Simple solution don’t buy new consoles and just play older games, there’s not much that comes out nowadays that I’m interested in and I’ll just stream anything new that I wanna play.
Also it’ll mean that lots of devs will put more time into series s versions as opposed to some of the awful ports we’ve had as they be releasing a switch 2 version as well.
Just take a look at what the most played games are on playstation and xbox and you’ll see that its not current releases so gamepass isn’t effecting new sales that much. The average gamers probably only buys a handful of games per year so getting them to subscribe to gamepass might actually create more sales.
If this game only sold about 220,000 on steam, which has a much bigger user base. 22k on xbox isn’t probably a result of xbox fans not buying games and more likely that the game isn’t in high demand.
Making what should be a jrpg game into a full on action rpg is obviously gonna affect sales.
The switch 2 being out is great for series s owners. Many games will also go on it so devs will put more into optimising it, and this in turn will mean that the series s will get better optimised games as well.
I honestly think it’ll be mediocre at best. Bioware seem to have forgotten its the story and writing that are the most important things for RPG’s. Nowadays if it comes from a western studio I wait for reviews / feedback to come out as opposed to buying at launch.
@themightyant it’ll probably be something like just stick in the disc and it’ll play the game akin to ai developed emulation, which would be cool. Not sure how it’d work for digital games though.
@GoldenPants yep me too, i rarely buy full priced games these days, although i’m very tempted to buy Monster hunter wilds. I usually just wait until its at least half price
The real problem is RGP’s exist on their writing, its not rocket science. From what i’ve seen the writing looks terrible, even if the gameplay and graphics are good if the story sucks then fans won’t buy it.
I very well might have bought it but the scenes i’ve seen just look cringe and thats enough to put me off. I’m predominantly an rpg player so writing and story is very important to me.
If its a free game and you don’t need to spend money on it, then I see no problem with shutting down servers at any time. If the base game is full price it should be protected at least for a certain amount of time and if the servers shut down early you should get a refund.
It looks good enough for me to resub to gamepass for a month to test it out. Gone are the days were I buy games at launch as nowadays they tend to be buggy messes (cyberpunk) or shallow reincarnations of great franchises (veilguard). Either way I won’t pay full price unless I know they are actually great.
That would make good sense, they could skip ps5 launches and just do switch 2 as that will most likely dominate again. PlayStation is viewed as xbox’s main competitor whereas Nintendo is kinda separated from that.
@GuyinPA75 most games nowadays don’t release at 60fps in quality mode and thats nothing to do with the series s. Third party games are optimised for devices like the steam deck fine and that’s not a powerful as the S.
Its not the series S’s fault is just a cheap copout for devs who didn’t put enough time into optimising their games for the devices they release on. Most games nowadays require a ton of patches just to get into a state they should’ve been at launch. The industry (most likely the suits in charge) have gotten sloppy and don’t mind releasing semi-broken games.
I bought it on sale well before the next gen patch was released with the intention to not play it until it was released. Am glad I waited as I thoroughly enjoyed it. I played the witcher 3 on ps4 , really enjoyed it, but for some reason haven’t been able to muster the enthusiasm to replay it after the next gen patch was released.
@themightyant maybe, but a lot of companies are making their remasters their main focus, for example sony have announced several remasters recently (days gone, horizon zero dawn) but zero new ips/games.
@somnambulance yeah I agree that the capcom res remasters/ remakes are good and I really enjoyed 4’s remake. But its still a sad sign of the times when companies aren’t making bangers like they used too. As the industry gotten bigger so has the influences of the suits in charge.
I don’t know what everyone else thinks but I think this reliance on remasters is going to slowly kill of the gaming industries creativity. The suits who decide what gets made won’t fund the making of new ips and we’ll just be getting games with a new lick of paint on them.
@IOI most exclusives are heading to other platforms? Really? Either you’ve got a crystal ball and can see into the future or you’re completely over reacting.
@kelomaniack exactly do you remember the video about mesh shaders where John Linnamen face looked ever so sad when ge said PS5 can’t them and its gonna be a disadvantage going forward as more and more games will use them. I guess they no longer matter
I thought DF said a while back that the PS5 can’t do mesh shaders (most new games use them for better performance e.g Alan Wake 2) and this was a major disadvantage, I even remember J Linnaman’s face looking so sad when he said this, I guess they forgot about them or they no longer matter.
@Widey85 you’re exactly right Xbox can say goodbye to their dreams of increasing market share in Japan. The Japanese will always buy a Japanese product instead of a western one and closing studio their only Japanese studio is a stupid move.
While xbox is planning to stay in the console race they’ll never release mainline xbox franchises on PlayStation. They will always keep current gen games exclusive, but they could release last gen games on to playstation to boost sales of current gen games.
As an xbox fan I would be bothered if older mainline games went multi platform.
@eire-shabba I thought it played good but the pop-in is very aggressive. On internal levels its plays fine and isn’t noticeable but outside the draw distance is almost immersion breaking as the draw distance is very close for stuff like vegetation. It made me stop playing it, I would’ve preferred at 30fps option with better draw distance.
Microsoft wanna grow gamepass subs they ain’t gonna do that by going multiplat, worse case scenario is xbox games go to other systems a year or so after xbox or you can stream xbox content on other consoles.
Major gamepass sellers ain’t never gonna go on other consoles though, that would be a complete turnaround to their stated long term business goals.
@shushibda xbox is no longer just a console experience all xbox games release on pc as well as console. Also once new graphics tech gets into pc builds it’ll filter down into the console build and that means better performance for all players.
Xbox just bought Activision and all this drama is probably because xbox are considering which IP’s to put on other systems nothing more nothing less. If anybody believes that xbox will put its mainline xbox ip’s on other systems then they’re just gullible, never gonna happen.
@Fenbops yeah I agree totally, I never even finished Gears 5 I got kinda bored half way through. The open world elements weren’t particularly interesting and didn’t suit the scripted gameplay of earlier Gears games,
@Spider-Kev, I agree 100% as long as the frame rate is consistent. Bad frame pacing at 30fps is extremely noticeable. Played through cyberpunk at 30fps with no problems, and so far StarField is good. I’ll choose graphics over fps every time for rpg’s or open world games.
@Cashews the first half life game on pc would make me feel sick after about 5 to 10 mins and morrowind after about 30mins but I haven’t had a recent game make me sick.
@YonkoBuggyTheClown you’re exactly right, console are in-effect pc’s just with one (or two in the cade of xbox) specs unlike Other Pc’s. To suggest the series s is holding back game development is just bs. Devs put the optimisation time into where they think sales are and this case the S comes last.
@Hutchilawd its bs if it can run on minimum spec pc no problem it can run on an S.
Its easier to code for a console as opposed to a pc. The real problem is they aren’t putting as much hours into xbox dev time as the think the sales will be on ps5/pc.
Also who wants to play an RPG in split screen mode, i sure as hell don’t.
What have the cma been smoking, free and open marketplace? When was the last time you could play a sony game on xbox, or visa versa.
Never is the answer, to suggest that microsoft or any publisher should not have the right to say where their content can be played is plain stupid. Somebody should sue the cma stating they can’t play god of war on their xbox, or halo on play station.
@lumothesinner exactly. Given the choice for this type of game I’ll go with better graphics and 30fps. Played through cyberpunk at 30fps and enjoyed it throughly. People pay way too much attention to sites like digital foundry nowadays.
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Re: Xbox Series X|S Could Go Up In Price Again Due To Potential RAM Shortages, It's Claimed
Simple solution don’t buy new consoles and just play older games, there’s not much that comes out nowadays that I’m interested in and I’ll just stream anything new that I wanna play.
Re: Xbox Series S Is More Powerful Than Switch 2, But 60FPS Games Should 'Easily' Port Across
Also it’ll mean that lots of devs will put more time into series s versions as opposed to some of the awful ports we’ve had as they be releasing a switch 2 version as well.
Re: Is Xbox Game Pass Unsustainable? Arkane Founder Sparks Huge Debate On Social Media
Just take a look at what the most played games are on playstation and xbox and you’ll see that its not current releases so gamepass isn’t effecting new sales that much. The average gamers probably only buys a handful of games per year so getting them to subscribe to gamepass might actually create more sales.
Re: According To Sales Estimates, Final Fantasy 16 Had A Rough First Week On Xbox
If this game only sold about 220,000 on steam, which has a much bigger user base. 22k on xbox isn’t probably a result of xbox fans not buying games and more likely that the game isn’t in high demand.
Making what should be a jrpg game into a full on action rpg is obviously gonna affect sales.
Re: Switch 2 'Closer To Xbox Series S' Than Last-Gen Consoles, Says Ninja Gaiden Dev
The switch 2 being out is great for series s owners. Many games will also go on it so devs will put more into optimising it, and this in turn will mean that the series s will get better optimised games as well.
Re: Capcom Says It's Going Through 'A Golden Era' As It Reinvents Monster Hunter & Resident Evil
@Dalamar73 simple, just start a new character or spend a bit of time in the character creator. Not a big deal at all.
Re: BioWare's 'Core Team' Working On Mass Effect 5 While Some Devs Move To Other EA Studios
I honestly think it’ll be mediocre at best. Bioware seem to have forgotten its the story and writing that are the most important things for RPG’s. Nowadays if it comes from a western studio I wait for reviews / feedback to come out as opposed to buying at launch.
Re: Xbox Is 'Exploring' AI To Make Its Older Games Playable On Modern Hardware
@themightyant it’ll probably be something like just stick in the disc and it’ll play the game akin to ai developed emulation, which would be cool. Not sure how it’d work for digital games though.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Buying Kingdom Come Deliverance 2?
@GoldenPants yep me too, i rarely buy full priced games these days, although i’m very tempted to buy Monster hunter wilds. I usually just wait until its at least half price
Re: EA Seems To Think That Live Service Would Have Helped Xbox RPG Dragon Age: The Veilguard
The real problem is RGP’s exist on their writing, its not rocket science. From what i’ve seen the writing looks terrible, even if the gameplay and graphics are good if the story sucks then fans won’t buy it.
I very well might have bought it but the scenes i’ve seen just look cringe and thats enough to put me off. I’m predominantly an rpg player so writing and story is very important to me.
Re: Live Service Shutdowns Won't Be Further Scrutinised By UK Government
If its a free game and you don’t need to spend money on it, then I see no problem with shutting down servers at any time. If the base game is full price it should be protected at least for a certain amount of time and if the servers shut down early you should get a refund.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Officially Announced For PS5, Drifts Over In Spring 2025
@Kaloudz as long as core MS franchises (gears, Halo etc) get a nice console exclusivity period ( 1 or 2 years) I couldn’t care less.
Releasing day and date on ps5 would finish their hardware business but with an exclusivity period I don’t think it’ll effect hardware sales that much.
Re: Roundup: Avowed's Latest Previews Are In, And It's Already Being Touted As 'One Of 2025's Best Games'
It looks good enough for me to resub to gamepass for a month to test it out. Gone are the days were I buy games at launch as nowadays they tend to be buggy messes (cyberpunk) or shallow reincarnations of great franchises (veilguard). Either way I won’t pay full price unless I know they are actually great.
Re: Xbox On Keeping Games Off Other Platforms: 'That's Not A Path For Us'
They should stick their games on the switch2 as Nintendo aren’t direct competitors, but not on ps5 as that could hurt future console sales
Re: Rumour: Leaker Names Multiple Xbox Games Potentially Releasing On Switch 2
That would make good sense, they could skip ps5 launches and just do switch 2 as that will most likely dominate again. PlayStation is viewed as xbox’s main competitor whereas Nintendo is kinda separated from that.
Re: Talking Point: Will Microsoft Fully Reveal Its Next-Gen Xbox This Year?
@GuyinPA75 most games nowadays don’t release at 60fps in quality mode and thats nothing to do with the series s. Third party games are optimised for devices like the steam deck fine and that’s not a powerful as the S.
Its not the series S’s fault is just a cheap copout for devs who didn’t put enough time into optimising their games for the devices they release on. Most games nowadays require a ton of patches just to get into a state they should’ve been at launch. The industry (most likely the suits in charge) have gotten sloppy and don’t mind releasing semi-broken games.
Re: Over A Decade Since Its First Teaser, Development Is Finally Finished On Cyberpunk 2077
I bought it on sale well before the next gen patch was released with the intention to not play it until it was released. Am glad I waited as I thoroughly enjoyed it. I played the witcher 3 on ps4 , really enjoyed it, but for some reason haven’t been able to muster the enthusiasm to replay it after the next gen patch was released.
Re: Soapbox: Four Years On, I'm Already Nostalgic For The Early Xbox Series X|S Era
I very much enjoyed my series S until I got a Rog Ally. Now my xbox, switch and ps4pro are just dust magnets.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Think Of Dragon Age: The Veilguard So Far?
From the clips i’ve seen online, the writing looks subpar at best. My gaming time is very limited so I’ll give it a pass.
Re: Capcom Asks Fans If They Would Like To See More 'Deluxe Remasters'
@themightyant maybe, but a lot of companies are making their remasters their main focus, for example sony have announced several remasters recently (days gone, horizon zero dawn) but zero new ips/games.
Re: Capcom Asks Fans If They Would Like To See More 'Deluxe Remasters'
@somnambulance yeah I agree that the capcom res remasters/ remakes are good and I really enjoyed 4’s remake. But its still a sad sign of the times when companies aren’t making bangers like they used too. As the industry gotten bigger so has the influences of the suits in charge.
Re: Capcom Asks Fans If They Would Like To See More 'Deluxe Remasters'
I don’t know what everyone else thinks but I think this reliance on remasters is going to slowly kill of the gaming industries creativity. The suits who decide what gets made won’t fund the making of new ips and we’ll just be getting games with a new lick of paint on them.
Re: Reaction: Microsoft's Constant Tweaking Of Xbox Game Pass Is Becoming Exhausting
@IOI most exclusives are heading to other platforms? Really? Either you’ve got a crystal ball and can see into the future or you’re completely over reacting.
Re: Digital Foundry Explores Why Some Games 'Run Better' On PS5 Than Xbox Series X
@kelomaniack exactly do you remember the video about mesh shaders where John Linnamen face looked ever so sad when ge said PS5 can’t them and its gonna be a disadvantage going forward as more and more games will use them. I guess they no longer matter
Re: Talking Point: Has Your Gaming Slowed Down As You've Got Older?
Much less, not because I don’t wanna play but life’s responsibilities get in the way. I game maybe an hour a day after the kids are asleep.
Re: Digital Foundry Explores Why Some Games 'Run Better' On PS5 Than Xbox Series X
I thought DF said a while back that the PS5 can’t do mesh shaders (most new games use them for better performance e.g Alan Wake 2) and this was a major disadvantage, I even remember J Linnaman’s face looking so sad when he said this, I guess they forgot about them or they no longer matter.
Re: Crazy Taxi Reboot Will Feature 'Large-Scale, Open World Multiplayer', Says SEGA
Open world? doesn’t sound interesting to me but i’ll wait and see.
Re: Sea Of Thieves Was The Best-Selling PS5 Game In Both The US & Europe Last Month
GTA5 being no.2 best seller on PS5 in Europe is worrying. How old is that game?
Its a worrying trend for the industry that an old game outsell anything modern. Where’s all the new stuff pushing next gen gaming at?
Re: DOOM: The Dark Ages To Be Announced At Xbox's Showcase, Claims New 'Exclusive'
@bowzoid me too, I had it for a while but I just prefer to own my games. But I suppose I don’t actually own digital games.
I actually think GP is good for getting casuals onboard but for long term gamers its not so good.
Re: Xbox Fans React Angrily To Closure Of Bethesda's Tango Gameworks
@Widey85 you’re exactly right Xbox can say goodbye to their dreams of increasing market share in Japan. The Japanese will always buy a Japanese product instead of a western one and closing studio their only Japanese studio is a stupid move.
Re: Tango Gameworks Founder Responds To Xbox Shutting Down Studio
I thought one of xbox’s goals was to break into the Japanese market? They aren’t gonna do it by closing Japanese studios.
Re: Gears Of War Creator Thinks 'The More, The Merrier' In Regards To Getting Gears On PS5
While xbox is planning to stay in the console race they’ll never release mainline xbox franchises on PlayStation. They will always keep current gen games exclusive, but they could release last gen games on to playstation to boost sales of current gen games.
As an xbox fan I would be bothered if older mainline games went multi platform.
Re: Metro Exodus Receives Massive Xbox Discount As Game Surpasses 10 Million Players
@eire-shabba I thought it played good but the pop-in is very aggressive. On internal levels its plays fine and isn’t noticeable but outside the draw distance is almost immersion breaking as the draw distance is very close for stuff like vegetation. It made me stop playing it, I would’ve preferred at 30fps option with better draw distance.
Re: Tension Builds As Xbox Prepares For Major 'Business Update Event' This Week
Microsoft wanna grow gamepass subs they ain’t gonna do that by going multiplat, worse case scenario is xbox games go to other systems a year or so after xbox or you can stream xbox content on other consoles.
Major gamepass sellers ain’t never gonna go on other consoles though, that would be a complete turnaround to their stated long term business goals.
Re: Starfield's Next Update Adds A Major New 'Upscaling' Feature For PC Players
@shushibda xbox is no longer just a console experience all xbox games release on pc as well as console. Also once new graphics tech gets into pc builds it’ll filter down into the console build and that means better performance for all players.
Re: Xbox Fans Urged To Remain Calm As Emotions Run Wild On Social Media
Xbox just bought Activision and all this drama is probably because xbox are considering which IP’s to put on other systems nothing more nothing less. If anybody believes that xbox will put its mainline xbox ip’s on other systems then they’re just gullible, never gonna happen.
Re: Gears Of War Voice Actor 'Hasn't Heard Anything' About Gears 6
@Fenbops yeah I agree totally, I never even finished Gears 5 I got kinda bored half way through. The open world elements weren’t particularly interesting and didn’t suit the scripted gameplay of earlier Gears games,
Re: Paradox Announces Mutual Split With Lamplighters League & Shadowrun Developer
@GamingFan4Lyf he probably meant passed games not future ones
Re: These Four Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (October 4-17)
I just bought an asus rog ally and it comes with 3 months gamepass, so Like a Dragon Ishin and on handheld, yes please.
Re: Poll: Based On What You've Played So Far, What Score Would You Give Starfield?
@Spider-Kev, I agree 100% as long as the frame rate is consistent. Bad frame pacing at 30fps is extremely noticeable. Played through cyberpunk at 30fps with no problems, and so far StarField is good. I’ll choose graphics over fps every time for rpg’s or open world games.
Re: Review: Starfield - Bethesda Serves Up Its Best RPG Yet In A Messy, Exciting And Emotional Space Odyssey
@Cashews the first half life game on pc would make me feel sick after about 5 to 10 mins and morrowind after about 30mins but I haven’t had a recent game make me sick.
Re: Xbox Wins FTC Court Case As Judge Denies Preliminary Injunction
@Nickhyazaki no they said at court that they won’t go exclusive but maybe in a few years after this dies down they’ll stop CoD on PS.
Re: Xbox Wins FTC Court Case As Judge Denies Preliminary Injunction
@Grumblevolcano sony’s business practices started this its just that Microsoft came along with a bigger chequebook thats all
Re: Poll: Are You Still Enjoying GTA 5 In 2023?
@Kaloudz me too, I much prefer the Yakuza games
Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Aiming For 2023 Xbox Release, But Series S Version Still Needs More Work
@YonkoBuggyTheClown you’re exactly right, console are in-effect pc’s just with one (or two in the cade of xbox) specs unlike Other Pc’s. To suggest the series s is holding back game development is just bs. Devs put the optimisation time into where they think sales are and this case the S comes last.
Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Aiming For 2023 Xbox Release, But Series S Version Still Needs More Work
@Hutchilawd its bs if it can run on minimum spec pc no problem it can run on an S.
Its easier to code for a console as opposed to a pc. The real problem is they aren’t putting as much hours into xbox dev time as the think the sales will be on ps5/pc.
Also who wants to play an RPG in split screen mode, i sure as hell don’t.
Re: UK CMA Issues Official Response To EU's Activision Blizzard Verdict
What have the cma been smoking, free and open marketplace? When was the last time you could play a sony game on xbox, or visa versa.
Never is the answer, to suggest that microsoft or any publisher should not have the right to say where their content can be played is plain stupid. Somebody should sue the cma stating they can’t play god of war on their xbox, or halo on play station.
Re: Xbox Fans Call On Bethesda To Delay Redfall Until 60FPS Is Ready
@lumothesinner exactly. Given the choice for this type of game I’ll go with better graphics and 30fps. Played through cyberpunk at 30fps and enjoyed it throughly. People pay way too much attention to sites like digital foundry nowadays.
Re: Ubisoft Moves To $70 Price Point With Next-Gen-Only Skull & Bones
@Fenbops plus lots of recent games don’t launch fully optimised and need several months of patches to get it right
Re: Former Xbox Exec Questions Microsoft's Ability To Sell Xbox In Japan
@TheArCadeBot also sony are backing out of Japanese game’s development too.