@Coletrain So you think the PS6 will be less than the PS5 Pro? Only ask as i am Harcore interested in what they will do (lower the price of PS5 Pro before 6 launches, discontinue it before the launch of 6?)
@TheGameThrifter Yeah but with the increasing cost of making games it doesn't really work for most games anymore, it's be double interesting what happens next as only a few companies will be able to make AAA games costing hundreds of millions of dollars
@OldGamer999 Think it's well known most work on barely any profit but the PS Pro must be well over priced to be able to drop Β£140, cannot think of another that did this in recent memory, 7th gen was the last time that happened with any regularity (the heyday of moore's law, no sadly dead, hence this is the first gen prices of console have gone up as they no longer get cheaper to make due to ship shrinkage as they used to, so increases in part cost mid gen can no longer be easily absorbed, especially as games often don't make the money back these days)
@Weebleman I've seen nothing but rumours saying the PS5 Pro is the only proffitable one, which makes sense, no way would they be able to drop the price that much if it wasn't over priced to start with π€£ and as i said before, double intertesting to see what happens with the PS6 price in comparrison π
and I hope so much the rumours that next gen will be pushed back to avoid the ram and ssd prices going crazy (for the ai centres being built for the next 3-5 years) as it will mitagate another problem i saw from a 2027-28 next gen release. How many are still on last gen? how many won't you get on next gen because they'll buy a current gen console for GTA but cannot see them buying anext gen console a year later
@Fiendish-Beaver Nah you are not alone, i don't mind fiddling with PCs and the steam deck but Yep, still prefer just turning a console on and playing games, but have a bit of a steam library (those sales are crazy tempting π€£) so a hybrid system (which must be the point of the Rog Ally X, they knew it wouldn't sell well, so why do it? free testers to get the operating system as good as it can be before the next hybrid xbox? only reason i can see (and make it scalable and traferable to other devices)
@OldGamer999 Think PS5 Pro was sold at a premium becasue they knew there would be a smaller uptake, so yeah they could cut it it's price but it's well known console are made with a thin profit or none at all. The Pro is an odd one too, what will they do with it? At Β£699.99 keeping it around at that price must mean the PS6 will have to be more otherwise it would look odd, even then if they discontinue it and the ps6 is Β£650 then all buyers will know they were scalped π€£
@PressR2 and plenty of reason why you would believe it, like they said muliple times there is a next gen xbox like they have said there will be one multiple times then there is this from xbox wire back in June
'This week, Xbox announced it is actively building its next-generation lineup across console, handheld, PC, cloud, and accessories. As part of this, Xbox unveiled that it has entered into a strategic, multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including future first-party consoles and cloud.'
@DeadSpace Nah, the console isnβt popular enough to get hacked like the PS5 has, 360 is the newest hacked Xbox console, in time though, who knows. All the PS ones have been though π Dev mode is a reasonable half way house
@LordDieALot LOVED System Shock, love how it didn't hold my hand and i got to explore the place and work it out myself, heard 2 was better so might get that (although i'm perma skint so reward points are my only saviour π)
@thefly0810 The original ended becuase either they couldn't get the games to run or the license was just too expensive, but yeah hope they are saving the Activision stuff for the 25th anniversary next year, if not then yeah, no idea what they are playing at (might be why all the COD games are on sale now, one last Hoorah) or maybe they keep them to milk forever π
@Gryzor Double odd as i had no such issues i could see, but i am one of those 'magic' people who really doesn't notice 60FPS vs 30, i honestly didn't mind when 360 Dark Souls tanked to almost single figures when all hell broke lose in the bottom of Blight Town, fond memories of it actually
@Shinato2024 Yeah they said years ago they aimed to get a game out a quarter, now seems they are doing that or better, shame it took so long but they need activsion to do it and Hell what a lot of fuss there was about that purchse, wonder if Netflix buying Warner will be anywhere near as bad π
@themightyant yeah but 7 years and no real progress when ms came knocking for ai money they had to close anything not close to finishing, and i could tell they didn't want to
@thefly0810 Agreed but i belive them, they hit the end of either techincal problems thta could not be solved (maybe next gen?) and licenses they could not get agreed (Outrun 2 i'm glad i still have my OG Xbox set up β€οΈ)
Yep, it's been Great, playstaion may have Gears one, but i played though all 6 a month ago and they are all Great, likewise Halo 1 is coming to PS but we've had the Master Chief collection for forever (okay wasn't good for a while π€£) but the vast number of games i have that are backwards compatible from the OG xbox forward is GREAT. Fingers crossed next gen can find a way to play licensed games
As always, i'll be interested in Edge's review, but the beauty of Gamepass is still i can try games like this when, if i didn't have it, i probaly wouldn't buy it; Loving Ball x Pit at the moment but didn't appeal to me from trailers, how wrong i was (becuase gameplay is how the game plays, you cannot see it obvs π€£) Still Hoooray for Gamepass
Love how it's a rumour that just Xbox will put it's prices up because of the ai server ram gold rush, but not Playstation or Nintendo, odd given xbox is the lowest selling of the three π€£
Ah was sitting on points for GTA6 but we all know what happened there; now i'm stuck, FF16? Capcom Fighting Collection 2? Not sure but the points are burning a hole in my pocket and having many games still to play has never stopped me buying moreπ€£
The Drama in this makes me laugh, so thanks; until they an anything we know nothing, except maybe a deal between them and amd to make chips for the new Xbox, so whatβs to doubt?
@Kaloudz Yeah given games take crazy long to make they would be better of going either every other year or every 3 years to make the campaign Great while supporting the mutliplaye with Yearly update but it will probaly still sell like crazy so where's the motivation for them to do it π€£
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Re: Talking Point: How Much Would You Be Willing To Spend On The Next Xbox Console?
@Coletrain So you think the PS6 will be less than the PS5 Pro? Only ask as i am Harcore interested in what they will do (lower the price of PS5 Pro before 6 launches, discontinue it before the launch of 6?)
Re: Talking Point: How Much Would You Be Willing To Spend On The Next Xbox Console?
Had to use a currency convertor, so $1,076.48 π€£π
Re: Five Reasons Why 2026 Is One Of The Most Important Years In Xbox History
@TheGameThrifter Yeah but with the increasing cost of making games it doesn't really work for most games anymore, it's be double interesting what happens next as only a few companies will be able to make AAA games costing hundreds of millions of dollars
Re: Five Reasons Why 2026 Is One Of The Most Important Years In Xbox History
@OldGamer999 Think it's well known most work on barely any profit but the PS Pro must be well over priced to be able to drop Β£140, cannot think of another that did this in recent memory, 7th gen was the last time that happened with any regularity (the heyday of moore's law, no sadly dead, hence this is the first gen prices of console have gone up as they no longer get cheaper to make due to ship shrinkage as they used to, so increases in part cost mid gen can no longer be easily absorbed, especially as games often don't make the money back these days)
Re: Five Reasons Why 2026 Is One Of The Most Important Years In Xbox History
@Weebleman I've seen nothing but rumours saying the PS5 Pro is the only proffitable one, which makes sense, no way would they be able to drop the price that much if it wasn't over priced to start with π€£ and as i said before, double intertesting to see what happens with the PS6 price in comparrison π
Re: Five Reasons Why 2026 Is One Of The Most Important Years In Xbox History
and I hope so much the rumours that next gen will be pushed back to avoid the ram and ssd prices going crazy (for the ai centres being built for the next 3-5 years) as it will mitagate another problem i saw from a 2027-28 next gen release. How many are still on last gen? how many won't you get on next gen because they'll buy a current gen console for GTA but cannot see them buying anext gen console a year later
Re: Five Reasons Why 2026 Is One Of The Most Important Years In Xbox History
@Fiendish-Beaver Nah you are not alone, i don't mind fiddling with PCs and the steam deck but Yep, still prefer just turning a console on and playing games, but have a bit of a steam library (those sales are crazy tempting π€£) so a hybrid system (which must be the point of the Rog Ally X, they knew it wouldn't sell well, so why do it? free testers to get the operating system as good as it can be before the next hybrid xbox? only reason i can see (and make it scalable and traferable to other devices)
Re: Five Reasons Why 2026 Is One Of The Most Important Years In Xbox History
@OldGamer999 Think PS5 Pro was sold at a premium becasue they knew there would be a smaller uptake, so yeah they could cut it it's price but it's well known console are made with a thin profit or none at all. The Pro is an odd one too, what will they do with it? At Β£699.99 keeping it around at that price must mean the PS6 will have to be more otherwise it would look odd, even then if they discontinue it and the ps6 is Β£650 then all buyers will know they were scalped π€£
Re: Five Reasons Why 2026 Is One Of The Most Important Years In Xbox History
@PressR2 and plenty of reason why you would believe it, like they said muliple times there is a next gen xbox like they have said there will be one multiple times then there is this from xbox wire back in June
'This week, Xbox announced it is actively building its next-generation lineup across console, handheld, PC, cloud, and accessories. As part of this, Xbox unveiled that it has entered into a strategic, multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including future first-party consoles and cloud.'
Re: Here Are The Top 10 Xbox Games Of 2025 According To Metacritic
Great there are so many games worth playing (8/10 or better)
Re: Opinion: Backwards Compatibility Still Adds So Much Value To Xbox Series X|S In 2025
@DeadSpace Nah, the console isnβt popular enough to get hacked like the PS5 has, 360 is the newest hacked Xbox console, in time though, who knows. All the PS ones have been though π Dev mode is a reasonable half way house
Re: Xbox Countdown Sale 2025 Now Live, 2000+ Games Discounted
@LordDieALot LOVED System Shock, love how it didn't hold my hand and i got to explore the place and work it out myself, heard 2 was better so might get that (although i'm perma skint so reward points are my only saviour π)
Re: Opinion: Backwards Compatibility Still Adds So Much Value To Xbox Series X|S In 2025
@DeadSpace Yeah that's why i have all the modded consoles i can, you just cannot trust them not to remove games
Re: Opinion: Backwards Compatibility Still Adds So Much Value To Xbox Series X|S In 2025
@thefly0810 The original ended becuase either they couldn't get the games to run or the license was just too expensive, but yeah hope they are saving the Activision stuff for the 25th anniversary next year, if not then yeah, no idea what they are playing at (might be why all the COD games are on sale now, one last Hoorah) or maybe they keep them to milk forever π
Re: Opinion: Backwards Compatibility Still Adds So Much Value To Xbox Series X|S In 2025
@Gryzor Double odd as i had no such issues i could see, but i am one of those 'magic' people who really doesn't notice 60FPS vs 30, i honestly didn't mind when 360 Dark Souls tanked to almost single figures when all hell broke lose in the bottom of Blight Town, fond memories of it actually
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Hope To See From Xbox Developer Direct Next Month?
@themightyant Yeah i can see that and blame MS wholeheartedly
Re: Xbox Celebrates 'Incredible' 2025 And Thanks The Fans In End Of Year Message
@Shinato2024 Yeah they said years ago they aimed to get a game out a quarter, now seems they are doing that or better, shame it took so long but they need activsion to do it and Hell what a lot of fuss there was about that purchse, wonder if Netflix buying Warner will be anywhere near as bad π
Re: Xbox Announces Start Date And First Five Deals For The Countdown Sale 2025
Let my Xmas Digital shopping for the Offsprings begin ππ
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Hope To See From Xbox Developer Direct Next Month?
@themightyant yeah but 7 years and no real progress when ms came knocking for ai money they had to close anything not close to finishing, and i could tell they didn't want to
Re: These 30+ Games Are Coming To Xbox Next Week (December 8-12)
Thank Goodness You're Here! 89% on Metacritic!!
Re: Seven More Games Set To Be Delisted On Xbox In December 2025
Are these all just licensed games aimed at kids? and maybe it's cheap licensing when only bought for a short amount of time?
Re: Seven More Games Set To Be Delisted On Xbox In December 2025
This is why all consoles need to be hacked, the PS is popluar enough to get attention but seems almost no one is working on xbox
Re: Xbox Winter Demo Fest Now Live, 20+ Games Available To Play For Free
@jesse_dylan π€£ You read my mind, maybe i'll download a couple and actuslly try to play them this time π€£
Re: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About December Xbox Release Octopath Traveler 0
@jesse_dylan π€£ My memory is awful but i'm so used to getting back to a game with the "where am i and what am i doing" sense, i don't mind it
Re: Opinion: Backwards Compatibility Still Adds So Much Value To Xbox Series X|S In 2025
@thefly0810 Agreed but i belive them, they hit the end of either techincal problems thta could not be solved (maybe next gen?) and licenses they could not get agreed (Outrun 2 i'm glad i still have my OG Xbox set up β€οΈ)
Re: Opinion: Backwards Compatibility Still Adds So Much Value To Xbox Series X|S In 2025
and it's not just the backwards compatability, it's the ones that have frameboosts and 4k upscale, the OG Psychnauts looks GREAT
Re: Opinion: Backwards Compatibility Still Adds So Much Value To Xbox Series X|S In 2025
Yep, it's been Great, playstaion may have Gears one, but i played though all 6 a month ago and they are all Great, likewise Halo 1 is coming to PS but we've had the Master Chief collection for forever (okay wasn't good for a while π€£) but the vast number of games i have that are backwards compatible from the OG xbox forward is GREAT. Fingers crossed next gen can find a way to play licensed games
Re: Talking Point: Four Years On, Did Halo Infinite Ever Live Up To Expectations?
Yep, Loved the story and Gameplay π
Re: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About December Xbox Release Octopath Traveler 0
@jesse_dylan I just play till i've had enough, then role onto something else, but come back and finish it later, works for me π
Re: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About December Xbox Release Octopath Traveler 0
@jesse_dylan We are all different, i Love beating games π
Re: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About December Xbox Release Octopath Traveler 0
I still have 1+2 to play π€£
Re: This Thursday's PC Gaming Show Could Include Some Xbox Game Pass Reveals
Friday morning for me, the days of past midnight E3 watching are long gone for me, Good Times though π
Re: When Will The Xbox Countdown Sale 2025 Be Revealed?
@FraserG Well that's that then π€£π
Re: When Will The Xbox Countdown Sale 2025 Be Revealed?
Having a quick check i don't think they have so betting on the 19th
Re: When Will The Xbox Countdown Sale 2025 Be Revealed?
@FraserG Have they started it as early as the 12th before?
Re: When Will The Xbox Countdown Sale 2025 Be Revealed?
π€£ Just resisted the Black Friday event now the christmas one is impending π€£
Re: Routine Is Getting All Kinds Of Review Scores Ahead Of Its Xbox Game Pass Launch
As always, i'll be interested in Edge's review, but the beauty of Gamepass is still i can try games like this when, if i didn't have it, i probaly wouldn't buy it; Loving Ball x Pit at the moment but didn't appeal to me from trailers, how wrong i was (becuase gameplay is how the game plays, you cannot see it obvs π€£) Still Hoooray for Gamepass
Re: Six Games Are Leaving Xbox Game Pass In Early December 2025
Hah, might have to buy some of these then π€£π
Re: Xbox Series X|S Could Go Up In Price Again Due To Potential RAM Shortages, It's Claimed
Love how it's a rumour that just Xbox will put it's prices up because of the ai server ram gold rush, but not Playstation or Nintendo, odd given xbox is the lowest selling of the three π€£
Re: Talking Point: What Have You Bought In The Xbox Black Friday Sale 2025 So Far?
Ah was sitting on points for GTA6 but we all know what happened there; now i'm stuck, FF16? Capcom Fighting Collection 2? Not sure but the points are burning a hole in my pocket and having many games still to play has never stopped me buying moreπ€£
Re: Sarah Bond Insists Hardware Is 'Absolutely Core' To Xbox, Teases Powerful Next-Gen Console
@Romans12 Well we shall see but i shall come back and say 'told you so' when the next Xbox is released π€£
Re: Seven New Games Added To Xbox Retro Classics, Including A PS1 Title From 1997
Loved Blackthorne on the SNES!!
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Is 24 Years Old Today, What Do You Expect From Next Year's 25th Birthday?
@OldGamer999 Yep, I expect GAMES GAMES GAMES that Iβll have to make time to play π
Re: Sarah Bond Insists Hardware Is 'Absolutely Core' To Xbox, Teases Powerful Next-Gen Console
The Drama in this makes me laugh, so thanks; until they an anything we know nothing, except maybe a deal between them and amd to make chips for the new Xbox, so whatβs to doubt?
Re: Black Ops 7 Campaign Review (Xbox): Black Ops Pedigree Can't Save This Mess Of A COD Campaign
@Kaloudz Yeah given games take crazy long to make they would be better of going either every other year or every 3 years to make the campaign Great while supporting the mutliplaye with Yearly update but it will probaly still sell like crazy so where's the motivation for them to do it π€£
Re: Poll: Now That The Dust Has Settled, Which Xbox Game Pass Tier Are You Subscribed To?
Stayed on Ultimate, but cancelled one of my kids, as the don't use it, to make up for it
Re: Roundup: All The Xbox Reveals From November 2025's State Of Play
Diidn't think the show was too bad until the end where i was expecting maybe a good game and instead they banging on trying to sell us stuff π
Re: The Original Modern Warfare 2 Appears In Xbox Game Pass Premium Ad
@themightyant Damn Right, i've been waiting forever π
Re: Five Years On, Xbox Series S Is Still A Fantastic Place For Current-Gen Gaming
@Medic_alert Ah, yeah not new is always cheaper π
Re: Xbox Confirms Its First Two Game Pass Titles For December 2025, And They Both Look Brilliant
@InterceptorAlpha Fair play, but as i said i get financial reasons, but not the drama