@PhhhCough Um. Nothing has changed. Jim said at the start of the gen first party titles were not sustainable because they wanted blockbuster games. Nothing has changed. They still think the same.
@Rural-Bandit I was joking. People who want the content on the disc would be mad if the disc turns just as a digiral activiation format and the disc does not have content at all. Like H. Infinite.
For me, an always online console is a dealbreaker for me. I rather get a PC (Yes, I would pay more for it just so I can play offline). Then again PC has a lot of bad ports and troubleshooting. It's like they didn't learn from 2013. It's not as bad, but this should be as big of a matter like the $120 price hike gold attempt was.
but you're turning a blind eye. You said it's only one thing that they did. Hell I've mentioned multiple things about them and nobody takes that in consideration. Nobody even mentions Nintendo neither. Those normal people... are rare when it comes to online discussion about gaming. Like on pushquare, purexbox or nintendolife.
Gamers are smart in many ways, but when it comes to emotional attachments to things (And probably people), it's like they have weak points.
Excuse my grammar. Don't even want to bother with it.
Microsoft bought 2. Lets not wish they get yet another one.
My prediction will be that it's between Tencent and Sony and I hope Sony doesn't lose to Tencent like it always does (warframe devs come to mind).
God forbid its EA, the killer of studios. Take two is the lesser evil. Screw Netease, I don't know them. PUBG corp would be interesting. They have that Callisto Protocol game and I believe a south korean take on AAA gaming would be nice.
Some of you guys will get bamboozled when you find out that studios that are purchased won't revive all of their dead IPs and they will still make what makes money.
They will get triggered, but common. You can't really say a company will do something for sure. We have no control over them. They can expect it to be a ps exclusive, but can't get mad if it ends up being an xbox exclusive. Like Kotor.
Yes, finally haha. I think we're ready for a huge huge showcase.
AB: We might see the upcoming COD and maybe a release date for Diablo 4.
Bethesda: Starfield. Maybe Machine games will reveal their Indiana Jones game and iD might tease doom 3, my fav modern FPS. Redfall too.
Xbox Division Studios: I'm expecting gameplay from Coalition, Compulsion, Everwild, Fable, more of Hellblade 2, Forza Motorsport, Perfect Dark, Avowed and State of Decay 3.
Not to mention third party stuff. Want to see Contraband and Stalker 2 too.
@Rural-Bandit Both ori are on switch, right? I get the whole is better to play it on the X, but switch has more appealing exclusives atm (and I don't like them that much, not for me). I was just trying to say as of today. The gap for games is big.
I just think that 3 ips for 3 gens is embarassing. I remember the xbox all stars battle royale memes. Now, Glad they acted quickly and listened.
Returnal was never supposed to be a Ghost or Horizon. It was an indie studio making its triple A game. They did a fine job. Shame that it's difficulty affects their sales, but that ain't changing according to the developer. If $70 is too much, they will reduce to $60 again. Let the market dictate if it's too much. If people like paying $70, well tough love.
I think many people have misunderstood me. All I said is that xbox is outselling ps5 because of supply because it's not outselling it with the games. They wouldn't be beating them with the current released games. I never said xbox will never have the games or anything like that. I said as of today, supply is the only reason. Everyone started jumping on the console war bagon.
We gotta try to be a bit more objective here. Gt7 didn't do more harm than good. It's selling very well. My friends are asking me if they should buy it. It's doing something. Gt sport was worse and it sold over 10m. The rest of the games, well you just don't like, but that doesn't mean neither have really have offered great games. Maybe for you it hasn't, but for me, I would have basically half of the games I have bought this gen without sony games. Ps5 has the clear upperhand with games and I'm being objectively here. Metacritic publisher doesn't mean much. You can put out a 90 rated game and the other can put out 5 85 and the first one would win. It doesn't say the scale of those games either. Doesn't say if they were exclusives (Psychonauts and Deathloop).
Idk why you brought game sales. Microsoft can't even get to 10m with their most famous IP, much less with the others.
Ubisoft wishes it could do what Sony does. Or What Capcom, Rockstar, Fromsoftware does
Yes Xbox is being more "pro consumer" than sony atm, but when it comes to games, as of today, I don't believe anyone who says xbox has as equally good exclusive games. In 2021, yes, equally as good, but I'm counting nov 2020 games and the ones that came this year too for this perspective
@Tharsman what catalogue of exclusives? Lets be honest. For 3 straight gens, the only memorable ips xbox has had are forza, gears and halo. It's still is btw (Today, April 27 of 2022). Starfield will be the start of a change and I am super glad it's turning out to be that way. I'm not saying there isn't demand or a higher demand. I am just saying it beat ps5 because of stock.
I am not really getting into if the exclusives sell consoles. There are multiple factors where having the best exclusives matters a lot. Nintendo is not an exception. It's the clear answer that they matter.
@Royalblues You're the one that had the mienfoo avatar right? Didn't you just try to stir the pot on pushsquare's article about this topic? I'm just saying it's due to stock. Again. Stop jumping to conclusions about how I feel. Consider being ignored.
@Lavalera Not really. They are the whales for those games. I never said anything about upcoming games. I meant as of today and the current sales.
It's the supply like I mentioned above. You already said it's their second console. Yeah. This gen will be a close one. I expect something like 80m for xbox vs a bit over 100m for PS5, but I wish that only happened because xbox released high end games, not because they were cheap and attracted cheap customers. I hope it's not a Netflix vs Cinema theaters kind of situation.
@Rural-Bandit Yes but I'm talking as of right now.
Deathloop, Ghostwire, Miles, HFW, GT7, Ratchet, Returnal, Demon Souls, Sackboy vs Halo, which is dying and FH5 as their "next gen" AAA exclusive offerings.
Like the only explanation for xbox outselling is the supply. Especially when people have their ps4 library and it would make sense for them to get a ps5.
When it's 2024, the conversation will be another one, but as of today. It is only happening because of chip shortages.
It is still surprising me that it's outselling the 360 with a worse selection of games and not having the 1 year advantage vs ps3 during that time, while having the advantage of the ps3 reveal fail.
PS5 really screwed up. They still have the advantage of better games at the moment, but they can't capitalize on that with short stocks. Now when xbox gets its chunk of games, if they're good, sony will have a hard time.
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Re: Sony CFO Says That Game Pass-Style Launches Would Cause Exclusives To 'Deteriorate'
@ShadowofTwilight22
Mjm. Average will be great. Give it time. Some people will wake up from the effect.
"I am tired of ms nickling and diming for everything just because the game is on gamepass, I am going back to the other platform"
Re: Sony CFO Says That Game Pass-Style Launches Would Cause Exclusives To 'Deteriorate'
@ShadowofTwilight22
I call it the gamepass brainwash technique. It uses a lot of chakra (parent company's money).
Re: Sony CFO Says That Game Pass-Style Launches Would Cause Exclusives To 'Deteriorate'
@JayJ They make the best games. Period. It's the most awarded publisher. They feel they need to make that exclusive.
Re: Sony CFO Says That Game Pass-Style Launches Would Cause Exclusives To 'Deteriorate'
@PhhhCough Um. Nothing has changed. Jim said at the start of the gen first party titles were not sustainable because they wanted blockbuster games. Nothing has changed. They still think the same.
Re: Sony CFO Says That Game Pass-Style Launches Would Cause Exclusives To 'Deteriorate'
I'd say. Lets wait for the June's showcase to confirm. Just one more month.
Re: Microsoft Creates Patent That Enables Xbox Discs To Be Converted To Digital
@Rural-Bandit I was joking. People who want the content on the disc would be mad if the disc turns just as a digiral activiation format and the disc does not have content at all. Like H. Infinite.
Re: Elden Ring Shipped More Than 13 Million Copies In Just Over A Month
Elden Ring is goty but I could see Horizon winning because of the goty template (story action based game).
We still have a few potential threats.
Re: The Nintendo Switch Is Basically Getting An Xbox Pro Controller
That should be the controller that comes with the switch
Re: Microsoft Creates Patent That Enables Xbox Discs To Be Converted To Digital
Hope it's not just so the discs stop having the game and it's just a converter like Halo infinite.
Pro consumer move!!!! Lets go
Re: Game Dev Receives Abuse And Apparent Death Threat After Trek To Yomi Tweet
@UltimateOtaku91 I'll even make fun of sony, the studio and ps fans if it gets a 7.
Even if the first one js my favorite game of last gen
Re: Game Dev Receives Abuse And Apparent Death Threat After Trek To Yomi Tweet
@UltimateOtaku91 hell no lol
Re: Game Dev Receives Abuse And Apparent Death Threat After Trek To Yomi Tweet
@UltimateOtaku91 Like I said in other posts. I only have free time to play what I think it's above average games.
Re: Xbox Working On New Update To Fully Fix Network Outage Issues
For me, an always online console is a dealbreaker for me. I rather get a PC (Yes, I would pay more for it just so I can play offline). Then again PC has a lot of bad ports and troubleshooting. It's like they didn't learn from 2013. It's not as bad, but this should be as big of a matter like the $120 price hike gold attempt was.
Re: Game Dev Receives Abuse And Apparent Death Threat After Trek To Yomi Tweet
Well the game is an indie game, and one that had average reviews, so I don't think it was going to sell.
Re: Game Dev Receives Abuse And Apparent Death Threat After Trek To Yomi Tweet
@Chaudy They're sending death threats?
For this? Lol.
Re: Gotham Knights Last-Gen Versions Have Been Cancelled
Very glad. Time to upgrade. Anyone who REALLY wanted a next gen console, would've got one already.
Re: Former Xbox Employee Joins Bungie As 'Project Lead' For Destiny 2 Expansions
Removed
Re: Major Xbox Outage Leads To Confusion And Frustration Over 'Offline' Games
@Envy
but you're turning a blind eye. You said it's only one thing that they did. Hell I've mentioned multiple things about them and nobody takes that in consideration. Nobody even mentions Nintendo neither. Those normal people... are rare when it comes to online discussion about gaming. Like on pushquare, purexbox or nintendolife.
Gamers are smart in many ways, but when it comes to emotional attachments to things (And probably people), it's like they have weak points.
Excuse my grammar. Don't even want to bother with it.
Re: Major Xbox Outage Leads To Confusion And Frustration Over 'Offline' Games
@Envy lol. One?
I am just pointing out the double standards around here.
Re: Major Xbox Outage Leads To Confusion And Frustration Over 'Offline' Games
Ah yes. Most pro consumer company.
Re: Outriders Hasn't Been Profitable Despite Positive Xbox Game Pass Launch
Average games won't survive. Even if they're "Free". Very competitive to be average these days.
Re: The Upcoming Xbox Games Showcase Looks Set At 90 Minutes Long
Meaty. Can't get here faster.
Re: Rumour: Warner Bros' Game Studios & IP 'Supposedly' Up For Sale
@TheSilverFalcon
Avalanche is helping with Hogwarts
Monolith is making WW
Rocksteady is making TSS
WB montreal is making GK
Not quiet.
Re: Rumour: Warner Bros' Game Studios & IP 'Supposedly' Up For Sale
Microsoft bought 2. Lets not wish they get yet another one.
My prediction will be that it's between Tencent and Sony and I hope Sony doesn't lose to Tencent like it always does (warframe devs come to mind).
God forbid its EA, the killer of studios. Take two is the lesser evil. Screw Netease, I don't know them. PUBG corp would be interesting. They have that Callisto Protocol game and I believe a south korean take on AAA gaming would be nice.
Re: Square Enix Will Still Work On Western Games Despite Studios Sale
Square Enix will be Konami 2.0 if they aren't careful. FF is carrying that company now.
Re: Rumour: 'Virtually Every' Xbox Studio Has Submitted Content For June's Games Showcase
it will be the best xbox showcase
Re: Move Over Microsoft, Embracer Group Buys Square Enix's Western Studios
Some of you guys will get bamboozled when you find out that studios that are purchased won't revive all of their dead IPs and they will still make what makes money.
Re: Move Over Microsoft, Embracer Group Buys Square Enix's Western Studios
@Kooky_Daisuke
I think Sony might get WB because of the rumors. Evo with MK makes so much sense. Rocksteady could be their DC's Insomniac.
To be fair. If Sony had to choose and chose SE I'll be dissapointed. I only care about FF.
Re: Move Over Microsoft, Embracer Group Buys Square Enix's Western Studios
@Xiovanni OH GOOOOOD.
Re: Move Over Microsoft, Embracer Group Buys Square Enix's Western Studios
Square Enix is slowly turning into crap while selling this and with their recent games.
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your Wild Predictions For The Xbox Games Showcase?
@Rural-Bandit It's all speculation from our side so we shouldn't get mad about it. It still exists.
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your Wild Predictions For The Xbox Games Showcase?
@Rural-Bandit
They will get triggered, but common. You can't really say a company will do something for sure. We have no control over them. They can expect it to be a ps exclusive, but can't get mad if it ends up being an xbox exclusive. Like Kotor.
Re: Xbox & Bethesda Games Showcase Confirmed For This June
@Floki I forgot. Thanks for the reminder. Not the war, that they were a Russian developer hehe.
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your Wild Predictions For The Xbox Games Showcase?
Silent Hill remake by Kojima.
Re: Activision Blizzard Stockholders Approve Microsoft Acquisition
Just make sure Bobby goes out.
Re: Xbox & Bethesda Games Showcase Confirmed For This June
@OldgamerDave Congrats man. Hope everything goes well.
Re: Xbox & Bethesda Games Showcase Confirmed For This June
@Rural-Bandit
Yes, finally haha. I think we're ready for a huge huge showcase.
AB: We might see the upcoming COD and maybe a release date for Diablo 4.
Bethesda: Starfield. Maybe Machine games will reveal their Indiana Jones game and iD might tease doom 3, my fav modern FPS. Redfall too.
Xbox Division Studios: I'm expecting gameplay from Coalition, Compulsion, Everwild, Fable, more of Hellblade 2, Forza Motorsport, Perfect Dark, Avowed and State of Decay 3.
Not to mention third party stuff. Want to see Contraband and Stalker 2 too.
Re: Xbox & Bethesda Games Showcase Confirmed For This June
Yes. Excitement!
Re: Microsoft CEO Praises 'Market Leading' Sales Of Xbox Consoles In 2022
@Rural-Bandit Both ori are on switch, right? I get the whole is better to play it on the X, but switch has more appealing exclusives atm (and I don't like them that much, not for me). I was just trying to say as of today. The gap for games is big.
I just think that 3 ips for 3 gens is embarassing. I remember the xbox all stars battle royale memes. Now, Glad they acted quickly and listened.
Returnal was never supposed to be a Ghost or Horizon. It was an indie studio making its triple A game. They did a fine job. Shame that it's difficulty affects their sales, but that ain't changing according to the developer. If $70 is too much, they will reduce to $60 again. Let the market dictate if it's too much. If people like paying $70, well tough love.
I think many people have misunderstood me. All I said is that xbox is outselling ps5 because of supply because it's not outselling it with the games. They wouldn't be beating them with the current released games. I never said xbox will never have the games or anything like that. I said as of today, supply is the only reason. Everyone started jumping on the console war bagon.
Re: Microsoft CEO Praises 'Market Leading' Sales Of Xbox Consoles In 2022
@Tharsman I'm going to dismiss that one. It's barely a video game for me. Kind of like Detroit Become Human.
Re: Microsoft CEO Praises 'Market Leading' Sales Of Xbox Consoles In 2022
@Tharsman
Is the third title Gears?
So... halo, gears and forza?
I'm just messing with you but it's the truth. That's changing and that's why I'm here.
Re: Microsoft CEO Praises 'Market Leading' Sales Of Xbox Consoles In 2022
@Rural-Bandit
We gotta try to be a bit more objective here. Gt7 didn't do more harm than good. It's selling very well. My friends are asking me if they should buy it. It's doing something. Gt sport was worse and it sold over 10m. The rest of the games, well you just don't like, but that doesn't mean neither have really have offered great games. Maybe for you it hasn't, but for me, I would have basically half of the games I have bought this gen without sony games. Ps5 has the clear upperhand with games and I'm being objectively here. Metacritic publisher doesn't mean much. You can put out a 90 rated game and the other can put out 5 85 and the first one would win. It doesn't say the scale of those games either. Doesn't say if they were exclusives (Psychonauts and Deathloop).
Idk why you brought game sales. Microsoft can't even get to 10m with their most famous IP, much less with the others.
Ubisoft wishes it could do what Sony does. Or What Capcom, Rockstar, Fromsoftware does
Yes Xbox is being more "pro consumer" than sony atm, but when it comes to games, as of today, I don't believe anyone who says xbox has as equally good exclusive games. In 2021, yes, equally as good, but I'm counting nov 2020 games and the ones that came this year too for this perspective
Re: Microsoft CEO Praises 'Market Leading' Sales Of Xbox Consoles In 2022
@Tharsman what catalogue of exclusives? Lets be honest. For 3 straight gens, the only memorable ips xbox has had are forza, gears and halo. It's still is btw (Today, April 27 of 2022). Starfield will be the start of a change and I am super glad it's turning out to be that way. I'm not saying there isn't demand or a higher demand. I am just saying it beat ps5 because of stock.
I am not really getting into if the exclusives sell consoles. There are multiple factors where having the best exclusives matters a lot. Nintendo is not an exception. It's the clear answer that they matter.
Re: Microsoft CEO Praises 'Market Leading' Sales Of Xbox Consoles In 2022
@Royalblues You're the one that had the mienfoo avatar right? Didn't you just try to stir the pot on pushsquare's article about this topic? I'm just saying it's due to stock. Again. Stop jumping to conclusions about how I feel. Consider being ignored.
@Lavalera Not really. They are the whales for those games. I never said anything about upcoming games. I meant as of today and the current sales.
Re: Microsoft CEO Praises 'Market Leading' Sales Of Xbox Consoles In 2022
@Lavalera
It's the supply like I mentioned above. You already said it's their second console. Yeah. This gen will be a close one. I expect something like 80m for xbox vs a bit over 100m for PS5, but I wish that only happened because xbox released high end games, not because they were cheap and attracted cheap customers. I hope it's not a Netflix vs Cinema theaters kind of situation.
Re: Microsoft CEO Praises 'Market Leading' Sales Of Xbox Consoles In 2022
@Rural-Bandit Yes but I'm talking as of right now.
Deathloop, Ghostwire, Miles, HFW, GT7, Ratchet, Returnal, Demon Souls, Sackboy vs Halo, which is dying and FH5 as their "next gen" AAA exclusive offerings.
Like the only explanation for xbox outselling is the supply. Especially when people have their ps4 library and it would make sense for them to get a ps5.
When it's 2024, the conversation will be another one, but as of today. It is only happening because of chip shortages.
Re: Microsoft CEO Praises 'Market Leading' Sales Of Xbox Consoles In 2022
@Tharsman
It is still surprising me that it's outselling the 360 with a worse selection of games and not having the 1 year advantage vs ps3 during that time, while having the advantage of the ps3 reveal fail.
PS5 really screwed up. They still have the advantage of better games at the moment, but they can't capitalize on that with short stocks. Now when xbox gets its chunk of games, if they're good, sony will have a hard time.
Re: Xbox Gaming Revenue Up 6% YoY In Latest Earnings Report
@Would_you_kindly Well it says revenue, not profit.
Re: New Starfield Video Delves Deep Into The Game's Music And Audio Design
@Rural-Bandit I'm leaving gaming if I don't see Todd Howards face during Starfield gameplay reveal.
Re: New Starfield Video Delves Deep Into The Game's Music And Audio Design
G a m e p l a y R e v e a l