@NEStalgia Ah yes, the Play of Ustation with hits like The Last of Us on racetracks, The Last of Us DualSense showcase, The Last of Us with a magic brush, The Last of Us the game engine, your friendly neighbourhood The Last of Us, The Last of Us: A Big Adventure, The Last of Us with wacky space weapons & The Last of Us Part 1. 😂
@NeoRatt Nintendo was a newcomer after the North American video game crash of 1983, Sony wasn't a gaming company when they wanted to push CDs as the new medium & the OG Xbox was a reactionary move to counter the dominance of the PS2.
Why just let these 3 companies control the gaming market? You never know what a newcomer, no matter how big or small they are, might bring onto the market.
@NEStalgia I'm pretty sure both the PS3 & Xbox One were equally disastrous at their respective launches. However unlike the Xbox One, the PS3 was able to catch up with the competition & finally edging them out at the very end but it wasn't solely because of the PS3 Super Slim model, they simply had killer exclusives. It also didn't help that Microsoft was pushing hard on Kinect by the time Sony was rebranding the PS3.
The Xbox One never had a chance of catching up, not even coming close to the PS4. It was baffling to see Microsoft leaving their first/second party output at the state they're in throughout the 8th gen. Without those multi billion dollar acquisitions, Game Pass or no, they still would be struggling. And you can even witness the problems of the One seeping well into the Series consoles albeit slowly fading away.
@Tharsman The confusing upgrade policy is more of a short term damage than long term. Cross gen games is part of the transitional phase going into next gen, now current gen.
@LtSarge There's a few reports I've been reading that states Quantic Dream is moving away from being a second party PlayStation studio by publishing on their own. Even if there's an exclusivity deal, at the very least I'm expecting a timed one.
Looking at the price tag & storage availability, I'm glad Sony went with the 3rd party SSD expansion route. Yes Microsoft's implementation is simpler than Sony's but it is not like the upgrading the PS5's SSD is complicated in the first place. Wished Microsoft followed Sony but oh well, there is always next time.
@PhhhCough Haha don't worry, I did not feel attacked in any way. The narrative surrounding this title paints it as a mediocre or meh game when in actuality it is not. It is a good game but Ubisoft needs more work before making this franchise a masterpiece. It even got me emotional at the end which isn't something I expected out of the Watch Dogs franchise.
@PhhhCough Just completed it on my PS4 & I happen to like it. Definitely not a masterpiece but it's a good game, not even close to being as bad as some are portraying it to be.
@LtSarge I actually prefer Sony's approach towards marketing their first/second party stuff despite desperately wanting for more but if they have nothing to show for, they should have keep their events short but sweet instead of it being long & repetitive. At the end of the day, I'm glad the game is positively received by many despite the constant marketing & didn't suffer the same fate as Cyberpunk did which is another title I got sick of hearing about constantly back then.
@LtSarge Of course I don't know you well because that's why I said "I think" and how is loving the Xbox platform calling them out? 😄 I love PlayStation (despite of their shortcomings recently) but I still love seeing what others are doing too. I know sometimes the gaming community can be toxic but I'm always against that. I'm also aware of the over marketing narrative as I stated in my previous comment.
Although I agree with you that Sony isn't forcing people to watch their marketing, as I mentioned in my previous comment, it's just what they constantly see when they tune in to Sony's live State of Plays & PlayStation showcase instead of things they haven't seen yet (still waiting for another gameplay trailer for HFW Sony!) & with Sony keeping their cards very close to their chest recently unlike Microsoft, it's honestly frustrating.
@SplooshDmg @uptownsoul I think Phil did say the Series S was going to be a low volume machine at the start of the generation but will pick up the pace as time progress.
@LtSarge I think you feel that way because of your love towards the Xbox platform mate. Some in the PlayStation community just wants to see more of the things they haven't seen yet especially from Sony's first/second party studios but them being all secretive these days it's just frustrating seeing Sony showing Deathloop multiple times just to fill the gap (or simply because they're legally obliged to promote them as part of the exclusivity deal). Horizon Forbidden West is out on Feb 22 but I only got one gameplay trailer & that's it?! I also got bored when Cyberpunk did the same & some are genuinely skeptical when games get overmarketed and/or overhyped.
There's genuinely people who are excited for this on PlayStation & Deathloop getting all these positive reviews will surely drive up sales for it. I'll probably get one somewhere down the line.
@Widey85 Love your insight mate but I don't see why Xbox doesn't need to have a couple of good superhero games on its platform. Would love to see Microsoft's first party studio develop one or two without acquiring an external studio to accomplish it.
@PullnPray If what you say is true, then why did Phil even bring up the idea of opening Game Pass to others to begin with? Of course they've thought about it already & if they manage to bring Game Pass to other ecosystem, they'll most likely strike a deal with Sony/Nintendo to make sure they don't make sudden U-turns. But the plan didn't pan out was not because Microsoft figured they didn't want to, it's because both Sony & Nintendo won't allow an Xbox service on their console which will eat into their profits.
@PullnPray Okay let me rephrase it. Sales figures aren't a priority for Microsoft anymore, it's just a gateway to Game Pass. The reason they were playing chicken with Sony was because they weren't gonna lose on price like they did at launch with the One. Also, they bothered releasing the Series S was because they wanted the cost of entry to the ecosystem as affordable as possible for a home console & being a digital only one at that means that players are even more reliant on Game Pass.
If consoles sales figures were a priority, programmes like xCloud, Play Anywhere & GamePass for PC won't exist.
@lostfields Well Electronic Arts is a partner, not a competitor like Xbox. Don't have any expectations because its never going to happen. It just doesn't make business to Sony (& Nintendo).
@PullnPray Well they actually do lose money because the less time spent on your services & ecosystem, the less money you will be spending on it too. And as soon as the players realise that they can just ditch the middle man & switch, they just lost a customer which is bad for business. That's why Sony is reluctant on releasing a web browser for the PS5 (they probably never would).
@PullnPray Microsoft does not care about the Series X & S sales figure (I think they made it pretty clear) as they are focused on getting more people to subscribe to Game Pass & retain existing ones. Also, if Sony or Nintendo allows Game Pass on their platforms (which they won't), I'm confident that Microsoft will most likely allow players to download alongside stream them as the infrastructure may not be able to handle the sudden surge in traffic by opening the floodgates from other gaming platforms.
@MaccaMUFC I can't tell if you're joking or not 😆 but what he said does make sense. Game Pass is sustainable for Microsoft because they can rely on other highly profitable revenue streams unlike PlayStation. Even if PlayStation comes up with a Game Pass competitor, it's unlikely to reach the value offered by Game Pass.
Of course it doesn't make sense for them to publish games day one on their own subscription model, but not if it's for Game Pass 😉.
@Rural-Bandit You prayers just got answered. Sony has started rolling out 3rd party SSD expansion support. Also, the guy no longer works at PlayStation. I think it's just his opinion on the matter.
@Doctorwhoooourgh Haha mate, I'm not here to defend Sony. Microsoft deserves credit & my respect for their pro-consumer policies & overall better console/services compared to Sony's. I was just pointing out the disappointment from players left out from the ZeniMax deal is legitimate.
I don't get why people need to pick sides & support/defend your platform of choice no matter what. I love PlayStation but I still can be critical of them for their mistakes & the same for Microsoft even with their pro-consumer policies. That's why I also get called out on PushSquare too.
But as to whom the anger should be directed at, as pointed out by @LtSarge, it's up for debate.
@Doctorwhoooourgh No matter how you try to spin it, millions of players are no longer able to play them on their platform of choice, indefinitely. It does not affect you because you're on the right platform but it does to others.
If Sony decided to purchase Rockstar, I cannot blame millions of angry Xbox players who suddenly finds themselves no longer able to play their favourites on Xbox consoles.
@Doctorwhoooourgh Although I have no love for timed exclusives, it's definitely better than permanent exclusives so yeah I think the anger is justified.
Seeing the game still not having a firm release date, I wonder how the state of the game looks like if it was release alongside the launch of the Series X|S.
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Re: The Devs Behind Burnout Are Creating An Ambitious New Racer For Xbox
Can't we just get a remaster of Burnout 3 instead?
Re: Is Stray Coming To Xbox? Here's Everything We Know So Far
@sjbsixpack I was replying to comment #8 but I now realise it was posted on August 2021 😂
Re: Is Stray Coming To Xbox? Here's Everything We Know So Far
@NEStalgia Ah yes, the Play of Ustation with hits like The Last of Us on racetracks, The Last of Us DualSense showcase, The Last of Us with a magic brush, The Last of Us the game engine, your friendly neighbourhood The Last of Us, The Last of Us: A Big Adventure, The Last of Us with wacky space weapons & The Last of Us Part 1. 😂
Re: PUBG Is Getting Major Next-Gen Overhaul, And Xbox Series X Sounds Impressive
Is there a reason why such a gap exists? It's not like there's a huge performance difference between both consoles anyways.
Re: Xbox's Phil Spencer Celebrates 'Bungie Day', Shares Kind Words For The Studio
@Floki Is Naughty Dog still considered the top dog? Insomniac, Guerilla & Santa Monica might just surpass them.
Re: Digital Foundry Host Says Xbox Series X Wins Most Console Comparisons
More power to Xbox but software sells hardware, it's never the other way around.
Look no further than the PS1, PS2, X360, Wii, PS4 Pro, Switch, etc.
Re: Xbox's PC Game Pass Has Just Launched In Five More Countries
Malaysian here: Finally!
Re: Sony Boss Tells PlayStation Owners To 'Expect More Acquisitions'
@NeoRatt Nintendo was a newcomer after the North American video game crash of 1983, Sony wasn't a gaming company when they wanted to push CDs as the new medium & the OG Xbox was a reactionary move to counter the dominance of the PS2.
Why just let these 3 companies control the gaming market? You never know what a newcomer, no matter how big or small they are, might bring onto the market.
Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Reveals His Thoughts On A PlayStation Game Pass
@Dsswoosh Sony's gaming division breaking sales & revenue record left & right is somehow on a trajectory of going bust.
I smell a delusional fanboy.👃🥴
Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Reveals His Thoughts On A PlayStation Game Pass
@Boldfoxrd Yes, almost everything Sony does in gaming is copied from their rivals. 🙄
They sure forgot to copy the Xbox 360's launch price for the PS3. 😂
Re: Aaron Greenberg Says He 'F***ing Loves' Banned UK Xbox Advert
They could have beaten the PS2 had this aired globally 😂
Re: Don Mattrick Discusses The Failures Of The 2013 Xbox One Launch
@NEStalgia I'm pretty sure both the PS3 & Xbox One were equally disastrous at their respective launches. However unlike the Xbox One, the PS3 was able to catch up with the competition & finally edging them out at the very end but it wasn't solely because of the PS3 Super Slim model, they simply had killer exclusives. It also didn't help that Microsoft was pushing hard on Kinect by the time Sony was rebranding the PS3.
The Xbox One never had a chance of catching up, not even coming close to the PS4. It was baffling to see Microsoft leaving their first/second party output at the state they're in throughout the 8th gen. Without those multi billion dollar acquisitions, Game Pass or no, they still would be struggling. And you can even witness the problems of the One seeping well into the Series consoles albeit slowly fading away.
Re: Don Mattrick Discusses The Failures Of The 2013 Xbox One Launch
@Tharsman The confusing upgrade policy is more of a short term damage than long term. Cross gen games is part of the transitional phase going into next gen, now current gen.
Re: Keanu Reeves Reportedly 'Loved' Cyberpunk 2077, But He Says He Hasn't Played It
Tell me lies
Ain't nothing but a heartache
Re: It Sounds Like Quantic Dream's Star Wars Eclipse Is Still Many Years Away
@LtSarge There's a few reports I've been reading that states Quantic Dream is moving away from being a second party PlayStation studio by publishing on their own. Even if there's an exclusivity deal, at the very least I'm expecting a timed one.
Re: It Sounds Like Quantic Dream's Star Wars Eclipse Is Still Many Years Away
I don't think this is going to be a PlayStation exclusive given that it's a Star Wars IP, Quantic Dream would be foolish. Maybe a timed exclusive.
Re: Best GTA Xbox Games: Our Picks For The Top Grand Theft Auto Titles
Skipped the first 3, too young to remember Vice City 😆, spent countless of my miserable childhood hours in San Andreas, skipped 4, played 5.
San Andreas is definitely my favourite, probably due to nostalgia but I'm glad to revisit the classics soon.
Come to think of it, funny how the GTA franchise is everyone's childhood memory despite having adult content. 🤣
Re: Xbox Reveals New 512GB & 2TB Seagate Expansion Cards For Xbox Series X|S
Looking at the price tag & storage availability, I'm glad Sony went with the 3rd party SSD expansion route. Yes Microsoft's implementation is simpler than Sony's but it is not like the upgrading the PS5's SSD is complicated in the first place. Wished Microsoft followed Sony but oh well, there is always next time.
Re: Xbox Creator Apologises To AMD For Last Minute Awkward Switch To Intel On Original Xbox
Ouch, even I felt the betrayal.
Re: Watch Dogs: Legion's Latest Patch Is 40GB On Xbox Series X, 3GB On PS5
@PhhhCough Haha don't worry, I did not feel attacked in any way. The narrative surrounding this title paints it as a mediocre or meh game when in actuality it is not. It is a good game but Ubisoft needs more work before making this franchise a masterpiece. It even got me emotional at the end which isn't something I expected out of the Watch Dogs franchise.
Re: Watch Dogs: Legion's Latest Patch Is 40GB On Xbox Series X, 3GB On PS5
@PhhhCough Just completed it on my PS4 & I happen to like it. Definitely not a masterpiece but it's a good game, not even close to being as bad as some are portraying it to be.
Re: Xbox Game Studios' Deathloop Becomes One Of The Highest Reviewed PS5 Games Of 2021
@LtSarge I actually prefer Sony's approach towards marketing their first/second party stuff despite desperately wanting for more but if they have nothing to show for, they should have keep their events short but sweet instead of it being long & repetitive. At the end of the day, I'm glad the game is positively received by many despite the constant marketing & didn't suffer the same fate as Cyberpunk did which is another title I got sick of hearing about constantly back then.
Re: Video: 18 Minutes Of The Spider-Man 4 Xbox Game We Sadly Never Got
@Widey85 Damn, don't tease me man. 😆
Re: Xbox Game Studios' Deathloop Becomes One Of The Highest Reviewed PS5 Games Of 2021
@LtSarge Of course I don't know you well because that's why I said "I think" and how is loving the Xbox platform calling them out? 😄 I love PlayStation (despite of their shortcomings recently) but I still love seeing what others are doing too. I know sometimes the gaming community can be toxic but I'm always against that. I'm also aware of the over marketing narrative as I stated in my previous comment.
Although I agree with you that Sony isn't forcing people to watch their marketing, as I mentioned in my previous comment, it's just what they constantly see when they tune in to Sony's live State of Plays & PlayStation showcase instead of things they haven't seen yet (still waiting for another gameplay trailer for HFW Sony!) & with Sony keeping their cards very close to their chest recently unlike Microsoft, it's honestly frustrating.
Re: Xbox Series X Scalping Prices Remain High Whilst PS5 Reportedly Drops 30%
@SplooshDmg @uptownsoul I think Phil did say the Series S was going to be a low volume machine at the start of the generation but will pick up the pace as time progress.
Re: Xbox Game Studios' Deathloop Becomes One Of The Highest Reviewed PS5 Games Of 2021
@LordMonkfish Well it technically is but that's what I thought too. 😆
Re: Xbox Game Studios' Deathloop Becomes One Of The Highest Reviewed PS5 Games Of 2021
@NEStalgia Exactly 😄
Re: Xbox Game Studios' Deathloop Becomes One Of The Highest Reviewed PS5 Games Of 2021
@The_New_Butler Well said my friend.
Re: Xbox Game Studios' Deathloop Becomes One Of The Highest Reviewed PS5 Games Of 2021
@LtSarge I think you feel that way because of your love towards the Xbox platform mate. Some in the PlayStation community just wants to see more of the things they haven't seen yet especially from Sony's first/second party studios but them being all secretive these days it's just frustrating seeing Sony showing Deathloop multiple times just to fill the gap (or simply because they're legally obliged to promote them as part of the exclusivity deal). Horizon Forbidden West is out on Feb 22 but I only got one gameplay trailer & that's it?! I also got bored when Cyberpunk did the same & some are genuinely skeptical when games get overmarketed and/or overhyped.
There's genuinely people who are excited for this on PlayStation & Deathloop getting all these positive reviews will surely drive up sales for it. I'll probably get one somewhere down the line.
Re: Video: 18 Minutes Of The Spider-Man 4 Xbox Game We Sadly Never Got
@Widey85 Love your insight mate but I don't see why Xbox doesn't need to have a couple of good superhero games on its platform. Would love to see Microsoft's first party studio develop one or two without acquiring an external studio to accomplish it.
Re: Phil Spencer Suggests Nintendo & PlayStation 'Don't Want' To Support Xbox Game Pass
@PullnPray If what you say is true, then why did Phil even bring up the idea of opening Game Pass to others to begin with? Of course they've thought about it already & if they manage to bring Game Pass to other ecosystem, they'll most likely strike a deal with Sony/Nintendo to make sure they don't make sudden U-turns. But the plan didn't pan out was not because Microsoft figured they didn't want to, it's because both Sony & Nintendo won't allow an Xbox service on their console which will eat into their profits.
Re: Phil Spencer Suggests Nintendo & PlayStation 'Don't Want' To Support Xbox Game Pass
@PullnPray Okay let me rephrase it. Sales figures aren't a priority for Microsoft anymore, it's just a gateway to Game Pass. The reason they were playing chicken with Sony was because they weren't gonna lose on price like they did at launch with the One. Also, they bothered releasing the Series S was because they wanted the cost of entry to the ecosystem as affordable as possible for a home console & being a digital only one at that means that players are even more reliant on Game Pass.
If consoles sales figures were a priority, programmes like xCloud, Play Anywhere & GamePass for PC won't exist.
Re: Phil Spencer Suggests Nintendo & PlayStation 'Don't Want' To Support Xbox Game Pass
@lostfields Well Electronic Arts is a partner, not a competitor like Xbox. Don't have any expectations because its never going to happen. It just doesn't make business to Sony (& Nintendo).
Re: Phil Spencer Suggests Nintendo & PlayStation 'Don't Want' To Support Xbox Game Pass
@PullnPray Well they actually do lose money because the less time spent on your services & ecosystem, the less money you will be spending on it too. And as soon as the players realise that they can just ditch the middle man & switch, they just lost a customer which is bad for business. That's why Sony is reluctant on releasing a web browser for the PS5 (they probably never would).
Re: Phil Spencer Suggests Nintendo & PlayStation 'Don't Want' To Support Xbox Game Pass
@PullnPray Microsoft does not care about the Series X & S sales figure (I think they made it pretty clear) as they are focused on getting more people to subscribe to Game Pass & retain existing ones. Also, if Sony or Nintendo allows Game Pass on their platforms (which they won't), I'm confident that Microsoft will most likely allow players to download alongside stream them as the infrastructure may not be able to handle the sudden surge in traffic by opening the floodgates from other gaming platforms.
Re: Xbox Wants To 'Do Something Different' To Other Platforms, Explains Phil Spencer
It's good to hear that everyone is doing their own thing instead of copying one another
Re: MLB The Show 21's Xbox Release Appears To Have Been A Major Success For Sony
@Bdbrady Did you just quote from Mark Cerny's The Road to PS5? 😆
Re: MLB The Show 21's Xbox Release Appears To Have Been A Major Success For Sony
@MaccaMUFC I can't tell if you're joking or not 😆 but what he said does make sense. Game Pass is sustainable for Microsoft because they can rely on other highly profitable revenue streams unlike PlayStation. Even if PlayStation comes up with a Game Pass competitor, it's unlikely to reach the value offered by Game Pass.
Of course it doesn't make sense for them to publish games day one on their own subscription model, but not if it's for Game Pass 😉.
Re: Former PlayStation Exec Shares Concerns With Xbox Game Pass Model
@Rural-Bandit You prayers just got answered. Sony has started rolling out 3rd party SSD expansion support. Also, the guy no longer works at PlayStation. I think it's just his opinion on the matter.
Re: Former PlayStation Exec Shares Concerns With Xbox Game Pass Model
@Chaudy The dude is no longer at PlayStation. He mysteriously left a couple years back. I think it is his genuine personal opinion, not Sony's.
Re: Bethesda's Deathloop Will Be A Timed Exclusive On PS5 Until September 2022
@LtSarge 😄, cash go brrr...
Re: Bethesda's Deathloop Will Be A Timed Exclusive On PS5 Until September 2022
@Doctorwhoooourgh Haha mate, I'm not here to defend Sony. Microsoft deserves credit & my respect for their pro-consumer policies & overall better console/services compared to Sony's. I was just pointing out the disappointment from players left out from the ZeniMax deal is legitimate.
I don't get why people need to pick sides & support/defend your platform of choice no matter what. I love PlayStation but I still can be critical of them for their mistakes & the same for Microsoft even with their pro-consumer policies. That's why I also get called out on PushSquare too.
But as to whom the anger should be directed at, as pointed out by @LtSarge, it's up for debate.
Re: Bethesda's Deathloop Will Be A Timed Exclusive On PS5 Until September 2022
@Doctorwhoooourgh No matter how you try to spin it, millions of players are no longer able to play them on their platform of choice, indefinitely. It does not affect you because you're on the right platform but it does to others.
If Sony decided to purchase Rockstar, I cannot blame millions of angry Xbox players who suddenly finds themselves no longer able to play their favourites on Xbox consoles.
Like I said, the anger is justified.
Re: Bethesda's Deathloop Will Be A Timed Exclusive On PS5 Until September 2022
@Doctorwhoooourgh Although I have no love for timed exclusives, it's definitely better than permanent exclusives so yeah I think the anger is justified.
Re: Report Reveals How Microsoft Employee Stole $10 Million Via Xbox Gift Cards
@AgentGuapo Underrated comment right there folks 😂
Re: Xbox Plans To Become A 'Stronger Global Brand' Over The Next Couple Of Years
Both hardware & services are still missing in my country unlike Sony.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Re: Soapbox: Forza Horizon 5 Is Going To Need To Lean Into The Series' Absurdity To Impress Me
I never thought I would seen the names Burnout & Forza Horizon side by side.
If only EA does not own the rights to the Burnout franchise. ðŸ˜
Re: 343 Industries Is 'Very Committed' To Halo Infinite's Holiday Release, Says Phil Spencer
@Senua What I meant was how would it look like if they stuck to their originally planned release date to coincide with the launch of the Series X & S.
Re: 343 Industries Is 'Very Committed' To Halo Infinite's Holiday Release, Says Phil Spencer
Seeing the game still not having a firm release date, I wonder how the state of the game looks like if it was release alongside the launch of the Series X|S.
Re: Xbox Scoops 'Best Presentation' At E3 2021, Forza Horizon 5 Wins 'Most Anticipated Game'
To be honest, Forza Horizon 5 is the only game I'm interested throughout the E3 2021 showcase. And this is coming from a longtime PlayStation player!
Hunting for a PS5 is already bad enough, I'll need to include the Series X as well? 💀