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@Kaloudz

Didn't you call Jim Ryan a crybaby? Why aren't you doing the same here?

@ZYDIO

He thinks it's because of one game hahahahahaha.

Have you paid attention to the last 10 years?

The funny thing is, it's their own fault they're there and nobody should be sorry for them. They had all the money they needed, and yet, they failed. Difference why they didn't go the sega way is because of daddy MS, and that is still a possibility or a probablity if Starfield fails and this deal is rejected.

I don't see people mentioning crying Phil. The bias is real.

Just when Starfield is around the corner.

Aww these xbox fans are proven wrong again and again and again.

Nobody really wants to listen to xbox's TRUE intentions with gamepass, abk, games cost/budgets etc.

Mid. 7

Starfield seems it's the only game that is worth getting an xbox for, for this whole gen since I don't see the investment with the other games, and that is if it's not a c2077 situation (AI, very short gameplay clips give me concern of a buggy mess).

The rest of first party games don't look exceptional. Third party was worse than ps showcase, but they did show plenty of first party so that's why I give it a 7, but nothing that screams this is next gen.

I give up on this current management from xbox.

E3 2018 was better.

@Sebatrox

Both games are trash!!! Doodooo. Not even for free.

@BlackMayge

Exactly, if Starfield misses, xbox will never recover from that. Half of xbox existance (10 years) will have been horrible. 360 was soo good. Halo 3, reach and Gears of war 2 were awesome to me.

@Sebatrox

Sf6 is awesome. Just tried the demo. Your behaviour is why sf5 was not on xbox.

Oh. So that's how they count it. Still. 10million only on xbox pass. The other 15million could move to PC, so xbox really only has 10 million subs that only care about the box.

So with less consoles sold, it should even much much less than 50m.

And it's 50m xbox one + 20m series + all of PC - 25million

Like I said. You just don't want to understand me on purpose. Keep denying.

@Sebatrox

Sorry. Can't play without it. I just don't think you'll ever get my point due to stubborness so I got lazy.

So you're telling me Xbox is 10million?

Lmao say good bye to the console.

@Sebatrox

No lol. Ps plus doesn't let you play multiplayer. Multiplayer. It is more crucial and not even half of the ps users have it. So a game library should do worse by logic.

Idk how much PC GP subs are so % could be anything.

Yeah. It is low. I guess people share accounts and lots play single player only.

@Sebatrox
They just announced they have 48m ps plus subs today facepalm. Glad extra is failing. Subs are bad for gaming, and since ps plus is more of a necessity and it doesn't go over 50m. Gamepass will be under that. Yes starfield will come, but people also sub for old games and there are so many old games you can play. They clearly can't do the 1 game each month thing.

You still don't get both companies were hyperboling every statement. They specifically said extra because essential is higher. Like I said. They both lie.

@theduckofdeath

It is xbox fault. Arkane never had this issue with deathloop.

@Sebatrox

My bad. 3 billion gamers. That's why they made gamepass. Can't even get to 30m. Plus is under 50m lol

@theduckofdeath

Then something is wrong with management. A bad game never moves the needle.

@theduckofdeath
I honestly cannot still believe people still believe Xbox has a plan. They barely execute what they say lol.

@Sebatrox
They're still not hitting the 200m they wanted.

@Sebatrox
Alright. I'll stick to they're not officially releasing the numbers meaning something.

@BrilliantBill
Lol

@Sakisa

Lol. You have no clue what xbox needs.

You would be the one to run down the division to the ground with your preferred games that wouldn't even sell 1 million consoles per each indie.

Who the hell bought a next gen console that took months to find just to play a game that could be played on their work laptop lol?

Basic strategy that has always worked and it's beating xbox to a pulp.

Get your "I hate AAA because it's cool" mentality outta here. This ***** won't cut it lol.

This is the welfare/greatvalue/McDonalds of gaming. Welcome to Xbox, where unique ideas that don't sell come to die.

I swear. Even back to when sea of thieves and crackdown 3 were being hyped, it made no sense at all. Low budget games don't work/make BIG profit for a platform holder. Is not the startegy. Psvr2 is a waste of time too.

@fbnaulin

Hahahahah

You do realise if xbox fails, sony will make us pay (literally) for it?

@Sebatrox

Idk. I'll go with 25 until xbox decided to share the #s themselves.

And trust me, both of them did lowkey lies to appear weaker.

@Sebatrox

Both of them were hyperboling stuff

@OldgamerDave
I'm playing the sf6 and is gucci. Def happy I bought it.

@Sebatrox

Since 2022, and I bet the 25 is not consistent.

@Sebatrox

Nothing beats resident evil 4 or pokemon red and blue.

@fbnaulin
Glad I'm not in charge of a declining division.

@Sebatrox I don't think ES6 is coming out this generation so it's a nothingburger.

Idk if they'll continue making Doom but it's an ok seller. It's my top 3 game (eternal) from last gen but I have to be honest with it. It sold well. Just well.

@somnambulance

I mean from dropping 13% in sales in UK and sony going up by 400% in March, with no games from sony being released near that month. You don't have to do better than xbox one, you have to do better than ps5 because you are already at a disadvantage coming from a bad taste generation, and they're not even on the same league. They're doing worst with games. They won't just pull gamers away from ps5. They were so lucky with the shortages. No gamepass subs numbers. The power of series X not being used with redfall at 30fps.

Idk how people put a blind eye to this but good luck lmao. Nobody expected fortnite to be as big as it is, so some miracle can still happen.

@Moonglow

Indie games aren't really going to do or change any outcome. Redfall looks mediocre and that's not even AAA.

Spider-man 2 alone will outsell and move more console units than everything xbox releases this year. Maybe since Xbox series launched (2020-2023) and I'm not joking if SM2 sells 30m lifetime.

You can release plenty of $20, 90 rated indie games and they won't even scratch Sony. It's the reality and I wouldn't count the games you mentioned. They won't give enough of a reason to keep making consoles.

I'm sorry you think Pentinent, Hi Fi Rush and Grounded have any chance.

@Moonglow

Same for sony. Glad this is over and we can see some showcases.

It's so dry for upcoming games.

Dissapointing for them but it's their fault they don't have a plan B, C and D.

They have a lot to prove with the studios they have right now, which is the most out of any platform holder so no excuses. Spend those 70B (well 67B) on your own studios and make up for the 20 years of only creating halo, gears and forza, which one is dead and another is nowhere to be spotted.

Maybe better management and sales will retain employees. What a horrible month for xbox and I'm glad this happened. They constantly put all their eggs on a basket and fail.

Now Starfield is the one in the basket, and if that isn't a hit idk if they'll be motivated with consoles by the end of the gen. That game will determine a real deep thought about Xbox's CONSOLE future.

Put someone better at studios management.

Let halo die and make the last gears.

And actually compete on AAA level

@iplaygamesnstuff

Lol. Whatever you want to believe.

I bet the dozens of millions of cod ps users agree.

@iplaygamesnstuff

If MS made good exclusives, the gap wouldn't be so far wide that Sony can get away with exlclusivity.

And they don't own Square Enix. SE can say no. MS can bid them out. MS also does exclusivity deals.

May I remind you the ps3/360 era. Xbox can do something about it.

I really don't get how owning cod vs making a deal with cod is on the same level. People really aren't thinking this through well.

I see MS as the whiney one. Daddy please help me correct my errors. We can't compete. We can't compete!

Not a good look is not giving something groundbreaking for 10 years.

@Somebody

I know Sony will be fine, but they want to be more fine ish. That's all it is.

That market difference would be closer if MS knew how to manage video GAMES.

@gogolpoe

Well I had a 360, so that's on MS they made me hate them. It is what it is.

And no. I just want better games and a better industry for it. Not services with battle passes, mtx, cut content, no really next gen games that push the limit because the service isn't profitable enough.

And It's good to listen to the other side of the coin once in a while. Makes you smart.

@gogolpoe

Oh I'm more than secure about on which console I decide to invest, primarly.

@Jenkinss

What does excel have to do with it lol?

Gaming is mostly played with Windows. They integrated cloud with gaming. How is it a reach lol?

It's funny how MS told everyone hardware doesn't matter, but now we're stuck with hardware. You are being fooled with whatever goal post Phil tells you to accept.

@Somebody

Xbox has enough studios to compete. I really don't know why they need ABK. There is really no need if you florish those 23 studios and they can get to the fake 3 Billion they want. They can also buy double A and smaller studios.

@Sakko

Well, good to know. So it seems they take it seirously then. The deal may or may not go through. We'll see.

@Sakko

That's not what I heard from people here. Xbox wanted to reach 3 billion gamers, and everytime phil says something, the people eat it ALL up, and are proven wrong over and over again, and they move their goal post if Phil says to move it. Phil has no clue what he's doing. He's copying Netflix. That's it. He isn't clear how gaming is so different from movies and how they're different.

There are people in PS that don't like Jim. Plenty. That's the difference.

@Sakko

Epic Games is giving them a little bit of pressure now.

But it's still their OS and they can do whatever they want, including it with gaming.

@Jenkinss

20% because that's what they want you to see. What about cloud, OS? Is it 20%? Xbox is 2000% bigger. What about those %?

@Moonglow

Lol.

Ms brought it to the topic. It wasn't me.

Appear weak when you're strong. Appear strong when you're weak. You clearly don't get how to grow a company and why they are doing it. Sony is very proud, it's why they are not signing the deal.

Last 2 decades? Lol that was MS's fault. Correcting by buying every publisher is not what anyone asked. NOBODY was asking for that.

@K1LLEGAL

Well, I bet the switch 2 won't be that powerful either way.

but who am I kidding, cod is a reskinned annual game. It's not pushing anything.

Oh lol.

Microsoft contradicts itself so many times. Do they care about hardware, or they don't? which one is it?

Why don't they mention Nintendo in the market share? They signed the cod contract with them because they're also being "hurt" by this right? That contract was done last year btw. COD was never big on Nintendo, and now cod will be handicapped because it needs to go to the switch?

Microsoft has 23 studios, x20 more money than Sony's, but lets blame evil Sony for not letting us compete instead of our bad management, right?

Lets mask Sony as a baby. Sony doesn't lose anything by trying. If the deal goes though, they still get the 10 year deal, if they win, MS loses money and their energy and they keep the income of COD. People are so short sighted and don't see it as a tactic. They rather call them "babies". Everyone is here to make money.

MS is desperate. First it was about the metaverse and KING lmao. They want to focus on hardware so they can look "weak" and it's pathetic. They're bringing old contracts and bribing people.

I like how some of the fans say xbox is weak, but then they fantasize about MS getting Sega, Capcom, Ubisoft etc.

Yes, we know Jim wants money. It's why it's fighting for it. They don't have a OS monopoly (which is why Google might be there).

Appear strong when you're weak, appear weak when you're strong. That's the motto of this debate.

What I'm finding about this, is that Sony is proud and MS does not know how to debate in gaming.

And I thought Nintendo and Sony weren't competition. Which one is it?

Idk what will happen, some people from both sides think they know, which is funny, but we really don't know. All I know this is the last acquisition for MS for a long long time, which I hope it goes through because ABK sucks anyways.

@uptownsoul

I gotta say, you're the only one that is very grounded in reality in this whole site. Every comment you put is the perfect counter argument for what these people cry about.

@Moonglow

Or maybe, PS users usually buy more jrps than the xbox camp even before gamepass, which gamepass just makes it worse, but it seems people still believe games sell more because one INDIE dev said so.

ps has more units sold and that's on xbox for not competing with their xbox first party games.

The reach is amazing. It's just business. This is not a charity. You done goofed last gen and so far the start of this gen, deal with it it's what I would tell MS. Make mass appealing games (not hi rush or flight sim) or just stop crying about it.

@Deadeye13

Sony jealous. The way you think how they feel is funny to me. It is not a romantic couple.

@Deadeye13

And you think MS is not lying and misleading to get the deal too?

Hahahaha. That's what I expect from PX.

@Deadeye13

They're doing what they need to do. I do not see it as crying. They're pulling every card and MS got surprised of how many cards they have pulled.

@northofthewall

So one thread made you think Push square is biased? The other stuff they have done to attack sony doesn't matter?

Because services are a thing now. That's why they added the thread. It's a big concern if Sony does it.