@EvenStephen7 All the consoles have taken a step back when it comes to the all-in-one box. Many streaming apps aren't supported now. Features like Xbox Snap, party mode (watching shows together), OneGuide, picture-in-picture, HDMI TV pass-through were discontinued. Some level of browser support is still available on all consoles but you have to find janky workarounds to make it work. I'd say all the consoles are in a worse place when it comes to an all-in-one device.
@nomither6
A lot of that is giving Xbox credit for inventing things it mostly standardized or popularized. For someone with a Sonic pic, I thought you'd acknowledge everything Dreamcast did first.
Dreamcast already had online multiplayer, matchmaking, messaging/chat, and even voice chat before Xbox Live. PS2 had an optional hard drive before Xbox launched, and PS2 games were installing data from discs to the HDD years before the Xbox 360 added full disc installs. Let's ignore Playstation popularizing dual analog/DualShock controller standard, remote play, share button/system-level capture, and cross-buy/cross-save functionality.
Xbox absolutely deserves credit for making things like a unified friends list, Gamertag, matchmaking, voice, achievements, and HDD-based features feel like standard platform-level features instead of separate game-by-game implementations. But “Xbox gave us all of this” is stretching it. Also, Xbox did CD ripping, not CD burning.
@Markatron84 I liked Nuts & Bolts as a game but not Banjo-Kazooie game. Personally, I feel like it should've either been marketed as a spin-off or just completely reskinned as a new IP.
@xboxjapanfan Even with Mayles, who knows if we'd get a traditional Banjo game? He also worked on Nuts & Bolts. Look how that turned out.
@dreadful the fact that you grouped South of Midnight in with Redfall is mindboggling. It got mostly 7s and 8s and won a few awards. But, please, continue to go on about how bad it was.
People like you are what really sucks about modern gaming.
@Fiendish-Beaver But that's just for you specifically. I only use one USB port on my Xbox and PS5, for my hard drive and controller respectively, so I see no issue with it.
@Banjo- Which is why I hate mergers and acquisitions. And I'm not just talking in gaming. A vast majority just create a crappier company, more consolidated industry, and reduction of jobs.
@Tdx What a wild take. "This is good news! Less games means you won't complain about your backlog anymore! Who cares if people are losing their livelihood!"
A majority of these studios weren't releasing big budget AAA titles. I also like how you threw out "7/10" as if that's suddenly a bad thing. Plenty of great 7/10 games, which is entirely subjective btw.
@Daniel1221 "If the rumoured Xbox disc-to-digital feature comes to fruition, why buy a game digitally"
If Project Helix has no disc drive, how do you propose people would do that? People assume all "next gen" Xbox games will just be PC. The rumor only talks about Series X being able to do it.
@NeoRatt Music and movies haven't gone digital only. You literally mention vinyl. And console games are proprietary, so it's a bad comparison to other media. You don't hear cinemaphiles and audiophiles complaining because they have options. They can even rip their media if they want a digital copy. There's no option to buy different formats of a PS5/Xbox disc. When Sony ends disc manufacturing, no one else can pick it up.
And you really compared physical game collectors to being a flat earther? Really? You can push the "erm, it's only a license" narrative as much as you want, but the fact of the matter is that you can sell, trade, rent discs. It doesn't matter if you don't really "own" it. It's a cop-out argument. I don't get people who are apathetic or outright defending this decision. This will direct all purchases through console storefronts. There's no alternatives to a closed ecosystem. Despite PC going digital, you still have options by way of various storefronts and key sites like Humble.
Your "pros" to digital don't make sense. Steam and PS Store take 30% of each sale, so publishers/developers aren't getting the whole pie.
@CallMeDuraSouka I do wonder if @fatpunkslim was in denial like this when the rumors about Xbox releasing four games on Playstation started circulating. Or if they really believed it would only be 4 games like Phil said.
@ilyn I don't agree with people not caring about lesser known characters. People need a reason to care and the Eternals wasn't it. Look how the movie was received, regardless of how known the characters were beforehand. The Avengers weren't super well known. Characters like Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor were C-tier at best. An even better example is Guardians of the Galaxy, which wasn't known by the general audience at all. Look at it now.
@fatpunkslim Every price increase will get tons of comments. Everyone knows Nintendo and Sony will increase their prices. No one argued they wouldn't. You seriously think Sony would increase the price right before GTA6? That would be an awful move. And theoretical prices? You mean MSRP? Lol
Got it brand new + a free game at Walmart for $350 in 2023. Had no idea I'd be buying the dip. Who knew video game consoles would basically be like the stock market? If only I had this kind of luck with the actual stock market.
@General-Foley Why aren't you interested in the PC side? In theory, this would get rid of all the downsides to PC with all the pros like free online play and mods.
@BacklogBrad @Millionski I think people will buy at the current PS5 price. Sony will try to hold off raising the price before end of the year, so they can grab all those prospective customers who want to buy a PS5 and GTA at launch + Christmas. Sony is advertising GTA more than they've ever done for their first party games. Lol
@oopsiezz What you're saving on Game Pass a month for a year equals the cost of COD. Just rent it from Gamefly, buy/sell it, or wait a year for it to be on Game Pass.
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Re: Xbox Exec Shows Off New Version Of The Blades Dashboard They've Been 'Cooking Up'
@Balaam_ "Professional looking"? It's the UI of a game console. It should be fun. Do you hate the UI of consoles like the Wii U too?
Re: How To Watch This Week's Xbox Indie Showcase, Including Start Times & What To Expect
@Shmoo Interesting pfp. Should I be worried about what's out of frame?
Re: How To Watch This Week's Xbox Indie Showcase, Including Start Times & What To Expect
"I'm only into indie games. You probably haven't heard of Shrek before."
Re: Xbox Denies Landing Exclusive Streaming Deal For GTA 6 At Launch
@ilyn What do they really look like? I didn't know there was only one look for gamer guys and their girlfriends/wives?
Re: Xbox Denies Landing Exclusive Streaming Deal For GTA 6 At Launch
@TrollOfWar So, playing GBA is the first best thing to do in the dark?
Re: New Report Delves Into The History Of Xbox Disc To Digital, And Why PlayStation Can't Copy It
@EvenStephen7 All the consoles have taken a step back when it comes to the all-in-one box. Many streaming apps aren't supported now. Features like Xbox Snap, party mode (watching shows together), OneGuide, picture-in-picture, HDMI TV pass-through were discontinued. Some level of browser support is still available on all consoles but you have to find janky workarounds to make it work. I'd say all the consoles are in a worse place when it comes to an all-in-one device.
Re: New Report Delves Into The History Of Xbox Disc To Digital, And Why PlayStation Can't Copy It
@nomither6
A lot of that is giving Xbox credit for inventing things it mostly standardized or popularized. For someone with a Sonic pic, I thought you'd acknowledge everything Dreamcast did first.
Dreamcast already had online multiplayer, matchmaking, messaging/chat, and even voice chat before Xbox Live. PS2 had an optional hard drive before Xbox launched, and PS2 games were installing data from discs to the HDD years before the Xbox 360 added full disc installs. Let's ignore Playstation popularizing dual analog/DualShock controller standard, remote play, share button/system-level capture, and cross-buy/cross-save functionality.
Xbox absolutely deserves credit for making things like a unified friends list, Gamertag, matchmaking, voice, achievements, and HDD-based features feel like standard platform-level features instead of separate game-by-game implementations. But “Xbox gave us all of this” is stretching it. Also, Xbox did CD ripping, not CD burning.
Re: 'The Entire Supply Chain Is Collapsing' - Xbox Disc Drive Situation Gets More Awkward
@Mr-Cage I'd welcome a shortage of white and black plastic. I want more colorful consoles that aren't limited to special edition.
Also, orgasmic? You should've resisted that.
Re: Not A Good Look For Xbox As Halo: Campaign Evolved Plays Best On PlayStation
@MinervaX76 You have 48GB RAM and 32GB DDR5 RAM? I'm confused. Lol
Re: Xbox Servers Were Down For 20 Hours, But Everything Should Be Working Now
@kanedase7en I love your sarcasm.
Re: 'It's A Franchise We Love' - Toys For Bob Keen To Work With Xbox On Banjo-Kazooie Game
@Markatron84 I liked Nuts & Bolts as a game but not Banjo-Kazooie game. Personally, I feel like it should've either been marketed as a spin-off or just completely reskinned as a new IP.
@xboxjapanfan Even with Mayles, who knows if we'd get a traditional Banjo game? He also worked on Nuts & Bolts. Look how that turned out.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Still Evaluating Whether Project Helix Will Support Physical Discs
@Camble_Refuge You'd buy the games but not console? So, they would just be $50+ displays? Lol
Re: Xbox Announces 3,200 Job Cuts And Four Studio Departures
@InterceptorAlpha So, you're not going to elaborate on what you thought this would be?
Re: Xbox Announces 3,200 Job Cuts And Four Studio Departures
@dreadful the fact that you grouped South of Midnight in with Redfall is mindboggling. It got mostly 7s and 8s and won a few awards. But, please, continue to go on about how bad it was.
People like you are what really sucks about modern gaming.
Re: Xbox Announces 3,200 Job Cuts And Four Studio Departures
@HonestHick It's clear you didn't play these games. I'm guessing you're a gun and ball fan.
Re: Xbox Announces 3,200 Job Cuts And Four Studio Departures
@PartyMarty The worst possible outcome would've been the studios closing down. Lol
Re: Rumour: Xbox Still Evaluating Whether Project Helix Will Support Physical Discs
@Fiendish-Beaver But that's just for you specifically. I only use one USB port on my Xbox and PS5, for my hard drive and controller respectively, so I see no issue with it.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Still Evaluating Whether Project Helix Will Support Physical Discs
That would be some delicious irony if they did that. Make a video exactly like Sony did back in 2013 to add insult to injury.
Re: Xbox Announces 3,200 Job Losses And Four Studio Departures
@Banjo- Which is why I hate mergers and acquisitions. And I'm not just talking in gaming. A vast majority just create a crappier company, more consolidated industry, and reduction of jobs.
Re: Xbox Announces 3,200 Job Losses And Four Studio Departures
@Nall3k I know. I was just pushing back on the "It should lead to better ideas being pitched than Kiln" point.
As to your point...People always complain about too many sequels, prequels, remakes, ports, remasters, but that's what sells, sadly.
Re: Xbox Announces 3,200 Job Losses And Four Studio Departures
@Tdx What a wild take. "This is good news! Less games means you won't complain about your backlog anymore! Who cares if people are losing their livelihood!"
A majority of these studios weren't releasing big budget AAA titles. I also like how you threw out "7/10" as if that's suddenly a bad thing. Plenty of great 7/10 games, which is entirely subjective btw.
Re: Xbox Announces 3,200 Job Losses And Four Studio Departures
@BacklogBrad Kiln is fun though.
Re: Xbox Announces 3,200 Job Losses And Four Studio Departures
@InterceptorAlpha What were you expecting? I'm glad all four studios are not going to be shut down.
Re: Halo Studios Makes A Point Of Highlighting 'Physical Discs' For Campaign Evolved
@Titntin For Xbox games. Switch 1, PS4, and a majority of PS5 discs contain the whole game.
Re: Halo Studios Makes A Point Of Highlighting 'Physical Discs' For Campaign Evolved
@Daniel1221 "If the rumoured Xbox disc-to-digital feature comes to fruition, why buy a game digitally"
If Project Helix has no disc drive, how do you propose people would do that? People assume all "next gen" Xbox games will just be PC. The rumor only talks about Series X being able to do it.
Re: Halo Studios Makes A Point Of Highlighting 'Physical Discs' For Campaign Evolved
@NeoRatt Music and movies haven't gone digital only. You literally mention vinyl. And console games are proprietary, so it's a bad comparison to other media. You don't hear cinemaphiles and audiophiles complaining because they have options. They can even rip their media if they want a digital copy. There's no option to buy different formats of a PS5/Xbox disc. When Sony ends disc manufacturing, no one else can pick it up.
And you really compared physical game collectors to being a flat earther? Really? You can push the "erm, it's only a license" narrative as much as you want, but the fact of the matter is that you can sell, trade, rent discs. It doesn't matter if you don't really "own" it. It's a cop-out argument. I don't get people who are apathetic or outright defending this decision. This will direct all purchases through console storefronts. There's no alternatives to a closed ecosystem. Despite PC going digital, you still have options by way of various storefronts and key sites like Humble.
Your "pros" to digital don't make sense. Steam and PS Store take 30% of each sale, so publishers/developers aren't getting the whole pie.
Re: Report: Xbox Disc-To-Digital Feature Will Allow You To Digitise Your Physical Collection
@oopsiezz Digital is the future? Did you read the article? Physical discs would still be usable, meaning it's still superior. Lol
Re: Marvel's Blade Reportedly In Danger As Xbox Considers Shutting Arkane Studios
@Millionski Yay for more remakes...
And learn from Sony? The ones who keep trying to push live service?
Re: Marvel's Blade Reportedly In Danger As Xbox Considers Shutting Arkane Studios
@CallMeDuraSouka I do wonder if @fatpunkslim was in denial like this when the rumors about Xbox releasing four games on Playstation started circulating. Or if they really believed it would only be 4 games like Phil said.
Re: Marvel's Blade Reportedly In Danger As Xbox Considers Shutting Arkane Studios
@Porridge2215 How do you know he was just a puppet? Is Asha just a puppet too?
Re: Marvel's Blade Reportedly In Danger As Xbox Considers Shutting Arkane Studios
@Friendly Lol. Asha is the one who made Microsoft and Xbox untrustworthy? Not the countless leaders beforehand and Satya Nadella?
Re: Marvel's Blade Reportedly In Danger As Xbox Considers Shutting Arkane Studios
@ilyn I don't agree with people not caring about lesser known characters. People need a reason to care and the Eternals wasn't it. Look how the movie was received, regardless of how known the characters were beforehand. The Avengers weren't super well known. Characters like Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor were C-tier at best. An even better example is Guardians of the Galaxy, which wasn't known by the general audience at all. Look at it now.
Re: Report: Xbox Has No 'Blanket Plans' To End Funding For Third-Party Game Pass Titles
@fatpunkslim Which of those were proven false? None have been confirmed but they certainly haven't been denied. Lol
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
@Eld Any ideas for new hobbies?
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
@fatpunkslim Every price increase will get tons of comments. Everyone knows Nintendo and Sony will increase their prices. No one argued they wouldn't. You seriously think Sony would increase the price right before GTA6? That would be an awful move. And theoretical prices? You mean MSRP? Lol
Re: Poll: How Much Did You Pay For Your Xbox Series X|S Console?
Got it brand new + a free game at Walmart for $350 in 2023. Had no idea I'd be buying the dip. Who knew video game consoles would basically be like the stock market? If only I had this kind of luck with the actual stock market.
Re: Two Fighting Games Have Just Released On Xbox, Including A '90s Tekken Surprise
@bert0503 And 2 and 3 were even more fun!
Re: Two Fighting Games Have Just Released On Xbox, Including A '90s Tekken Surprise
@Sindayl People seem to be hyped about this Tekken 1 release. Lol
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
@General-Foley Why aren't you interested in the PC side? In theory, this would get rid of all the downsides to PC with all the pros like free online play and mods.
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
@BacklogBrad @Millionski I think people will buy at the current PS5 price. Sony will try to hold off raising the price before end of the year, so they can grab all those prospective customers who want to buy a PS5 and GTA at launch + Christmas. Sony is advertising GTA more than they've ever done for their first party games. Lol
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
@shiny-enzo In the US, the Series X is more expensive than the PS5 base model.
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
@Schonks In what country? The base model PS5 is cheaper still. The Series X is now closer to the price of the PS5 Pro than the base model.
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
@MidnightDragonDX Which Microsoft plays a part in with their AI push. It's hilarious.
Re: Talking Point: How Well Do You Expect GTA 6 To Run On Xbox Series X|S?
@Fiendish-Beaver Why not?
Re: Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 4 Launches This October, And It Won't Be On Xbox One
@oopsiezz What you're saving on Game Pass a month for a year equals the cost of COD. Just rent it from Gamefly, buy/sell it, or wait a year for it to be on Game Pass.
Re: Microsoft Changes Game Pass Font To Match New Xbox Logo
@Banjo- All I see is a black box. ☹️
Re: Microsoft Changes Game Pass Font To Match New Xbox Logo
@Skinny-Pete Wdym?
Re: Microsoft Changes Game Pass Font To Match New Xbox Logo
@BacklogBrad It's a great choice. Looks awesome.
Re: Forza Horizon 6 Seemingly Sold Almost 5 Million Copies Before Its Opening Weekend
@Xboxian360 And you think it would've still moved Xbox consoles? Should they stop releasing games on PC like Sony did too?
Re: PSA: Microsoft Is Removing SMS Authentication From Everyone's Xbox Account
What in the world is that Pixar reject in the article thumbnail?