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Hey so I can't actually find this game on the console storefront (xbox). Am i doing something wrong or have Microsoft quietly hidden this game? Just thought it would be available for preorder but even a search turns up nothing.

Edit: lol i see I'm clearly off topic nevermind.

@NEStalgia yeah I hear ya. and not much of an endorsement for Outriders there, eesh.

@gollumb82 lol had to google Razer Kishi. My phone isn't nearly cool enough for that (it's essentially a cheap Walmart phone) but man is that thing ingenious. I really just need to get things up and running on my living room computer as it's hooked up to my big screen anyway but just haven't done it.

@NEStalgia okay okay, some valid points but for whatever reason I'm still not sold. Is it weird that I have some kind of strange affinity for playing games from my machine? Also I kind of like the idea of having to download things to play them as it provides like a interest threshold if that makes sense. Where I'm only likely to invest the time downloading a game if it's really all that interesting to me instead of "surfing" through different games out of sheer boredom, like doom scrolling through Twitter not because you want to but because there's an insatiable void in your life lol. Okay I'm being jokingly dramatic but still.

Maybe I'm just old-fashioned. I've only just recently gotten used to buying digital on a regular basis so, baby steps, but I'll probably get there.

@NEStalgia definitely see where you're coming from with ants. those tiny ones get in anywhere and everywhere. somewhat similar situation with weevils but that's another one of those region specific things.

I guess I don't get it. Is downloading that much of an impediment? If it takes that long, then you probably have poor internet which means you're probably going to have an equally poor streaming experience. And if you have data caps (like me) you still have to mind how much you stream.

Is there any upside I'm not seeing? I'm not knocking it but I genuinely don't get the appeal.

Edit: I guess it saves space locally so that's something.

@NEStalgia I will say it is quite remarkable where you find their dead bodies after hitting them with a conventional swatter. Sometimes it doesn't make any sense.

And yeah I can see how regions may differ but I'm just not one to tolerate a fly in my living space, let alone multiple. And I do feel the southern U.S. has it's fair share in the summer months. Then again I've lived in all manner of dwellings and some are certainly more porous than others so I can see being in a situation where it's a bit futile, trying to keep nature out. Mosquitos come to mind here. Oof.

@John117 @GamingFan4Lyf tbf you're probably not seeing any bugs because you're there. Most creepy crawlers are a shy lot. Their thing is kinda not being seen.

Flys are another story though and I don't know who tf is just sitting there while maggots with wings glide around their living room, bed room, wherever. But that's just me.

@PJOReilly Kudos to you on the sub header. Subtle, but not unnoticed.

Yeah, that kinda sucks but I don't know that a redesign is in order. Used to live near a field and constantly found dead rodents in my car's engine bay for example. It's just one of those things. Life... Uh... finds a way.

@VenomousAlbino Admittedly well said but I'm still a little more torn on where the creator's responsibility ends and the consumer's begins. But at the end of the day adding a content warning never hurt anyone. It's just hard not to get frustrated at the constant furor over this or that because it didn't handle the audience with kid gloves. One gets compassion fatigue after a while.

@VenomousAlbino "Should somebody who was abused as a child not be entitled to be warned about said content?"

But why?

Reminds me how a pop singer recently got upset about sweets in a frozen yogurt shop because she claimed it triggered her eating disorder. Like, why is the onus on everyone else to cater to whatever your particular baggage is?

I'm a lefty but I'll never understand this mentality. Also if hearing about the thing is so triggering then doesn't a trigger warning itself serve as a trigger?

A game called Boyfriend Dungeon has dark themes? What a remarkable twist.

Anyway I can't imagine what the day to day life must be like for the eternally offended. It must be exhausting.

@The_New_Butler I'm more of a Push Square member than anything else so my apologies on behalf of the bad apples.

Anyway, I'd echo everything you said about this game. I never picked it up because I was too hesitant to buy it (having been burned one too many times by bad games that look good) so Game Pass really came in handy here.

Lol, I literally just finished this game for the first time like a week ago.

And yeah, headphones are basically a requirement.

Looking forward to it.

@LtSarge idk, obviously it's in competition with Microsoft/Xbox/gamepass in terms of where people give their attention but in real world terms they seem like two different markets to me. And I stress the "to me" part.

And I find it hard to imagine Sony, crazy as they admittedly are sometimes, would jettison a service with millions of subscribers to start a convoluted subscription gaming service with Netflix. Like, I don't want Netflix but I wouldn't mind a revamped PS Now. I think they must know that's the prevailing sentiment.

@LtSarge In its current form this really doesn't compete with GamePass. Mobile games are not the same as console/pc games. And mobile games are already available outside of gamepass so no one currently signed up is going to drop their subscription because Netflix added a few throwaway titles in an attempt to add perceived value to their service.

Also PlayStation has a GamePass-like service in PS Now. It's inferior in every way but it exists so there's really no need to launch some new service from the ground up.

Anyway I don't see there being a Sony-Netflix team up personally.

Yeah, this is sounding more and more like some very casual gamer offerings. Like Zynga but included with a steaming service instead of a social media account. Honestly, I don't see this going anywhere but who knows.

@gingataisen I hear you and I'm not settng out to be stubborn but buying Housemarque is far from random and so his choice of words seem valid in response to someone probing him about initiating an arms race.

Because the arms race query really does insinuate that Sony might be starting to just go off buying anything they can afford. Which doesn't really seem the case.

@LtSarge
Shoring up studios you already worked with, even in response to Microsoft's recent acquisition, doesn't make this an arms race. I think that's all Hulst is saying here.

@Tharsman
And, idk, his statements don't seem that inflammatory to me. I mean, it seems pretty common to compliment the folks you just acquired, or else why would you have acquired them. It's like a professional courtesy to be all "these guys are the best in the business." Also Sony is selective though. So selective that this acquisition is but a tiny ripple in the grand scheme of things. So selective that there's no way to perceive this as arms race behavior because it's peanuts compared to Bethesda

I'm one of the few that doesn't care that Microsoft bought Zenimax so I'm not here to criticize that but I certainly wouldn't call the acquisition selective.

@LtSarge does it really matter what the reason is if these were basically Sony studios anyway? It's a response to Xbox, it's not a response... who cares? Nothing has really changed on the Sony side. They just put a ring on it.

Can we get a moratorium on one word titles with the "fall" suffix? That's all I ask.

Arkham City but Injustice 2 a close second.

This just reminds me of the Brian Regan bit on refrigerator shopping.

@Blessed_Koz there are no official sales figures, now let me proceed to tell you how well it is selling in the most matter of fact way possible.

@GunValkyrie probably because under the Zenimax umbrella rests a wide array of franchises that have historically all been multiplatform. Comparisons to Naughty Dog, which is the example most frequently trotted out over here, really don't track.

But I have both consoles this gen so it's really whatever.

Seems like there are more comments saying how upset PS fanboys are, than there are actual comments from upset PS fanboys. But eh.

In any case, I really don't see the sense in getting worked up over an apology of all things.

This makes sense except for the fact that developing for Microsoft requires development on quite a few different platforms* so I'm kinda not getting the - 'it allows us to focus' argument.

Still, it is what it is. Not too terribly worried personally.

*Or, at least more development than exclusively for PS I mean. Clearly that would be the simplest, most focused approach.

@StylesT but like, if music is that integral to your life how do you not have Spotify premium? (Or a comparable service) Covering you for 4 months doesn't solve too many problems if you're a music lover imo.

Edit: a discount, as opposed to a trial, would make way more sense.

This is dumb. Beyond dumb. Money went into designing it so just idk... sell it maybe.

@Craigthulu Yeah silly to be upset that they made a thing but won't sell it to you. I mean, it's only a for profit company... why would they want to sell stuff? Better to give it away to people who don't do anything for a living.

@NEStalgia Agency over the story I mean. You're attempting to get the Princess back from Bowser (usually). You're locked into that path the same way you're locked into a path in Little Nightmares or Halo or frankly any game that isn't a choice based game. And most aren't.

Because while that wasn't your specific complaint, that seemed to be the argument against narrative based games in the article:

"That the player doesn't have the ability to greatly influence or determine the outcome of the narrative might prove anathema to many players and how they view their role in the video game experience."

I mean that's most every game. Adding amazingly rendered cut scenes shouldn't negate everything else a game has on offer.

To be clear I don't want every game to be narrative driven but I also don't see anything wrong with their existence, or prevalence. At the end of the day there's hardly a strict definition to what a video game is.

Also kinda feel like this should have been a poll. Y'all do those over here right?

@NEStalgia Fwiw I don't recall ever playing a Mario game because I could sway the outcome. True there's barely any story to speak of but clearly a lack of agency doesn't need to be seen as a detriment. And including a rich, character driven story doesn't need to be the evil that you paint it to be either.

Or take Metal Gear as another example. Cut scenes for days but calling it an interactive movie is disingenuous.

@lokozar @BAMozzy i don't really have a response but read your posts and didn't want them to go unacknowledged, since you took time to reply after all.

@lokozar yeah I imagined this was the case for PC but in my head it didn't make sense for consoles to have, say, the Pro in mind when setting out to make a game if at the end of the day sales are gonna come from base consoles but as is typically the case, I'm evidently wrong.

But still, it's hard not to feel like the base last gen consoles are holding Cyberpunk back in that resources are being spent trying to make that game run well on consoles that might have no business running it. Extreme and unique example but eh, it's there.

@BAMozzy nice write up, thanks. Didn't realize the differences between X and S were so small. Which, only owning the S, kinda makes me feel better.

@lokozar if I had to guess I'd say it's because in any given situation that lowest common denominator is going to be where the bulk of your player base is. And I suspect underneath all the creative decisions there's going to be a running cost/benefit analysis that skews development toward this majority.

Edit: but I reiterate, this is just a guess.

@Nightcrawler71 by the time supply catches up it'll be the holidays which will just throw it all out of wack again. My prediction is still Feb-Mar 2022 before you can just walk in a store and grab one any time.

Seems like it could become a hindrance later on but I can't imagine it being much of one at the moment.