@BacklogBrad they still are in the top group of games released on game pass. He’s blunt but he’s mostly right,

@J_Mo_Money they don’t put their games day one cause it doesn’t make sense too for big AAA games to do so.

@HonestHick well for 99% of games it’s not sustainable to do big day one releases.

@somnambulance except the games industry isn’t the tv and film industry

@BacklogBrad moon studios didn’t choose to release their games on game pass, Xbox did.

He’s blunt but overall he’s not wrong. Yes Xbox had good games on its service but they were available everywhere and the exclusives/ 1st party stuff for the most part has been average and that’s not good enough.

Hopefully Xbox can figure their ***** out. Under Phil everything was kinda a race too the bottom with the subscription model with good to middling games. Hopefully the exclusives are truly great and help drive console sales. Xbox has been playing catch up for the last 15 years and it might be too late.

@fatpunkslim LOL do yall really believe Xbox won’t change course all of a sudden??? Remember “JUST 4 GAMES” 🤣

Phil Spencer truly hurt Xbox. The chase of game pass hurt Xbox greatly. Never ending race too the bottom with devaluing games. Also how does Matt booty still have a job, but also got promoted??? Dude was there managing the studios that were given the rope to bang themselves with and got promoted cause of it. Halo infinite was in development hell and yet more studios got put under his watch on top of problems with the initiative, undead labs, rare, etc. Xbox is being ran into the ground.

@Banjo- my bad. Thought you were saying that Arkane Lyon should be shut down. I see now you are talking Austin.

@Banjo- Arkane Lyon released a well reviewed game this gen that sold well enough for a new ip. Vs compulsion and ninja theory who both released decent games that took 6+ years to make that were too short.

Unfortunate but not shocking. South of Midnight is a really cool concept but it certainly wasn’t good enough to justify 7 years of development time for such a middling game that was super short and had a very bare bones middling combat system. Would be one thing if it was Naughty Dog or if South of midnight was a 20 hr AAA 90+ epic, but it was a decent 8/10 15 ish hour game that too far too long too make.

Damn Arkane is a shocking one.

He seemed like the wrong person for the job. His studio had development hell and yet he was promoted too be head of Xbox studio's?? Only one worse is Matt Booty utterly failing his way upward to being CCO. Seriously they need to look at obsidian or playground leadership. Or hire outside of Xbox’s broken studio leadership.

Did far more damage then good.

Hopefully they stick with it. This isn’t a short term fix. Things are gonna be rough till they get better

@Skinny-Pete not the same since pre orders already went live and it was already announced for s5

I really hope no one is gullible enough to truly believe this until it’s been several years down the line. Xbox doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt.

Step in the right direction. But I already sold my series x last year so we’ll see I rebuy a series x next year or maybe play it on my partners series s

@Savex CD cause Xbox hasn’t had a clear concise message and vision since the 360. Xbox has screwed up since the one reveal and they always shift too what they think is the right thing without following through on it.

LOL. I hope no one is stupid enough to believe this in the short term. They said the same about Indiana Jones, Starfield and more. I hope they follow through but they absolutely do not get the benefit of the doubt.

A game with actual gameplay, what a novel concept. Am happy they are changing this after Hellblade 2.

Hopefully they are able too put the cat back in the bottle. But it’s going to take a lot of effort and long term support. I had both a series x and ps5 at launch but I sold my series x over a year ago cause they didn’t give me a real reason to own it. This is a step in the right direction but it’s going to take more then just eday and clockwork for me to even consider re buying a series x. Will say though this back and forth didn’t work out well for Xbox before so guess we’ll see if they give it the time they need to fully rebuild the trust.

Some of yall series s gamers need to realize it’s now underpowered. That’s not a bad thing and it isn’t going to stop getting games, but it absolutely makes development harder. Yes it runs on the steam deck but think for these devs they find PS5 and Steam more desirable platforms for launch then Xbox

@Kaloudz lol. This guy gets it

Holy crap. Matt Booty actually making some right calls instead of being a moron who has failed his way upwards. I’m kinda impressed.

@Kaloudz suppose it’s good Xbox is finally learning how to properly space their releases out. Suppose Matt Booty isn’t totally worthless lol.

Probably the right call. It could maybe compete but this game might as well be a new ip and putting a new ip and/or reboot in such a tight spot when Xbox obviously has invested heavily into this game is a ***** move when more open spaces are available is the right call. Better then the dumb crap they did last October with having ninja gaiden 4, keeper and Outer worlds 2
All within a 2 week window. Give the games the chance to breath.

@Kaloudz more so is just an interesting thought experiment. Yes BO7 was filler but it’s clear it did some damage to Cod’s reputation and seeing other games sell very very well makes it interesting.

Kinda wonder if MW4 underperforms like BO7 did what games could maybe outsell it? Forza Horizon 6 maybe? Resident Evil Requiem? Wolverine? Fable maybe? Last year obviously BF6 did but also Monster Hunter Wild and Borderlands 4 outsold BO7 as well.

It’s a shame but it needed to happen. D2 couldn’t continue on in the way it was. Obviously working in D3 right away after the final shape would have been the best option but that’s not the world we live in. Outside of the obviously horrible news of incoming layoffs it’s probably best they focus rn solely on Marathon. It has a good core gameplay loop it just needs vastly better onboarding. Bungie should copy what Ubisoft did with siege from 2017-2019, operation health, improve the onboarding and just hammer out consistently adding good content.

@ZeD think it’s a little early to call bungie dead. It’s probably not going anywhere soon cause the optics of closing bungie are too bad rn.

Seems like Xbox is on too something here. Having both metro 2039 and stranger then heaven is a pretty baller start

I personally love the Dark Ages even though think that’s more so cause we get so few single player fps games this generation. Though Dark Ages is still an overall slight step down from Eternal. Still is one of my favorite games this generation.

But game pass is super healthy for the games industry….. on a serious note this is probably a good thing. Call of duty is one of if not Microsoft’s main bread winner for its smaller games and single player games so what ever helps the games fair. Will also say this is the reality of the economics of the world. There’s a reason why literally every other streaming service doesn’t do their big budget blockbuster movies day one on streaming services. Games like movies need to make back their budgets with the initial release window then once’s sales slow down bout year later, throw it in on game pass and get a good healthy crowd.

@RadioHedgeFund glad you wised up

She would be smart to pick his brain. He was the lead of PlayStation during one of its most successful times, he has lessons to learn from. As for game pass yes it’s fair to be critical of it especially if you are a proven industry professional. He knows more than everyone commenting on this post. There’s a reason why Microsoft is literally the only one doing game pass and releasing huge games day one onto game pass. It’s just like why every major movie studio besides Netflix is focusing heavily on theatrical releases, and hell even Netflix is begrudgingly doing some more theater stuff as well.

@Markatron84 Devs and publishers are happy to get that game pass bag after their game released and has made most of the money from initial sales it was going to make. Just like movies going into theaters.

@fatpunkslim he was one of the leads of PlayStation during its most successful times. Xbox has been losing to PlayStation for over a decade dude. He’s critical of game pass cause for literally every developer outside of Microsoft it’s a dumb idea to launch big AAA games on a subscription service. There’s a reason why literally every other film studio besides Netflix has renewed focus on theatrical releases, it’s the same thing with games. Releasing games day one on game pass does limit sales, it’s a proven fact and nowadays companies need to make money to stay alive and while game pass might be profitable, it still hurts sales. On top of game pass does condition Xbox players not to buy games, that’s just the reality for most casual Xbox gamers.

@Sol4ris the platform that’s still kicking Xbox’s butt….

Typical Xbox bull ****

It’s too little too late to Xbox to try to do this BS. They alrighty admitted defeat in 2024. The reality is that Xbox hardware has been ran into the ground. I can appreciate the idea of trying to switch it back but it’s not gonna happen. For better or worse Xbox is fully 3rd party now. Trying to limit sales of their games in the current sales margin era is only going to be putting studios and devs heading on the chopping block.

Low key should out to Microsoft for putting The great circle fully on a card for switch 2 but also F them for not doing that with the ps5.

Xbox did a ***** job of marketing these games and also releasing OW2 in October was stupid as ****. It’s a great game but there’s a lot of great games last year and especially in October. Also will say it seems like Obsidian needed to make OW2 a hair more AAA than it is.

Mean why would devs want to make games for Xbox when Xbox isn’t even trying to sell Xbox’s anymore

@darylb24 not really for the Xbox considering there isn’t a reason to really own an Xbox nowadays. Sony’s line up still have been better then Xbox in terms of good to amazing games being consistently released vs Xbox’s release cadence being the definition of hit or miss in terms of over crowding games or having nothing.

@Sindayl Sony’s launch line up was a million times better then Xbox’s and over the entire generation Sony has been way more consistent then Xbox has been. Sony had exclusive deals yes but that’s the name of the game with consoles, Xbox tried and failed with this game. Besides 3rd party deals Sony’s 1st and 2nd party absolutely killed it at the ps5 launch.

@darylb24 they absolutely have been better. Sony outside of 2023 has always been super consistent, they may have been over reliant on sequels and remasters but they have been way more consistent than Xbox has. Every year besides 2023 they have released 2-4 fantastic to good games. Xbox may have had more releases in certain years but Xbox’s problem has been consistency. Went from releasing 3 games in fall of 2021 to nothing until fall 2022. Look at years like 2024 when they had nothing of consequence until ***** may.