I think there are still too many unknowns for me to get my hopes up for Xbox, for me the ecosystem, the profile and the achievement system is something quite important and I still don't know how all the pieces are going to fit together.
On the other hand I think they are doing what is necessary to face the evolution of the industry, I think that in 15-20 years there are much more probabilities that Xbox will still be there, than Playstation.
Actually one thing does not contradict the other, Xbox may be pushing these changes because they have no choice, but they are very harmful changes for Sony's business model, which has been characterized by being very traditional and static: closed platform and commission per published game.
As long as they can avoid it to Xbox they are not going to bring any project, the cost of games will be increasingly difficult to assimilate, they will bring their games to more and more places but not to the Xbox/Windows store, if Microsoft's bundle of bets works and they end up consolidating as the new direction of the industry (Gamepass, cloud, multi-store OS...) they are potentially screwed.
@DennisReynolds Microsoft has bought Activison Blizzard and Bethesda, it has a scary amount of business. Xbox publishes 10-12 games a year, Playstation publishes 2 with luck.
The industry is in a time of disruption, technologies like the cloud could change the way we play games in a few years. Sony doesn't have the infrastructure for this change, Xbox does.
Gamepass, or the path of making the industry a Netflix-like model, is something Xbox has pushed for and continues to do. And it has become clear that Sony doesn't want to, or can, go that way.
Xbox is pushing to open up platforms to multiple stores, this while various laws and lawsuits are unfolding in multiple countries against ecosystems closed to single digital stores. Sony has not prepared for such a change.
Another major change to come could be consoles and devices with a common OS, maybe in a few years Windows and Steam OS will be the Android and IOS of video games. Sony is not ready for this.
I think in general Sony is afraid of change, and Xbox is unleashed changing and experimenting with everything that is put in front of them.
From the last I've read the data is false, they are estimates made based on the number of reviews on the Xbox Store, which is absolutely irrelevant to even estimate sales.
It is not known if it will have sold well or badly, but surely it will have nothing to do with that number. We must be careful with the fantasies of many users on twitter.
No surprise, this game should have been released on Xbox a long time ago, Square has treated Xbox users like second rate users, they are not going to go out and buy it like crazy at this point.
And Microsoft doesn't help either, the platform is in the worst moment of its history, they practically don't even sell consoles anymore, I don't think there are many users left with enough confidence to keep increasing their Xbox library until they start detailing what the future holds for the platform.
I guess they were running out of money and couldn't wait any longer to launch it.
I remember in the past enjoying Cyberpunk immensely, before any patches came out, while everyone was laughing at it I enjoyed it flawlessly on the Xbox One X, a platform on which it performed well, it even became one of my favorite games.
I don't think it's the same case, this game does seem to have serious problems, on all platforms, but if I see it discounted I might give it a chance.
Honestly, I think Microsoft abandoned Xbox Series two years ago, the state of health and sales of the platform since then is disastrous. It seems that games are still being released more out of inertia than a real support to the system.
I would buy it if I had confidence that there was going to be industry-wide support to bring their games to the Windows/Xbox Store with Xbox functionality, but as of today there is still a lot of work to be done.
-Many games are never released on the store, games like God of War or Spiderman are not on the Xbox Store, and now that there are no exclusives on Xbox it is unacceptable (I don't care if they are on the Steam store, those are Steam games, NOT Xbox games).
-Many games arrive without even Xbox achievements, games from EA or Ubisoft for example, this inconsistency is also unacceptable.
-As of today there is no guarantee that the current Xbox library (Xbox Series, Xbox One, Xbox 360 and Xbox OG) will be playable on this device, and that should already be an immovable basis for selling any Xbox device.
In my opinion, and until this changes, this device is currently an expensive and pointless luxury, especially if you dress it up and sell it under the Xbox name.
It's a ROG Ally with a skin, they can say what they want, this is NOT an Xbox.
It's a PC, and on PC, unless they change things, most gamers use Steam, and Steam games don't have Xbox achievements, they don't use the Xbox profile... they are NOT Xbox games.
My expectations are low, but I hope to see big news about the new consoles, the achievement system, the store... things that will make us trust in the future of Xbox again.
I think Xbox is at the worst point in its history, it's very hard to trust new Xbox devices after the disaster of the last few years.
They should communicate better what the plan is with Xbox, if the platform really has any future, and if not come to some agreement with Steam or Playstation to export our profiles and not lose our game hours and unlocked achievements.
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Re: Talking Point: Have This Month's Announcements Made You Excited About Xbox Again?
I think there are still too many unknowns for me to get my hopes up for Xbox, for me the ecosystem, the profile and the achievement system is something quite important and I still don't know how all the pieces are going to fit together.
On the other hand I think they are doing what is necessary to face the evolution of the industry, I think that in 15-20 years there are much more probabilities that Xbox will still be there, than Playstation.
Re: PS5's Stellar Blade Could Move To Switch 2, But What About Xbox?
Actually one thing does not contradict the other, Xbox may be pushing these changes because they have no choice, but they are very harmful changes for Sony's business model, which has been characterized by being very traditional and static: closed platform and commission per published game.
As long as they can avoid it to Xbox they are not going to bring any project, the cost of games will be increasingly difficult to assimilate, they will bring their games to more and more places but not to the Xbox/Windows store, if Microsoft's bundle of bets works and they end up consolidating as the new direction of the industry (Gamepass, cloud, multi-store OS...) they are potentially screwed.
Re: PS5's Stellar Blade Could Move To Switch 2, But What About Xbox?
@DennisReynolds Microsoft has bought Activison Blizzard and Bethesda, it has a scary amount of business. Xbox publishes 10-12 games a year, Playstation publishes 2 with luck.
The industry is in a time of disruption, technologies like the cloud could change the way we play games in a few years. Sony doesn't have the infrastructure for this change, Xbox does.
Gamepass, or the path of making the industry a Netflix-like model, is something Xbox has pushed for and continues to do. And it has become clear that Sony doesn't want to, or can, go that way.
Xbox is pushing to open up platforms to multiple stores, this while various laws and lawsuits are unfolding in multiple countries against ecosystems closed to single digital stores. Sony has not prepared for such a change.
Another major change to come could be consoles and devices with a common OS, maybe in a few years Windows and Steam OS will be the Android and IOS of video games. Sony is not ready for this.
I think in general Sony is afraid of change, and Xbox is unleashed changing and experimenting with everything that is put in front of them.
Re: PS5's Stellar Blade Could Move To Switch 2, But What About Xbox?
I think Sony is too afraid of Xbox to release anything on this platform.
Re: According To Sales Estimates, Final Fantasy 16 Had A Rough First Week On Xbox
From the last I've read the data is false, they are estimates made based on the number of reviews on the Xbox Store, which is absolutely irrelevant to even estimate sales.
It is not known if it will have sold well or badly, but surely it will have nothing to do with that number. We must be careful with the fantasies of many users on twitter.
Re: According To Sales Estimates, Final Fantasy 16 Had A Rough First Week On Xbox
No surprise, this game should have been released on Xbox a long time ago, Square has treated Xbox users like second rate users, they are not going to go out and buy it like crazy at this point.
And Microsoft doesn't help either, the platform is in the worst moment of its history, they practically don't even sell consoles anymore, I don't think there are many users left with enough confidence to keep increasing their Xbox library until they start detailing what the future holds for the platform.
Re: Hands On: Not Gonna Lie, I'm Enjoying MindsEye On Xbox Right Now
I guess they were running out of money and couldn't wait any longer to launch it.
I remember in the past enjoying Cyberpunk immensely, before any patches came out, while everyone was laughing at it I enjoyed it flawlessly on the Xbox One X, a platform on which it performed well, it even became one of my favorite games.
I don't think it's the same case, this game does seem to have serious problems, on all platforms, but if I see it discounted I might give it a chance.
Re: Opinion: It Feels Like Microsoft Is Planning A Huge Final Year Of Xbox Series X|S In 2026
Honestly, I think Microsoft abandoned Xbox Series two years ago, the state of health and sales of the platform since then is disastrous. It seems that games are still being released more out of inertia than a real support to the system.
Re: What Games Can You Play On The ROG Xbox Ally Handheld?
It's just a PC, so you can play PC games.
Re: Two More Xbox First-Party Games Are Getting 'Code In A Box' Physical Releases In 2025
I don't know how we, the users, have allowed the industry to end up being this crappy
Re: Talking Point: How Much Do You Think The ROG Xbox Ally Will Cost?
I would buy it if I had confidence that there was going to be industry-wide support to bring their games to the Windows/Xbox Store with Xbox functionality, but as of today there is still a lot of work to be done.
-Many games are never released on the store, games like God of War or Spiderman are not on the Xbox Store, and now that there are no exclusives on Xbox it is unacceptable (I don't care if they are on the Steam store, those are Steam games, NOT Xbox games).
-Many games arrive without even Xbox achievements, games from EA or Ubisoft for example, this inconsistency is also unacceptable.
-As of today there is no guarantee that the current Xbox library (Xbox Series, Xbox One, Xbox 360 and Xbox OG) will be playable on this device, and that should already be an immovable basis for selling any Xbox device.
In my opinion, and until this changes, this device is currently an expensive and pointless luxury, especially if you dress it up and sell it under the Xbox name.
Re: Reaction: Xbox Games Showcase 2025 Was Just OK, But Next Year Should Be Amazing
It was a remarkable event, at least compared to the weak events we have seen this summer.
However I think there is still a lot of doubt about the roadmap of the Xbox platform, the future feels “weird”.
Re: Xbox Handheld Is Called 'ROG Xbox Ally', Releases Holiday 2025
It's a ROG Ally with a skin, they can say what they want, this is NOT an Xbox.
It's a PC, and on PC, unless they change things, most gamers use Steam, and Steam games don't have Xbox achievements, they don't use the Xbox profile... they are NOT Xbox games.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The Xbox Games Showcase 2025?
B.
A great parade of games, the best event so far this year.
But I still have many doubts about the future of the platform.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The Summer Game Fest 2025 Showcase?
C.
F if not counting RE9.
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your Plans For The Xbox Games Showcase 2025?
My expectations are low, but I hope to see big news about the new consoles, the achievement system, the store... things that will make us trust in the future of Xbox again.
Re: Talking Point: This Classic Activision Racer Came To Xbox 15 Years Ago, And We Sorely Miss It
This game used real vehicle models? if so then it is difficult to see it, I think there are usually a lot of problems with licensing in these games
Re: Talking Point: Will You Be Buying The 2025 Xbox Handheld From ASUS?
Honestly, no.
I think Xbox is at the worst point in its history, it's very hard to trust new Xbox devices after the disaster of the last few years.
They should communicate better what the plan is with Xbox, if the platform really has any future, and if not come to some agreement with Steam or Playstation to export our profiles and not lose our game hours and unlocked achievements.