@FatalBubbles @NEStalgia well either way. I’m surprised something like this happened whether it’s internal or not. It’s so awful. Like sure there is social media stuff but that’s not the same thing.
@FatalBubbles @NEStalgia againI don’t think that’s what matters here. She clearly called out other devs which I can’t see you doing unless it happened.
@SplooshDmg well the girl that hit my car and didn’t have a license is claiming I hit her and my insurance say unless the police report magically says she’s at fault I’m out a grand.
@Ralizah Genshin isn’t even done either. Like the main story plot is no wheee near close to being complete. I don’t want to play something that has no ending ever
@SplooshDmg @NEStalgia aren’t there two models and the other one is 599?
@UltimateOtaku91 Well it’s not like I’ve never owned Playstation. I have a Vita. Not exactly something people purchase if they hate a brand. I’m not anti-Sony or some stupid thing. I just don’t see a compelling reason to get more than what I have current. Now if Sony wants to release a slim model at 399, and their library somehow gets something I have to have sure. But at the moment my Switch/Xbox gets anything I care about KH4 might break that but who knows.
@SplooshDmg not sure if you knew about the Ally and was trying lot to derail this as much as I have lol. I really need a price. There are also a few other devices that don’t get as much attention that are similar that I’m looking at but eh.
@SplooshDmg which is where I am at. I want a PC but I don’t exactly have the room. But everything I want to play is on PC. I’m really on the fence about Steam Deck. .
@SplooshDmg @NEStalgia and I’m never going to hear the end of it from @UltimateOtaku91. No thanks. He’ll laugh that one to his grave.
But in all honesty. Im not interested in their lineup of games either. Sure some exclusives from third party but God of War does nothing for me. I guess his nice to look at? But my dream was never to run around as a half naked man yelling Boy and avenging my wife. Nor do I get zombies unless they’re cute. Otherwise nope Zombies just aren’t my thing.
@Ralizah absolutely MS has great lineup of smaller and medium level titles. The Marque titles are the issue which even Gears isn’t. And Redfall was never going to be. Let’s be real a vampire looter shooter isn’t that.
My issue is that while they don’t want to stifle creativity someone over there needs to have the bravado to say hey you know this game maybe needs to be scoped down by a lot. Somewhere over there needs to stop over hyping games.
@Ralizah Nintendo arguably is the most inventive of the three when it comes to gameplay. As well as the most diverse in the terms of what they publish. For every Mario Kart game, there is a game like Mario circuit to go with it. I mean Labo? They also publish the widest range of genres.
@SplooshDmg Xbox does and I’m willing to talk about how annoyed I am with them. It’s more than gone. They are lower than they were before. Releasing Redfall in this state is an unmitigated disaster. Bethesda needs a much firmer hand than they have had recently.
If this isn’t Xbox wake up call I don’t know what is.
@SplooshDmg I don’t think either of you guys are disputing that.. I don’t think any one I regularly speak to is. The only one I was pointing that out to was the other person who brought up Nintendo in the first place (not me) like they have no dirty laundry. I’m just saying don’t bring up any of those corps like they are perfect. The triple A industry sucks. They all look the other way if they get money. That’s issue.
@SplooshDmg @Ralizah Here’s the thing my only point literally my only points is that it’s reflection on their brand. Nintendo went out an apologizes for it and then said they were going to work on fixing it. But haven’t. There is no motivation.just like there is no motivation to oversee the end product. The triple A industry simply doesn’t care and Nintendo is just as motivated not to care when something is making them a ton of money.
@Tharsman or shipping emulated games as a “rare” physical?
@Ralizah The game reflected poorly on Nintendo. and they apologized for it. It’s a IP that is as intertwined with Nintendo and a reflection on their brand. Otherwise why apologize? Nintendo are ones people expected to answer for it and still do. And Nintendo again is the one that apologized for it. “
@old-dad you brought up Nintendo first. But cute. You made it a what about-ism when you tried to make Nintendo the white Lily Corp. I said Xbox deserves the L and they do. I wouldn’t even commented had you not made it a what about-ism.
@UltimateOtaku91 @Ralizah I know that Nintendo doesn’t outright own GameFreak. But they do own a part of the Pokémon IP and Nintendo published it. It’s as much on Nintendo that Scarlrt and Violet are broken as ir is on GameFreak. That’s what I’m saying.
@old-dad OMG you did not just do that. Wow see that’s the problem. All of that companies have issues. I’m going call them out. MS/Xbox takes an L on this But Don’t bring up Nintendo, if you don’t expect me to go through their laundry list of sins. That’s the problem with the Triple A industry. Fans like you act like certain companies are perfect.
The industry is trash right now. We need to hold the accountable.
@SplooshDmg I don’t know Tango might be fighting them for that title. But yeah It’s good solid machine studio. I love the t they can have big projects and little ones.
@SplooshDmg I can’t add anything that hasn’t been said it’s just disgusting at this point. Like people question HiFi success, and it’s clear they were because they get to expand. But you know why the question even exists? Because MS didn’t come out and show how well that game did for them.
But hey I know you can buy a Redfall controller. No HiFi one. And trust I’ve seen how well controllers sell for them 54k in one month. It’s worth it but why didn’t Hi Fi get one? At this point? Like they still could have shadow dropped then done what Nintendo did with Metroid Prime and ship a physical later.
@SplooshDmg I don’t disagree. They always seem so focused on the wrong things. I mean I get good co-op games probably generate more engagement. But that’s going to be word of mouth. Single player games need more marketing it. Also you know physicals.
You have a great game from studio ready to take it to the next level and MS investing in them more, but their game wasn’t marketing nor properly sold in stores.
Then you have a b-tier game from a household name studio, and it terrible. What little marketing MS has gets thrown there o_O
And the image of shooter box continues despite the last few shooters being lack luster.
@SplooshDmg well I got my game which is t Triple A with Hifi Rush.I wasn’t exciting for this. But of course, I’m the minority not the majority. I had more fun with Slime Rancher 2. FPS games have to be solid 60 for me to really think about playing them and no lost much lunch ._.
@NEStalgia I think the issue is the hands off approach which I think works for say the Forza teams or Obsidian, and I think it works well. But this game always looked like something didn’t make sense. At first it was too much like Back for Blood, then it was the Co-op issues for a team who os not the best Co-op games. It’s not GP, it’s just no one ising their brains and saying yeah maybe not be co-op. Maybe be single player. Not to mention a lot of these feels like B projects that maybe should be cast in the spotlight.
Another issue is some studios have delivered games Tango, Obsidian, etc but they aren’t the brass ring games. Neither is Redfall, but I feel like everyone is acting like this was going to be when they always knew it wouldn’t be. I mean no expected it this broken but, let’s be real, again this was always a B project.
@SplooshDmg at least you remember my name.
@nomither6 and that’s where I disagree. I’ll give you a recent example FE: Engage really didn’t have a story, the characters were okay, but the core gameplay was solid. I really enjoyed the experience and yes the story was “uninspired”, but the gameplay loop was addictive. And as much as story is cool on top of the game I don’t need a good story for a platformer, fighting game, racing game, puzzle game, or even a rhythm game. I just want a fun experience in those cases. I can watch a movie or read a book for a good story, but I can’t play book.
However I will say the vast amount of general John Q players tend favor graphics and other things like frame rates. Buggy games are often overlooked for shiny
@NEStalgia unfortunately. Thing is I knew this game was going to be broken at launch. I knew they should have delayed it longer. How does anyone not see that! Yet I have to assume some where the metrics show it doesn’t matter. People still bought Cyberpunk Broken and Pokémon still not fixed. But you know details.
@FatalBubbles I wouldn’t say I’m not a fan. I just understand where someone may come from. Me personally I find it weirds something like Outer Worlds is considered an RPG but something like LAD Isshi isn’t. Or Xenoblade Chronicles 1 an RPG. Again I understand where people come from.
But as I said @NEStalgia I’d in novel writing mode, so you’re in for a few posts .
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Re: Review: ASUS ROG Ally - The Xbox Handheld We've Been Waiting For?
@SplooshDmg ohhh Steam power ?
Re: Review: ASUS ROG Ally - The Xbox Handheld We've Been Waiting For?
@SplooshDmg industrial battery backup ?
Re: EU 'Expected' To Approve Xbox Activision Blizzard Deal Next Week
@UltimateOtaku91 right that’s what I’m saying don’t count the chickens before they hatch.
Re: EU 'Expected' To Approve Xbox Activision Blizzard Deal Next Week
@SplooshDmg the FTC could be beat in court. Khans tactics are a bit nutty. I just don’t know what that means if they do manage the EU and the FTC
._. I just want this ride to be over either way.
Re: Redfall Dev Reveals Sadness Over 'Mean Spirited' Feedback From Peers
@FatalBubbles @NEStalgia well either way. I’m surprised something like this happened whether it’s internal or not. It’s so awful. Like sure there is social media stuff but that’s not the same thing.
Re: Redfall Dev Reveals Sadness Over 'Mean Spirited' Feedback From Peers
@FatalBubbles @NEStalgia againI don’t think that’s what matters here. She clearly called out other devs which I can’t see you doing unless it happened.
Internet commenters aside.
Re: Redfall Dev Reveals Sadness Over 'Mean Spirited' Feedback From Peers
@FatalBubbles again Texas has a bunch of studios not related to Bethesda.
Airship Sybdicate
iron Galaxy
Aspyr
Bluepoint
Certain Affinity
Cyrtek
Devolvet Digital
And this are just the ones in Austin and noy all of the ones in Austin. I stopped at D.
Like there are way more. This could have been over drinks or lunch.
Re: Redfall Dev Reveals Sadness Over 'Mean Spirited' Feedback From Peers
@FatalBubbles well AustinTexas not Lyon. Texas is pretty big even if it wasn’t internal.
Not that Lyon is small. But just that there a number of studies there.
Re: Redfall Dev Reveals Sadness Over 'Mean Spirited' Feedback From Peers
@FatalBubbles well without context it’s hard to know who this is. Is this happening at a bar over drinks.
It sounds like other Bethesda devs. And it could disgruntled fez employees. But it really doesn’t excuse it if it’s devs to other devs.
Re: Redfall Dev Reveals Sadness Over 'Mean Spirited' Feedback From Peers
@FatalBubbles exactly its other devs. Who would talk about resumes at our level? Also she said people she looked up to.
I think she gets “gamers” will make comments on social media. Industry people doing this to them is ridiculous.
Re: These 15+ Games Are Coming To Xbox Next Week (May 8-12)
I’m all ready for Fuga2 … I know it’s just me
Re: Xbox Announces Permanent Price Cut For Series X|S Storage Expansion Cards
@SplooshDmg no joke. It’s finally starting to get into poor girl living on the lam in Mexico territory
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@SplooshDmg wow you have all my problems solved.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@SplooshDmg great but she hit me. I want my car fixed :c
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@SplooshDmg that won’t be obvious at all. Nope bearded ladies are perfectly normal on this day and age.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@SplooshDmg won’t work. I can’t grows mustache and it might look a little weird with my other “assets”.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@SplooshDmg well the girl that hit my car and didn’t have a license is claiming I hit her and my insurance say unless the police report magically says she’s at fault I’m out a grand.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@SplooshDmg I don’t know I’m kind of in a rock and hard place right now with other none gaming things. And
@Ralizah yeah that’s why I can’t play it ._. I need my fix now.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@Ralizah Genshin isn’t even done either. Like the main story plot is no wheee near close to being complete. I don’t want to play something that has no ending ever
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@SplooshDmg @NEStalgia aren’t there two models and the other one is 599?
@UltimateOtaku91 Well it’s not like I’ve never owned Playstation. I have a Vita. Not exactly something people purchase if they hate a brand. I’m not anti-Sony or some stupid thing. I just don’t see a compelling reason to get more than what I have current. Now if Sony wants to release a slim model at 399, and their library somehow gets something I have to have sure. But at the moment my Switch/Xbox gets anything I care about KH4 might break that but who knows.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@UltimateOtaku91 hmmm sure you won’t.
@SplooshDmg not sure if you knew about the Ally and was trying lot to derail this as much as I have lol. I really need a price. There are also a few other devices that don’t get as much attention that are similar that I’m looking at but eh.
Not sure about that now.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@SplooshDmg which is where I am at. I want a PC but I don’t exactly have the room. But everything I want to play is on PC. I’m really on the fence about Steam Deck. .
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@SplooshDmg @NEStalgia and I’m never going to hear the end of it from @UltimateOtaku91. No thanks. He’ll laugh that one to his grave.
But in all honesty. Im not interested in their lineup of games either. Sure some exclusives from third party but God of War does nothing for me. I guess his nice to look at? But my dream was never to run around as a half naked man yelling Boy and avenging my wife. Nor do I get zombies unless they’re cute. Otherwise nope Zombies just aren’t my thing.
@Ralizah absolutely MS has great lineup of smaller and medium level titles. The Marque titles are the issue which even Gears isn’t. And Redfall was never going to be. Let’s be real a vampire looter shooter isn’t that.
My issue is that while they don’t want to stifle creativity someone over there needs to have the bravado to say hey you know this game maybe needs to be scoped down by a lot. Somewhere over there needs to stop over hyping games.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@Ralizah Nintendo arguably is the most inventive of the three when it comes to gameplay. As well as the most diverse in the terms of what they publish. For every Mario Kart game, there is a game like Mario circuit to go with it. I mean Labo? They also publish the widest range of genres.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@SplooshDmg Xbox does and I’m willing to talk about how annoyed I am with them. It’s more than gone. They are lower than they were before. Releasing Redfall in this state is an unmitigated disaster. Bethesda needs a much firmer hand than they have had recently.
If this isn’t Xbox wake up call I don’t know what is.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@SplooshDmg I don’t think either of you guys are disputing that.. I don’t think any one I regularly speak to is. The only one I was pointing that out to was the other person who brought up Nintendo in the first place (not me) like they have no dirty laundry. I’m just saying don’t bring up any of those corps like they are perfect. The triple A industry sucks. They all look the other way if they get money. That’s issue.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@SplooshDmg @Ralizah Here’s the thing my only point literally my only points is that it’s reflection on their brand. Nintendo went out an apologizes for it and then said they were going to work on fixing it. But haven’t. There is no motivation.just like there is no motivation to oversee the end product. The triple A industry simply doesn’t care and Nintendo is just as motivated not to care when something is making them a ton of money.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@old-dad really so you didn’t say “ Sony and Nintendo have people in charge who used to make games not play twitter” back in post #35?
Yeah that’s what I thought. And I can’t believe you just excused a game releasing with a lack of content. You are ridiculous
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@Tharsman or shipping emulated games as a “rare” physical?
@Ralizah The game reflected poorly on Nintendo. and they apologized for it. It’s a IP that is as intertwined with Nintendo and a reflection on their brand. Otherwise why apologize? Nintendo are ones people expected to answer for it and still do. And Nintendo again is the one that apologized for it.
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Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@old-dad you brought up Nintendo first. But cute. You made it a what about-ism when you tried to make Nintendo the white Lily Corp. I said Xbox deserves the L and they do. I wouldn’t even commented had you not made it a what about-ism.
Hey @UltimateOtaku91 you an Xbot now?
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@UltimateOtaku91 @Ralizah I know that Nintendo doesn’t outright own GameFreak. But they do own a part of the Pokémon IP and Nintendo published it. It’s as much on Nintendo that Scarlrt and Violet are broken as ir is on GameFreak. That’s what I’m saying.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@old-dad OMG you did not just do that. Wow see that’s the problem. All of that companies have issues. I’m going call them out. MS/Xbox takes an L on this But Don’t bring up Nintendo, if you don’t expect me to go through their laundry list of sins. That’s the problem with the Triple A industry. Fans like you act like certain companies are perfect.
The industry is trash right now. We need to hold the accountable.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Needs To Improve' Its Development Process
@old-dad explain to me why the bugs in Scarlet and Violet still aren’t fixed?
Re: Redfall Dev Says The Team Is 'Continuing To Improve' The Xbox Title
@nomither6 unfortunately yes. Im sick of fox it later.
Re: Microsoft Says To Expect 'New Surprises And First-Looks' From Xbox Games Showcase 2023
@SplooshDmg @Sakisa agreed ! Really excited for Double Fine’s Projects.
Re: Microsoft Says To Expect 'New Surprises And First-Looks' From Xbox Games Showcase 2023
@SplooshDmg I don’t know Tango might be fighting them for that title. But yeah It’s good solid machine studio. I love the t they can have big projects and little ones.
Re: Microsoft Says To Expect 'New Surprises And First-Looks' From Xbox Games Showcase 2023
@SplooshDmg I do have the strongest faith in Obsidian. And it’s not lien Grounded or Pentiment were bad. All signs point to a good strong maybe.
Re: Microsoft Says To Expect 'New Surprises And First-Looks' From Xbox Games Showcase 2023
@SplooshDmg I’m GPU f yo try and start a dialogue with you hopefully no one decides to make commentary
I think Avowed had a good chance of being there. I think it’s a 2024 title. 😊
Re: Review: Redfall - Arkane's Undead Experiment Brings Mixed Results To Xbox Game Pass
@SplooshDmg I can’t add anything that hasn’t been said it’s just disgusting at this point. Like people question HiFi success, and it’s clear they were because they get to expand. But you know why the question even exists? Because MS didn’t come out and show how well that game did for them.
But hey I know you can buy a Redfall controller. No HiFi one. And trust I’ve seen how well controllers sell for them 54k in one month. It’s worth it but why didn’t Hi Fi get one? At this point? Like they still could have shadow dropped then done what Nintendo did with Metroid Prime and ship a physical later.
Nothing.
Re: Review: Redfall - Arkane's Undead Experiment Brings Mixed Results To Xbox Game Pass
@SplooshDmg I don’t disagree. They always seem so focused on the wrong things. I mean I get good co-op games probably generate more engagement. But that’s going to be word of mouth. Single player games need more marketing it. Also you know physicals.
You have a great game from studio ready to take it to the next level and MS investing in them more, but their game wasn’t marketing nor properly sold in stores.
Then you have a b-tier game from a household name studio, and it terrible. What little marketing MS has gets thrown there o_O
And the image of shooter box continues despite the last few shooters being lack luster.
Re: Review: Redfall - Arkane's Undead Experiment Brings Mixed Results To Xbox Game Pass
@SplooshDmg well I got my game which is t Triple A with Hifi Rush.I wasn’t exciting for this. But of course, I’m the minority not the majority. I had more fun with Slime Rancher 2. FPS games have to be solid 60 for me to really think about playing them and no lost much lunch ._.
Re: Review: Redfall - Arkane's Undead Experiment Brings Mixed Results To Xbox Game Pass
@SplooshDmg personally or for Xbox?
Re: Review: Redfall - Arkane's Undead Experiment Brings Mixed Results To Xbox Game Pass
@SplooshDmg well I’m sure it was a aSploosh fall when you got down. So that makes sense.
Re: Review: Redfall - Arkane's Undead Experiment Brings Mixed Results To Xbox Game Pass
@SplooshDmg that must have giving you and interesting view point.
Re: Review: Redfall - Arkane's Undead Experiment Brings Mixed Results To Xbox Game Pass
@SplooshDmg nope not at all. Don’t mind me mailing your feet to the floor. Just stay right where you are stranger.
Re: Review: Redfall - Arkane's Undead Experiment Brings Mixed Results To Xbox Game Pass
@NEStalgia I think the issue is the hands off approach which I think works for say the Forza teams or Obsidian, and I think it works well. But this game always looked like something didn’t make sense. At first it was too much like Back for Blood, then it was the Co-op issues for a team who os not the best Co-op games. It’s not GP, it’s just no one ising their brains and saying yeah maybe not be co-op. Maybe be single player. Not to mention a lot of these feels like B projects that maybe should be cast in the spotlight.
Another issue is some studios have delivered games Tango, Obsidian, etc but they aren’t the brass ring games. Neither is Redfall, but I feel like everyone is acting like this was going to be when they always knew it wouldn’t be. I mean no expected it this broken but, let’s be real, again this was always a B project.
@SplooshDmg at least you remember my name.
@nomither6 and that’s where I disagree. I’ll give you a recent example FE: Engage really didn’t have a story, the characters were okay, but the core gameplay was solid. I really enjoyed the experience and yes the story was “uninspired”, but the gameplay loop was addictive. And as much as story is cool on top of the game I don’t need a good story for a platformer, fighting game, racing game, puzzle game, or even a rhythm game. I just want a fun experience in those cases. I can watch a movie or read a book for a good story, but I can’t play book.
However I will say the vast amount of general John Q players tend favor graphics and other things like frame rates. Buggy games are often overlooked for shiny
Re: Review: Redfall - Arkane's Undead Experiment Brings Mixed Results To Xbox Game Pass
@NEStalgia unfortunately. Thing is I knew this game was going to be broken at launch. I knew they should have delayed it longer. How does anyone not see that! Yet I have to assume some where the metrics show it doesn’t matter. People still bought Cyberpunk Broken and Pokémon still not fixed. But you know details.
Re: Review: Redfall - Arkane's Undead Experiment Brings Mixed Results To Xbox Game Pass
@NEStalgia games haven’t lost their magic. I just think people forgot the most important part about games being good- the gameplay.
The triple A industry needs a big wake up call. Maybe this year does it with some many broken games launching left and right. Maybe not.
But I do know there is bunch of titles I’m looking forward to and a bunch I’ve played. None in the triple A space and yet I’m satisfied.
Re: Review: Redfall - Arkane's Undead Experiment Brings Mixed Results To Xbox Game Pass
@UltimateOtaku91 MS would have been fine for a delay. I say this because MS delayed Forza and Starfield again.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Players Are 'Heading For New Zealand' To Play Redfall Early
@FatalBubbles I wouldn’t say I’m not a fan. I just understand where someone may come from. Me personally I find it weirds something like Outer Worlds is considered an RPG but something like LAD Isshi isn’t. Or Xenoblade Chronicles 1 an RPG. Again I understand where people come from.
But as I said @NEStalgia I’d in novel writing mode, so you’re in for a few posts .