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As a huge TMNT fan this is really cool. And it dropped on my birthday no less.

But each turtle individually costing $20 is nuts! 80 for all..

@Markatron84 Huh? I'm talking about new updates and characters/maps. It's weird to publicly mention it with Bleeding Edge...

...huh?? With Bleeding Edge? Can someone pinch me? We're living in a timeline where that game may actually come back?? As someone who loves that game this is so bizarre to read.

I really enjoyed Tactics, it's the Gears game I've enjoyed most since Microsoft bought the rights. I'd 100% love another. Even if they just want to do a re-imagining of the original trilogy in the Tactics style, I'd play it.

@Feffster As long as they don't try to triple down on confusing naming conventions, I'll take it. Just no more consoles with S/X names. Even though Xbox Prime kinda sounds silly, if that's the real name... I'll take it.

@Utena-mobile My brain is basically bubblegum and paperclips cobbled together so these games will be the death of me... but I'm still excited to try them... even if I really, really suck at games requiring me to use my brain.

This isn't a surprise considering the statements over the last few years. The real concern is what's next after this future console.

My biggest concern with it is the naming. I'm truly shocked how they quadrupled down on terrible naming conventions. They named the damn console after units already out...

Xbox One S, One X

Xbox Series S|X

Genius. Just please go with something else, this was a naming fumble on the tier of Wii U.

I'm honestly surprised by the amount of enviornment interactivity. I guess I was just thinking this would be like Skyrim with only really being able to awkwardly jump and sidle around things by abusing physics.

While I am disappointed it is light on plot considering what it's based upon, I'm glad the gameplay at least is stellar. Just a lot of surprises washed over me while reading this review!

I saw these last night-- so far I've picked up the first three films! Trying to grind out for The Hobbit, just hope this lasts a little while.

Xbox themselves will be fine, or mostly fine, if they just turn into a 3rd party publisher. ...Cue the broken record talking about the console, etcetcetc. I think Gamepass will die at that stage, though, unless it actually does take off on mobile which would be a shock.

@Techno92LFC Yeah, HiRez are in a bad way. Just not bothering anymore, it guts me because I adore RR. Can't tell you how hyped I was for Reforged. Realm deserves way better than HiRez.

@Tasuki I do want to say it's not just one game, this comes after multiple of their big exclusives like the one-time Hi-Fi Rush and Sea of Thieves. And Forza is one of the 'big 3' that define what Xbox is. I don't count Indiana Jones since I do think any of the publishers they bought should stay third party (which includes Starfield and Redfall though we know that last one won't get ported)

@Kaloudz See I just can't imagine what a process is going to be, then. Their end goal is cloud streaming, so how can that work? They're not going to give it away free. Maybe downloadable emulators on other systems tied to your Xbox account? But that's a big if, if they can even get something like that running on other platforms. OR if the other platforms even allow it. (I know this is one of probably a dozen potential ideas, I just can't imagine what other option there could be.)

We know rivals won't accept Gamepass on their consoles, and I'm personally skeptical of Gamepass taking off on mobile because those are not the kind of games that rule phones.

I know I've come off grumpy in these replies but it is from a place of concern for Xbox/the gaming landscape in general.

This is a shame, but I've only heard bad things about the relaunch. Hope the dev won't suffer layoffs due to this.

@Tasuki I mean there's 30+ year history of said company existing in a hardware space in multiple mediums: the first tablet in the 90s, the iPod competitor Zune, their own phone devices, and 24+ years of gaming hardware and accessories set to continue for at least several years. It's not entirely correct to say they're a pure software company.

That doesn't stop you from playing there, no, but you and I don't count. Think about it from a normal person's perspective, the people that don't go on sites like these. Do they buy the Xbox which is on the decline and has no exclusives and regularly getting PR black eyes because they have a fetish for tripping over themselves, the PlayStation which is far ahead and known for their first party games and is now also getting Xbox games, or even Nintendo which has the same argument as playstation?

It's not a console war thing, it's not wanting to see a competitor fall and give Sony or Nintendo more room to dictate how things should be done. EVERYONE loses if one of the consoles dies. If the PlayStation went under, it would be just as bad. If Nintendo went under, it would be just as bad. There's no fanboying here, sorry to dissapoint.

Edit: I changed the start of this post because it came off waaay too snarky and I didn't mean to, I apologize.

@NattyKing Yeah, and this will accelerate that death. I'm not saying that like it's a good thing, but Phil Spencer stepped in dog crap and wiped it all over Xbox with his choices over the last few years.

(Edit: yes this is hyperbolic to an extent, he's pushed great things like backwards compatibility and play anywhere, but these are few and far between. Edit 2: fixed the last word of the original message, my phone turned it into mush?? Sorry about that)

@Kaloudz Ten years in the future is actually an argument I make fairly frequently but against it. The idea of my library being held hostage behind a subscription fee when or if they phase out consoles is such an incredibly unappealing idea. No company is going to give you access to your library to stream for free, and having what I've already paid for held hostage behind a scenario like this is where I cannot abide.

@Tasuki Care to explain how I'm a troll for showing concern over my preferred system manufacturer accelerating their demise in the space?

@Millionski Xbox has already been struggling to keep third party devs.

https://www.purexbox.com/news/2024/10/xbox-wants-more-feedback-from-devs-including-why-some-are-avoiding-the-platform

@donv2135

With very select games, (their MLB game was mandated to be on every system or the license holder would walk, and the Lego Horizon game is suggested to be a similar situation since Lego didn't just want one of their branded games on one system.) — I know Sony have been porting all of their games to PC, yes, and it's a good thing they're doing so, but it hasn't really hurt console sales.

Let me know when you see them port games of their own volition to Xbox, and not due to a licensing demand. For the record I would be happy to be proven wrong since this is a sucky situation, but I don't see PlayStation doing anything like this unless they're quite literally already kneeling in the guillotine.

"and you’re based on that what sony ponies would say" I don't know what you mean with this though. I haven't owned a Playstation since the PS3 and despise Sony's choices in the last few years.

@Kaloudz I never said Xbox was shutting down, but the console is absolutely going to suffer and see an accelerated death. We're the minority here, the average joe will see or hear that all of Xbox's games are on PlayStation and just go with that. "Gamepass? What's that? I can just get all this stuff on Playstation anyway so what does it matter?"

@Millionski Slippery slope began with the ports last year, but it was generally seen that if any of the "Big 3" (Halo, Gears, Forza) were ported, the end was nigh.

It is nigh, for the console. Sony's gonna have unrestrained control which is a horrible situation for everybody.

Edit: I added in the names of the 'Big 3' just to help with clarification.

@Kezelpaso I'm hoping the same, just wanted to clarify!

Console time of death: 1:30 PM CST.

It's a slow death rattle from here.

@Kezelpaso Hold on, a little known thing about GOG is that for games that are troublesome to run, they actually do maintenance work to get them to run on modern systems. The publisher has no hand in the support, it's all GOGs internal team doing the patching, making GOG-exclusive releases a novelty for that exact reason.

The Warcraft games that were on GOG were all patched by GOG, Blizzard had no involvement, to give an example.

Is there confirmation that Capcom themselves worked on this? It being GOG-only screams that it was the internal support GOG, not Capcom. But I can't find any info on it.

I'm still on an Xbone, but Eternal Strands looks really good. I'm torn between playing it on gamepass (streaming) or waiting for a sale on PC..

@Fenbops Apparently also have become kind of a support studio for other Xbox teams using Unreal Engine. Which makes sense because a lot of the staff at Coalition came from Epic with the migration.

They know how to make the engine sing.

@Isolte I would definitely also recommend at least a peek at Gears Tactics. You might not like the gameplay, but it does feel like a game right out of the "prime" era of Gears.

@Isolte Mixed bag. 4s campaign was the textbook definition of bland IMO, and I found 5 far worse. I say that as someone who adored the original trilogy and even have all of the books. (4s multiplayer was smooth as butter though. Great time.)

Of course you might like them, and if you have gamepass then you should at least give 4 a go. Despite my naysaying you might end up loving them, and if you do that's great.

I did mostly enjoy Gears Tactics too, it's a prequel turn based strategy game like XCOM that takes place during the original trilogy. Very fun. Some of the campaign cutscenes are obnoxious but the gameplay itself is really good and still manages to feel like Gears.

@JorutoHayabusa I'm probably one of only dozens of people, but I still buy a lot of games on my Xbone. The main purpose is to support Xbox, even if I have a gaming PC that would be preferable for some of the games I've purchased.

Though with this recent news I'm really concerned on if I've just been an idiot.. who knows if this library will still exist in ten years.

(I bought pretty much all of the Square Enix offerings available on Xbone, lots of indies and JRPGs, stuff that's Play Anywhere... even some double dip purchases I already have on Steam if I really like a game enough.)

Oh boy, a $15 fee to play something on a streaming service a few days early! You could buy a whole game for that and just play it until Avowed drops.

This is scummy.

Okay, trying to be as optimistic as I can about this... I still don't see how their console can possibly thrive with this. Even if they do release a handheld, what is the appeal? No exclusives, but you can buy the handheld to then... pay a monthly sub for games?

It's amusing that Redfall may end up being the final true Xbox exclusive.

@Moby We definitely need the big 3, but that is definitely in a console space... there's a real concern if Xbox does start releasing older games on other systems that people will just happily wait for these newer releases because "it will for sure release on Playstation". I've already started seeing that sentiment.

@Kaloudz The 7R stuff is weird, because apparently the exclusivity was extended by another year when Square released the PS5 port of the Part 1? After that I have no idea but I know Sony will trip over their own feet just to screw over Xbox. So I wouldn't be surprised by the extended exclusivity.

Honestly I'm just glad Square was NOT bought out by anybody. That was the huge relief.

@Millionski Is fable confirmed for this year? I thought that was still unconfirmed.

@Kaloudz They still have to abide by whatever deal they made with Sony. Could've been multiple years for all we know. It's clear though they're willing and ready to slam 16 & 7R down onto Xbox the moment they're able to, though.

@Cakefish oof, okay now I feel like a di**. Sorry about that. I hope your family is overall doing much better now

I dont know if this for sure guarantees a games pipeline working at peak performance BUT it is looking really good for Xbox right now. The first time we've been able to say that in what feels like EONS.

I hope the momentum continues. They're going to need it.

I've been eyeballing this re-release of Amalur for years now... might be time.

@Cakefish Uh, I was born in 92 and am currently 32 as well. N64 was "my" first console, though I always played my brother's NES and SNES before that. Stricter parents, perhaps?

Resident Evil 6 is an amazing video game, probably one of the best "summer blockbuster" tier action flicks morphed into a videogame.

Buuuuut it's not a good Resident Evil game. They really should've named it anything else, hell it may have even fared better with the Revelations sub-series name.

And it would be incredibly bizarre if this was the secret announcement... like what? I guess it would be confirmation that RE6 would not receive a remake but still, huh?

@Banjo- "Maybe because some fans of the competing system want Xbox to fail miserably."

There is definitely some of this, and a lot of armchair/internet user executives making comments (I'm one of them) as if they know the best way Xbox should be run.. but I will at least say in my case my negativity comes from a place of concern. I do not want to see Xbox die, drop out of the console race, or squander potential they have. I guess you can say it's on the tough love side.

Sorry for butting into this conversation. I just wanted to add some context for at least a few people around here who regularly come off grumpy (which I know I'm part of too.)

@somnambulance Nuh uh, Phil Spencer said games won't win a console war...

(I am taking his comment somewhat out of context but my God, what an outrageously stupid comment to make or believe.)

Xbox One! Aww, yeah. My ol' Xbone is still chugging along perfectly fine with releases like these.

@Millionski So turns out Wukong is not on Xbox because the devs are not good at optimization. Series S is technically the culprit, if you need an exact "why?" but the devs are new to console development and Wukong itself just is incredibly poorly optimized. I have no idea if Xbox can even help in a situation like that, because it sounds like the devs refuse the idea.

(That last sentence might not be accurate since reading translated comments can easily mistake intent of words, but this is the impression I got from reading their comments. Again, might not be accurate. Translating a statement exactly is a very tricky thing.)

I'm surprised it hasn't been added to MCC, if a direct port is off the table. Wonder why, did the reception to it really kill the momentum? Or is the story not worth it? Haven't played it myself.

We're at the end of an era... Persona 3 Reload Expansion Pass will no longer just be sitting there, menacingly, on the Gamepass Perks page by the end of this month.

They better re-release or remaster or whatever the Dreamcast Ecco the Dolphin game.

Also those games were pure nightmare fuel. I don't know if anyone remembers that since the rest of the game was pretty brutal.

Japanese IP.. hmm. Decades of history makes me think it's a top tier announcement.

Dragon Quest 12?

I want South of Midnight to be good, but I still don't have faith in the combat. It looks incredibly weak from shown footage. Hopefully that will be changed, but Compulsion games have always been sloppy even with best intentions, so we'll have to see.

It's about time. This will make almost every mainline FF game (minus 11) available on Xbox for the first time... ever?
(Also yea 11 was on the 360 but I'm referring to current playable games.)