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@Banjo- pretty sure it’s all rights not just UK. More so was trying to say that while cloud is growing it’s still a fraction of a fraction of gamers that actually do it and it probably won’t really help grow game pass. Game pass needs high quality games that launch on it day one.

@Banjo- an important thing to remember with Cloud and activison games is that Ubisoft owns the cloud rights now

@abe_hikura Spyro or they still have yet too add sekiro which is an activison game.

@TheEstablishment idk about a big activison drop. They probably don’t want to drop other COD games cause they want more people playing the new one.

I’m honestly ok with this. Prioritize your own games and more importantly your biggest game ever to launch on game pass

@Banjo- oh don’t get it twisted we aren’t going to get new AA ip. My point was that we are still gonna get new ip, but it’s gonna be bigger games. We have seen Xbox say ***** you to what was considered a successful new AA ip.

@Kezelpaso probably will be less yes. Still will say they will invest in ip when the opportunity presents itself.

But xbox is investing in new ip and the need to, in particular they need new single player ip. Clockwork, South of Midnight, OD, activison has elsewhere. Not even including rumored publishing deals with panache and hundred stars. Xbox needs new blood and the main thing is more so single player games. Xbox and PlayStation this gen tried to become more like the other. Xbox needed more single player games like PlayStation and PlayStation needed more mp live service games like Xbox. So far neither have truly beaten the other at their game.

@OldGamer999 also I mean they have Coalition in their corner, literally the best Unreal team outside of Epic. Also think it was stupid for Obsidian to have had the Art director to comment on the fps and not a more technical lead

@OldGamer999 it’s truly amazing how they get in their own way. Xbox has an internal mandate that must always follow good news with bad news to take themselves out at the new cap. This year alone, great developer direct then the business update that was very poorly messaged. In May they have 2 fantastic updates for Starfield and Diablo 4, then they announced they shut down Tango. Had a phenomenal showcase in June then they raised game pass prices and ***** over console game pass subscribers. And now at gamescom it’s been up and down the entire time. Will also say it’s amazing an open world next gen Xbox exclusive in Stalker 2 is 60 fps but Avowed a first party hub based game isn’t.

@OldGamer999 I didn’t mind Starfield cause it still played well and could at least understand the scale and size being factors in the 30 fps decision. Loved the 60 fps update but it became clear Bethesda, Xbox and Todd lied out of their asses with saying it was a “creative decision”

@OldGamer999 the have had W’s and great games since then, just nothing reached that high. I love Starfield and consider it a great game but it certainly wasn’t on that next level. As for avowed I refuse to believe it won’t be 60 when it launches and that Obsidian is being coy with previews. Like Klorbrile pointed out after redfall all the trailers have been in 60, this is hub based and not open world so it should be less intensive, and they have Coalition as support to help them optimize. If it truly is only 30 Xbox needs to start firing a lot of people

Xbox made this a ***** issue when Greenberg stated that 60 fps is the standard for next gen. Their first 2 big exclusives had 60 fps modes then the next 4 didn’t. As long as the game is good 30 fps can be over looked but when Avowed isn’t a big open world game like Starfield and isn’t as graphically intensive as Hellblade 2 it’s a very bad look optics wise.

Little worried from the Dukes preview saying they didn’t confirm 60 fps

OMG can’t believe a Xbox next gen only exclusive is launching with 60fps!!! This ***** is actually nuts. But for real though this is great to see. I hope the team has a big hits on their hands and by extension Xbox might actually have consistent big exclusives this fall.

Can’t wait to see how they spin what was supposed to be an exclusive going to another platform after they said it wouldn’t. Xbox truly needs to figure out their imaging and marketing ***** is getting old.

Damn GSC might really be cooking with this one. The state of new single player shooters this gen is abysmal. The freedom and the immersive sim elements really seem to be shinning through here. Really think this might be one of those breakthrough successes this year.

Anyone with a brain shouldn’t be surprised by these comments. Only Xbox can make Game Pass work cause of Microsoft’s backing. Of course no other 3rd party publisher is gonna willingly put their game on game pass day one unless Xbox offers a big bag of money. And the whole other point here is there is no way the most anticipated game of all time is gonna launch on game pass day one. If you think that would be possible you are stupid.

@InheritNegative you talking about take two leadership or Xbox leadership considering they both shut down successful teams???

@Neither_scene previews have been pretty good in terms of running good on pc’s. Also the system specs are pretty generous. As for Xbox WWZ runs at 60 with all the zombies on screen so Space Marine 2 should be good.

@BAMozzy try to use common sense for a moment. Why would they announce the sequel to their most beloved and arguably most successful game this generation at a 3rd party event? If there is talk about Avowed getting delayed cause there is too many games in game pass this fall why would they announce another one?? Playground is probably all hands on Fable getting it into a super polished state. Come on now don’t say dumb things.

The only thing i better be seeing are some ***** release dates for Indiana Jones and Avowed.

@themightyant I completely understand why they are doing it but that’s not the problem. The problem is why even announce a release window in the first place. Yes fall of 2021 was stacked and it is important to space out their games but will say that time was when Xbox was most successful this generation. We are also getting to the point where Xbox has had so few exclusives that they need to start releasing their exclusives to get more people in to game pass and buy consoles and having a crap ton of presumed quailty exclusives and first party games is the way to do it.

Always delay it if it’s not ready…… but come the ***** on Xbox. Why the ***** did you give a window as fall 2024 not even 2 months ago and then you were going to delay it. Xbox’s planning is ***** horrible and they need to get their release dates figured the ***** out cause this ***** is getting old.

Really sad to see after the final shape did very well. It is part of the over investment into live service games.

@BacklogBrad concord is gonna fail cause it’s a good game when it needs to be great to succeed in this market. It has nothing to do with not being on xbox

Ain’t gonna lie, even with the circumstances they are going through this is still starting to give cyberpunk vibes with how many delays this close to the release date is.

@FarmDog08 the mp is actually in a good spot rn. Don’t even bother with the campaign.

Excited for it just wish they would show off more gameplay and announce a damn release date, ***** like this is getting old.

Good let it rot in the hell it deserves

@DeanyBabyy college football in the USA is very large. Having more teams being spread across the USA allows more fans to connect with a more local team vs NFL

@UltraGuy they are still under Sony and are exclusive. Sony played a role in those games and deserve a lot of credit. Helldivers 2 only costing $40 doesn’t take anything alway from it. In the US it is the best selling game of the year in terms of total $$$ made. And also if Xbox as a whole includes black ops 6 and vessel of hatred when talking about its 1st party The final shape is for damn sure fair to be included with Sony considering they own bungie. Back to the 2nd party games Yes you are right that they don’t own shift up and arrowhead but they still directly are exclusive and they earn $$ from them.

@UltraGuy I seriously don’t know how people can say that Sony’s first party output has been lacking this year?? Helldivers 2 has sold over 12 million copies. Stellar Blade was a great debut on console for Shift Up and Bungie more then delivered on the final shape. Sony has been kicking Xbox’s ass in terms of first party output this year so far.

Easily Fall 2021. Yes they put their games too close too each other but it was the only time they had been consistent with releases this gen. Psychonauts 2, halo infinite, and the best game they have had this gen in forza horizon 5. Now should have halo infinite been delay for more content and also give them a game in Spring 2022 and given Horizon 5 the full spotlight yes absolutely. But Fall 2021 was the glimpse Of what Xbox can be if it gets its ***** together.

Just wish they would announce the damn release date at this point

Xbox needs to rework its comms and marketing team so ABK marketing plays a bigger role and promote Inexile’s social teams to head of all of Xbox cause they are amazing

@K1LLEGAL fair point on hi fi rush and Minecraft legends. But come on man you know console ports don’t have the energy Xbox needs. Also yes redfall is part of the output but it did more harm than good. I am coming from the AAA 1st party games which Xbox needs to be more consistent with.

@K1LLEGAL except it wouldn’t be their full load. Still have OW2, clockwork, es6, blade, and whatever publishing is working with 2nd party teams. Xbox hasn’t had a full year of releases at all this gen and we are past the halfway point. If they are releasing new hardware in 2026 they need to show out next year. We as fans have been waiting for years for a year like that. It would also help if they did release everything only a month apart and space it out. One of Xbox’s biggest blunders was dropping halo infinite so close to horizon 5 when infinite needed more time and it took the shine from the masterpiece that was horizon 5.

I truly hope this is true. Xbox has yet to have a fully stacked year. Even their best year this gen 2021 their 1st half was ***** awful with not releasing stuff and the last 2 years have been very light in the first half. If they can get doom dark ages, GOW E-Day, fable, and south of midnight all released in a separate quarter it would be great to show they finally are having a consistent release schedule.

It’s a great update and the 60 fps does highlight how much improved the gunplay is in this game. This and the Diablo 4 update would have been big Xbox W’s if Xbox hadn’t pulled an Xbox. 1 step forward and 2 steps back is Phil’s internal memo I swear.

And yet they won’t do a ***** physical release

They need to keep the hammer down with in depth looks at Indy and Avowed with release dates. Games like Fable need a 2025 release window. Seems obvious we are gonna see Gears 6 and hopefully State of Decay 3 and Perfect Dark. Really hope we see Clockwork get a 2025 date