I'm somewhere between Never and only Certain Titles because I have and would replay Certain Titles IF they were fully remade and expanded and/or amended to bring something New to the game so its not 'exactly' the same with just a 4k/60 (or 120) and slightly higher polygon ount and higher quality textures (probably the 'Originals they had to 'reduce' in quality for that generation.
I don't enjoy movies or cover versions of songs that basically copy the Original as closely as they possibly can. I don't want the 'same' experience I had back then and I won't get the 'same' experience now just because it 'looks' and plays better. Its still an OLD game and so many 'newer' games have expanded and built upon those old games that they feel 'old' and 'dated', in need of a 'remake', built with the masses of resources they have access to today, not limited and restricted by old hardware to really make the game as they really envisioned or would make today....
I completed everything in the main game so have never felt the need to return - although I have been tempted by the DLC but as time goes on, its not been a priority...
@smoreon Only notifications I get are the ones telling me I have enough points to redeem for a £25 gift card after making ANY purchase on Xbox. As soon as I get the points from Purchasing added to my tally, it automatically generates that message.
Of course I have enough points, I have nearly 200k at time of writing - about 1k pts to go. Thats enough for 7-8 £25 gift vouchers so I should think I have 'enough' points without being told I have enough points after every purchase - even those I used 'some' points to convert to money to pay for the item...
Enjoyed the Beta but it felt a LOT like BF3 - arguably one of the best eras of Battlefield - but also plays like Battlefield. Its not that innovative, more like they've tried to get back to what made Battlefield as big as it was - and quite successfully. Although still can't manage to do a campaign as memorable as BF:BC2.
With their BR mode coming and we still don't really know how they intend to monetise Post Launch content etc, I am still reluctant to buy. I do enjoy MP - the Big Map modes as a change of Pace and different style of Game-play loop from other FPS games, but its not my 'favourite' in terms of gunplay, movement and moment to moment action. Its always been that 'something similar, yet very different' FPS game when I need a change to avoid burn-out and/or frustration...
The games looked incredible on my RoG Ally (OG) considering its form factor and equivalent devices. As someone that grew up before even the Gameboy era and remembers Nintendo Game & Watch games, to see games running on a Handheld device that you'd only expect to see on 'big' Hardware with huge relative Power/power consumption is remakable.
I struggle to use my RoG Ally - not because it isn't capable, but because of the ergonomics and desiign philosophy of Handhelds - that small, slim device leads to compromises on the ergonomics. You can't have big comfortable grips to hold on to if you want to keep it 'slim' and better to shrink the thumbsticks and all buttons/controls to 70% scale to reduce size etc. However, I find both exceptionally uncomfortable/awkward to use as my Muscle memory is established on full size controllers.
I have had drift issues, most notably on the Left thumbstick probably due to the click/hold to run mechanic - but that was years ago. I would prefer Hall effect, but I expect to upgrade before I need to replace due to issues. I don't expect it to be 'competitive' or 'worth' repairing in 4-5yrs time - it will probably be worth 'upgrading' to a newer Handheld PC.
As stylisic as the game was - some may love that ttype of Aesthetic - it neverr had any Substance to what the Game-play aspect was. It was 'sold' on its looks alone and the past 5-10yrs have been spent trying to decide what game to build with this aesthetic....
@Fiendish-Beaver I'm in my my mid 50's too so not into ultra-competitive game-modes but love playing Zombies and Warzone Casual which has few actual Human Enemies - until the end phase, but if you've survived that long, you have decent weapons/perks to compete.
I log into CoD daily and do the Daily Zombie challenges (Solo) then jump into Warzone and/or MP for a 'few' matches. I don't know if the end game is strictly co-op or whether it will be playable Solo. Of course Call of Duty, known for its Online Social Gaming may well present just 'co-operative' game-play, but could allow you to play Solo - like DMZ or Zombies.
I'm not too keen on the 'hallocenegenic' campaign missions, I've never finished BO3's campaign (I think it was BO3 that was 'trippy' - but I think they are all mostly Hollywood's view of what a 'war' is - that small 'squad' taking on entire nations armies or private well equipped merceneries with just a basic 'small arms' loadout against tanks and Helicopters but still 'entertaining' to play through...
@Fiendish-Beaver I will be playing the campaign - at least I intend to start playing and if it keeps my interest until the end, great. The Campaign, as I understand it, can be played Solo - just like Gears of War, but can also be played co-operatively. I don't know what the 'end' game entails and whether orb not that can be played Solo too, but I will never play a Co-op Campaign without first playing it through Solo.
Nothing annoys me more than other players rushing through co-op campaigns as quick as possible, talking over game dialogue or having their 'own' agenda.
I will certainly be playing Zombies - mostly Solo as I never play with Rando's and Warzone Casuals - at over 50, I don't really want to play ultra competititive people etc. I enjoy a bit of MP - usually Hardcore as its a case of get the first bullet on target to win - to get daily challenges done, but I don't play MP that much...
@MrStark It's that aspect, having to use the 'credit' within a set-time, that really annoys me about these. I only use my points now when I remember just before 'buying' a game - I'll only convert enough to pay for the majority of the game without going over, and pay the rest with cash - it can be nice paying just 2.97 for a 52.97 bundle for example.
@Kaloudz Yeah I really enjoyed the Beta - both the MP and Zombies. Both seem a lot like BO6 but with more refinement and tweaks - the best change though is their Map Design and return to more traditional 3 lanes which really does improve the flow and alleviates some frustration.
The campaign does seem somewhat 'misleading' for the rest of the package - but I do like the idea of it being playable co-operatively and has an 'end-game' mode too. I do like Linear great story single player campaigns, but I also appreciate them trying something different, experimental.
Many don't even touch the Campaign and few of those that do actually complete it so them trying something different with its co-op option, own Camo grind and end game may get more people playing it.
I still haven't finished BO6 campaign or MW3's or MW2's before that. I'm currently enjoying the Haunting event in BO7 and over 80% complete on this seasons BP too - mostly from Zombies and Warzone...
I'll be playing BO7 in November - whether I choose to keep Ultimate or decide to drop down a tier or two. I've played BO6 pretty much 'daily' even if just for an hour or two to get Daily missions completed so I'll get my value from all the hours I'll play over the year.
I played the Beta and whilst I will say its the 'best' BF MP I've played, probably since the BF3/4 era of Battlefields, I don't think it offers the best Campaign and we still don't really know how their Post Launch content and its monetisation will look.
I don't buy games at launch as I think that's ALWAYS the worst time to buy. The Price is at its highest, content at its most basic and/or the code is often at its least Optimised too. With games costing over £50, now £70 at launch, I really see no reason to buy until its on sale or offered in a Sub tier. I also dislike the 'benefits' to PS users over those on PC and Xbox so I refuse to 'buy' on PS to support that practice - just like I nevber bought Hogwarts - although still considering buying it 'now' on Xbox with Play Anywhere.
Play Anywhere too will factor in to my Gaming purchasing in the future as I intend to play 'more' on PC's - and I think MS will eventually (if not 'next' gen) will only make 'PC' hardware. I think their 'console' (in design) will emulate Series Xbox so all their 'old' games, games you can play today on Series Hardware from the handful of OG Xbox games, 360 to XB1 and Series Games. But all 'new' Xbox releases will be 'Windows Xbox PC' games - games you can run on 'ANY' Windows PC, not just their 'own' Console.
The reason, they are already making games for PC and so don't need to port and optimise to a second Platform at extra cost and all their games are 'Play Anywhere' so cutting the 'Console' costs would be a big Financial reason. Their work with Asus on Windows too, in collaboration with the Xbox OS team, will help them 'optimise' Windows for gaming and provide a 'console' like interface.
To me, the RoG Xbox Allys are indicative of their future so unless Games have Play Anywhere and/or at a reasonable price to 'me', I'm not buying 'new' games.
@TrollOfWar Each to their own dude... I like Digital more at the moment but that's because I'm Jumping between Hardware and its so much easier to have your games on various devices/platforms and to be able to play without needing a 'physical' key to access.
Just going between my Xbox Series X and RoG Ally or Laptop PC is so easy and neither my PC's have Physical drives for Xbox discs. But because I bought Digital, I have games I can install and play natively anytime I want. even swich between games (or hardware) without needing to use any Physical keys to play.
When I upgraded from XB1X to XSX, all my Digital games were instantly in my Library ready to install and play. Pro's and Cons to both Physical and Digital it just depends on which works best for you. I haven't bought 'Physical' games since probably Dead Space remake and don't think I will again. I rarely play my Physical collection because it involves swapping Discs every time where as my Digital games are instantly playable...
To me, the modern day 'Cartridge' is basically the Plug-in SSD Storage cards on Xbox. You can install ALL your Digital games on the SSD and as soon as you plug it in, you can load into any of the games straight away, switch between them easily etc and then replace the Card for a completely different Library as Console internal Storage is a bit 'limited' - modern Handhelds use Cards as games and/or extra Storage...
@Coletrain I don't know that I'd use Frame Gen, I'd ratherhave 40fps and VRR than the game running at 38fps but looking like its running at 76ish fps.due to increase latency and 'slight' cost of generating frames.
I'm OK with using Upscaling methods to deliver Higher Frame Rates than Native 1080p and FSR 3.0 isn't that bad on a BIG screen, let alone 7" one.
I've never messed around with Sharpening, the games have not looked like they need it and I don't like the artefacts if over sharpened...
I'm not convinced the Console market will be the 'best' option for next gen. Obviously if you have existing Libraries on those platforms, carrying them forward is a massive incentive to keep you locked in, keep you paying monthly Subs for Social gaming and access to all content/features at the very least.
If Microsoft were to release a 'PC' in a Console like format designed for living under a TV in a living room setting, with a built in chip that 'emulates' their Series X console (all games and BC games series X plays, the Series X versions) so it carries forward my Xbox Console Library, I'd leave the Console space regardless of what Sony/Nintendo do.
I'd rather save the 'Essential' tier fee and Hardware costs on a Console to spend more on PC hardware and Sony releases their games on PC eventually so I'd have more than enough Great games to play. If MS's PC incurs a Sub thoughfor Online access, or BC with previous consoles, I'd consider buying a Gaming PC and keeping my PS5/Series X for my 'old' Console games
AMD are working closely with both MS and Sony because they know they both have Experience in making Consoles and their own Developers to tap into for feedback on issues and needs.
Consoles are generally 'cheap' and punch well above their specs - due to design/features not 'universal' or used in the PC space - like separate Audio Processing cores instead of using GPU cores or designing for efficiency over 'brute force' and other 'bespoke' parts that somehow make the Consoles punch above even AMD's equivalent GPU's on PC.
If they lean into Sony and MS and their Dev Studios who have games in development and 'issues' they face to get them running as well as they'd want - transfering Data fast enough is either a case of increasing Bandwidth or coming up with a Universal compression method to send more data through without increasing bandwidth. MS had Sampler Feedback to 'reduce' the data, only send the 'required' Data that would be seen/used - not the full Data so could send only a certain part of a texture map instead of the whole texture map - but I don't know if that is used much or puts too much work/effort on Devs to ensure those Textures can be 'broken' into parts for more efficient downloading.
Point is, its in AMDs best interest to work with Console Maufacturers with their own Dev studios and get useful tips, tricks and information on how they've managed to make 'cheap' hardware so performant - they want to close the Gap to nVidia but also be more affordable and/or more 'open' with their 'features' like FSR.
Good luck, the future is dependent on the Games you make and what they are competing with when released. Even great games can end studio's if they don't get the 'returns' they expected.
Lets be honest here, some games will always release on Last gen whether they should have or not, just because the Publisher knows they'll make more money.
CoD BO3 released on XB360/PS3 hardware - yet had to drop the Campaign and 3 of the 4 DLC packs. Graphically, the game looked VERY different but it still sold. Titanfall got a 360 release too and that had to cut a lot of the Atmosphere from the game, the local wildlife around and on the map.
Having played BO7 beta and BO6 this year, I see little/no reason that BO7 wouldn't release on last gen if BO6 gets all content on last gen. After all, these were both built alongside each other on the SAME engine for the past 4-5yrs.
BF6 with its much larger player counts, vehicles and Physics - gun-play (no hitscan like CoD), destruction etc so arguably a lot more difficult to port to last gen with its very basic CPU's that basically killed Destruction and Physics based games.
To be honest, it feels like physical media has never truly been the same since the end of the Xbox 360 / PS3 era and start of the Xbox One / PS4 era.
That's because the start of the PS4/XB1 gen was the start of games having to be 'installed' on internal storage to run - they generally ceased to run 'from disc' so the disc just became a 'delivery' method and License Key. Despite the software being installed on your system, unless you put the disc in, it would not run as it requires a 'valid licence' (on the disc) to access the software.
It doesn't matter whether they had supplied ALL the game on several discs, only one would have the Licence and the other is basically obsolete once you've installed the game anyway. I get that in 20yrs+ time when the Hardware is no longer able to connect to the internet, if you've deleted your game, you can't 're-install' from Disc to play - but if you've kept it installed, the disc still grants access and if you don't want to keep it, you can sell your Licence/Game too.
These days though, Physical Discs are nothing more than a Licence key holder as Publishers 'deliver' their software to your internal SSD via multiple methods to keep their costs down...
@cragis0001 The free tier with perhaps a few hours of stream time and Ads to watch to get 'free' time to stream - at the lowest quality with longest wait times too. The new 'Ultimate' tier promises the highest quality streaming (1440p) and shortest wait times and its only certain games too.
Sony would have to agree to make their game available on 'Xbox' as one of the 'Play your Own' games via streaming so that anyone who wants to stream a few games 'free' would need to buy it on that hardware just to stream it for free. Otherwise Sony would have to let MS put their game into their Game Pass collection so that it can be streamed 'Free' so no/little revenue coming in...
Sony have (or had) a deal with MS and their Azure Cloud system to develop their OWN streaming - which arguably they do offer - with their Portal and PS+ streaming options. You can stream to mobiles and other devices (I Believe) and like I said, PC has Streaming services too - like GeForce Now and sell their games on Steam/Epic too.
Those kids aren't really buying games - they are mostly playing games like Fortnite, Roblox, Apex, Warzone etc so maybe will be enticed by streaming a 'few' games for 'Free' as Fortnite is often included in that...
Sony want to get those players into their Ecosystem, not stream, buy or play on their Rivals hardware so I really do think that them helping MS to build up their 'Streaming' service and platform is extremely unlikely...
@Coletrain I've played a few 'new' release AAA games on my OG RoG Ally - games like FH5 and Doom Eternal and both games ran 'OK' but I really do struggle with the ergonomics. The 70% scaled down Controls really mess ith my Muscle Memory and struggle to hit the buttons - so I tended to play very 'simple' control games. I struggled with Doom but FH6 was ok - brake, accelerate and steer only settings.
To me, the biggest upgrade over the first gen RoG Ally, and even the improved Ally X, is the 'full size' Controller grips, thumbsticks and buttons. The chance to upgrade to a newer 'upgraded' Z2E chip is almost secondary as I never really struggled to play games at reasonable settings (obviously not 1080p on a 1080p display) and over 30fps which I consider a 'minimum' frame rate requirement. But even at 40 or 50fps, the VRR screen was its biggest benefit over other Z1E devices.
Its still a very good Handheld and still a worthy device. Certainly great for the vast majority of games released, but maybe will need to be 'boosted' or you'll have to make a bit more compromise to run certain New AAA games at 30fps or more.
It just depends on the games you want to play on the go - including potential future releases like GTA6 or GTAO, I play mostly on Series X but I want a decent Handheld that feels like a Controller in my hand and plays the games I want when I can't get on my XSX. If I want to play BO7 or BF6 whilst the TV is in use, I want that option - even if its more of a struggle on a 7" screen. Zombies shouldn't be too bad and campaigns too...
@Coletrain Yeah - it's designed to be Competitive with the new wave of Handheld PC's and a Price Point to match. Its the cheapest of the Z2E and has AI NPU's unlike the others.
The cheaper version is designed more to compete with Steamdecks and Switch 2 devices - of course you can probably buy 'discontinued' Z1E hardware - both new old stock and used but they aren't really 'competing' as they are the same Platform essentially. It's form factor, Xbox branding and UI are supposed to appeal more to Xbox gamers looking for Handheld devices at a similar cost to Steamdeck or Switch 2.
I saw little point in going for this as I have a RoG ally that 'competes' with those other devices, I wanted something more powerful and more ergonomic...
@Hapless @Coletrain As I said, I had done my research and searched around - the sources also indicated that but Obviously I am the one that is misinformed - so I apologise. Even searching on Google though, the Z2A is designed to operate better at Low Power and compete with Steamdeck and its price point.
I have the Z2E Xbox Ally X on pre-order myself so wasn't overly concerned about the specs/architecture of the base. I'm upgrading from Z1E which isn't great when starved of power - but all Z1E devices are still part of the Windows Handheld PC pltforms and basically offer the same Library etc.
I guess we will wait and see what DF makes of these and how the base model compares with the likes of Steamdeck, its most direct competitor...
@Coletrain Nope - I did my research and checked, double checked this morning too after your message.
The Z2A Zen 5 with 3 Performance and 5 Efficiency cores - so you still have 8 cores/16 threads, but unlike Z1E with '8' Zen 4 cores, they can't all be boosted to 5.1ghz.
The GPU though is RDNA 3.5 with 16cores - compared to the 12 cores of RDNA 3.0 in Z1E. A Simple search provided this:- Graphics: The Z1E features a capable RDNA 3 GPU, suitable for gaming but with limitations compared to newer architectures. The Z2A's RDNA 3.5 GPU provides enhanced graphical capabilities, making it a better choice for graphics-intensive applications and gaming.
Power Efficiency: The Z2A is designed with power efficiency in mind, making it more suitable for battery-operated devices, while the Z1E may consume more power under heavy loads.
So I don't know where you got your misinformation from, but all the official information I can find would tell you that the Z2A is built on newer architecture (Zen 5 and RDNA 3.5 compared to Zen 4 and RDNA 3.0)
@Coletrain Z1E is Zen 4 and Z2A is Zen 5 with 3 performance and 5 efficiency cores and as for GPU, the Z1E is RDNA 3 whilst Z2A is RDNA 3.5. The AMD Ryzen Z1E is better suited for users who prioritize raw processing power and high clock speeds, particularly for gaming and intensive applications. In contrast, the AMD Ryzen Z2A offers a more balanced approach with improved graphics performance and power efficiency, making it ideal for portable devices. In other words, it will work better at '15w' but maybe won't be as performant at 35w - which is better for battery life - not having to 'boost' because its not that efficient when power starved.
So sorry to burst your bubble but your information is wrong - the newer chip is newer Archetecture designed to be more eficient at 'lower' power so you don't have to 'boost' to 25 or 35w and drain the battery. It will play games like Doom: the Dark ages at over 30fps and 'Compete' with its Rivals - the Steamdeck and Switch 2. The Z1E Handheld PC's, inc the first gen Ally's , Lenovos or MSi models are NOT competition as they are still MS Windows PC's with Microsoft Game Pass and their PC platform ready to go, awaiting the update o the new Windows and UI. They are just different 'choices' to basicaly do the same thing with exactly the same Library, platforms etc.
The RoG Xbox Ally is built and priced to compete Directly with Steamdeck and Switch 2. All other Handheld PC's, inc used Z1E devices are all just different choices to the same 'Platform'.
Been with Xbox for nearly 25 years, playing Halo CE, a 'adult' game (or at least a teenager game) and then being asked to prove you are over 18 is somewhat ridiculous.
I'm sure that certain things in your HISTORY should be indicative of age even if they can'tt 'verify' exactly how old you are. I'm well over 50 and find it very insulting to prove my age. I think my Email account is over 25yrs old so that 'digital' record/footprint etc should prove I'm over 18
This device and the costs of their Console and its services seems to me that MS want to push you to PC Gaming and preferably on their Platform and services there. Their next gaming Hardware will be a PC that just boots to the Xbox FSE UI with the Windows desktop and all the switched off process just a click or 3 away. This could be the 'precursor' of the Xbox future at least 'Hardware' based.
Their gaming PC will just be Windows optimised for gaming running Xbox FSE by default with at most some 'emulation' chip built in for emulating their Consoles for Back Compat with your 'Digital' Libraries on those different eras of console.
That's why they dropped their own - and why the Xbox Ally exists to compete in the same Price range as Switch 2 and Steamdeck - all other handheld PC's (used and/or different brands) are still Microsoft Windows devices with their own ecosystem on it so essentially the same - and will be when they get the Windows update.
They couldn't make a 'Steamdeck' contender to play the games you play on your Series consoles at Steamdeck or better, with the same 'feel' as an Xbox controller for around the same money with such limited quanity manufacturing so its better to work with Asus to build more of that 'Xbox' console influenced Handheld PC with its ergonomics, OS and UI redesign.
@DonkeyFantasy M2 2280 are much more available than the more niche M2 2230 SSDs so ease is relative I guess...
Anyway, I've always advocated choice and each to their own as well - I was just pointing out WHY someone may choose This device over the Alternatives in its price range - its direct competitors are Steamdeck and Switch 2 - the others are just preferential choice or budget as ALL Windows Handheld PC's are essentially the SAME family with the SAME library and 'Xbox' and Game Pass crossover.the difference between this and other PC's is ergonomics and that dashboad - the 7" LCD 120hz VRR screen was considered the 'best' in class in the first gen handhelds and looks great on my RoG Ally (OG Version). Used doesn't come with the same warranty and piece of mind - also they should get the OS/UI at some point so are a good option, still in the same category/ecosystems etc.
The point of this device was to be as 'affordable' as Steamdeck and still be as performant at similar power levels (but can be boosted) whilst also providing the 'Xbox' ergonomics and UI, able to play ALL your Play Anywhere/Game Pass games at no 'extra' cost where as the other hardware, you'd need to buy games as well. The 'Xbox' branding and 'emphasis' on GP and Play Anywhere is designed to make the 'cross-over' into 'PC Gaming' from Xbox consoles relatively comfortably and seemlessly as possible. The Xbox Ally X is to be the 'latest' gen to compete with MSi and Lenovo Devices for Performance/graphics - although this does have AI NPU's the others don't so could be interesting in the future...
Anyway, I still believe CHOICE is best - and ALL I was pointing out it's unique features it hopes to convince people to buy vs it's competitors in its 'Price' range. The Xbox Ally is not competing with 'used' products reall, its competing against the 'new' handhelds and that is the higher end Steamdecks and/or Switch 2 hardware as the 'current' market has.
MS Built one to compete more with 'Consoles' at their Price point and a high end one to compete with the new PC releases too. The compromises to reach that price point to be 'competitive' and a 'choice' for those people deciding to jump in may come down to how each 'feels' in the hand more than which plays Indiana Jones the 'best'.
It seems to me, Xbox want people to 'move' more to their PC Ecosystem and PC Game Pass than stay on their Console, Merge Xbox fully into Windows, even their Gaming Harrdware will be 'Windows' but boot to the FSE by default instead of the full Windows. These products may well be the pre-cursor tho their future....
@DonkeyFantasy The Z2A has much better efficoiency at the lower power end - the 15w mode and should be equivalent at the higher 25w-35w modes to deliver roughly the same graphics and performance - maybe a few points better here and there and that's if they both run Full Windows, but the Z1E chip does not get the Xbox FSE experience until next year.
Also the Z1E versions - only the OG which isn't that great is likely to be cheaper - don't have great ergonomics. They improved with their Ally X - but that is more expensive - but these have something those don't - full size Grips, buttons and thumbsticks and feels like a Xbox controller in hand. It also comes with a bigger 60w Battery over the 40w in the RoG Ally and a more easily upgradeable SSD.
From my own research on the Subject, I found out this:- The ROG Xbox Ally represents a significant evolution in handheld gaming, building on the strengths of the original ROG Ally while addressing its shortcomings. With improved ergonomics, battery life, and performance features, it is likely to appeal to gamers looking for a more comfortable and capable device. However, the original ROG Ally remains a solid option for those who may not need the latest enhancements or are looking for a more budget-friendly choice.
@DonkeyFantasy The Standard version looks pretty decent and far more comparable to the Steamdeck in both Price and performance - but unlike Steamdeck, also plays a LOT more games - like CoD, Destiny 2, GTA Online, BF6 and Valorant. It also integrates with Play Anywhere and Game Pass.
I know GPU is more expensive, but Essential/Premium tiers still offer Games and PC cross-over and their price has not increased. The lower tiers added PC crossover.
Point is, the cheaper one is to compete more with the Steamdeck/Switch 2 but offer better ergonomics and the largest Library that also syncs well with your Xbox - whether you 'want' those feature or 'prefer' the alternatives may depend on where your current Library exists, the games you want to play and even the cost to play those games on that device.
Take Indy for example - you can play it on Xbox via Game Pass or buy it digitally with Play Anywherebut if you want to finish it playing on the go without having to rebuy, then the only Native options are the Handheld PC's, Steamdeck and Switch 2 will require repurchasing. If that's what you want, then maybe the RoG Xbox Ally is the better value option.
I don't know what I expected or what to make of this. Its entirely possible that they made 'fewer' Xbox Ally X's, thinking that the price would make it less popular so sold out quicker than anticipated. Maybe they made far more Standard white versions thinking it would sell more being cheaper and perhaps got their balance 'wrong' - not enough X's to meet demand and more standard Ally's than gamers that want it...
@cragis0001 Do you really think that Sony are actively hoping that people will buy their games on Xbox to cloud stream them to whatever devices they have? PC have streaming services too of course and Sony has Portal.
Lets be honest here, the cost of porting and releasing their game on another platform, losing 30% to MS and long term support afterwards just so some kid can stream a few hours for 'free'. Unless its Play Anywhere on PC/Xbox, I don't think many will 'buy' to stream it. It won't be on Game Pass so I doubt they'll support Play Anywhere.
May as well just buy it on Steam/Epic and use a decent Streaming Service like GeForce Now...
@EVIL-C If you prefer to own a bit of plastic that you have to put in the console just to show you still have that bit of plastic, still own the License, still have the key to access the Software, installed on your Hardware - that's your choice.
However, that bit of plastic doesn't even need to contain the 'Software - its just a distribution method to Publishers. All they need to supply is the License and a Launcher to install the game from the internet.
I've only played (or should I say started) a few of their games and Brutal Legend is by far the best - but still have never finished the game. I've tried Iron Brigade, that was OK but nothing thatmade me want to keep playing and/or return, same with Psychonauts (both) and Grim Fandango because of 'hype', butreally didn't enjoy or understand the hype for these at all.
I can't say I'm a fan of Double Fine at all, none of their games appeal - but Jack Black and the soundtrack is why Brutal Legend is by far the best! I will say they have a very unique artistic style which is quite quirky, but the 'game-play' and description, trailers etc don't make me want to play - I won't play Keeper eeither...
I pre-ordered the RoG Xbox Ally X and think those results are impressive - incidentally Game Pass PC is cheaper the Game Pass Ultimate with Day 1 if you don't play on Console - although has jumped up in price.
It's a very capable gaming Handheld and you still have options to use FSR upscaling and frame gen to boost frame rates if you want. Being a 'Windows' PC too, it shouldn't be a problem with TPM Secure Boot requirements - unlike Steamdeck - NO GTAO, Destiny 2, BF6, CoD, Valorant etc....
I know its expensive but I also think its 'worth' it considering the price of Mobile Phones and the Performance for gaming this has. The ergonomics look very comfortable - like a Xbox controller, and 7" screen is 'great' on my RoG Ally. To run everything, inc the game, cooling, screen etc all on a battery in such a small package considering, its incredible. Just 10yrs ago, the idea of a Windows PC able to play games in a Handheld was a dream, Valve made it work with their OS and ecosystem so it wasn't long after.
Point is, to have that computational power in your hands in something that size is remarkable considering what was possible just 10 or even 20yrs ago, these can play games btter than Consoles from a few years back in a handheld form running on a battery...
I will never understand the cheater mindset - its no victory if you cheated for it and paying for cheats to ruin the experience for everyone is dispicable..
I've not noticed or felt like I've been killed by cheaters so it sems to be working. I've enjoyed the Beta and Zombies too and a co-op Campaign sounds interesting too - but I'll play it through solo first.
@RadioHedgeFund Personally I don't think so - I think they would rather keep those as 'Exclusive' to their Console and the only way you'll play those is when Steam/Epic are on their Hardware.
They don't have to spend money on porting, supporting and marketing, losing 30% to MS when they can do 'nothing' and reap any extra PC sales from steam/epic.
I'm sure their 'Xbox' PC (Asus RoG Xbox Ally Handheld PC's) will sell Spider-man, Horizon, God of War, R&C Last of Us etc games to play on their new Hardware if they've never owned a PC or Playstation and I'm sure IF/When MS open their Hardware to other Platforms or make more Xbox branded PC's, Sony won't port to their competition
@Questionable_Duck Exactly - that's why you've not owned the software. You can't sell it or distribute it to others - just your 'license' and that removes your access too.
Still people believe they 'own' their games when in reality all they own is Licences. Whether they can sell (general Physical License) or not (Digital), some are also conditional - like Game Pass/PS+ games that give you a license on the condition you keep your Subscription and/or remains available in that service.
That's always been the case - you've never owned the Software and only purchased a license to access that software. Of course with Physical, its always been on the Media with the Software in the past - although since the PS4/XB1 era, the Software has to be installed on internal storage so that's enabled them to supply some/all content via online as in their mind, you only bought a 'License' so as long as that is supplied, the rest can be downloaded/installed from Disc, internet or both.
Point is, you've never 'owned' the game, just a Licence to play. Hence you need to install Discs even though the entire game is installed on your Console - it can not be accessed without a Valid Licence. The only real difference is that Physical Licenses are 'generic' meaning anyone with the Physical media can access the Software so easily sold/traded. Digital though is more specific and locked to your account/profile so only you can access but cannot be sold.
I'd buy one day 1 but whether that would be primarily used for Series consoles or PC, I don't know. The Elite V2 is by far the most ergonomic and durable controller I've owned - probably since my Competition Pro Joystick...
That's assuming EVERYONE on PC/Xbox that played on Game Pass would have bought the game instead. I'm sure a percentage would have bought but not all. Not only that, I wonder how many more spent on Season Passes or other MTX because they didn't spend $70 to play it.
I do think that if people drop to Premium or Essential, then the number of people playing CoD will be much lower to start. Most may also wait the year for games like Outer Worlds 2, Fable, Clockwork Revolution etc otherwise why bother with Premium? Might as well drop down to Essential if you intend to buy games now.
I nbelieve it is possible that both situations could be true - hat Microsoft are about to leave the 'Console' business but are not leaving the Hardware business just yet.
Their next device could be a 'Xbox PC', maybe with a Xbox chip built in for BC with Consoles, but ultimately not locked to Xbox and the Xbox ecosystem like a traditional console but open to Steam, GoG, Epic etc. I'm sure MS will have their own device but whether or not you also get licensed 3rd Party versions, I think maybe after a year or so.
Point is, MS still has their Surface line and could still make Gaming Hardware but whether or NOT its a traditional Single Platform device, time will tell.
Therefore both could be right in that MS are not making another 'Xbox Console', but are still making Hardware with Xbox branding, just more a PC than a Console...
@Brigurugi your 'security' wasn't impacted by the rise in Subscription fees, the 'value' of Game Pass may have changed for you, but you can also cancel or drop down tiers.
As for Consoles, MS got into the Console business to bring 'PC' Games to the Masses with an affordable 'box' designed around DirectX and PC game requirements (internet, Hard drives etc). Now 25yrs later, affordable gaming PC's exist delivering Console like Performance and streaming exists too for much cheaper options.
When you are paying $500 for 'Subsidised' Console Hardware so you have to pay a Sub fee to unlock all content/features etc, an additional $10 a month for Essental tier or $600 over 5yrs, You can buy a PC for $1k, never need a Subscription and find games are generally cheaper too.
The only people buying 'Xbox' consoles are those that want an Xbox specifically to play select Xbox games or for Game Pass - PC owners aren't buying Xbox because they can play EVERY Xbox release Day 1 and/or Subscribe for Day 1 games cheaper. PS gamers may not buy an Xbox now because the games will come to their Platform eventually anyway. You don't need to upgrade to a 'new' Xbox as you can stream games to your old gen via Cloud too to save money...
Point is, the Console is not that 'attractive' - unless your 'preference' is to play on Console specifically or it suits your 'budget'. Sony and Nintendo only have their Console Platform so 'exclusives' make them more appealing - they aren't on PC or can be streamed 'free' to other devices - if you want to play Mario or Wolverine day 1, you must buy their console. On Xbox, the Console is not the ONLY way to play so do you even need to buy it??
That's why for at least the past year or so, there have been rumours that Microsofts 'next' Hardware will not be a Console in the Traditional sense - locked to just the Xbox store and the Xbox Ecosystem, being more like a PC with multiple storefronts/platforms to play on - Steam, Epic, GoG etc. The next 'Xbox' may well be a Console like PC designed to connect to the TV, but not a 'Console' in the traditional sense - like the Asus Handheld PC with its 'Xbox based' UI but not 'locked' to Xbox at all...
@datamonkey Not bnecessarily because EVERY Publisher has done the same thing. The difference between MS and others is perhaps scale and frequency, but they also expanded the most during BOOM.
Job losses were inevitable when you 'merge' 3 identical businesses together, you don't need 3 different Publishing divisions, Payroll Departments, HR, Marketting/Advertising etc all with their own Management etc so that was 'inevitable'. All Publishers have closed down studios, laid off staff, cancelled games etc.
As for those with Hardware, MS isn't the only one to increase Prices. Sony has and reduced specs/quality too but kept the price high. Nintendo are charging more for their games than others and EA Play (£17) and Ubisoft+ Pro (£15) offer day 1 (or some Day 1) in their price so 'Day 1' can't be the issue alone if others offer.
The point is that when MS announced their intention to buy ABK, there was likely to be 'inevitable' Job losses - after a protected time maybe, but still no point employing 3 people to do the SAME job. As for Price Hikes, that too would be inevitable at some point just due to inflation and rising costs - however, I doubt anyone expected the world to go Crazy after coming out of the Pandemic. Certain big regions are now closed off from selling games so no revenue coming in from their anymore, other countries so devastated they aren't able to buy and other regions are struggling to live Hand to mouth with rising costs, tariffs, trade wars, unstable economics and much less disposible income to spend on 'leisure'. That is having an impact on EVERY Publisher so EVERY Publisher is looking at ways to reduce their costs AND/OR increase their revenue. You can say that EVERY publisher is 'guilty' of doing the same thing...
@Simu001 I still don't know that I'll buy it at launch or wait and see how things evolve over the coming months. At the moment, I haven't cancelled or downgraded from GPU so still have EA Access - so that is also an option to wait for, but I may cancel once the BO7 beta is over.
I'm still considering whether or not to drop Xbox Consoles completely and just play on PC instead - noSubscriptions required at all. To play BF6 or CoD for a year on Xbox costs $120 (GPE at $10 a month) but on PC, its just whatever the game costs and I can play 'Anywhere' on a Handheld PC. GeForce Now is a better Streaming option IF I wanted to stream - so I'm also not looking to 'buy' games on Xbox (unless Play Anywhere) because I could end up playing solely on PC's and wouldn't want to have to 're-buy'!
@Weebleman Not neccessarily. If you lose Ultimate Subscribers - even if they are dropping to Premium or Essential, that has a big impact in their monthly revenue. Instead of almost guaranteeing say $400m a month, that drops now down to say $200m a month - but people won't necessaril be spending that money on Games or buying them 'new' instead.
Most of the Premium Subscribers may well choose to wait up to a year for them to come to their tier - otherwise may as well drop to Essential and the rest may just wait for sales instead.
Instead of playing CoD, Outer Worlds 2, Ninja Gaiden, Clockwork Revolution and Fable via GPU, they may just buy CoD (as its something they'll play all year with friends) and wait for the rest to come to their tier or be on sale at very low cost. No guarantee those gamers will buy Day 1.
So not only will MS lose a big chunk of their almost guaranteed monthly revenue, the difference is not necessarily going to be made up by Sales of games - let alone sales of their own. Xbox hardware too is not that prolific so lose 30% of sales revenue to other platforms - like Steam or Playstation.
With cost of living rising, much less disposible income to spend on Games, let alone the cost of games (particularly 'complete' editions, not the bare bones standard edition) and hardware going up too, I struggle to see the sense in MS's decision.
With their Handheld PC and numerous other Handheld PC's and cloud enabled gaming devices, you'd think that MS would be looking to sell GP on those, increase their Subscriber numbers and monthly revenue, but could price themselves out - lose sales to Steam, GoG etc, push people to Playstation etc instead of spending 'money' in their's!!
I feel 'meh' about it in truth. Obviously the games it adds are not 'new' and many have been on sale dirt cheap, been on Game Pass or even given away with Gold. However, it does add more Games to a service that is all about providing a 'Library' of games you can play at no additional charge. I would have less 'issue' with a small increase in price with Ubisoft+ and other changes, but it doesn't really add 'value' from my perspective.
I have much more of an issue with them forcing Fortnite Crew on EVERY Ultimate Subscriber - that doesn't increase the Library of Games so it should have been a 'Perk' for Game Pass Members that actually play Fortnite (a F2P game) to add the 'Premium' tier Subscription at a 'discount' from the Epic price.
To me, the addition of EA Access and Ubisoft+ do at least add 'Games' to their service - the fact that they are 'older' titles is irrelevant as the vast majority of the games in Game Pass are over a month old - so it does 'increase' the number of games accessible - but these too could be 'perks' to tailor your Subscription. For example Xbox GPU is $17, add EA access and/or Ubisoft+ for $3 each and Fortnite Crew for $7 for example if you want....
@kuu_nousee @Simu001 Yeah - Even before the buyout, with EA's past track record I was apprehensive to buy at launch - not because I think the launch game will be 'bad', I think it could well be the best BF launch in years, but because I have no idea how the plan to monetise post-launch content.
Firestorm can't be funded just from sales of the base game - if its F2P as expected. It will be funded by MTX's Season/Battle Passes, in-game currencies etc as will any post-launch 'free' content in the Premium game.
CoD is the same, but at least you have years of evidence and experience to know exactly what to expect etc. However, I can see new ownership pushing the pricing up to not only recoup their costs but also clear the $20bn debt EA had...
I think its more of a refined BO6 with better map design/layout for better flow - I think BF6 is a better BF3 but also a very different game, different combat and different feel to the Game-play too so both offer something uniquely different.
To me, thats great because it means I am less likely to get burned out when I can alternate between multiple different styles of Multi-player FPS games.
I can see maybe Xbox winning 1 or 2 awards here - Troy Baker as Indiana Jones as he really does a great Harrison Ford and maybe Best Remake/Remaster with 3 out of the 6 games nominated.
The rest of the categories they are nominated in, I'd be surprised if other games didn't win...
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Re: Talking Point: How Often Do You Replay Games?
I'm somewhere between Never and only Certain Titles because I have and would replay Certain Titles IF they were fully remade and expanded and/or amended to bring something New to the game so its not 'exactly' the same with just a 4k/60 (or 120) and slightly higher polygon ount and higher quality textures (probably the 'Originals they had to 'reduce' in quality for that generation.
I don't enjoy movies or cover versions of songs that basically copy the Original as closely as they possibly can. I don't want the 'same' experience I had back then and I won't get the 'same' experience now just because it 'looks' and plays better. Its still an OLD game and so many 'newer' games have expanded and built upon those old games that they feel 'old' and 'dated', in need of a 'remake', built with the masses of resources they have access to today, not limited and restricted by old hardware to really make the game as they really envisioned or would make today....
Re: Insomniac's Xbox Exclusive Sunset Overdrive Celebrates Its 11-Year Anniversary This Month
I completed everything in the main game so have never felt the need to return - although I have been tempted by the DLC but as time goes on, its not been a priority...
Re: Microsoft Rewards October Gift Card Sale Begins, Includes Discount On Xbox Credit
@smoreon Only notifications I get are the ones telling me I have enough points to redeem for a £25 gift card after making ANY purchase on Xbox. As soon as I get the points from Purchasing added to my tally, it automatically generates that message.
Of course I have enough points, I have nearly 200k at time of writing - about 1k pts to go. Thats enough for 7-8 £25 gift vouchers so I should think I have 'enough' points without being told I have enough points after every purchase - even those I used 'some' points to convert to money to pay for the item...
Re: Review: Battlefield 6 (Xbox) - A Fantastic FPS, And A Great Base For The Future Of Battlefield
Enjoyed the Beta but it felt a LOT like BF3 - arguably one of the best eras of Battlefield - but also plays like Battlefield. Its not that innovative, more like they've tried to get back to what made Battlefield as big as it was - and quite successfully. Although still can't manage to do a campaign as memorable as BF:BC2.
With their BR mode coming and we still don't really know how they intend to monetise Post Launch content etc, I am still reluctant to buy. I do enjoy MP - the Big Map modes as a change of Pace and different style of Game-play loop from other FPS games, but its not my 'favourite' in terms of gunplay, movement and moment to moment action. Its always been that 'something similar, yet very different' FPS game when I need a change to avoid burn-out and/or frustration...
Re: New ROG Xbox Ally X Footage Shows Battlefield 6, Helldivers 2, Forza Motorsport & More
I am looking forward to getting mine!
The games looked incredible on my RoG Ally (OG) considering its form factor and equivalent devices. As someone that grew up before even the Gameboy era and remembers Nintendo Game & Watch games, to see games running on a Handheld device that you'd only expect to see on 'big' Hardware with huge relative Power/power consumption is remakable.
I struggle to use my RoG Ally - not because it isn't capable, but because of the ergonomics and desiign philosophy of Handhelds - that small, slim device leads to compromises on the ergonomics. You can't have big comfortable grips to hold on to if you want to keep it 'slim' and better to shrink the thumbsticks and all buttons/controls to 70% scale to reduce size etc. However, I find both exceptionally uncomfortable/awkward to use as my Muscle memory is established on full size controllers.
I have had drift issues, most notably on the Left thumbstick probably due to the click/hold to run mechanic - but that was years ago. I would prefer Hall effect, but I expect to upgrade before I need to replace due to issues. I don't expect it to be 'competitive' or 'worth' repairing in 4-5yrs time - it will probably be worth 'upgrading' to a newer Handheld PC.
Re: Everwild Screenshots Leak Online Several Months After Xbox Cancellation
As stylisic as the game was - some may love that ttype of Aesthetic - it neverr had any Substance to what the Game-play aspect was. It was 'sold' on its looks alone and the past 5-10yrs have been spent trying to decide what game to build with this aesthetic....
Re: Four Games Are Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In November 2025 So Far
@Fiendish-Beaver I'm in my my mid 50's too so not into ultra-competitive game-modes but love playing Zombies and Warzone Casual which has few actual Human Enemies - until the end phase, but if you've survived that long, you have decent weapons/perks to compete.
I log into CoD daily and do the Daily Zombie challenges (Solo) then jump into Warzone and/or MP for a 'few' matches. I don't know if the end game is strictly co-op or whether it will be playable Solo. Of course Call of Duty, known for its Online Social Gaming may well present just 'co-operative' game-play, but could allow you to play Solo - like DMZ or Zombies.
I'm not too keen on the 'hallocenegenic' campaign missions, I've never finished BO3's campaign (I think it was BO3 that was 'trippy' - but I think they are all mostly Hollywood's view of what a 'war' is - that small 'squad' taking on entire nations armies or private well equipped merceneries with just a basic 'small arms' loadout against tanks and Helicopters but still 'entertaining' to play through...
Re: Four Games Are Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In November 2025 So Far
@Fiendish-Beaver I will be playing the campaign - at least I intend to start playing and if it keeps my interest until the end, great. The Campaign, as I understand it, can be played Solo - just like Gears of War, but can also be played co-operatively. I don't know what the 'end' game entails and whether orb not that can be played Solo too, but I will never play a Co-op Campaign without first playing it through Solo.
Nothing annoys me more than other players rushing through co-op campaigns as quick as possible, talking over game dialogue or having their 'own' agenda.
I will certainly be playing Zombies - mostly Solo as I never play with Rando's and Warzone Casuals - at over 50, I don't really want to play ultra competititive people etc. I enjoy a bit of MP - usually Hardcore as its a case of get the first bullet on target to win - to get daily challenges done, but I don't play MP that much...
Re: Microsoft Rewards October Gift Card Sale Begins, Includes Discount On Xbox Credit
@MrStark It's that aspect, having to use the 'credit' within a set-time, that really annoys me about these. I only use my points now when I remember just before 'buying' a game - I'll only convert enough to pay for the majority of the game without going over, and pay the rest with cash - it can be nice paying just 2.97 for a 52.97 bundle for example.
Re: Four Games Are Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In November 2025 So Far
@Kaloudz Yeah I really enjoyed the Beta - both the MP and Zombies. Both seem a lot like BO6 but with more refinement and tweaks - the best change though is their Map Design and return to more traditional 3 lanes which really does improve the flow and alleviates some frustration.
The campaign does seem somewhat 'misleading' for the rest of the package - but I do like the idea of it being playable co-operatively and has an 'end-game' mode too. I do like Linear great story single player campaigns, but I also appreciate them trying something different, experimental.
Many don't even touch the Campaign and few of those that do actually complete it so them trying something different with its co-op option, own Camo grind and end game may get more people playing it.
I still haven't finished BO6 campaign or MW3's or MW2's before that. I'm currently enjoying the Haunting event in BO7 and over 80% complete on this seasons BP too - mostly from Zombies and Warzone...
I'll be playing BO7 in November - whether I choose to keep Ultimate or decide to drop down a tier or two. I've played BO6 pretty much 'daily' even if just for an hour or two to get Daily missions completed so I'll get my value from all the hours I'll play over the year.
Re: Poll: Are You Buying Battlefield 6 For Xbox On Launch Weekend?
I played the Beta and whilst I will say its the 'best' BF MP I've played, probably since the BF3/4 era of Battlefields, I don't think it offers the best Campaign and we still don't really know how their Post Launch content and its monetisation will look.
I don't buy games at launch as I think that's ALWAYS the worst time to buy. The Price is at its highest, content at its most basic and/or the code is often at its least Optimised too. With games costing over £50, now £70 at launch, I really see no reason to buy until its on sale or offered in a Sub tier. I also dislike the 'benefits' to PS users over those on PC and Xbox so I refuse to 'buy' on PS to support that practice - just like I nevber bought Hogwarts - although still considering buying it 'now' on Xbox with Play Anywhere.
Play Anywhere too will factor in to my Gaming purchasing in the future as I intend to play 'more' on PC's - and I think MS will eventually (if not 'next' gen) will only make 'PC' hardware. I think their 'console' (in design) will emulate Series Xbox so all their 'old' games, games you can play today on Series Hardware from the handful of OG Xbox games, 360 to XB1 and Series Games. But all 'new' Xbox releases will be 'Windows Xbox PC' games - games you can run on 'ANY' Windows PC, not just their 'own' Console.
The reason, they are already making games for PC and so don't need to port and optimise to a second Platform at extra cost and all their games are 'Play Anywhere' so cutting the 'Console' costs would be a big Financial reason. Their work with Asus on Windows too, in collaboration with the Xbox OS team, will help them 'optimise' Windows for gaming and provide a 'console' like interface.
To me, the RoG Xbox Allys are indicative of their future so unless Games have Play Anywhere and/or at a reasonable price to 'me', I'm not buying 'new' games.
Re: UK Retailer Tests Oblivion Remastered To See If It Plays Off The Disc (Xbox & PS5)
@TrollOfWar Each to their own dude... I like Digital more at the moment but that's because I'm Jumping between Hardware and its so much easier to have your games on various devices/platforms and to be able to play without needing a 'physical' key to access.
Just going between my Xbox Series X and RoG Ally or Laptop PC is so easy and neither my PC's have Physical drives for Xbox discs. But because I bought Digital, I have games I can install and play natively anytime I want. even swich between games (or hardware) without needing to use any Physical keys to play.
When I upgraded from XB1X to XSX, all my Digital games were instantly in my Library ready to install and play. Pro's and Cons to both Physical and Digital it just depends on which works best for you. I haven't bought 'Physical' games since probably Dead Space remake and don't think I will again. I rarely play my Physical collection because it involves swapping Discs every time where as my Digital games are instantly playable...
To me, the modern day 'Cartridge' is basically the Plug-in SSD Storage cards on Xbox. You can install ALL your Digital games on the SSD and as soon as you plug it in, you can load into any of the games straight away, switch between them easily etc and then replace the Card for a completely different Library as Console internal Storage is a bit 'limited' - modern Handhelds use Cards as games and/or extra Storage...
Re: ROG Xbox Ally X Continues To Sell Out, While Standard Version Remains More Readily Available
@Coletrain I don't know that I'd use Frame Gen, I'd ratherhave 40fps and VRR than the game running at 38fps but looking like its running at 76ish fps.due to increase latency and 'slight' cost of generating frames.
I'm OK with using Upscaling methods to deliver Higher Frame Rates than Native 1080p and FSR 3.0 isn't that bad on a BIG screen, let alone 7" one.
I've never messed around with Sharpening, the games have not looked like they need it and I don't like the artefacts if over sharpened...
Re: Xbox 'Magnus' Leak Suggests Next Console Will Be Powerful, Expensive & Maybe A Hybrid Device
I'm not convinced the Console market will be the 'best' option for next gen. Obviously if you have existing Libraries on those platforms, carrying them forward is a massive incentive to keep you locked in, keep you paying monthly Subs for Social gaming and access to all content/features at the very least.
If Microsoft were to release a 'PC' in a Console like format designed for living under a TV in a living room setting, with a built in chip that 'emulates' their Series X console (all games and BC games series X plays, the Series X versions) so it carries forward my Xbox Console Library, I'd leave the Console space regardless of what Sony/Nintendo do.
I'd rather save the 'Essential' tier fee and Hardware costs on a Console to spend more on PC hardware and Sony releases their games on PC eventually so I'd have more than enough Great games to play. If MS's PC incurs a Sub thoughfor Online access, or BC with previous consoles, I'd consider buying a Gaming PC and keeping my PS5/Series X for my 'old' Console games
Re: AMD's Partnership On PS6 Will Benefit 'Every Gaming Platform', Says General Manager
AMD are working closely with both MS and Sony because they know they both have Experience in making Consoles and their own Developers to tap into for feedback on issues and needs.
Consoles are generally 'cheap' and punch well above their specs - due to design/features not 'universal' or used in the PC space - like separate Audio Processing cores instead of using GPU cores or designing for efficiency over 'brute force' and other 'bespoke' parts that somehow make the Consoles punch above even AMD's equivalent GPU's on PC.
If they lean into Sony and MS and their Dev Studios who have games in development and 'issues' they face to get them running as well as they'd want - transfering Data fast enough is either a case of increasing Bandwidth or coming up with a Universal compression method to send more data through without increasing bandwidth. MS had Sampler Feedback to 'reduce' the data, only send the 'required' Data that would be seen/used - not the full Data so could send only a certain part of a texture map instead of the whole texture map - but I don't know if that is used much or puts too much work/effort on Devs to ensure those Textures can be 'broken' into parts for more efficient downloading.
Point is, its in AMDs best interest to work with Console Maufacturers with their own Dev studios and get useful tips, tricks and information on how they've managed to make 'cheap' hardware so performant - they want to close the Gap to nVidia but also be more affordable and/or more 'open' with their 'features' like FSR.
Re: Former ZeniMax Devs Who Were Fired By Xbox Create New Company Called Sackbird Studios
Good luck, the future is dependent on the Games you make and what they are competing with when released. Even great games can end studio's if they don't get the 'returns' they expected.
Re: Battlefield 6 Dev Explains Why It Isn't Following Black Ops 7 With Xbox One Version
Lets be honest here, some games will always release on Last gen whether they should have or not, just because the Publisher knows they'll make more money.
CoD BO3 released on XB360/PS3 hardware - yet had to drop the Campaign and 3 of the 4 DLC packs. Graphically, the game looked VERY different but it still sold. Titanfall got a 360 release too and that had to cut a lot of the Atmosphere from the game, the local wildlife around and on the map.
Having played BO7 beta and BO6 this year, I see little/no reason that BO7 wouldn't release on last gen if BO6 gets all content on last gen. After all, these were both built alongside each other on the SAME engine for the past 4-5yrs.
BF6 with its much larger player counts, vehicles and Physics - gun-play (no hitscan like CoD), destruction etc so arguably a lot more difficult to port to last gen with its very basic CPU's that basically killed Destruction and Physics based games.
Re: UK Retailer Tests Oblivion Remastered To See If It Plays Off The Disc (Xbox & PS5)
That's because the start of the PS4/XB1 gen was the start of games having to be 'installed' on internal storage to run - they generally ceased to run 'from disc' so the disc just became a 'delivery' method and License Key. Despite the software being installed on your system, unless you put the disc in, it would not run as it requires a 'valid licence' (on the disc) to access the software.
It doesn't matter whether they had supplied ALL the game on several discs, only one would have the Licence and the other is basically obsolete once you've installed the game anyway. I get that in 20yrs+ time when the Hardware is no longer able to connect to the internet, if you've deleted your game, you can't 're-install' from Disc to play - but if you've kept it installed, the disc still grants access and if you don't want to keep it, you can sell your Licence/Game too.
These days though, Physical Discs are nothing more than a Licence key holder as Publishers 'deliver' their software to your internal SSD via multiple methods to keep their costs down...
Re: Bungie's Delayed Shooter Marathon Re-Emerges With New Xbox Playtest
@cragis0001 The free tier with perhaps a few hours of stream time and Ads to watch to get 'free' time to stream - at the lowest quality with longest wait times too. The new 'Ultimate' tier promises the highest quality streaming (1440p) and shortest wait times and its only certain games too.
Sony would have to agree to make their game available on 'Xbox' as one of the 'Play your Own' games via streaming so that anyone who wants to stream a few games 'free' would need to buy it on that hardware just to stream it for free. Otherwise Sony would have to let MS put their game into their Game Pass collection so that it can be streamed 'Free' so no/little revenue coming in...
Sony have (or had) a deal with MS and their Azure Cloud system to develop their OWN streaming - which arguably they do offer - with their Portal and PS+ streaming options. You can stream to mobiles and other devices (I Believe) and like I said, PC has Streaming services too - like GeForce Now and sell their games on Steam/Epic too.
Those kids aren't really buying games - they are mostly playing games like Fortnite, Roblox, Apex, Warzone etc so maybe will be enticed by streaming a 'few' games for 'Free' as Fortnite is often included in that...
Sony want to get those players into their Ecosystem, not stream, buy or play on their Rivals hardware so I really do think that them helping MS to build up their 'Streaming' service and platform is extremely unlikely...
Re: ROG Xbox Ally X Continues To Sell Out, While Standard Version Remains More Readily Available
@Coletrain I've played a few 'new' release AAA games on my OG RoG Ally - games like FH5 and Doom Eternal and both games ran 'OK' but I really do struggle with the ergonomics. The 70% scaled down Controls really mess ith my Muscle Memory and struggle to hit the buttons - so I tended to play very 'simple' control games. I struggled with Doom but FH6 was ok - brake, accelerate and steer only settings.
To me, the biggest upgrade over the first gen RoG Ally, and even the improved Ally X, is the 'full size' Controller grips, thumbsticks and buttons. The chance to upgrade to a newer 'upgraded' Z2E chip is almost secondary as I never really struggled to play games at reasonable settings (obviously not 1080p on a 1080p display) and over 30fps which I consider a 'minimum' frame rate requirement. But even at 40 or 50fps, the VRR screen was its biggest benefit over other Z1E devices.
Its still a very good Handheld and still a worthy device. Certainly great for the vast majority of games released, but maybe will need to be 'boosted' or you'll have to make a bit more compromise to run certain New AAA games at 30fps or more.
It just depends on the games you want to play on the go - including potential future releases like GTA6 or GTAO, I play mostly on Series X but I want a decent Handheld that feels like a Controller in my hand and plays the games I want when I can't get on my XSX. If I want to play BO7 or BF6 whilst the TV is in use, I want that option - even if its more of a struggle on a 7" screen. Zombies shouldn't be too bad and campaigns too...
Re: ROG Xbox Ally X Continues To Sell Out, While Standard Version Remains More Readily Available
@Coletrain Yeah - it's designed to be Competitive with the new wave of Handheld PC's and a Price Point to match. Its the cheapest of the Z2E and has AI NPU's unlike the others.
The cheaper version is designed more to compete with Steamdecks and Switch 2 devices - of course you can probably buy 'discontinued' Z1E hardware - both new old stock and used but they aren't really 'competing' as they are the same Platform essentially. It's form factor, Xbox branding and UI are supposed to appeal more to Xbox gamers looking for Handheld devices at a similar cost to Steamdeck or Switch 2.
I saw little point in going for this as I have a RoG ally that 'competes' with those other devices, I wanted something more powerful and more ergonomic...
Re: ROG Xbox Ally X Continues To Sell Out, While Standard Version Remains More Readily Available
@Hapless @Coletrain As I said, I had done my research and searched around - the sources also indicated that but Obviously I am the one that is misinformed - so I apologise. Even searching on Google though, the Z2A is designed to operate better at Low Power and compete with Steamdeck and its price point.
I have the Z2E Xbox Ally X on pre-order myself so wasn't overly concerned about the specs/architecture of the base. I'm upgrading from Z1E which isn't great when starved of power - but all Z1E devices are still part of the Windows Handheld PC pltforms and basically offer the same Library etc.
I guess we will wait and see what DF makes of these and how the base model compares with the likes of Steamdeck, its most direct competitor...
Re: ROG Xbox Ally X Continues To Sell Out, While Standard Version Remains More Readily Available
@Coletrain Nope - I did my research and checked, double checked this morning too after your message.
The Z2A Zen 5 with 3 Performance and 5 Efficiency cores - so you still have 8 cores/16 threads, but unlike Z1E with '8' Zen 4 cores, they can't all be boosted to 5.1ghz.
The GPU though is RDNA 3.5 with 16cores - compared to the 12 cores of RDNA 3.0 in Z1E. A Simple search provided this:-
Graphics:
The Z1E features a capable RDNA 3 GPU, suitable for gaming but with limitations compared to newer architectures.
The Z2A's RDNA 3.5 GPU provides enhanced graphical capabilities, making it a better choice for graphics-intensive applications and gaming.
Power Efficiency:
The Z2A is designed with power efficiency in mind, making it more suitable for battery-operated devices, while the Z1E may consume more power under heavy loads.
So I don't know where you got your misinformation from, but all the official information I can find would tell you that the Z2A is built on newer architecture (Zen 5 and RDNA 3.5 compared to Zen 4 and RDNA 3.0)
Re: ROG Xbox Ally X Continues To Sell Out, While Standard Version Remains More Readily Available
@Coletrain Z1E is Zen 4 and Z2A is Zen 5 with 3 performance and 5 efficiency cores and as for GPU, the Z1E is RDNA 3 whilst Z2A is RDNA 3.5. The AMD Ryzen Z1E is better suited for users who prioritize raw processing power and high clock speeds, particularly for gaming and intensive applications. In contrast, the AMD Ryzen Z2A offers a more balanced approach with improved graphics performance and power efficiency, making it ideal for portable devices. In other words, it will work better at '15w' but maybe won't be as performant at 35w - which is better for battery life - not having to 'boost' because its not that efficient when power starved.
So sorry to burst your bubble but your information is wrong - the newer chip is newer Archetecture designed to be more eficient at 'lower' power so you don't have to 'boost' to 25 or 35w and drain the battery. It will play games like Doom: the Dark ages at over 30fps and 'Compete' with its Rivals - the Steamdeck and Switch 2. The Z1E Handheld PC's, inc the first gen Ally's , Lenovos or MSi models are NOT competition as they are still MS Windows PC's with Microsoft Game Pass and their PC platform ready to go, awaiting the update o the new Windows and UI. They are just different 'choices' to basicaly do the same thing with exactly the same Library, platforms etc.
The RoG Xbox Ally is built and priced to compete Directly with Steamdeck and Switch 2. All other Handheld PC's, inc used Z1E devices are all just different choices to the same 'Platform'.
Re: Xbox Rolls Out Age Verification (UK) And Game Hub Improvements In New Insider Update
Been with Xbox for nearly 25 years, playing Halo CE, a 'adult' game (or at least a teenager game) and then being asked to prove you are over 18 is somewhat ridiculous.
I'm sure that certain things in your HISTORY should be indicative of age even if they can'tt 'verify' exactly how old you are. I'm well over 50 and find it very insulting to prove my age. I think my Email account is over 25yrs old so that 'digital' record/footprint etc should prove I'm over 18
Re: Xbox Journalist Disputes Rumour About AMD Requiring 10M Units For First-Party Handheld
This device and the costs of their Console and its services seems to me that MS want to push you to PC Gaming and preferably on their Platform and services there. Their next gaming Hardware will be a PC that just boots to the Xbox FSE UI with the Windows desktop and all the switched off process just a click or 3 away. This could be the 'precursor' of the Xbox future at least 'Hardware' based.
Their gaming PC will just be Windows optimised for gaming running Xbox FSE by default with at most some 'emulation' chip built in for emulating their Consoles for Back Compat with your 'Digital' Libraries on those different eras of console.
That's why they dropped their own - and why the Xbox Ally exists to compete in the same Price range as Switch 2 and Steamdeck - all other handheld PC's (used and/or different brands) are still Microsoft Windows devices with their own ecosystem on it so essentially the same - and will be when they get the Windows update.
They couldn't make a 'Steamdeck' contender to play the games you play on your Series consoles at Steamdeck or better, with the same 'feel' as an Xbox controller for around the same money with such limited quanity manufacturing so its better to work with Asus to build more of that 'Xbox' console influenced Handheld PC with its ergonomics, OS and UI redesign.
Re: ROG Xbox Ally X Continues To Sell Out, While Standard Version Remains More Readily Available
@DonkeyFantasy M2 2280 are much more available than the more niche M2 2230 SSDs so ease is relative I guess...
Anyway, I've always advocated choice and each to their own as well - I was just pointing out WHY someone may choose This device over the Alternatives in its price range - its direct competitors are Steamdeck and Switch 2 - the others are just preferential choice or budget as ALL Windows Handheld PC's are essentially the SAME family with the SAME library and 'Xbox' and Game Pass crossover.the difference between this and other PC's is ergonomics and that dashboad - the 7" LCD 120hz VRR screen was considered the 'best' in class in the first gen handhelds and looks great on my RoG Ally (OG Version). Used doesn't come with the same warranty and piece of mind - also they should get the OS/UI at some point so are a good option, still in the same category/ecosystems etc.
The point of this device was to be as 'affordable' as Steamdeck and still be as performant at similar power levels (but can be boosted) whilst also providing the 'Xbox' ergonomics and UI, able to play ALL your Play Anywhere/Game Pass games at no 'extra' cost where as the other hardware, you'd need to buy games as well. The 'Xbox' branding and 'emphasis' on GP and Play Anywhere is designed to make the 'cross-over' into 'PC Gaming' from Xbox consoles relatively comfortably and seemlessly as possible. The Xbox Ally X is to be the 'latest' gen to compete with MSi and Lenovo Devices for Performance/graphics - although this does have AI NPU's the others don't so could be interesting in the future...
Anyway, I still believe CHOICE is best - and ALL I was pointing out it's unique features it hopes to convince people to buy vs it's competitors in its 'Price' range. The Xbox Ally is not competing with 'used' products reall, its competing against the 'new' handhelds and that is the higher end Steamdecks and/or Switch 2 hardware as the 'current' market has.
MS Built one to compete more with 'Consoles' at their Price point and a high end one to compete with the new PC releases too. The compromises to reach that price point to be 'competitive' and a 'choice' for those people deciding to jump in may come down to how each 'feels' in the hand more than which plays Indiana Jones the 'best'.
It seems to me, Xbox want people to 'move' more to their PC Ecosystem and PC Game Pass than stay on their Console, Merge Xbox fully into Windows, even their Gaming Harrdware will be 'Windows' but boot to the FSE by default instead of the full Windows. These products may well be the pre-cursor tho their future....
Re: ROG Xbox Ally X Continues To Sell Out, While Standard Version Remains More Readily Available
@DonkeyFantasy The Z2A has much better efficoiency at the lower power end - the 15w mode and should be equivalent at the higher 25w-35w modes to deliver roughly the same graphics and performance - maybe a few points better here and there and that's if they both run Full Windows, but the Z1E chip does not get the Xbox FSE experience until next year.
Also the Z1E versions - only the OG which isn't that great is likely to be cheaper - don't have great ergonomics. They improved with their Ally X - but that is more expensive - but these have something those don't - full size Grips, buttons and thumbsticks and feels like a Xbox controller in hand. It also comes with a bigger 60w Battery over the 40w in the RoG Ally and a more easily upgradeable SSD.
From my own research on the Subject, I found out this:-
The ROG Xbox Ally represents a significant evolution in handheld gaming, building on the strengths of the original ROG Ally while addressing its shortcomings. With improved ergonomics, battery life, and performance features, it is likely to appeal to gamers looking for a more comfortable and capable device. However, the original ROG Ally remains a solid option for those who may not need the latest enhancements or are looking for a more budget-friendly choice.
Re: ROG Xbox Ally X Continues To Sell Out, While Standard Version Remains More Readily Available
@DonkeyFantasy The Standard version looks pretty decent and far more comparable to the Steamdeck in both Price and performance - but unlike Steamdeck, also plays a LOT more games - like CoD, Destiny 2, GTA Online, BF6 and Valorant. It also integrates with Play Anywhere and Game Pass.
I know GPU is more expensive, but Essential/Premium tiers still offer Games and PC cross-over and their price has not increased. The lower tiers added PC crossover.
Point is, the cheaper one is to compete more with the Steamdeck/Switch 2 but offer better ergonomics and the largest Library that also syncs well with your Xbox - whether you 'want' those feature or 'prefer' the alternatives may depend on where your current Library exists, the games you want to play and even the cost to play those games on that device.
Take Indy for example - you can play it on Xbox via Game Pass or buy it digitally with Play Anywherebut if you want to finish it playing on the go without having to rebuy, then the only Native options are the Handheld PC's, Steamdeck and Switch 2 will require repurchasing. If that's what you want, then maybe the RoG Xbox Ally is the better value option.
Re: ROG Xbox Ally X Continues To Sell Out, While Standard Version Remains More Readily Available
I don't know what I expected or what to make of this. Its entirely possible that they made 'fewer' Xbox Ally X's, thinking that the price would make it less popular so sold out quicker than anticipated. Maybe they made far more Standard white versions thinking it would sell more being cheaper and perhaps got their balance 'wrong' - not enough X's to meet demand and more standard Ally's than gamers that want it...
Re: Bungie's Delayed Shooter Marathon Re-Emerges With New Xbox Playtest
@cragis0001 Do you really think that Sony are actively hoping that people will buy their games on Xbox to cloud stream them to whatever devices they have? PC have streaming services too of course and Sony has Portal.
Lets be honest here, the cost of porting and releasing their game on another platform, losing 30% to MS and long term support afterwards just so some kid can stream a few hours for 'free'. Unless its Play Anywhere on PC/Xbox, I don't think many will 'buy' to stream it. It won't be on Game Pass so I doubt they'll support Play Anywhere.
May as well just buy it on Steam/Epic and use a decent Streaming Service like GeForce Now...
Re: New Silent Hill F Xbox Advertisement Makes It Clear You're Only Buying A 'License'
@EVIL-C If you prefer to own a bit of plastic that you have to put in the console just to show you still have that bit of plastic, still own the License, still have the key to access the Software, installed on your Hardware - that's your choice.
However, that bit of plastic doesn't even need to contain the 'Software - its just a distribution method to Publishers. All they need to supply is the License and a Launcher to install the game from the internet.
Re: Pick One: Which Is Your Favourite Double Fine Game On Xbox?
I've only played (or should I say started) a few of their games and Brutal Legend is by far the best - but still have never finished the game. I've tried Iron Brigade, that was OK but nothing thatmade me want to keep playing and/or return, same with Psychonauts (both) and Grim Fandango because of 'hype', butreally didn't enjoy or understand the hype for these at all.
I can't say I'm a fan of Double Fine at all, none of their games appeal - but Jack Black and the soundtrack is why Brutal Legend is by far the best! I will say they have a very unique artistic style which is quite quirky, but the 'game-play' and description, trailers etc don't make me want to play - I won't play Keeper eeither...
Re: Seven Games Tested On ROG Xbox Ally X In 45 Minutes Of Impressive Pre-Release Footage
I pre-ordered the RoG Xbox Ally X and think those results are impressive - incidentally Game Pass PC is cheaper the Game Pass Ultimate with Day 1 if you don't play on Console - although has jumped up in price.
It's a very capable gaming Handheld and you still have options to use FSR upscaling and frame gen to boost frame rates if you want. Being a 'Windows' PC too, it shouldn't be a problem with TPM Secure Boot requirements - unlike Steamdeck - NO GTAO, Destiny 2, BF6, CoD, Valorant etc....
I know its expensive but I also think its 'worth' it considering the price of Mobile Phones and the Performance for gaming this has. The ergonomics look very comfortable - like a Xbox controller, and 7" screen is 'great' on my RoG Ally. To run everything, inc the game, cooling, screen etc all on a battery in such a small package considering, its incredible. Just 10yrs ago, the idea of a Windows PC able to play games in a Handheld was a dream, Valve made it work with their OS and ecosystem so it wasn't long after.
Point is, to have that computational power in your hands in something that size is remarkable considering what was possible just 10 or even 20yrs ago, these can play games btter than Consoles from a few years back in a handheld form running on a battery...
Re: Activision Lays Into Black Ops 7 Hackers As 97% Of Early Access Beta Cheats Shut Down Instantly
I will never understand the cheater mindset - its no victory if you cheated for it and paying for cheats to ruin the experience for everyone is dispicable..
I've not noticed or felt like I've been killed by cheaters so it sems to be working. I've enjoyed the Beta and Zombies too and a co-op Campaign sounds interesting too - but I'll play it through solo first.
Re: Bungie's Delayed Shooter Marathon Re-Emerges With New Xbox Playtest
@RadioHedgeFund Personally I don't think so - I think they would rather keep those as 'Exclusive' to their Console and the only way you'll play those is when Steam/Epic are on their Hardware.
They don't have to spend money on porting, supporting and marketing, losing 30% to MS when they can do 'nothing' and reap any extra PC sales from steam/epic.
I'm sure their 'Xbox' PC (Asus RoG Xbox Ally Handheld PC's) will sell Spider-man, Horizon, God of War, R&C Last of Us etc games to play on their new Hardware if they've never owned a PC or Playstation and I'm sure IF/When MS open their Hardware to other Platforms or make more Xbox branded PC's, Sony won't port to their competition
Re: New Silent Hill F Xbox Advertisement Makes It Clear You're Only Buying A 'License'
@Questionable_Duck Exactly - that's why you've not owned the software. You can't sell it or distribute it to others - just your 'license' and that removes your access too.
Still people believe they 'own' their games when in reality all they own is Licences. Whether they can sell (general Physical License) or not (Digital), some are also conditional - like Game Pass/PS+ games that give you a license on the condition you keep your Subscription and/or remains available in that service.
Re: New Silent Hill F Xbox Advertisement Makes It Clear You're Only Buying A 'License'
That's always been the case - you've never owned the Software and only purchased a license to access that software. Of course with Physical, its always been on the Media with the Software in the past - although since the PS4/XB1 era, the Software has to be installed on internal storage so that's enabled them to supply some/all content via online as in their mind, you only bought a 'License' so as long as that is supplied, the rest can be downloaded/installed from Disc, internet or both.
Point is, you've never 'owned' the game, just a Licence to play. Hence you need to install Discs even though the entire game is installed on your Console - it can not be accessed without a Valid Licence. The only real difference is that Physical Licenses are 'generic' meaning anyone with the Physical media can access the Software so easily sold/traded. Digital though is more specific and locked to your account/profile so only you can access but cannot be sold.
Re: Bungie's Delayed Shooter Marathon Re-Emerges With New Xbox Playtest
No interest - So many better looking games inc Arc Raiders and BF6
Re: Talking Point: Would You Still Buy An Elite Series 3 Controller For Xbox Series X|S?
I'd buy one day 1 but whether that would be primarily used for Series consoles or PC, I don't know. The Elite V2 is by far the most ergonomic and durable controller I've owned - probably since my Competition Pro Joystick...
Re: New COD Sales 'Estimate' Helps Explain Xbox's Price Hike For Day One Game Pass Releases
That's assuming EVERYONE on PC/Xbox that played on Game Pass would have bought the game instead. I'm sure a percentage would have bought but not all. Not only that, I wonder how many more spent on Season Passes or other MTX because they didn't spend $70 to play it.
I do think that if people drop to Premium or Essential, then the number of people playing CoD will be much lower to start. Most may also wait the year for games like Outer Worlds 2, Fable, Clockwork Revolution etc otherwise why bother with Premium? Might as well drop down to Essential if you intend to buy games now.
Re: Xbox Issues Statement Denying Rumour That Next-Gen Console Could Be Cancelled
I nbelieve it is possible that both situations could be true - hat Microsoft are about to leave the 'Console' business but are not leaving the Hardware business just yet.
Their next device could be a 'Xbox PC', maybe with a Xbox chip built in for BC with Consoles, but ultimately not locked to Xbox and the Xbox ecosystem like a traditional console but open to Steam, GoG, Epic etc. I'm sure MS will have their own device but whether or not you also get licensed 3rd Party versions, I think maybe after a year or so.
Point is, MS still has their Surface line and could still make Gaming Hardware but whether or NOT its a traditional Single Platform device, time will tell.
Therefore both could be right in that MS are not making another 'Xbox Console', but are still making Hardware with Xbox branding, just more a PC than a Console...
Re: Multiple Xbox Games Temporarily Delisted Due To Security Issue With The Unity Engine
@Brigurugi your 'security' wasn't impacted by the rise in Subscription fees, the 'value' of Game Pass may have changed for you, but you can also cancel or drop down tiers.
As for Consoles, MS got into the Console business to bring 'PC' Games to the Masses with an affordable 'box' designed around DirectX and PC game requirements (internet, Hard drives etc). Now 25yrs later, affordable gaming PC's exist delivering Console like Performance and streaming exists too for much cheaper options.
When you are paying $500 for 'Subsidised' Console Hardware so you have to pay a Sub fee to unlock all content/features etc, an additional $10 a month for Essental tier or $600 over 5yrs, You can buy a PC for $1k, never need a Subscription and find games are generally cheaper too.
The only people buying 'Xbox' consoles are those that want an Xbox specifically to play select Xbox games or for Game Pass - PC owners aren't buying Xbox because they can play EVERY Xbox release Day 1 and/or Subscribe for Day 1 games cheaper. PS gamers may not buy an Xbox now because the games will come to their Platform eventually anyway. You don't need to upgrade to a 'new' Xbox as you can stream games to your old gen via Cloud too to save money...
Point is, the Console is not that 'attractive' - unless your 'preference' is to play on Console specifically or it suits your 'budget'. Sony and Nintendo only have their Console Platform so 'exclusives' make them more appealing - they aren't on PC or can be streamed 'free' to other devices - if you want to play Mario or Wolverine day 1, you must buy their console. On Xbox, the Console is not the ONLY way to play so do you even need to buy it??
That's why for at least the past year or so, there have been rumours that Microsofts 'next' Hardware will not be a Console in the Traditional sense - locked to just the Xbox store and the Xbox Ecosystem, being more like a PC with multiple storefronts/platforms to play on - Steam, Epic, GoG etc. The next 'Xbox' may well be a Console like PC designed to connect to the TV, but not a 'Console' in the traditional sense - like the Asus Handheld PC with its 'Xbox based' UI but not 'locked' to Xbox at all...
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About Ubisoft+ Classics Being Added To Game Pass Ultimate?
@datamonkey Not bnecessarily because EVERY Publisher has done the same thing. The difference between MS and others is perhaps scale and frequency, but they also expanded the most during BOOM.
Job losses were inevitable when you 'merge' 3 identical businesses together, you don't need 3 different Publishing divisions, Payroll Departments, HR, Marketting/Advertising etc all with their own Management etc so that was 'inevitable'. All Publishers have closed down studios, laid off staff, cancelled games etc.
As for those with Hardware, MS isn't the only one to increase Prices. Sony has and reduced specs/quality too but kept the price high. Nintendo are charging more for their games than others and EA Play (£17) and Ubisoft+ Pro (£15) offer day 1 (or some Day 1) in their price so 'Day 1' can't be the issue alone if others offer.
The point is that when MS announced their intention to buy ABK, there was likely to be 'inevitable' Job losses - after a protected time maybe, but still no point employing 3 people to do the SAME job. As for Price Hikes, that too would be inevitable at some point just due to inflation and rising costs - however, I doubt anyone expected the world to go Crazy after coming out of the Pandemic. Certain big regions are now closed off from selling games so no revenue coming in from their anymore, other countries so devastated they aren't able to buy and other regions are struggling to live Hand to mouth with rising costs, tariffs, trade wars, unstable economics and much less disposible income to spend on 'leisure'. That is having an impact on EVERY Publisher so EVERY Publisher is looking at ways to reduce their costs AND/OR increase their revenue. You can say that EVERY publisher is 'guilty' of doing the same thing...
Re: Black Ops 7 Beta Review (Xbox) - A Bit Of A Re-Skin, But Zombies Mode Shines
@Simu001 I still don't know that I'll buy it at launch or wait and see how things evolve over the coming months. At the moment, I haven't cancelled or downgraded from GPU so still have EA Access - so that is also an option to wait for, but I may cancel once the BO7 beta is over.
I'm still considering whether or not to drop Xbox Consoles completely and just play on PC instead - noSubscriptions required at all. To play BF6 or CoD for a year on Xbox costs $120 (GPE at $10 a month) but on PC, its just whatever the game costs and I can play 'Anywhere' on a Handheld PC. GeForce Now is a better Streaming option IF I wanted to stream - so I'm also not looking to 'buy' games on Xbox (unless Play Anywhere) because I could end up playing solely on PC's and wouldn't want to have to 're-buy'!
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About Ubisoft+ Classics Being Added To Game Pass Ultimate?
@Weebleman Not neccessarily. If you lose Ultimate Subscribers - even if they are dropping to Premium or Essential, that has a big impact in their monthly revenue. Instead of almost guaranteeing say $400m a month, that drops now down to say $200m a month - but people won't necessaril be spending that money on Games or buying them 'new' instead.
Most of the Premium Subscribers may well choose to wait up to a year for them to come to their tier - otherwise may as well drop to Essential and the rest may just wait for sales instead.
Instead of playing CoD, Outer Worlds 2, Ninja Gaiden, Clockwork Revolution and Fable via GPU, they may just buy CoD (as its something they'll play all year with friends) and wait for the rest to come to their tier or be on sale at very low cost. No guarantee those gamers will buy Day 1.
So not only will MS lose a big chunk of their almost guaranteed monthly revenue, the difference is not necessarily going to be made up by Sales of games - let alone sales of their own. Xbox hardware too is not that prolific so lose 30% of sales revenue to other platforms - like Steam or Playstation.
With cost of living rising, much less disposible income to spend on Games, let alone the cost of games (particularly 'complete' editions, not the bare bones standard edition) and hardware going up too, I struggle to see the sense in MS's decision.
With their Handheld PC and numerous other Handheld PC's and cloud enabled gaming devices, you'd think that MS would be looking to sell GP on those, increase their Subscriber numbers and monthly revenue, but could price themselves out - lose sales to Steam, GoG etc, push people to Playstation etc instead of spending 'money' in their's!!
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About Ubisoft+ Classics Being Added To Game Pass Ultimate?
I feel 'meh' about it in truth. Obviously the games it adds are not 'new' and many have been on sale dirt cheap, been on Game Pass or even given away with Gold. However, it does add more Games to a service that is all about providing a 'Library' of games you can play at no additional charge. I would have less 'issue' with a small increase in price with Ubisoft+ and other changes, but it doesn't really add 'value' from my perspective.
I have much more of an issue with them forcing Fortnite Crew on EVERY Ultimate Subscriber - that doesn't increase the Library of Games so it should have been a 'Perk' for Game Pass Members that actually play Fortnite (a F2P game) to add the 'Premium' tier Subscription at a 'discount' from the Epic price.
To me, the addition of EA Access and Ubisoft+ do at least add 'Games' to their service - the fact that they are 'older' titles is irrelevant as the vast majority of the games in Game Pass are over a month old - so it does 'increase' the number of games accessible - but these too could be 'perks' to tailor your Subscription. For example Xbox GPU is $17, add EA access and/or Ubisoft+ for $3 each and Fortnite Crew for $7 for example if you want....
Re: Black Ops 7 Beta Review (Xbox) - A Bit Of A Re-Skin, But Zombies Mode Shines
@kuu_nousee @Simu001 Yeah - Even before the buyout, with EA's past track record I was apprehensive to buy at launch - not because I think the launch game will be 'bad', I think it could well be the best BF launch in years, but because I have no idea how the plan to monetise post-launch content.
Firestorm can't be funded just from sales of the base game - if its F2P as expected. It will be funded by MTX's Season/Battle Passes, in-game currencies etc as will any post-launch 'free' content in the Premium game.
CoD is the same, but at least you have years of evidence and experience to know exactly what to expect etc. However, I can see new ownership pushing the pricing up to not only recoup their costs but also clear the $20bn debt EA had...
Re: Black Ops 7 Beta Review (Xbox) - A Bit Of A Re-Skin, But Zombies Mode Shines
I think its more of a refined BO6 with better map design/layout for better flow - I think BF6 is a better BF3 but also a very different game, different combat and different feel to the Game-play too so both offer something uniquely different.
To me, thats great because it means I am less likely to get burned out when I can alternate between multiple different styles of Multi-player FPS games.
Re: Xbox Game Studios Titles Up For Several Awards At Golden Joysticks 2025
I can see maybe Xbox winning 1 or 2 awards here - Troy Baker as Indiana Jones as he really does a great Harrison Ford and maybe Best Remake/Remaster with 3 out of the 6 games nominated.
The rest of the categories they are nominated in, I'd be surprised if other games didn't win...