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Yikes! I'm in the UK and still able to redeem a month of GPU for 12,000 points (despite it supposedly stopping yesterday), so I have purchased some codes from there, and will use the old EA Play conversion trick as and when I feel there's enough I want to play but, given I prefer casual, simulator, and driving games, there's little value in most new releases added to the service to stay subscribed consistently like I have done in recent years

The reveal was really disappointing, and that's coming from someone who first chose an Xbox over a PlayStation when I was many years younger, purely because of the original Horizon game.

What is interesting is that whilst the game is coming to PlayStation, it's not doing so at launch. Wonder how long the delay will be, but is a good strategy in my eyes

@BleedingDreamer Hawaii's giving me strong TDU2 vibes. Shame that Solar Crown is what it is!

Keep it as it is. I like using rechargeable AAs and swapping them out as and when needed. If you prefer to use a battery pack, you have that option as well. It's better for the future of the controllers as well, given you'll always be able to use them wirelessly

@Brigurugi I'm predominantly a racing game guy and yeah, Codies has become awful since being purchased by EA. The F1 games now have virtual currency and have added stupid features that nobody cares about after 5 minutes, all whilst they've removed other features from the game. The career mode on the recently released F1 25 has some new features but nothing that makes you want to play the game. That, and 3 tracks in reverse are the main selling points this year. Yikes.

I mean, this is the same Nintendo that's charging for its tutorial game as well. People will moan but will still pay the prices, so I get why they do it. I really don't think this will impact Xbox players. Most will continue to play via Game Pass for the majority of their games and third party games are reduced within what feels like weeks these days

I'm a Formula 1, have been for just over a decade now, and used to love the new grand every year. The last 5 or so have just felt so repetitive and the lack of proper innovation has been disappointing. We've gone from new bonus and alternate tracks, as well as classic cars, to the F1 Life rubbish they keep pushing, and a story mode which feels so out of place and boring to me. Would be nice to see something to make me want to play the game but, this is unlikely to happen, especially as Codies is now owned by EA (they would've been a great fit for Xbox!) and I'll probably wait until it hits Game Pass about 10 months from now, especially as you should have significant changes to the 2026 game, given the IRL regulations.

@SuntannedDuck2 Was thinking of Driver myself - SanFran was such a unique game and would fit into the Xbox portfolio nicely

This looks good, reminds me a bit of Motor Town (which is obviously based on vehicles more), which I hope will be ported. Speaking of which, FH5 is not getting a physical release on PS5, wonder if that hints at Xbox's release plans going forwards?

I've started playing the original Forza Horizon again for the first time in many years! Seeing the news of older, delisted games, such as FH3, appearing on the store reminded me I've been meaning to play it again for a while, and I've been having a blast with the nostalgia! Well wishes to Fraser as well!

I'm sure it's nothing more than a simple error, but it would be nice to see a remake / remaster of some of the older Horizon titles. FH1 is 15 in 2027, they could rename is Horizon Colorado, and make some simple tweaks to modernise the game with features from newer games. Would sell well, and be nice to see. Would be an obvious slam dunk to do, which is the exact reason I have no hope of it happening

Pretty much agree with everything this article talks about. If Xbox users get the game day and date on Game Pass, and a period of exclusivity, then I'm at ease with the idea of iconic franchises going to PlayStation. What irks me is the lack of clear communication from Xbox instead, we're getting snippets from interviews and leakers. The theory of higher revenues from such decisions leading to more investment in studios and Game Pass is one that makes sense, and will help to boost Xbox further, but we need to start seeing evidence of this over time.

Quite simply, if Xbox fail to provide better value for Xbox users, stop day one releases on game pass, or release day and date on other platforms then that's when I have to think about my future with the Xbox brand

@Coletrain 100%

@Coletrain This is the approach I would like to see, as it's a win-win for consumers. I would hope that, if exclusive games do go multi-plat, that the Xbox release still has a period of exclusivity. If FH6 is announced this summer and released EoY or early '26, I would hope that it takes 2-3 years to come to other platforms

@DeanyBabyy I play primarilly racing games but for those wanting to play jus them, you'd be silly to not have a PC instead. Ultimately, Xbox players will have just as much as PS players with the exception of what, Gran Turismo? In return, they get games, like Forza Horizon, day and date on Game Pass, as opposed to having to pay x amount for every release

@OldGamer999 Jez Corden is reporting that Halo MCC is coming sooner rather than later as well

I felt numb when I saw this news. I knew it would come eventually, and I completely understand why this is a thing but it doesn't sit quite right with me. When rumours of MS porting games started, I predicted that FH5 would be one of the first and was right (despite being told it would never happen by some!). The original FH was the first game I ever played from start to finish and made me fall in love with not just Forza, but Xbox as a whole, and I will, in all likelihood stick with Xbox as long as they provide 1st party games on GP Day 1, but this certainly feels like a small part of the Xbox brand has died with this news. And I know the game is on PC, but this feels different. Hopefully, MS' plans prove to be right and the value for money offered by Xbox will help improve GamePass and console sales, and bring a brighter future.

I get that people are annoyed with the price increase but Game Pass is still great value. Do I like COD? No, but that doesn't mean that I can't appreciate the extra value it provides to the service. Plus, being realistic, we expect more Activision games to come to the service, not just BO6 so the increase for that, along with general inflation, is fair. You can still stack up on the subs, and buy codes at the cheaper price now and use them as and when it makes sense for you as well. I've got just over a year left on my sub and will be doing just that.

@FraserG Thanks for clarifying! Wondered if I was doing something wrong or going mad - both of which wouldn't surprise me!

Am I missing something, or are the prices on the online marketplace not updated? Need for Speed Most Wanted's meant to be 90% off but shows as $20? Do I need to dig out my old 360, or will the price update at some point later today / tomorrow?

I remember seeing gameplay of the original Forza Horizon and falling in love with it. Subsequently played a good bit of FM4 and other games. Seeing Horizon 3, combined with backwards compatibility, and gamepass made it a no brainer for me. I do think Xbox has it's issues currently, but I still don't regret my choice

Was tempted to pick up NFS Unbound for £4, but the reviews, and the fact it's a modern-day EA game means that I've decided not to...

I hate the fact I saw this article. Spent 469 hours on FM23 (via Game Pass) alone. Can't complain about the value of the sub!

@JetmanUK Was just thinking about potential crossovers. Their own version of Mario Kart, Smash Bros? Crash/Spyro crossover? Halo/COD crossover? Regardless, all of these will be in the future but, I'm more excited than ever and looking forward to it! Summer Showcase '24 can't come soon enough!

I played so much Dream House Days years ago. Definitely tempted to pick some of these up. Will probably wait to see how they play on a console first though

@TheSimulator Englishman here - I see Indycar as being a much bigger sport than NASCAR these days - don't know if that's just me or not - especially given the big names involved

@Markatron84 Exactly. I'm a huge Formula 1 fan but I'm not paying for the same game (in essence) year after year. I'll eventually grab a cheap version digitally so that I 'own' it, but will wait for it to drop on GP

@Markatron84 @themightyant I'm not arguing that it's anything but fair, 5 hours is still a lot! I was just stating that it was a perfectly understandable change. I'm still happy that we're getting demos at all - something that I think we should see more of given the price of games these days

Interesting to see that they've cut the trials in half compared to the previous 10 hours you got. I can only imagine it's because people trialled the game, and never actually purchased it, because they had moved on after the trial.

Hyped for Forza, Cities 2, and Flight Sim (which took my breath away once more!). Disappointed the show was only an hour, but the fast pace meant that when a game didn't appeal to me, I wasn't waiting for the next one for too long. Plus, we have the extended showcase for more gameplay.

For those complaining about the lack of non-delayed games for this year, I agree. However, I would argue that both Forza and Starfield are heavy hitters, and it's important to remember that things take time - many of 24s titles would have been pencilled in internally for this year but delayed so that the games could be better, which is what we all want.

The lack of concrete release dates was also a clever move in my opinion - by not announcing dates too soon, there's less disappointed in the long run as games don't get (publicly at least) delayed.

Really enjoyed this showcase, even if I was disappointed not to see more of what others want (such as Gears), and think it was definitely the best so far. Let's all hope that Xbox can build on this strong momentum going forwards

@Suda52 The Forza Monthly show on the 13th is confirmed to be taking a deeper dive into the career mode, although why that wasn't advertised is beyond me

Don't get me wrong, this is definitely a step in the right direction however, I personally just turn my console off at the mains all the time. If I want it on, I'll turn the plug on, make a drink, and by the time I'm back, and turn the console on, it boots up as quickly as it would have done anyway

As someone who has played all of the Horizon games (FH1 was the first game I ever 'beat'), it's nice to see so much being done for the 10th anniversary. With that being said, I was hoping for a remaster / remake of the first game. Imagine that, with all the DLC included and what have you!

@Dr_Luigi You can grab it digitally from the store for £5, possibly less if you 'go to Argentina'.

I will say that there should be some way of getting it for free, even if you only have the physical version

@Dr_Luigi The article states that this is only for those that own the game digitally. There's no word as of yet whether those who own it physically will be able to claim.

This explains why TSW2 is due to leave Game Pass then. Twas a decent game but the controls seemed to have falter after a while. Would be nice to see full keyboard support added

I have a Samsung Smart TV and used to use the likes of YouTube and what have you that way but have since started using my Xbox as I can plug my earphones into my controller thus not annoying any of my housemate with my noise. Only downside is that for some apps, like Prime, the controller turns itself off after 20 minutes and there doesn't appear to be a way to change that

Amazing! Looks like you had a great time! The harsh reality is that you could start saving your points at the launch of a new console and be able to pay for the next generation with just points. I started in January this year and have around £130 in points already. Crazy value!

It's not pro clubs though, is it? The F1 game has taken a monumental step backwards this year (in my opinion!) with EA only caring about how to milk every single game of theirs dry as opposed to making high quality games. The irony is that they posted that tweet about how 'shes a 10 but only plays single-player games' when they can't even get the online elements right

Good to see some kids titles: whilst they won't appeal to the majority of us, it's good to see Xbox offering a greater level of variety. Been debating whether or not to buy Road 96 so that's settled me debate; I'll give it a go and, if I like it, I'll pick it up down the line. Finally, people may mock powerwash simulator but I've been enjoying House Flipper a surprising amount since it joined GP: it's a different change of pace and it's good to have games other than FPS'

This is getting pathetic now. Whilst I'm happy to have Thrillville (as it will mean I can sell my copy), when you look at what PlayStation offers month after month, this is not good enough.

I know the argument is that this is a 'bonus' each month - and I get that - and I also understand that Gamepass exists and the value it offers (which is monumental!) but, when PlayStation offers Crash 4, God of War (admittedly an exclusive), and Fifa in the span of three months, what Xbox offers is awful.

The worst part is the fact that there is no reason as to why, right? Xbox owns a significant number of studios now and could easily offer some back catalogue games from said studio for minimal cost then, they could use the savings from this and work with a close partner (like EA, or Activision) and secure a heavy-hitter game and actually offer something that makes people go wow. I can't remember the last time GWG has made me do that

Fantastic news. Don't care for football at all but I do like the career mode options. Even at £8.99, it wouldn't be worth it for me. Played a fair chunk of FIFA 21 so am looking forward to give this a go

@uptownsoul For sure, and I completely understand the fact that some don't like / know how to do it this way. For me, both subscriptions offer great value if you a) have enough time and b) make use of them. For me, £11 a month wouldn't make sense as whilst I get some use, it's not to that extent. At £2.50 a month, it's the only subscription I pay for

@uptownsoul Very true. I think both offerings appeal to different consumers as well. Having said that, GPU can be had for £2.50 a month at the moment with some VPNing...

@pip_muzz Nice to know I'm not the only one who was concerned about a potential clash!

@abe_hikura I fully see your point and still steer on the side of caution but, as you rightly mention, things are looking good overall

I don't really care for either franchise but I'm glad they're not being shown - if they're not ready, don't bother with a CGI trailer as they'll be forgotten quickly and the hype will quickly be lost.

The fact that Xbox have got their announcements out of the way today, and have enough for the showcase on Sunday is fantastic: so much for Xbox not having much, hey?

To think that around a decade ago, when the Xbox One released, this would have taken up about 3/4 of their main showcase. Now, it's all been announced outside of the showcase AND today's Summer Games Fest so the focus can be on games... Good stuff, Microsoft!

@pip_muzz You've hit the nail on the head there. Personally, I'd like to see Lego return at some point. I feel as if they should have lego-ifed more cars and could have done more with the map. Maybe they'll remake / remaster all of the previous DLC one day now, that would be good!

@Grumblevolcano Potentially but that would be rather underwhelming. I know Playground are also working on the Fable reboot (plus the longer-term effects from the pandemic) but to take this long but be nothing more than a remake of the expansion would be disappointing. With that being said, I never experienced the DLC on FH3 so that'd be nice.