They don't need to sell, they can just spin off Xbox, keep a percentage for themselves and sell the rest in the stock market. If the shareholders believe this will net them higher gains than Xbox bring as part of microsft it can happen
@Xiovanni because if a demo is downloadable it will be a fraction of the game size and if it's streaming it will be instantly playable. Not everyone can afford the bandwidth, free disk, time to download the full game.
@Xiovanni xbox already has demos, that are supposed to make you buy the games. The gamepass demos are only to give a quick taste, the product is already paid and it's gamepass not the game. And customers are convinced to buy services not with demos, but with services trials. Similarly to how streaming is not enticing people with single episodes of series but with 7 day trials.
That a gamepass perk, if you want demos you can always download the ones available.
@Kooky_Daisuke I agree that neflix is going downhill like for ever now. my point was that noone would replace a compele product with a trial version, your fear of seeing games replaced by demos would never never happen and nothing pointed at it being a possibility. the demos are just there to make it easier to test the full product, they could never be the product. if the demos are cloud only that would allow someone to test games instantly. if the demos are downloadable that would allow to check a game by downloading a small part of the game and save time and data.
@Xiovanni they are not locking demos behind a paywal, they are allowing people behind the paywall to play demos fo the available games. don't complain about everything ppl
@NahImgood one must be biased to NJ ot be a fan of gamepass with everything it offers Being a subscription service doesn't mean anything. Netflix is a subscription service but that didn't stop 200 million to subscribe.
@NahImgood "I can kind of see why the company is disliked for that reason alone." Its disliked by biased fanboys. Everyone else and the devs applaud gamepass for what it offers to gamers.
@JayJ of course you are, that's not what I was saying though.. People are not entitlent to decide what shows/games etc should be like. And complaining that the show is all about sex is wrong, as was comparing sex with other bodily functions.
almost all non-broadcast dramas have sex scenes: vikings, westworld, breaking bad, got, sopranos. even the wire had a couple.
Where they all about sex?? No they weren't... Was you complain biased? Yes it was...
@UltimateOtaku91 the last part is not true. Kioxia's is majority-owned by Bain Capital, Sharp by Taiwan's Foxconn, Sony's 60% belongs to foreign investors. that's just a few I found qith a quick search, he just doesn't want MS to buy Sega 😅
and by the way the JP ministry of finance publishes a list of companies it requires prior notifications for foreign investment and gaming companies don't require one. that's fopr weapon, space etc companies only
@GADG3Tx87 the tweantown article looks ridiculous in retrospect.
"The reality is Microsoft doesn't care all that much about Xbox." and "Microsoft isn't going to pay out big for gaming acquisitions any time soon." standing out the most
as for the lexology article it clearly says "The business-related restrictions are imposed on, among others, investments in any business related to:
national security;
public infrastructure;
public safety ;
protected domestic industry" and
" In fact, since liberalisation of ForeignDirectInvestments in 1980, there has been only one case where the ministries have actually issued a suspension order."
Japan won't stop the sale of Sega when they have allowed ¥39.7 trillion investements in other companies.
pachinko sales and taxes will continue under any owner (btw Sega has ONLY 400million pachinko sales) and Microsoft will most likely divest pachinko.
Microsoft by the way already has a big corporate presence in Japan (2000 employees when Sega has 3200 globally) https://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/ir/library/pdf/settlement/2022/20220210_presentation_e_final.pdf
I get that you don't want MS to buy Sega, but what you say are mostly inaccurate. Sammy Holdings is basically a 4 billion company, Microsotft can easily buy them through the stock market and Sammy Holdings have to answer to the shareholders like any public compnay
@Pigrotto I guess @Spaceman-Spiff's point is there's no need to feel sympathy for him. usually you feel sympathy when someone's sick or in a bad situation, he just published a book
@Odium that's my understanding at least, humans got scared, were shooting everywhere while the spartans knowing the covenant armors could withstand shots and being expert marksmen shot at the face. It makes sense as a tool to show non familiar viewers that they are super soldiers.
I liked it a lot myself, there's not many scifi series out there, especially with the expanse gone. And I like Pablo schriber since he got his uncle killed by the Greek in the wire.
@CrazyJF all smart tvs have stores and they already have the android and the ios apps ready, so they only need to create a tizen and webos one to cover most of the market the problem is that tv manufacturers are not upgrading the os at all (webos) or just for a few versions. So after a few years MS will have to maintain a dozen different versions of their apps. A lot easier to release a dingle they can upgrade at will
@NEStalgia no objection there. I jus think that any way local authorities look at the acquisition there's no reason to object as in any given market (console, pc, console+pc, mobile, all of them) their market share won't be monopolic
@Stocksy what didn't happen was what the prophets here and on twitter were predicting. noone was saying about new games then, the narrative was 7B-> price hike the narrative now is 70B-> price hike
@themightyant but they did andf it didn't happen. Netflix has a huge debt, thats the only way to repay it, Amazon prime is not comparable as its not a simple subscription service, they have bundles a dozens services together, sotify and uber most liekley are like neflix, microsoft is now. look what they do with microsoft365, price is totally normal
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Re: Ubisoft CEO Explains Decision To Buy ActiBlizz Cloud Rights From Xbox
@AlexAtwell I don't think so, the site will go offline at some point. No way to keep 2 sites.
Re: Capcom Would 'Gracefully Decline' Any Acquisition Attempt From Xbox
@tallythwack noone can own the lions share of franchises,
Re: Ubisoft CEO Explains Decision To Buy ActiBlizz Cloud Rights From Xbox
@AlexAtwell this happened in 2021 not now. Just use king.com
Re: SEGA & Bungie Included In Huge List Of Companies Xbox Has Considered Acquiring
@Rmg0731 not even close
Re: Talking Point: Could You Ever See Microsoft Selling The Xbox Brand?
They don't need to sell, they can just spin off Xbox, keep a percentage for themselves and sell the rest in the stock market. If the shareholders believe this will net them higher gains than Xbox bring as part of microsft it can happen
Re: Bethesda Confirms You Can't Manually Land On Planets In Starfield
@Titntin it's jot a similar game to NMS and it doesn't failt to do what NMS does, it doesn't want to do what's NMS exactly because it's jot similar.
@GADG3Tx87 you are free to play NMS, you don't have to play starfield
Re: Xbox's Sarah Bond Talks About Bringing Demos To Xbox Game Pass
@Xiovanni because if a demo is downloadable it will be a fraction of the game size and if it's streaming it will be instantly playable. Not everyone can afford the bandwidth, free disk, time to download the full game.
Re: Xbox's Sarah Bond Talks About Bringing Demos To Xbox Game Pass
@Xiovanni how do you know that games with gamepass demos won't have free demos as well?
once again gamepass demos are for gamepass users, non gampeas users cant simply download.
gamepass demos are not to make you buy games, because the games are free for gamepass users. is just to make it easier to try the free games
Re: Xbox's Sarah Bond Talks About Bringing Demos To Xbox Game Pass
@NOCTORNUS
Another angry fan "why they don't give 1 million to every xbox owner?"
Re: Xbox's Sarah Bond Talks About Bringing Demos To Xbox Game Pass
@Xiovanni xbox already has demos, that are supposed to make you buy the games.
The gamepass demos are only to give a quick taste, the product is already paid and it's gamepass not the game.
And customers are convinced to buy services not with demos, but with services trials. Similarly to how streaming is not enticing people with single episodes of series but with 7 day trials.
That a gamepass perk, if you want demos you can always download the ones available.
Re: Xbox's Sarah Bond Talks About Bringing Demos To Xbox Game Pass
@Kooky_Daisuke I agree that neflix is going downhill like for ever now.
my point was that noone would replace a compele product with a trial version, your fear of seeing games replaced by demos would never never happen and nothing pointed at it being a possibility.
the demos are just there to make it easier to test the full product, they could never be the product.
if the demos are cloud only that would allow someone to test games instantly.
if the demos are downloadable that would allow to check a game by downloading a small part of the game and save time and data.
there are already demos for xbox available to everyone https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/game-demos/games/xbox
what's the point in making the gamepass demos available to everyone?
Re: Roundup: All The Key Xbox Announcements From Today (June 9)
ffs release it to the whole europe already. we have a single digital market...
Re: Xbox's Sarah Bond Talks About Bringing Demos To Xbox Game Pass
@Kooky_Daisuke would you expect netflix to replace series with trailers??
Re: Xbox's Sarah Bond Talks About Bringing Demos To Xbox Game Pass
@Xiovanni they are not locking demos behind a paywal, they are allowing people behind the paywall to play demos fo the available games.
don't complain about everything ppl
Re: Report Details 'Several Big Xbox Announcements' Happening This Thursday
come on release Cloud Gaming to the entire europe so I don't have to corry my XSX around
Re: Ninja Gaiden Collection Contains Sigma Games As 'Only Fragments' Remain Of Other Titles
cloud backups are a lifesaver
I got 3 years of office365 and moved everything to the cloud
Re: Xbox Turned Down The Chance To Make Exclusive Marvel Games In 2014
@NahImgood one must be biased to NJ ot be a fan of gamepass with everything it offers
Being a subscription service doesn't mean anything. Netflix is a subscription service but that didn't stop 200 million to subscribe.
Re: Xbox Turned Down The Chance To Make Exclusive Marvel Games In 2014
@NahImgood "I can kind of see why the company is disliked for that reason alone." Its disliked by biased fanboys. Everyone else and the devs applaud gamepass for what it offers to gamers.
Re: Halo's Raunchy Eighth Episode Has Left Everyone In Total Shock
@JayJ the creators, this is still art. If you dont like it, you simply don't watch it. What's the point of complaining using invalid points?
Re: Halo's Raunchy Eighth Episode Has Left Everyone In Total Shock
@JayJ of course you are, that's not what I was saying though.. People are not entitlent to decide what shows/games etc should be like.
And complaining that the show is all about sex is wrong, as was comparing sex with other bodily functions.
almost all non-broadcast dramas have sex scenes: vikings, westworld, breaking bad, got, sopranos. even the wire had a couple.
Where they all about sex?? No they weren't...
Was you complain biased? Yes it was...
Re: Halo's Raunchy Eighth Episode Has Left Everyone In Total Shock
@JayJ a 1 minute scene is not "all about sex" any way you look at it, so everything else you are saying is a priori moot.
The show is great imho and all the online complaining is just laughable at this point. People think they are entitled to decide everything...
Re: Halo's Raunchy Eighth Episode Has Left Everyone In Total Shock
@JayJ so they don't have sex in halo universe? Or should it be just be fights and killings?
Re: Halo's Raunchy Eighth Episode Has Left Everyone In Total Shock
When Got was doing similar things it was great, not that's Halo and Microsoft everything is bad. Twitter and Reddit are where people go to whine.,
Re: Random: Xbox Series X Owner Panics As Console 'Runs Out Of Memory'
@riccyb0y it is a non-issue. you can see articles aboyt everything on the internet on slow days.2 out of millions don't constitute even a known-issue
Re: Halo Fans Complain The Latest TV Trailer 'Looks Nothing Like Halo'
I guess halo universe is not allowed to have desert planets. People keep complaining about everything these days.
I really like the show, it's not everyday we get a new AAA scifi series, excluding Disney's ***** series
Re: UbisoftNL Clears Up 'Confusion' About Ubisoft+ On Xbox Game Pass
@phoenix1 lol, what's Playstation have to do with this? And ubisoft+ IS coming to xbox
Re: Xbox's Phil Spencer Shares Kind Words About Former Nintendo Boss
@Tasuki no worries, we are int he same boat on this 😊
Re: Xbox Isn't Done With New Acquisitions, Job Listing Suggests
@UltimateOtaku91 the last part is not true. Kioxia's is majority-owned by Bain Capital, Sharp by Taiwan's Foxconn, Sony's 60% belongs to foreign investors. that's just a few I found qith a quick search, he just doesn't want MS to buy Sega 😅
and by the way the JP ministry of finance publishes a list of companies it requires prior notifications for foreign investment and gaming companies don't require one. that's fopr weapon, space etc companies only
https://www.mof.go.jp/english/policy/international_policy/fdi/20211102.html
https://www.mof.go.jp/english/policy/international_policy/fdi/kanrenshiryou01_20200424.pdf
https://medium.com/tokyo-fintech/mof-classifies-japans-companies-by-national-security-concerns-c4c124349143
Re: Xbox Isn't Done With New Acquisitions, Job Listing Suggests
@GADG3Tx87 the tweantown article looks ridiculous in retrospect.
"The reality is Microsoft doesn't care all that much about Xbox." and "Microsoft isn't going to pay out big for gaming acquisitions any time soon." standing out the most
as for the lexology article it clearly says "The business-related restrictions are imposed on, among others, investments in any business related to:
national security;
public infrastructure;
public safety ;
protected domestic industry" and
" In fact, since liberalisation of ForeignDirectInvestments in 1980, there has been only one case where the ministries have actually issued a suspension order."
Japan won't stop the sale of Sega when they have allowed ¥39.7 trillion investements in other companies.
pachinko sales and taxes will continue under any owner (btw Sega has ONLY 400million pachinko sales) and Microsoft will most likely divest pachinko.
Microsoft by the way already has a big corporate presence in Japan (2000 employees when Sega has 3200 globally)
https://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/ir/library/pdf/settlement/2022/20220210_presentation_e_final.pdf
Sammy Holdings already belongs 28% to foreign investors
https://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/ir/stock/share_sample/
by the way Sammy's revenue decreased 24% in 2021 and their earnings decreased 76%, so they are not as financially secure as you make them up to be
https://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/ir/individual/operating-results/index.html#latest-results
and they are not the biggest publisher in Japan, they actuallly sell more overseas than they do in Japan. they are the 5th publisher https://www.statista.com/statistics/689649/japan-leading-video-gaming-software-companies-by-revenue/
I get that you don't want MS to buy Sega, but what you say are mostly inaccurate. Sammy Holdings is basically a 4 billion company, Microsotft can easily buy them through the stock market and Sammy Holdings have to answer to the shareholders like any public compnay
Re: Xbox's Phil Spencer Shares Kind Words About Former Nintendo Boss
@Pigrotto I guess @Spaceman-Spiff's point is there's no need to feel sympathy for him. usually you feel sympathy when someone's sick or in a bad situation, he just published a book
Re: Xbox Dev Clears Up Confusion About Ownership Of Games With Gold Titles
@Krysus Surely you didn't expect them to advertise this as a quirk even if it was one. it is a draw despite the reason they had to do it like this.
Re: Halo TV Star Calls Out 'Fans' Who 'Hated The Show Before They Saw It'
GoT was nothing like the books, but it didn't stop people from watching it or being a nice show initially
Re: Halo TV Star Calls Out 'Fans' Who 'Hated The Show Before They Saw It'
@Savage_Joe he's not blaming the fans
Re: Xbox Is Launching PC Game Pass In Five New Regions This Year
good news. now they need to rollout cloud gaming across all EU countries so that Ic an play my games wherever i go
Re: Reminder: You Can Now Watch Halo On Paramount With Free Game Pass Perk
@Odium that's my understanding at least, humans got scared, were shooting everywhere while the spartans knowing the covenant armors could withstand shots and being expert marksmen shot at the face. It makes sense as a tool to show non familiar viewers that they are super soldiers.
I liked it a lot myself, there's not many scifi series out there, especially with the expanse gone. And I like Pablo schriber since he got his uncle killed by the Greek in the wire.
Re: Reminder: You Can Now Watch Halo On Paramount With Free Game Pass Perk
@Odium the general was shooting all over the place, the spartan shot in their uncovered faces.
Re: Reminder: You Can Now Watch Halo On Paramount With Free Game Pass Perk
@mac01208 the show is just fine, not worse than many overrated shows over the years.
As for the perks, paramount+is not rolled out globally so they can't offer it everywhere, it's either somewhere or nowhere at this point.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Has Some New 'Hardware' To Announce In 2022
@CrazyJF all smart tvs have stores and they already have the android and the ios apps ready, so they only need to create a tizen and webos one to cover most of the market
the problem is that tv manufacturers are not upgrading the os at all (webos) or just for a few versions. So after a few years MS will have to maintain a dozen different versions of their apps. A lot easier to release a dingle they can upgrade at will
Re: Halo's Paramount Plus Series Is Getting A Second Season
Paramount+ will come to the UK and some other EU countries via Sky (Sky Cinema subscribers get if for free)
https://deadline.com/2021/08/viacomcbs-teams-sky-paramount-europe-launch-1234809607/
other countries will get SkyShowtime, a joint streamer combining paramount+ and peacock https://deadline.com/2021/08/comcast-viacomcbs-to-launch-joint-streamer-skyshowtime-in-20-european-markets-1234817057/
Re: Xbox Boss Responds To Sceptics, Uses Price Of Game Pass As Example
but the expert commenters say the price will go up 😜😜
Re: The Xbox Activision Deal Will Receive An Antitrust Review In The US
@StonyKL can we laugh at you when this goes through and we can play all their games for free in gamepass?
Re: Another Six Games Will Leave Xbox Game Pass Soon (February 15)
@LtSarge 50% correct, I wouldn't trust its more correct later on
Re: The New Halo TV Show Is Getting Its 'Official' Trailer This Sunday
@BomberBlur07 rarbg is, but paramount+ is also coming to several parts of europe as part of skyshowtime, if you are european
Re: Microsoft Is Buying Activision Blizzard, Reportedly For $70 Billion
@NEStalgia no objection there. I jus think that any way local authorities look at the acquisition there's no reason to object as in any given market (console, pc, console+pc, mobile, all of them) their market share won't be monopolic
Re: Microsoft Is Buying Activision Blizzard, Reportedly For $70 Billion
@themightyant yeah it should have ben 0.75 for 3 years, damn Micorsoft increased their prices
Re: Microsoft Is Buying Activision Blizzard, Reportedly For $70 Billion
@themightyant office365 is a great example, I got 3 years for 90 eur on black friday, that's 2.5 per month.
@Krzzystuff and some starcraft/warcrafts rts would be nice, especially now that Age of empires did so well
Re: Microsoft Is Buying Activision Blizzard, Reportedly For $70 Billion
@Stocksy what didn't happen was what the prophets here and on twitter were predicting. noone was saying about new games then, the narrative was 7B-> price hike
the narrative now is 70B-> price hike
Re: Activision Blizzard Games Will Come To Xbox Game Pass As Part Of Acquisition
@Carck MS price will even increase as a result of the buyout, people like to think MS overpayed kust to justify their monopoly and bad MS rhetoric
Re: Xbox Game Pass Now Boasts 25 Million Subscribers
that's why you don't need to increase prices, you just increase the customers, like Amazon's long tail
Re: Microsoft Is Buying Activision Blizzard, Reportedly For $70 Billion
@themightyant but they did andf it didn't happen. Netflix has a huge debt, thats the only way to repay it, Amazon prime is not comparable as its not a simple subscription service, they have bundles a dozens services together,
sotify and uber most liekley are like neflix, microsoft is now. look what they do with microsoft365, price is totally normal