xbox’s future. We know that. And I have no issue with it at all.
Re: UFL Continues To Evolve With Free Xbox Perk & Multiple New Features
This game is laughably bad
Re: Reaction: $80 Game Prices Are Ridiculous, Adding Even More Value To Xbox Game Pass
Which is exactly why Xbox are doing this. To make more people take out the subs. It’s as simple as that.
Re: Xbox Is Raising The Price Of Consoles, Games And Accessories
Not exactly a huge surprise but not many are buying Xboxes so this will just bring the current gen of Xbox hardware to its end even quicker.
Xbox is a cloud company. Either accept it or don’t. Of course they will offer some hardware, but cloud and multi platform is what they are now and will grow into even more in the future.
Re: Five Ways The Switch 2 Reveal Has Been A Huge Win For Xbox
I totally agree with everything that you have said here @Fraser_G
I feel a bit disappointed that Nintendo are essentially bringing loads of old third party games that most will already have anyway.
Whilst game price increases were expected, I think they are far too high for many people.
I feel Nintendo are being incredibly greedy and anti gamer tbh.
Re: Xbox Hardware Declines But 'Content & Services' Grows In FY25 Q2 Earnings Report
But overall that means it’s an overall decline. Surely?
Re: Xbox Developer Direct 2025: Event Date, Start Times & Where To Watch The Showcase
I wonder which games will be announced to be going to PS5 and Switch 2? I bet at least one game will be announced to be going fully multi platform.
Re: Microsoft Has Announced More Layoffs In Its Gaming Division, Says New Report
Be no one left soon. Sad that people are again losing jobs in the gaming industry due to greed and AI,
Re: Rumour: Leaker Names Two More Xbox Games Possibly Going Multiplatform In 2025
Switch 2 seems the perfect place to put Xbox games now. Halo going multi platform though is Xbox becoming 3rd party confirmed. Forza will be next.
Re: Xbox & PlayStation Face 'Significant Risk' With Their Next Consoles, Predicts Research Firm
It’s already Xbox who are and will continue to struggle in terms of a console. I have sold my Xbox Series X and now have a PS5 but still have my GPU sub and use the cloud via my GTech Cloud. It runs at 1080p but it never stutters so it does what I need it to.
I heavily suspect that Xbox will focus on the handheld market anyway with an Xbox 1st party handheld but will also allow numerous 3rd party handhelds as well with Xbox OS.
For Xbox, it will be about the number of active players and that will include PS5 and what comes next.
Nintendo is a strange one. If the next Switch is just a minor upgrade, I would be surprised if it gets anywhere close the current models success.
PlayStation will lead the way still , Nintendo as well and Xbox in terms of hardware will be a very distant 3rd. That said, in terms of money made , Xbox will potentially obliterate the competition with their games on every other system.
Re: Xbox Apparently Thinks Making Hellblade 2 Exclusive Was 'A Mistake'
I still have an GPU sub but just play through my Gcloud on the TV and sold my Xbox for a PS5 for my physical games.
Xbox are literally going 3rd party and will make their own streaming handhelds and there will be 3 party ones as well.
Essentially, my G Cloud is my Xbox now. But I just have no reason for my Xbox itself really.
It’s sad and I do get why they are going all in on cloud and multi format, but zero exclusives will only reduce console sales for Xbox next gen. They will be worse than this.
I love Xbox but the just think they are going away from what their core gamers really want.
Re: The Game Awards 2024: Date, Start Times & Everything You Need To Know
This show isn’t about gaming. It’s just a vehicle to push Geoff Keighley’s ego. Last year was abysmal. Presenters stumbling over the autocue and often not even getting words out.
The audience applauded quietly and no one laughed at any of the attempted jokes.
It’s time this awful yearly debacle was laid to rest.
Re: Xbox Partners With UK Darts Star Luke Littler, 'Community Rewards' Up For Grabs
This was the huge news that Xbox were trading? Seriously?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (December 7-8)
Have been playing Forza Motorsport a lot again recently and keep trying UFL but it is laughably bad.
Re: Early Rumours Hint At Major Planned Reveals For The Game Awards 2024
I’m hoping that maybe Geoff will not be there and we can actually have something a little less like the pantomime the show has become.
Last year was abysmal. The presenters stumbling over autocues was just embarrassing
Re: Review: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle (Xbox) - A MachineGames Misfire
@FraserG Fair points and comments and no offence intended.
Re: Review: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle (Xbox) - A MachineGames Misfire
It is quite odd how in the preview , Pure Xbox said this was going to be a cracker and any worries were layed to rest.
It does seem weird to say that and then do a review that says the preview was basically a pile of rubbish. The two just don’t correlate or make sense at all.
I suspect looking at Pure Xbox numbers , maybe they see an end coming for the site as happened before.
It just doesn’t add up. All seems very fishy. Pushing the drive to the Push Square site as they make more money from that clearly.
I think even Fraser said not long ago that they focus more on Game Pass articles now because it gets more clicks.
Re: Review: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle (Xbox) - A MachineGames Misfire
So one of the lowest scores for the game comes from Pure Xbox! 🤦♂️
Re: UFL Has Launched In 'Early Access' On Xbox, And It's Pretty Fun So Far
Played this game and it is utterly laughable. It’s so, so bad.
Re: Call Of Duty Becomes Most-Played Game On Xbox After Incredible Black Ops 6 Launch
It is a superb game. Top stuff. Love the zombies most. Just pure, unadulterated fun.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Didn't Hurt Overall Black Ops 6 Sales, Says Analyst
It didn’t hurt sale but PS still sold more. Of course , Xbox will make mega money on this but it shows that more people would rather play on PS and pay for it than on Xbox. When will Spencer wake up?
Re: Xbox Has A Quiet Night As Golden Joystick 2024 Winners Are Revealed
@BacklogBrad I really doubt that. Nadella is in charge. Spencer just pops up to say what he is told to say. Nadella wants Microsoft Gaming not Xbox. I have argued for a long time that is not the case but it seems to be becoming even more obvious who is pulling all the strings. Spencer is a dead duck. Nothing more than a puppet.
Re: Xbox Has A Quiet Night As Golden Joystick 2024 Winners Are Revealed
@BacklogBrad because eventually Xbox won’t be a box and all games will be on other platforms. Phil keeps saying they will make more consoles but that needs to come from Nadella who is in full control now and he clearly wants a 3rd party publishing future, not an Xbox future. Spencer and Bond are not even close to being in charge any more.
Re: Review: Stalker 2 (Xbox) - GSC Game World's Long-Awaited Sequel Is A Mess
@Dalamar73 sadly yes.
Re: Review: Stalker 2 (Xbox) - GSC Game World's Long-Awaited Sequel Is A Mess
Sold a million copies in 2 days mind
Re: Review: Stalker 2 (Xbox) - GSC Game World's Long-Awaited Sequel Is A Mess
@Dalamar73 Even with Indy there is no interest with Xbox anymore , not as a console sadly. I’ve been arguing on the positives but they are diminishing daily right now.
Re: Review: Stalker 2 (Xbox) - GSC Game World's Long-Awaited Sequel Is A Mess
@Stamnoso Fair point actually. Just feel so deflated with Xbox now
Re: Xbox Has A Quiet Night As Golden Joystick 2024 Winners Are Revealed
@BacklogBrad I am now it’s working although I have a feeling it will make the move to PS5 very soon.
Re: Review: Stalker 2 (Xbox) - GSC Game World's Long-Awaited Sequel Is A Mess
Wow! That is brutal!!! Absolutely brutal. So another rubbish Xbox release. Just when I thought Xbox couldn’t get any worse right now…. It does.
Re: Xbox Has A Quiet Night As Golden Joystick 2024 Winners Are Revealed
@BacklogBrad Xbox will only succeed with a handheld if it is native and comes out on next 12 months. Any longer and it will be far too late. Far too late. We have already seen with Flight Sim 24 that cloud is going to break easily and people won’t put up with that. They just won’t.
Re: Xbox Has A Quiet Night As Golden Joystick 2024 Winners Are Revealed
Xbox is just throwing in the towel on hardware. I have often argued that the cloud and streaming on all devices options are good but if it’s at the cost of a console , who is going to make games for Xbox? And if they don’t make them, they might now allow them to be streamed and the whole thing unravels very quickly.
I am not jumping ship yet by any means but if things continue it looks as bad as they do for Xbox , I will have little choice.
Re: Xbox Has A Quiet Night As Golden Joystick 2024 Winners Are Revealed
How can Xbox win when it hardly has any 1st party titles to win with anymore.
I keep telling myself that Xbox won’t go full on 3rd party but as each day gets more bad news about Xbox, it just seems that it is starting to become in inevitable and once that happens , 3rd parties won’t have an Xbox to make games for and that will be that.
Can anyone give me some glimmers of hope?
Re: Xbox Introduces 'Stream Your Own Game' Feature With 50 Titles Supported At Launch
Bit of an odd list to start with. I wonder how often we will see more games added. Is this Xbox finally going full Stadia?
You can access the games straight from the app now as well. It didn’t seem to appear at first but it’s there on a banner. @FraserG