@nomither6 What's crazy is the power consumption issue the DS4 had that still isn't resolved with the DS. The built in battery when new has a similar capacity to a set of good AA rechargeables, yet lasts such a short time, and given you can set the lights to low, their power consumption will be tiny, the touchpad should pull barely anything, it's really the rumble motors or motion actuators and resistive triggers in a DS that should pull more power. Yet the 6 hours I get is with the vibration and triggers turned off. So it seems like the chipset they use, or wireless protocol just pull far more power than Xbox pads have done for the last 20 years, and they don't seem to care about fixing it.
Then again both of them seem to care little for the pads reputations, still using cheap potentiometers that have much higher failure rates than the old ones used on DS3, DS2, even DS1 pads. And hall sensors are dirt cheap so no reason not to use them other than they think people will buy new pads and it makes them more money. Reality is they're massive corpos and they don't care. They'll screw us over however they can to get money.
@nomither6 Of my 4 PS3 pads, two DS3s last about 7 hours which is good, the other two Sixaxis last about an hour lol. The battery life on all of my DS4s is poor, from new being about 6 hours like dual sense, to eventually only lasting 2-3 hours at most. My launch DS lasts about an hour now, a second pad I got a couple years ago still lasts about 5 hours. Plenty of people may have complained but generally people seem glad when something comes with rechargeables. Until of course they go crappy, and then it's screwdriver and unofficial replacements that will probably go bad in less than a year.
I bought the doom controller in dec, didn't come with batteries, no option for a free rechargeable pack when following the instructions, just goes onto filling out a form for repair and sending it in then saying There are no service options available. Contact us, which sends me to a different site. I'll give it a go but I'm not holding out hope given it doesn't say anything
Also MS support had step 6 as "Select or enter your appropriate shipping address, then choose Send it to us for service. Note that you will not need to send in your controller.", and then step 7 is what you have as step 6.
@nomither6 Sony's rechargeable controller lasts about 6 hours max and gets worse and worse over the years. My Xbox pads last about 20 hours on rechargeables AAs, and when they're low its a quick swap out instead of needing a cable attached to charge it. People don't hate rechargeable batteries, they hate terrible battery life.
Funny you think Xbox gives you choices instead of having to use it their way, how are those rip off SSD expansion cards working out for people? I paid less for a 2TB NVMe for my PS5 than it cost for a 1TB Xbox Series SSD lol. Being able to shop around and get the best priced drive instead of the specific one they let work with it was a much better experience.
Man, I paid £514 for the Halo limited edition Series X in 2022. I paid £450 for the PS5 at launch. I thought by this point we would have £200 consoles, it's all crazy. PS6 is gonna be £900 lol
@StonyKL Oh that's weird with control, it played ok on my 10GB 3080 which is a little bit faster than a 5060. Did you turn ray tracing off, or down at least? That tanked my framerate when I turned it up, but keeping it on low was ok, I ended up using dlss on it too as it was making my fans roar.
@Banjo- You think every dev is gonna optimise their games to run perfectly on Helix? Look at how many games we get today on console with rough framerates, bad pacing, and sod all we can do about it. A more meaty PC is always gonna let you run stuff better and customise settings to get it running smoother, but there's also the big cost for something decent. Although I'm betting Helix is gonna be crazy expensive for a console, probably double what Series X launched at.
@tho_mi Except for all the games that run crap on consoles, either jittery framerates cause they can't stay at 60, having to put up with 30fps modes for stability, or the 60fps modes upscaling from a low res and the game looking blurry. It's great for games than run well and look good, but later into the generations we're getting more and more demanding stuff. At least on PC you can tweak settings to get better perf.
@StonyKL A 5060 Ti is far weaker than a 4070 Ti, it's weaker than a 4070 too. Its RT perf is also weaker. So no, not a chance. But you could run extreme but set dlss to performance and probably get a solid 60 in 4k output, since that would be upscaling from 1080p. Might even be able to use a bit of RT. Is your card the 16GB version though? If it's the 8GB version it might run out of VRAM while running RT as well. Techpowerup have a GPU database that shows a relative performance of all cards to give you a clue of what yours is capable of.
@Romans12 Forza isn't day one on PS5. Also Xbox as a console platform is practically dead, them being day one with PC is probably the only thing that's kept Xbox above water.
Massive yawn. This gen has been rather poor, at least for PS5 and Xbox Series. Other than a very few standout titles I've just been spending more of my time playing Switch and PC games. And really the only thing Xbox is doing for me considering I game on PC, is playing older stuff I've got cheap, or going back to old back compat stuff.
Surprised how many people are whining about this in the comments, defending the companies choice to include a blank disc with just an activation key on it.
What's the point in a physical edition that doesn't include the game? Oh no the game is big... So put it on 2 discs? Put it on 3? Blu ray discs are dirt cheap, no reason why not to put the complete game on there. That's the entire point of physical, not to put the disc in and have it then download the 120GB game or how ever big it is.
And for the very few living out in rural towns with their 5mb internet, I bet they'd much prefer it to actually be on the disc instead of a painfully long download.
Only reason I bought the Series X is it was the limited edition Halo Infinite one that came with the game and looked nice, and I wanted better back compat for old Xbox 360 and Xbox games compared to my One X. The only Series X games I have on it are ones that were dirt cheap in sales. For everything else it has I'd rather play the PC version. So no, absolutely not. And their handheld plans sound completely unappealing to me too.
I'm liking it, perf isn't as good as expected considering I'm using DLSS and it doesn't look at detailed as something like Horizon Forbidden West. In caves and stuff it's fine, but in overworld it drops under 60 some times. Also not too fond of how various lush forests look a bit brown. There's reshade mods that help, but they then ruin the look in caves and buildings n stuff, and I don't wanna keep turning it on and off, so I've kept the contrast settings on that make it look better but not the colour altering ones.
Still missing console to console remote play. Since 2020 I've been able to stream my PS5 in my bedroom to my PS4 in the living room. Yet nearly 4 and a half years later I can't stream my Series X in my bedroom to my Xbox One X in the living room. Sucks.
Gonna be funny when this thing launches and fails to get anywhere near Steam Decks sales. And Steam Deck sales are tiny compared to Switch. Xbox has felt like an aimless brand for over a decade now.
@Residentsteven Funny, 5 was rushed for X-One launch and is probably the worst one. Well, except maybe this, but at least they're trying to fix this one.
@RiverGenie I'm not saying it's a bad thing, just that it's taken them this long and it only looks ok. Random people managed to do this years ago on the pc version and have it look better. I guess I just expected more.
@RiverGenie You think this update is coming to all versions of minecraft? Well I'm Sure PS Vita, PS3, Xbox 360, Wii U and more owners will be very excited.
I rarely use my Series X. I only really got it for better BC of old games. Even then I think it's about 80% full. Ain't no way I'm buying their abhorrently overpriced external drives.
Given 90% of what's installed isn't Series enhanced, I could just connect an old spare SSD in a USB enclosure I suppose.
@GeorgeKal There's valid excuses for the Series S problems, namely 7.5GB of usable RAM for games. It's the reason BG3 lost its split screen. Seems to be the reason for no Black Myth too. Switch 2 with 12GB, which might have 10GB available to games, is already at an advantage there. The other being it's probably only PS4 level in GPU power, so games will have to be scaled down a lot more, thus needing even less RAM.
I'd enjoy it a lot more in 60fps, after playing the old as hell Mario Kart 8, going to this is... disappointing. Pity there was no PC version, or at least a current gen patch to bump the framecap to 60.
@BIG3 Some are, and are decent fun playing with a friend or two. Others are a bit crap, and they removed the forsaken campaign a few years ago, which prompted me to never buy anything full priced from them ever again anyway. I think buying the forsaken pack now just unlocks some weapons from it instead.
Anyway you're best looking at reviews for the dlc to decide. After all being cheap doesn't mean it's worth it if something is bad.
I kinda feel like playing Anthem again. The story was a mess but the gameplay was quite fun. And it has an fps boost mode so you can play in 60. On the other hand that mode is only in 900p. Wonder how cheap I can get it on steam instead.
Horizon 2 had the best map easy. Pity it never came to PC so it's stuck in 1080p30. At least 3 came to PC, has a good map, and runs at 4k60 on a potato.
Standby. I don't wanna turn it on for it to say a game needs a 40GB update before I can play. Unfortunately it often doesn't update games in standby despite being set to.
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Re: Xbox Offers Free Rechargeable Batteries To Fans Affected By Recent Controller Shipping Issue
@nomither6 What's crazy is the power consumption issue the DS4 had that still isn't resolved with the DS. The built in battery when new has a similar capacity to a set of good AA rechargeables, yet lasts such a short time, and given you can set the lights to low, their power consumption will be tiny, the touchpad should pull barely anything, it's really the rumble motors or motion actuators and resistive triggers in a DS that should pull more power. Yet the 6 hours I get is with the vibration and triggers turned off. So it seems like the chipset they use, or wireless protocol just pull far more power than Xbox pads have done for the last 20 years, and they don't seem to care about fixing it.
Then again both of them seem to care little for the pads reputations, still using cheap potentiometers that have much higher failure rates than the old ones used on DS3, DS2, even DS1 pads. And hall sensors are dirt cheap so no reason not to use them other than they think people will buy new pads and it makes them more money. Reality is they're massive corpos and they don't care. They'll screw us over however they can to get money.
Re: Xbox Offers Free Rechargeable Batteries To Fans Affected By Recent Controller Shipping Issue
@nomither6 Of my 4 PS3 pads, two DS3s last about 7 hours which is good, the other two Sixaxis last about an hour lol. The battery life on all of my DS4s is poor, from new being about 6 hours like dual sense, to eventually only lasting 2-3 hours at most. My launch DS lasts about an hour now, a second pad I got a couple years ago still lasts about 5 hours. Plenty of people may have complained but generally people seem glad when something comes with rechargeables. Until of course they go crappy, and then it's screwdriver and unofficial replacements that will probably go bad in less than a year.
Re: Xbox Offers Free Rechargeable Batteries To Fans Affected By Recent Controller Shipping Issue
I bought the doom controller in dec, didn't come with batteries, no option for a free rechargeable pack when following the instructions, just goes onto filling out a form for repair and sending it in then saying There are no service options available. Contact us, which sends me to a different site. I'll give it a go but I'm not holding out hope given it doesn't say anything
Also MS support had step 6 as "Select or enter your appropriate shipping address, then choose Send it to us for service. Note that you will not need to send in your controller.", and then step 7 is what you have as step 6.
Re: Xbox Offers Free Rechargeable Batteries To Fans Affected By Recent Controller Shipping Issue
@nomither6 Sony's rechargeable controller lasts about 6 hours max and gets worse and worse over the years. My Xbox pads last about 20 hours on rechargeables AAs, and when they're low its a quick swap out instead of needing a cable attached to charge it. People don't hate rechargeable batteries, they hate terrible battery life.
Funny you think Xbox gives you choices instead of having to use it their way, how are those rip off SSD expansion cards working out for people? I paid less for a 2TB NVMe for my PS5 than it cost for a 1TB Xbox Series SSD lol. Being able to shop around and get the best priced drive instead of the specific one they let work with it was a much better experience.
Re: Sony Announces Major PS5 Price Hikes, Here's How They Compare To Xbox Series X|S
Man, I paid £514 for the Halo limited edition Series X in 2022. I paid £450 for the PS5 at launch. I thought by this point we would have £200 consoles, it's all crazy. PS6 is gonna be £900 lol
Re: Forza Horizon 6 PC Specs Revealed, Ray Tracing & ROG Xbox Ally Compatibility Confirmed
@StonyKL Oh that's weird with control, it played ok on my 10GB 3080 which is a little bit faster than a 5060. Did you turn ray tracing off, or down at least? That tanked my framerate when I turned it up, but keeping it on low was ok, I ended up using dlss on it too as it was making my fans roar.
Re: Forza Horizon 6 PC Specs Revealed, Ray Tracing & ROG Xbox Ally Compatibility Confirmed
@Banjo- You think every dev is gonna optimise their games to run perfectly on Helix? Look at how many games we get today on console with rough framerates, bad pacing, and sod all we can do about it. A more meaty PC is always gonna let you run stuff better and customise settings to get it running smoother, but there's also the big cost for something decent. Although I'm betting Helix is gonna be crazy expensive for a console, probably double what Series X launched at.
Re: Forza Horizon 6 PC Specs Revealed, Ray Tracing & ROG Xbox Ally Compatibility Confirmed
@tho_mi Except for all the games that run crap on consoles, either jittery framerates cause they can't stay at 60, having to put up with 30fps modes for stability, or the 60fps modes upscaling from a low res and the game looking blurry. It's great for games than run well and look good, but later into the generations we're getting more and more demanding stuff. At least on PC you can tweak settings to get better perf.
Re: Forza Horizon 6 PC Specs Revealed, Ray Tracing & ROG Xbox Ally Compatibility Confirmed
@StonyKL A 5060 Ti is far weaker than a 4070 Ti, it's weaker than a 4070 too. Its RT perf is also weaker. So no, not a chance. But you could run extreme but set dlss to performance and probably get a solid 60 in 4k output, since that would be upscaling from 1080p. Might even be able to use a bit of RT. Is your card the 16GB version though? If it's the 8GB version it might run out of VRAM while running RT as well. Techpowerup have a GPU database that shows a relative performance of all cards to give you a clue of what yours is capable of.
Re: Fable Showcases Stunning Gameplay Deep Dive, Arrives On Xbox, PC & PS5 Later This Year
@Romans12 Forza isn't day one on PS5. Also Xbox as a console platform is practically dead, them being day one with PC is probably the only thing that's kept Xbox above water.
Re: Fable Showcases Stunning Gameplay Deep Dive, Arrives On Xbox, PC & PS5 Later This Year
Looks very pretty. 30fps for sure on Series X and S. I'll play this one on PC.
Re: Here's What The Red Dead Redemption Upgrade Looks Like On Xbox Series X|S
Pity I can't use my 360 disc to get this.
Re: Xbox Series X & Series S Receive Small UK Discounts To Kick Off Black Friday 2025
It's like they want it to die...
Re: Xbox Details All Of The New Content Packed Into Its Halo: Campaign Evolved Remake
This better not screw with the artistic intention like Anniversary did.
Re: If You're Dying To See Forza In Japan, Xbox's Latest Motorsport Track Is Well Worth A Try
I loved this track in FM1. Point to point tracks have always been such a missed opportunity too.
Re: Microsoft Announces New Price Increases For Xbox Series X|S In The US
It's like they want sales to be even more dismal than they already are.
Re: Perfect Dark Actor Calls On Fans To 'Speak Up' And Help The Game Survive
That's a no from me chief. I miss the N64 Rareware days.
Re: PS6 To Provide 'New & Enhanced' Experience As Sony & Microsoft Plan For Next-Gen
Massive yawn. This gen has been rather poor, at least for PS5 and Xbox Series. Other than a very few standout titles I've just been spending more of my time playing Switch and PC games. And really the only thing Xbox is doing for me considering I game on PC, is playing older stuff I've got cheap, or going back to old back compat stuff.
Re: The Witcher 3 Special Edition Xbox Controllers Now Available To Buy
Looks nice. Not £70 nice though, especially when normal ones can be had for £35/40.
Re: Xbox Is Adding Three New Ways To Personalise Your Console's Home Screen
Get rid of ads on the home screen, how about that you greedy *****.
Re: Some Fantastic Games Are Discounted By 90-95% On Xbox This Weekend
@BAMozzy Might as well get the complete edition for another £4.50 then if Blood and Wine is really that good.
Re: 'Huge' Number Of People Cancelling DOOM Pre-Orders Over 'Botched Physical Release'
Surprised how many people are whining about this in the comments, defending the companies choice to include a blank disc with just an activation key on it.
What's the point in a physical edition that doesn't include the game? Oh no the game is big... So put it on 2 discs? Put it on 3? Blu ray discs are dirt cheap, no reason why not to put the complete game on there. That's the entire point of physical, not to put the disc in and have it then download the 120GB game or how ever big it is.
And for the very few living out in rural towns with their 5mb internet, I bet they'd much prefer it to actually be on the disc instead of a painfully long download.
Re: Opinion: Nothing Will Come Close To GTA 6 As An Xbox Series X|S Showpiece
Guaranteed 30fps. Even on the PS5 Pro it will be 30, just with a higher dynamic res. The GPU boost aint gonna fix the mid end 2019 CPU.
Will have to wait for PC release to play it in 60. And watch that end up taking an extra year again.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Still Buy An Xbox At Microsoft's 2025 Prices?
Only reason I bought the Series X is it was the limited edition Halo Infinite one that came with the game and looked nice, and I wanted better back compat for old Xbox 360 and Xbox games compared to my One X. The only Series X games I have on it are ones that were dirt cheap in sales. For everything else it has I'd rather play the PC version. So no, absolutely not. And their handheld plans sound completely unappealing to me too.
Re: Xbox Is Raising The Price Of Consoles, Games And Accessories
We're losing against PS5 laughably. What can we do to make things better?
Price increase?
Why Bob, that's a great idea!
Re: Poll: What Are Your First Impressions Of Oblivion Remastered?
I'm liking it, perf isn't as good as expected considering I'm using DLSS and it doesn't look at detailed as something like Horizon Forbidden West. In caves and stuff it's fine, but in overworld it drops under 60 some times. Also not too fond of how various lush forests look a bit brown. There's reshade mods that help, but they then ruin the look in caves and buildings n stuff, and I don't wanna keep turning it on and off, so I've kept the contrast settings on that make it look better but not the colour altering ones.
Re: Xbox Adds Multiple Highly-Requested Features In April 2025 Update
Still missing console to console remote play. Since 2020 I've been able to stream my PS5 in my bedroom to my PS4 in the living room. Yet nearly 4 and a half years later I can't stream my Series X in my bedroom to my Xbox One X in the living room. Sucks.
Re: Phil Spencer 'Very Excited' About Xbox Handheld Plans For 2025
Gonna be funny when this thing launches and fails to get anywhere near Steam Decks sales. And Steam Deck sales are tiny compared to Switch. Xbox has felt like an aimless brand for over a decade now.
Re: Xbox Celebrates 20 Years Of Forza Motorsport With Huge FM4-Flavoured Update
@Residentsteven You mean you didn't play the Xbox One's killer app? Peggle 2!
Re: Xbox Celebrates 20 Years Of Forza Motorsport With Huge FM4-Flavoured Update
@Residentsteven Funny, 5 was rushed for X-One launch and is probably the worst one. Well, except maybe this, but at least they're trying to fix this one.
Re: Xbox Celebrates 20 Years Of Forza Motorsport With Huge FM4-Flavoured Update
@GuyinPA75 Yes, it was awesome. I loved point to point races too, more interesting than doing laps of a track.
Re: Xbox Celebrates 20 Years Of Forza Motorsport With Huge FM4-Flavoured Update
FM4 track? It was in the original game, hence 20 years. FM4 didn't come out 20 years ago did it?
Re: Opinion: It's Been A Quiet March, But Next Month Looks Awesome For Xbox Game Pass
It's been a quiet year.
Re: Minecraft Set For Graphics Upgrade That Will 'Transform' Bedrock Edition On Xbox & Beyond
@RiverGenie I'm not saying it's a bad thing, just that it's taken them this long and it only looks ok. Random people managed to do this years ago on the pc version and have it look better. I guess I just expected more.
Re: Minecraft Set For Graphics Upgrade That Will 'Transform' Bedrock Edition On Xbox & Beyond
@RiverGenie You think this update is coming to all versions of minecraft? Well I'm Sure PS Vita, PS3, Xbox 360, Wii U and more owners will be very excited.
Nice edit lol.
Re: Minecraft Set For Graphics Upgrade That Will 'Transform' Bedrock Edition On Xbox & Beyond
Looks no where near as good as fabric loader mods though. Meh.
Re: Xbox Could 'Rival 3D Mario' With A New Banjo-Kazooie Game, Says Ori Developer
If the Rare staff of 1998 made it, sure. Today's staff? Hell no.
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Series X|S Owners, How's Your Storage Looking In 2025?
I rarely use my Series X. I only really got it for better BC of old games. Even then I think it's about 80% full. Ain't no way I'm buying their abhorrently overpriced external drives.
Given 90% of what's installed isn't Series enhanced, I could just connect an old spare SSD in a USB enclosure I suppose.
Re: Lots Of Games Are Discounted By 90% On Xbox This Weekend (January 18-19)
Should probably mention you need a gamepass sub to get the discounts. Gear.Club is still 24.99 for me.
Re: Xbox Fan Shares 'Genius' Method For Putting Console In Idle Mode
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Re: Rumour: Xbox Series S Could Have Big Impact On The Nintendo Switch 2
@GeorgeKal There's valid excuses for the Series S problems, namely 7.5GB of usable RAM for games. It's the reason BG3 lost its split screen. Seems to be the reason for no Black Myth too. Switch 2 with 12GB, which might have 10GB available to games, is already at an advantage there. The other being it's probably only PS4 level in GPU power, so games will have to be scaled down a lot more, thus needing even less RAM.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled On Xbox Game Pass?
I'd enjoy it a lot more in 60fps, after playing the old as hell Mario Kart 8, going to this is... disappointing. Pity there was no PC version, or at least a current gen patch to bump the framecap to 60.
Re: Battlefield 1 Gets Reduced By 100% On Xbox, And More Games Could Follow Very Soon
Gone back to £1.99 now.
Re: Lots Of Games Are Reduced By 90-95% In The Xbox Countdown Sale 2024
@BIG3 Some are, and are decent fun playing with a friend or two. Others are a bit crap, and they removed the forsaken campaign a few years ago, which prompted me to never buy anything full priced from them ever again anyway. I think buying the forsaken pack now just unlocks some weapons from it instead.
Anyway you're best looking at reviews for the dlc to decide. After all being cheap doesn't mean it's worth it if something is bad.
Re: Lots Of Games Are Reduced By 90-95% In The Xbox Countdown Sale 2024
I kinda feel like playing Anthem again. The story was a mess but the gameplay was quite fun. And it has an fps boost mode so you can play in 60. On the other hand that mode is only in 900p. Wonder how cheap I can get it on steam instead.
Re: Soapbox: Paying Tribute To The Best Map In Forza Horizon History
Horizon 2 had the best map easy. Pity it never came to PC so it's stuck in 1080p30. At least 3 came to PC, has a good map, and runs at 4k60 on a potato.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.2 Brings A Bunch Of 'Community-Requested' Features To Xbox
To the game, not "to xbox"
Your title implies this update was only released for the xbox versions of the game.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Enjoying Indiana Jones And The Great Circle So Far?
@munstahunta 1800p, not 1080p.
Re: 34% Of Xbox Owners Still Don't Use The 'Energy Saving' Option In 2024
Standby. I don't wanna turn it on for it to say a game needs a 40GB update before I can play. Unfortunately it often doesn't update games in standby despite being set to.
Re: Random: Xbox Employee Causes A Stir With Lighthearted PS5 Pro Joke On Twitter
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