@themightyant One of the game devs on ResetEra explained it.
"It takes 6 weeks usually to cert and print discs. 6 weeks that are better spent on the game and not distracting the team to final a disc build. Not a surprise. Would take this any day."
"In the past it was a trade off that studios did, less dev time on the game and possibly more crunch to finish the disc build. As time goes and digital becomes an ever more present reality, studios are deciding where to put their priority, and more and more teams are opt-ing for that to be the full day 1 release and thus you are seeing these compromises with discs only having stubs and licenses on them. The smaller the physical market becomes, the more teams will decide to do this."
Last few months of Game Pass first-party are literally insane October - Black Ops 6 November - MSFS 2024 December - Indiana Jones February - Avowed April - Oblivion Remaster, South of Midnight May - DOOM July - Tony Hawk 3+4 August - Gears late 2025 - COD 2025, The Outer Worlds 2, Ninja Gaiden 4, COD 2025
It's hilarious that Xbox went from "no first-party games" to "sheesh, slow down because I can't keep up" lol
Obvious delay. Can't remember last Rockstar game that shipped without a delay.
But kudos to Rockstar to announce delay now. Because they were blueballing entire industry so devs and publishers didn't know when to place their game during late 2025.
@AirForceMetroid What? Yes. Tarrifs existed in past, but they were employed strategically to protect certain industries. But this was in time when you could effectively sourced whole product from your country.
Which isn't true anymore. For example, you can't just dig minerals that are required to make chips from anywhere lol. Same for materials for batteries on EVs. Doing tariff war in time when whole trade is interconnected and to make one car you are sourcing materials/components from whole world is dumbest idea on Earth.
Like what the ***** you think will happen? Do you really think Apple will start manufacturing iPhones in USA? Do you know how much that iPhone would cost considering cost of labor lol? How much do you think manufacturing of Xbox/PS consoles in US would cost? You can effectively double a price of current PS5 and Series X and you probably have a landing spot.
These price hikes are happening because companies want to protect themselves from idiot president who tends to wake up and make new ***** without thinking and without reason.
Outside of plenty of "smoke" from insiders regarding exact week when Oblivion would be drop, it's really hard to harm nobody when you are releasing your game considering there are multiple game released every day
@NishimuraX You probably didn't "get" my post. But okay.
Hilarious to me is reaction like if it's first time this happened. Not fact that gamers have "less choice." I already made my choice. I don't care if physical continues to exist for next 50 years for others to buy.
Fact that even consoles are moving towards digital is not "me championing that" but reality. Even Nintendo in my region is starting pricing physical games to be more expensive (as they should have been from beginning) than digital in obvious attempt to move players towards digital. PS5 Pro releasing without BD drive is obvious attempt to test adoption rate of external BD drive before next-gen and Xbox and PS making handhelds will move even more players towards digital.
Also, you have ability to buy Xbox digital games outside of Xbox Store, just like Steam games. So "less choice" is interesting way to frame that lol.
All and all, market has decided. Microsoft don't see a worth of "printing" second disc just to fit whole game on physical edition. They probably know that people are mainly buying physical games because they want to resell them (which they can even if full game is not on disc) or they want to put that case on shelf so they can have good vibes from it. And amount of people who will not buy Indy on PS5 just because BD just hold 20GB is just miniscule.
And expecting Microsoft to treat PS5 users in some kind of privileged position is foolish. The moment I saw how much GB Indy takes and how Xbox physical version was released, I knew that this exact treatment would be there for PS version. And that's not me saying that I agree with Microsoft. I'm just stating the obvious.
It's hilarious reading these meltdowns while I personally haven't bought physical game since 2017 lol.
And while I don't fully understand it, it was expected. Microsoft for sure won't treat PS users as some kind of special breed. Indy has 125GB which would mean getting two discs in case. And Microsoft is clearly not willing to do that. So I expect DOOM TGA to be the same.
It's maybe a shock for PS users, since PS is more prevalent in terms of physical discs. Seeing cries about FH5 not getting physical version or this is funny. But not surprising. Xbox is already 90% digital. First party even more (because of Game Pass).
I call ***** on this one. Okay, if there are some problems with licensing, deal with those problems. But I doubt there are any problems with releasing Modern Warfare 2 (new one) or even Vanguard or Black ops Cold War on Game Pass. They are modern games and I doubt there are any problems with licensing.
I just think they are not bringing them to Game Pass, because Black Ops 6 is their moneymaker and they are afraid that people will back to the games that can't be monetised that well.
It's pretty clear that Microsoft can't launch new Xbox as a closed ecosystem. It would too niche and devs would probably stop supporting it. So making a PC with Xbox shell sounds pretty logical. But it's a case of "how will you implement." Because on paper it sounds good.
We would have access to many more games thanks to PC ecosystem including PlayStation games. It would basically solve "will devs support a platform" problem. But there are many questions that needs to be answered.
so we have a "insider" fight One is claiming that Fable was delayed to create a space for Gears of War E-Day and other Xbox releases Other is claiming that there is no GoW E-Day for 2025 but we will have Gears collection this year.
I'm more interested in vision of Xbox ecosystem moving forward. It's pretty clear that it doesn't make sense for Xbox to make closed ecosystem like they used to do, because with them moving to multiplatform releases, it would be death sentence for the hardware and support from third-party devs.
I don't have plans to leave Xbox ecosystem, so I would be obviously interested into new hardware. Series X will be 6 years old and it have served me well. So I would welcome more horsepower even for higher price.
Feb: Avowed April: South of Midnight May: DOOM: The Dark Ages June: Showcase July: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3+4 Rest of 2025: COD 2025, Gears Collection (rumored), The Outer Worlds 2, Ninja Gaiden 4
@GeorgeKal It makes sense if my theory is correct. If they are releasing all D_D games in first half of 2025, it really doesn't make sense to include Fable there. Especially since there will be summer showcase.
To me, bigger issue with D_D in inclusion of third-party games. I think that D_D should be reserved for first-party titles only. For third-party games, there is Partner Preview.
@GeorgeKal My theory is that The Outer Worlds 2 and Fable are for second half of 2025, so they will be in summer showcase. I would be surprised if Fable wasn't given "Direct" style presentation like BO6 in 2024 and Starfield in 2023
Hence SoM and Doom will be out before June. With Avowed it makes great first half of year for Xbox.
So, february for Avowed, march of SoM and may for DooM?
My main gripe is that Xbox Rewards are only available in small number of countries. Which is hilarious, because Microsoft Rewards ARE available in my country. But Xbox Rewards are not.
@themightyant 75% console games in Europe in 2024 were sold digitally. And this number only covers AAA/AA games that tend to skew more for physical copies.
On Xbox, only 19% of AAA/AA games in Europe were sold in form of physical copies. 32% for PlayStation. Switch is holding, but digital share is also growing.
It's pretty obvious which way wind is blowing. And not just on Xbox.
Xbox is just way ahead in share of digital sales. But PS5 Pro already came out with BD drive as optional accessory, and I fully expect that next Xbox and PS6 will both be without BD drive out of the box with option to connect one.
And publishers will move away from retail towards style that Remedy implemented with AW2. Digital only release and then some kind of physical limited release few months after release.
@UnusedBabyWipes OG game is published by Sony. On PlayStation. But Sony still owns IP. So as I said. There is no way 505 Games could have released Xbox port without Sony saying "okay, you can do that"
I wonder if it is some kind of exception, or it is Sony dipping their toes. Because there is no way that they haven't signed off this port since it's build on Decima (engine that Horizon games are built on) and Sony also owns the IP.
I like how Xbox finally found a structure in their presentations after they hired Tina Amini. You have Developer_Direct for upcoming first-party games in january/february, Partner Preview in march, big blowout showcase in june, Gamescom in august, TGS in september and then another Partner Preview in october. Every showcase has different theme and direction so you can distinguish them.
So well done. In terms of games, that new Bloober Team game looks promising and Eternal Strands on GP is great news since I wanted to pick up the game.
I don't understand why are people bitching about it. It's honestly good. Microsoft clearly wasn't interested in Tango, but they at least found a company that is interested in Tango.
Hi-Fi Rush 2 will be on Xbox.
Fine.
Only bad thing about this whole situation was their stupidity to announce closure of studio and dealing with PR disaster, while they found buyer few months later. It would be preferable to first find a partner and announce a sale. Like with Toys for Bob.
Microsoft during CMA trial said that they can't put COD on Game Pass until 2025 implying that Sony have marketing deal. But since they are putting Black Ops 6 in Game Pass in 2024, I guess that they altered the deal with Sony.
Sony would allow Black Ops 6 hitting Game Pass in 2024
Microsoft have to tone down Game Pass marketing for the game
split of revenue is going back to 70:30 (Sony gave Activision special deal for 80:20 revenue split)
And that's not me saying that this is exactly what happened. I just think that this is huge probability of what happened.
I mean...duh? It's obvious rational for him as a third-party publisher. He knows that GTA VI will sell tens of millions of copies, so he is in comfortable position saying that. On the other hand it's hilarious that he is saying that considering he recently slashed entire publishing division on it's knees (Private Division). Also, he is fortunate enough to have GTA Online and NBA 2K funding his company for years on end.
Also, even if he wanted to create sub service, it isn't feasible for Take-Two considering fact that they are only able to make 2-3 games per year, which is just not enough.
@fizban3332 What? This is exactly the thing Microsoft is doing - spacing games. They have 9 pieces of games/expansions for next 5 months. Without Avowed. Also, I really doubt that Fable was even considered for early 2025. It always sound like "late 2025" game and we will be glad if it even make it for 2025.
With how dumb Microsoft's strategy of releasing games usually is (releasing every game in second half), spreading games is nice change of pace.
They already have huge amount of content for rest of this year. And Dragon Age is also releasing in fall. And november is packed with games especially after Stalker 2 delay into november.
So having Q1 - Avowed, South of Midnight Q2 - Doom The Dark Ages Q3 - Fable Q4 - Call of Duty 2025 With few other games sprinkled? Sounds good to me.
@Ricky-Spanish It's hilarious that you are talking about this like it was unexpected and you are implying that someone lied to us, when literally PC Gamer's story about this is
"The long-awaited changes to Microsoft's subscription services have arrived"
@PsBoxSwitchOwner Saying that PS Plus Extra is doing day 1 stuff is pretty generous tbh. Because since launch of the service there were maybe 5 games that were released day one(Stray, Sea of Stars, Animal Well, Dave the Diver and Tales of Kenzera). None of the was first-party.
Also, Standard is not getting first-party games day one. But that doesn't mean that it won't get third-party games day one
@PsBoxSwitchOwner Well, it currently have. If it won't have I will stop subbing. Because day one releases are main point of subbing for me.
Even at 17,99€, Ultimate is well worth to me. Next year I would had to buy Doom The Dark Ages, Fable, South of Midnight and plenty other games that will be in Game Pass. Only those three full priced games covers my yearly Ultimate payment.
@Ricky-Spanish What? How can it be "not in the news," but Spencer said it? If he said it, you probably read it somewhere. And if you read it, googling it takes probably 15 seconds.
But you can't find it, because he didn't said it. Not recently. Fact that he was talking about "holding prices" in 2021 is pretty irrelevant in 2024 after inflation surge.
And that's not me defending Microsoft. Every price increase is bad for consumer. But this price increase was pretty much telegraphed months in advance for everyone who is reading Xbox news. So many people around Microsoft (like Tom Warren) was talking about it, that expecting no price increase was stupid. It was just about "how big of a price increase"
@Ricky-Spanish Who lied about price increase? I mean, for last few months it was obvious that they will increase prices. Tom Warren talked about this and Microsoft execs also implied it.
@Ooccoo_Jr Point is to offer bad value with Standard to "force" people to sub for Ultimate. I mean...for additional 4$ per month you are getting first-party games in subscription day one.
I'm not going to hold my expectations for Gamescom. Maybe Towerborne release date...
Honestly, I don't think we currently need any more games being showcased this year. Yea, their Showcase lacked some games that were announced ages ago (mainly Everwild and Contraband), but current Microsoft focus should be on fall and holiday period.
They have stacked last three months of the year. ARA, Age of Mythology and Stalker 2 in september, COD in october, Avowed and Flight sim in november and Indy in december. Make sure you are tying those releases to Game Pass and consoles (especially Call of Duty). Be aggressive with pricing.
And if those games will pan out in expected quality, then you can talk about more games in January.
There would be nothing better like Developer_Direct with Fable, South of Midnight and Doom after stacked late 2024.
Then prepare next showcase for june 2025 with new announcements.
@NeutronBomb Well. Game Pass is everything for Microsoft and it's growth is bedrock of future of Xbox business. And what is the better way to grow a Game Pass then with most popular yearly shooter?
To me, only thing that could prevent COD 2024 being day one in Game Pass is when SOny still have marketing deal which would prevent this possibility.
But I can also imagine Microsoft trying to put ABK games into Game Pass Ultimate exclusively.
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Re: Xbox's DOOM: The Dark Ages Seemingly Has Tiny Amount Of Content On Disc
@themightyant One of the game devs on ResetEra explained it.
"It takes 6 weeks usually to cert and print discs. 6 weeks that are better spent on the game and not distracting the team to final a disc build. Not a surprise. Would take this any day."
"In the past it was a trade off that studios did, less dev time on the game and possibly more crunch to finish the disc build. As time goes and digital becomes an ever more present reality, studios are deciding where to put their priority, and more and more teams are opt-ing for that to be the full day 1 release and thus you are seeing these compromises with discs only having stubs and licenses on them. The smaller the physical market becomes, the more teams will decide to do this."
Re: Xbox's DOOM: The Dark Ages Seemingly Has Tiny Amount Of Content On Disc
Not surprising. Especially after Indiana Jones. 5 people will cry about it and then we will all move on.
Re: Xbox Is 'Spitting Pure Fire' Right Now, Says Baldur's Gate 3 Exec
Last few months of Game Pass first-party are literally insane
October - Black Ops 6
November - MSFS 2024
December - Indiana Jones
February - Avowed
April - Oblivion Remaster, South of Midnight
May - DOOM
July - Tony Hawk 3+4
August - Gears
late 2025 - COD 2025, The Outer Worlds 2, Ninja Gaiden 4, COD 2025
It's hilarious that Xbox went from "no first-party games" to "sheesh, slow down because I can't keep up" lol
Re: Xbox Studio inXile Reminds Us That Clockwork Revolution Exists, Releasing 'In Due Time'
If game won't be show at Xbox Games Showcase I call for riot...
Probably my most anticipated game outside of Fable.
Re: GTA 6 Gets A New Release Date As Rockstar Delays To May 2026
@dskatter After Nintendo and Xbox raised prices of games, I have no doubt that GTA VI will cost same, maybe even more...
Re: GTA 6 Gets A New Release Date As Rockstar Delays To May 2026
@Kaloudz I have a hunch that Fable was targeted for Q1 even before GTA delay. I personally expect it in march.
Re: GTA 6 Gets A New Release Date As Rockstar Delays To May 2026
Obvious delay. Can't remember last Rockstar game that shipped without a delay.
But kudos to Rockstar to announce delay now. Because they were blueballing entire industry so devs and publishers didn't know when to place their game during late 2025.
Re: Xbox Price Hike 'Just The Beginning' For The Industry, Says Analyst
@AirForceMetroid What? Yes. Tarrifs existed in past, but they were employed strategically to protect certain industries. But this was in time when you could effectively sourced whole product from your country.
Which isn't true anymore. For example, you can't just dig minerals that are required to make chips from anywhere lol. Same for materials for batteries on EVs. Doing tariff war in time when whole trade is interconnected and to make one car you are sourcing materials/components from whole world is dumbest idea on Earth.
Like what the ***** you think will happen? Do you really think Apple will start manufacturing iPhones in USA? Do you know how much that iPhone would cost considering cost of labor lol? How much do you think manufacturing of Xbox/PS consoles in US would cost? You can effectively double a price of current PS5 and Series X and you probably have a landing spot.
These price hikes are happening because companies want to protect themselves from idiot president who tends to wake up and make new ***** without thinking and without reason.
Re: Xbox Price Hike 'Just The Beginning' For The Industry, Says Analyst
Now imagine how much next-gen consoles will cost...
Re: Xbox's Latest Shadow Drop Was A Problem For Us, Says Indie Publisher
Outside of plenty of "smoke" from insiders regarding exact week when Oblivion would be drop, it's really hard to harm nobody when you are releasing your game considering there are multiple game released every day
Re: Opinion: Xbox Game Pass Is On A Ridiculous Hot Streak Right Now
@Ricky-Spanish Game Pass is Xbox!
Re: Indiana Jones PS5 Fans Not Happy With Xbox's Physical Media Habits
@NishimuraX You probably didn't "get" my post. But okay.
Hilarious to me is reaction like if it's first time this happened. Not fact that gamers have "less choice." I already made my choice. I don't care if physical continues to exist for next 50 years for others to buy.
Fact that even consoles are moving towards digital is not "me championing that" but reality. Even Nintendo in my region is starting pricing physical games to be more expensive (as they should have been from beginning) than digital in obvious attempt to move players towards digital. PS5 Pro releasing without BD drive is obvious attempt to test adoption rate of external BD drive before next-gen and Xbox and PS making handhelds will move even more players towards digital.
Also, you have ability to buy Xbox digital games outside of Xbox Store, just like Steam games. So "less choice" is interesting way to frame that lol.
All and all, market has decided. Microsoft don't see a worth of "printing" second disc just to fit whole game on physical edition. They probably know that people are mainly buying physical games because they want to resell them (which they can even if full game is not on disc) or they want to put that case on shelf so they can have good vibes from it. And amount of people who will not buy Indy on PS5 just because BD just hold 20GB is just miniscule.
And expecting Microsoft to treat PS5 users in some kind of privileged position is foolish. The moment I saw how much GB Indy takes and how Xbox physical version was released, I knew that this exact treatment would be there for PS version. And that's not me saying that I agree with Microsoft. I'm just stating the obvious.
Re: Indiana Jones PS5 Fans Not Happy With Xbox's Physical Media Habits
It's hilarious reading these meltdowns while I personally haven't bought physical game since 2017 lol.
And while I don't fully understand it, it was expected. Microsoft for sure won't treat PS users as some kind of special breed. Indy has 125GB which would mean getting two discs in case. And Microsoft is clearly not willing to do that. So I expect DOOM TGA to be the same.
It's maybe a shock for PS users, since PS is more prevalent in terms of physical discs. Seeing cries about FH5 not getting physical version or this is funny. But not surprising. Xbox is already 90% digital. First party even more (because of Game Pass).
Re: Lots Of Activision Blizzard Games Aren't On Xbox Game Pass Yet, But Why?
I call ***** on this one.
Okay, if there are some problems with licensing, deal with those problems. But I doubt there are any problems with releasing Modern Warfare 2 (new one) or even Vanguard or Black ops Cold War on Game Pass. They are modern games and I doubt there are any problems with licensing.
I just think they are not bringing them to Game Pass, because Black Ops 6 is their moneymaker and they are afraid that people will back to the games that can't be monetised that well.
Re: Xbox Reporter 'Pretty Sure' New Console Is Set To Launch In 2027
It's pretty clear that Microsoft can't launch new Xbox as a closed ecosystem. It would too niche and devs would probably stop supporting it.
So making a PC with Xbox shell sounds pretty logical. But it's a case of "how will you implement." Because on paper it sounds good.
We would have access to many more games thanks to PC ecosystem including PlayStation games. It would basically solve "will devs support a platform" problem. But there are many questions that needs to be answered.
Re: Gears Collection & E-Day Both Mentioned In New Xbox Release Dates Rumour
so we have a "insider" fight
One is claiming that Fable was delayed to create a space for Gears of War E-Day and other Xbox releases
Other is claiming that there is no GoW E-Day for 2025 but we will have Gears collection this year.
We shall see in June.
Re: CoD Leaker Doubles Down On Belief That Xbox's Next Console Will Arrive In 2026
I'm more interested in vision of Xbox ecosystem moving forward. It's pretty clear that it doesn't make sense for Xbox to make closed ecosystem like they used to do, because with them moving to multiplatform releases, it would be death sentence for the hardware and support from third-party devs.
I don't have plans to leave Xbox ecosystem, so I would be obviously interested into new hardware. Series X will be 6 years old and it have served me well. So I would welcome more horsepower even for higher price.
Re: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3+4 Set To Release This July For Xbox Series X|S
@RetroMan71 Yeah, but that isn't first-party game
Re: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3+4 Set To Release This July For Xbox Series X|S
Feb: Avowed
April: South of Midnight
May: DOOM: The Dark Ages
June: Showcase
July: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3+4
Rest of 2025: COD 2025, Gears Collection (rumored), The Outer Worlds 2, Ninja Gaiden 4
Not bad Xbox, not bad
Re: Five Guesses For The 'Legendary' Surprise At Xbox Developer Direct This Week
My guess is Resident Evil 9.
There were plenty of rumors that game will come out this year. So it's a time announce it.
Re: Xbox's Big Surprise For Developer Direct Is Reportedly A Legendary Japanese IP
@MrMagic it says "new entry"
I don't think FF XVI classifies as "new entry" since that game was released 2 years ago...
Re: Xbox Developer Direct Returns This Month To Highlight Four 2025 Titles
@GeorgeKal It makes sense if my theory is correct. If they are releasing all D_D games in first half of 2025, it really doesn't make sense to include Fable there. Especially since there will be summer showcase.
To me, bigger issue with D_D in inclusion of third-party games. I think that D_D should be reserved for first-party titles only. For third-party games, there is Partner Preview.
Re: Xbox Developer Direct Returns This Month To Highlight Four 2025 Titles
@GeorgeKal My theory is that The Outer Worlds 2 and Fable are for second half of 2025, so they will be in summer showcase. I would be surprised if Fable wasn't given "Direct" style presentation like BO6 in 2024 and Starfield in 2023
Hence SoM and Doom will be out before June. With Avowed it makes great first half of year for Xbox.
So, february for Avowed, march of SoM and may for DooM?
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Fans Divided Over Changes To 'Rewards' System
My main gripe is that Xbox Rewards are only available in small number of countries.
Which is hilarious, because Microsoft Rewards ARE available in my country. But Xbox Rewards are not.
WTF?
Re: Xbox Fans Plead With Microsoft: 'Don't Forget About Us Physical Gamers'
@themightyant 75% console games in Europe in 2024 were sold digitally. And this number only covers AAA/AA games that tend to skew more for physical copies.
On Xbox, only 19% of AAA/AA games in Europe were sold in form of physical copies. 32% for PlayStation. Switch is holding, but digital share is also growing.
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/how-digital-is-the-video-games-market-in-2024
Re: Xbox Fans Plead With Microsoft: 'Don't Forget About Us Physical Gamers'
It's pretty obvious which way wind is blowing. And not just on Xbox.
Xbox is just way ahead in share of digital sales. But PS5 Pro already came out with BD drive as optional accessory, and I fully expect that next Xbox and PS6 will both be without BD drive out of the box with option to connect one.
And publishers will move away from retail towards style that Remedy implemented with AW2. Digital only release and then some kind of physical limited release few months after release.
Re: Surprise! Death Stranding Director's Cut Is Now Available On Xbox Series X|S
@UnusedBabyWipes OG game is published by Sony. On PlayStation. But Sony still owns IP. So as I said. There is no way 505 Games could have released Xbox port without Sony saying "okay, you can do that"
EDIT: Okay. Now I'm reading that KojiPro secured Death Stranding IP. https://automaton-media.com/articles/newsjp/20241107-317236/
Which probably means that Death Stranding 2 on Xbox is matter of "when" not "if"
Re: Surprise! Death Stranding Director's Cut Is Now Available On Xbox Series X|S
I wonder if it is some kind of exception, or it is Sony dipping their toes.
Because there is no way that they haven't signed off this port since it's build on Decima (engine that Horizon games are built on) and Sony also owns the IP.
Re: PlayStation's Wolverine Director Now Working On Perfect Dark For Xbox
Drew Murray left The Initiative to work on Wolverine
Horton left Insomniac to work on Perfect Dark
that's funny tbh
But no surprising. Horton is former Crystal Dynamics guy, so he knows Darrel Gallagher pretty well.
Re: Roundup: All The Reveals From October 2024's Xbox Partner Preview Showcase
I like how Xbox finally found a structure in their presentations after they hired Tina Amini.
You have Developer_Direct for upcoming first-party games in january/february, Partner Preview in march, big blowout showcase in june, Gamescom in august, TGS in september and then another Partner Preview in october.
Every showcase has different theme and direction so you can distinguish them.
So well done.
In terms of games, that new Bloober Team game looks promising and Eternal Strands on GP is great news since I wanted to pick up the game.
Re: Xbox's Hi-Fi RUSH Studio Tango Gameworks Revived, Acquired By PUBG Publisher
I don't understand why are people bitching about it.
It's honestly good. Microsoft clearly wasn't interested in Tango, but they at least found a company that is interested in Tango.
Hi-Fi Rush 2 will be on Xbox.
Fine.
Only bad thing about this whole situation was their stupidity to announce closure of studio and dealing with PR disaster, while they found buyer few months later. It would be preferable to first find a partner and announce a sale. Like with Toys for Bob.
Re: Xbox Will Reportedly Tone Down Its Game Pass Messaging For Call Of Duty: Black Ops 6
Microsoft during CMA trial said that they can't put COD on Game Pass until 2025 implying that Sony have marketing deal.
But since they are putting Black Ops 6 in Game Pass in 2024, I guess that they altered the deal with Sony.
And that's not me saying that this is exactly what happened. I just think that this is huge probability of what happened.
Re: Take-Two CEO Says 'Rational Decisions' Result In No Day One Xbox Game Pass Releases
I mean...duh?
It's obvious rational for him as a third-party publisher. He knows that GTA VI will sell tens of millions of copies, so he is in comfortable position saying that.
On the other hand it's hilarious that he is saying that considering he recently slashed entire publishing division on it's knees (Private Division). Also, he is fortunate enough to have GTA Online and NBA 2K funding his company for years on end.
Also, even if he wanted to create sub service, it isn't feasible for Take-Two considering fact that they are only able to make 2-3 games per year, which is just not enough.
Re: It's Official, Xbox's Avowed Has Been Delayed Until 2025
@fizban3332 What?
This is exactly the thing Microsoft is doing - spacing games. They have 9 pieces of games/expansions for next 5 months. Without Avowed.
Also, I really doubt that Fable was even considered for early 2025. It always sound like "late 2025" game and we will be glad if it even make it for 2025.
What a dumb take.
Re: Xbox First-Party RPG Avowed Reportedly Delayed Until Early 2025
I'm kinda okay with it.
With how dumb Microsoft's strategy of releasing games usually is (releasing every game in second half), spreading games is nice change of pace.
They already have huge amount of content for rest of this year. And Dragon Age is also releasing in fall. And november is packed with games especially after Stalker 2 delay into november.
So having
Q1 - Avowed, South of Midnight
Q2 - Doom The Dark Ages
Q3 - Fable
Q4 - Call of Duty 2025
With few other games sprinkled? Sounds good to me.
Re: Call Of Duty Currency Now Discounted On Xbox Thanks To Game Pass
@themightyant I think Microsoft know what have they written into contract with Sony and Nintendo. I have no doubt that this was triple-checked.
Re: Microsoft Provides More Detail On Its New Xbox Game Pass Standard Tier
@Ricky-Spanish It's hilarious that you are talking about this like it was unexpected and you are implying that someone lied to us, when literally PC Gamer's story about this is
"The long-awaited changes to Microsoft's subscription services have arrived"
Re: Microsoft Provides More Detail On Its New Xbox Game Pass Standard Tier
@PsBoxSwitchOwner Saying that PS Plus Extra is doing day 1 stuff is pretty generous tbh. Because since launch of the service there were maybe 5 games that were released day one(Stray, Sea of Stars, Animal Well, Dave the Diver and Tales of Kenzera). None of the was first-party.
Also, Standard is not getting first-party games day one. But that doesn't mean that it won't get third-party games day one
Re: Microsoft Provides More Detail On Its New Xbox Game Pass Standard Tier
@PsBoxSwitchOwner Well, it currently have. If it won't have I will stop subbing. Because day one releases are main point of subbing for me.
Even at 17,99€, Ultimate is well worth to me. Next year I would had to buy Doom The Dark Ages, Fable, South of Midnight and plenty other games that will be in Game Pass. Only those three full priced games covers my yearly Ultimate payment.
Re: Microsoft Provides More Detail On Its New Xbox Game Pass Standard Tier
@Ricky-Spanish What? How can it be "not in the news," but Spencer said it? If he said it, you probably read it somewhere. And if you read it, googling it takes probably 15 seconds.
But you can't find it, because he didn't said it. Not recently. Fact that he was talking about "holding prices" in 2021 is pretty irrelevant in 2024 after inflation surge.
And that's not me defending Microsoft. Every price increase is bad for consumer. But this price increase was pretty much telegraphed months in advance for everyone who is reading Xbox news. So many people around Microsoft (like Tom Warren) was talking about it, that expecting no price increase was stupid. It was just about "how big of a price increase"
Re: Microsoft Provides More Detail On Its New Xbox Game Pass Standard Tier
@Ricky-Spanish Who lied about price increase?
I mean, for last few months it was obvious that they will increase prices. Tom Warren talked about this and Microsoft execs also implied it.
Re: Microsoft Provides More Detail On Its New Xbox Game Pass Standard Tier
@Ooccoo_Jr Point is to offer bad value with Standard to "force" people to sub for Ultimate.
I mean...for additional 4$ per month you are getting first-party games in subscription day one.
Re: Xbox's Chief Marketing Officer Is Leaving Microsoft To Join Roblox
I wonder why they won't sack Greenberg...
Re: Xbox Apparently Could Have Shown Much More At This Year's Showcase
I'm not going to hold my expectations for Gamescom. Maybe Towerborne release date...
Honestly, I don't think we currently need any more games being showcased this year. Yea, their Showcase lacked some games that were announced ages ago (mainly Everwild and Contraband), but current Microsoft focus should be on fall and holiday period.
They have stacked last three months of the year. ARA, Age of Mythology and Stalker 2 in september, COD in october, Avowed and Flight sim in november and Indy in december. Make sure you are tying those releases to Game Pass and consoles (especially Call of Duty). Be aggressive with pricing.
And if those games will pan out in expected quality, then you can talk about more games in January.
There would be nothing better like Developer_Direct with Fable, South of Midnight and Doom after stacked late 2024.
Then prepare next showcase for june 2025 with new announcements.
Re: New Xbox Showcase Rumour Hints At Plenty Of Surprises This Sunday
@BBB ESO just launched an expansion. So I doubt game will be at showcase
Re: New Xbox Showcase Rumour Hints At Plenty Of Surprises This Sunday
So..to recap
Will be there: Indiana Jones and the Golden Circle, Starfield Shattered Space, Avowed, Call of Duty: Black Ops 6, Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024
Probably will be there: Towerborne, ARA, Age of Mythology Retold, Diablo IV: Vessel of Hatred
Heavily hinted: Gears 6, Doom: The Dark Ages, Silksong, Dragon Age 4
Less heavily hinted: Perfect Dark, State of Decay 3, Assassin's Creed Shadows
That's 16 from 30
And another unannounced first-party games? Good lord.
Re: Xbox's New Microsoft Rewards Quest Gives You 1000+ Points Per-Month
More important question is when will Microsoft start to support this in more countries...
Re: NBA 2K24 Seemingly Has A Pretty Short Xbox Game Pass Contract
Not surprising. September is release month for new NBA 2K game so I expect that Take-Two would want to funnel players there
Re: Poll: Which Games Will Get Release Dates At Xbox Developer Direct?
Hellblade 2, Avowed and ARA will get release dates. Indiana Jones will get general "2024" release with release date revealed at their summer showcase.
Re: Bethesda's Indiana Jones Game Reportedly Set To Launch This Year
@NeutronBomb Well. Game Pass is everything for Microsoft and it's growth is bedrock of future of Xbox business. And what is the better way to grow a Game Pass then with most popular yearly shooter?
To me, only thing that could prevent COD 2024 being day one in Game Pass is when SOny still have marketing deal which would prevent this possibility.
But I can also imagine Microsoft trying to put ABK games into Game Pass Ultimate exclusively.