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@Weebleman You don't understand, the contract was already signed for the game to be multiplatform, it's a Disney license, they have their requirements, Xbox doesn't really have a say in it. Moreover, Indiana Jones has never been exclusive before, unlike SOT or FH5, so it's definitely a bad example.

@Weebleman Indiana Jones is not a good example, it's a Disney license that was already planned to be multiplatform before the acquisition, as confirmed by the FTC. Xbox insisted that the game be temporarily exclusive. Sea of Thieves is more comparable because it's also a GAAS, like FH5, and it was released 4 or 5 years later, after reaching its full potential.

forza horion 6 is coming, it's a sign ! and will not be right away on playstation. Those who think that, we know very well who they are lol.

@Isolte I base myself on reality, not speculations. Sea of Thieves, another service game, was also released 4-5 years later on PS! Xbox will prioritize Xbox players, that's what they do and that's what they've always done. So facts against speculations, we'll see who is right, but for now, I'm right until proven otherwise (if the opposite happens one day).

Forza Horizon 5 was released in 2021, 4 years later on playstation. Do you think a player is willing to wait 4 years to play a game?

What is the purpose of an exclusive game? To attract players to its ecosystem (gamepass or consoles or both, ....)! For it to work, this exclusivity period must be frustrating enough to push a player to go to your ecosystem. I think that from 1 to 2 years, it's sufficiently frustrating to push a player who wants to play this game to go to your ecosystem.

So, a long enough temporary exclusivity has the same positive effect (or almost) as a permanent exclusivity.

But does a permanent exclusivity exist? Who can today, on this industry situation, say that an exclusivity will be permanent? Even PlayStation can't, especially given the direction they are taking.

It's fine that Forza Horizon 5 comes out on PlayStation. The game has reached its potential and has done its job of attracting players to Xbox.

I think we won't have to wait long to hear about the release of Forza Horizon 6. And that is very smart:
- The new revenues from Forza Horizon 5 will help amortize the development costs of Forza Horizon 6.
- It will help introduce the franchise to PlayStation players and make them want to play the sequel, knowing that FH6 won't be released on other platforms right away. It would create frustration and push players towards the Xbox ecosystem (Game Pass on PC and/or Xbox consoles).

So it's a very good move !

1.Yes There will be more Xbox games on Nintendo and PlayStation
2.No. It won't be all Xbox games
3.Many games will launch on Xbox first, and then MS will decide if they port them to other consoles OR NOT
4.the biggest exclusive is still the gamepass

It's just the result of the ABK acquisition, nothing more! Of course, they made the right decision to keep Call of Duty multiplatform, it would have been a huge mistake not to do so!

@Isolte Sorry to say this, but you don't seem to know that Xbox runs on a customized version of Windows, and the next OS for Xbox consoles will be much closer to Windows. In fact, Microsoft is working on an OS and an interface that will be identical whether you are on a Windows PC, Xbox, mobile, TV, etc...

So, I really don't see what technically prevents Xbox from integrating Steam. Moreover, in the interview, Phil Spencer did not deny the rumors about this when Destin asked him about the integration of Steam. He said they were in discussions and hinted, without confirming, that it was possible.

I also think that this is why Phil communicates so much about Xbox games on PS, to better ease the acceptance of Steam games on Xbox (and thus PS games). This communication is not trivial.

@themightyant You said it all, you speak in the past tense, but that's no longer the case, the acquired studios are running at full capacity and it shows!

Thanks for the link ! His response is quite encouraging, I would say, and between the lines, we can indeed understand that seeing Steam on Xbox is well on its way.

@HonestHick very interesting point ! At what point in the video do they talk about Steam?

@ButterySmooth30FPS: ok thanks, I corrected it.

@themightyant I confirm, it sounds weird but true, Xbox exclusives: south of midnight, stalker 2 , contraband, avowed, Fable, gears, perfect dark, state of decay 3, replaced, everwirl, OD Clockwork Revolution, 33 immortals, ARK 2, project mara, .... And I forget many others. We're still waiting for the rumors that have been around for a year about Forza Horizon 5, Halo, Starfield, etc., supposedly coming to all platforms. Lots of rumors for not much in the end!

Some will surely be temporarily exclusive, but even so, it blows up the PS lineup which is almost empty.

@themightyant "PlayStation is more a platform making money from other people's games on their console."

"Yeah! It's right: PlayStation is basically a box for third-party games. The problem with that is it works when this box has exclusive games from third-party publishers. The thing is, it's not looking good on that front, as fewer and fewer third-party publishers want to make exclusive games for a single platform for obvious profitability reasons. It's not a first-party game released once a year that will change anything, especially if it also comes out on PC.

Fewer exclusive games = fewer game sales = forced to turn to multiplatform for profitability. They have already started with PC and Switch. Who would have imagined a few years ago that Sony would release games on PC and Switch? They did it, and they will do it later on Xbox, it's just a matter of time. (And maybe even despite themselves if the next Xbox console integrates Steam.)

In the end, PlayStation will have fewer and fewer exclusive games, even fewer than Xbox, and that's already the case! Xbox makes games, it has Game Pass, Play Anywhere, true backward compatibility. So on paper, Xbox has many more advantages for the player. What Xbox lacks is just marketing, nothing else!

For now ! Surely later

PlayStation has canceled more games than it has created in this generation, it's still crazy!

@Millionski It was just to show that even without ABK, Xbox makes 2X more profit margins than PlayStation. But you're right, with ABK it's 3X more!

It's funny because these profit margin ratios are identical to the number of games produced! Xbox makes 3 times more games than PlayStation. So one is correlated with the other, it's logical!

Personally, I prefer to be part of the team that creates games, and be sure to be able to play them, play them first, play them thanks to Game Pass, be able to play a game on PC, console, or cloud thanks to Play Anywhere, etc...

@themightyant operating income = It's the revenue generated by the company's main activities, before deducting costs and expenses.

I'm talking about profit margin !!

Here the right numbers: Sony profit margin running 5% and XBOX (without ABK) 12% EA 14%, and ABK 17%? That is more like a Supermarket (4%) than a gaming company. Just a few yesrs ago Sony ran 9%.

@themightyant you're wrong ,For several years, Sony's profits have been steadily declining. You need to smooth it out over the year; looking at just the last quarter doesn't mean anything. It's the annual figures that matter. Sony's profits are well below the market average, that's a fact!

And we should also count the cost of canceled games and the wasted time, I assure you that things are not going well for them.

@deadmaker You already see it without realizing it, just look at the closer release dates of games on PC, and the release of day one games on PC, it's just the beginning.

@deadmaker the question is not: are they willing to? they are force to ! they have no choice ! Production costs are such that they are forced to go multiplatform. Why do you think they want to move towards service games after canceling a bunch of games? Why do you think they are only making remakes this generation? They are looking for quick profit; the situation is very tense for them financially. The next step is day one on PC; they have to if they want to support their studios.

Xbox strategy:
1. Yes There will be more Xbox games on Nintendo and PlayStation
2. No. It won't be all Xbox games
3. Many games will launch on Xbox first, and then MS will decide if they port them to other consoles OR NOT

I think PlayStation will eventually follow the same strategy, for the simple reason that their current strategy is not profitable; they only make a 5% margin while Xbox makes 12%. Production costs have skyrocketed, and they will release everything on PC. The disadvantage for them is that they have very few first-party games compared to Xbox. Their exclusive games mainly come from third-party publishers, and they will have fewer exclusives because fewer and fewer third-party publishers want to make exclusives.

@Medic_alert I am not speculating at all. To a simple question, he simply answered No! Why didn't he say yes, we are going to release all our future games on PlayStation? If that were the case, he would have said it, but no, he said the opposite!

@McL92 To the question 'Are all Xbox games going to PlayStation?' he answered no, and then he elaborated by giving examples:

• All the games already delivered will not go to other platforms.
• And for future games, he says 'the things will look at how they do.' This example is quite vague, but basically, they will see on a case-by-case basis.

But the overall answer to this very simple question is no! Whether it's old games or future games!

The problem is that this kind of communication is addressed both to players but especially to other publishers, investors, etc. Xbox needs to send this message of openness, which is why there is always this apparent double discourse. But what he says here is clear, No! It only confirms what he has always said: 'case by case.' After that, if some people don't want to understand it and continue to believe what they want to believe, too bad for you, but if you want to play Xbox games first and be sure to play them, you better have a PC or an Xbox console, that's all!

@Medic_alert What I understand is that you decide to believe what you want to believe, and what doesn't fit your narrative, you decide not to believe. What I see, in any case, is that the 2025 lineup is full of exclusive games and that Xbox has never had so many exclusive games, and those are facts! The rest is just speculation on your part. I don't understand what you don't understand when Phil Spencer says NO to a very simple question from Destin, which is 'Are all Xbox games going to PlayStation?' He answers NO! That's it, why are you making assumptions?

@Medic_alert He said the opposite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KK8xil5Uy0&t=606s

1. Yes There will be more Xbox games on Nintendo and PlayStation
2. No. It won't be all Xbox games
3. Many games will launch on Xbox first, and then MS will decide if they port them to other consoles OR NOT

@Ilyn
1. Yes There will be more Xbox games on Nintendo and PlayStation
2. No. It won't be all Xbox games
3. Many games will launch on Xbox first, and then MS will decide if they port them to other consoles OR NOT
4. The biggest exclusive remains gamepass, of course !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KK8xil5Uy0&t=606s

I watched the entire interview and what he said is very clear. What you say about the path to becoming a third-party publisher is pure speculation on your part; he says the exact opposite. They are even going to release new consoles in the future, and here we have confirmation that they will continue to make exclusive games. Making more multiplatform games simply means 'making more multiplatform games,' that's all. One does not exclude the other!"

In this interview, Phil Spencer guarantees: not all Xbox games will be released on other platforms: https://x.com/Xcension/status/1883944660298784816

In that interview, Phil Spencer guarantees: not all Xbox games will be released on other platforms: https://x.com/Xcension/status/1883944660298784816

In interview with Destin, Phil Spencer guarantees: not all Xbox games will be released on other platforms: https://x.com/Xcension/status/1883944660298784816

In Destin interview, Phil Spencer guarantees: not all Xbox games will be released on other platforms: https://x.com/Xcension/status/1883944660298784816

In this interview, Phil Spencer guarantees: not all Xbox games will be released on other platforms: https://x.com/Xcension/status/1883944660298784816

In this interview, Phil Spencer guarantees: not all Xbox games will be released on other platforms: https://x.com/Xcension/status/1883944660298784816

@McL92 "We're getting used to false rumors. For a year now, we've heard rumors about Forza Horizon 5, Starfield, Halo, etc., on PS. And what happened in the end? Nothing! Even if some of them arrive on other platforms, it will be after a long period, which doesn't change anything in the end and doesn't change the notion of exclusivity.

A 2-year exclusivity has the same effect as a permanent exclusivity. But does 'permanent exclusivity' even exist? I don't think so, neither for Xbox nor for anyone else.

@McL92 But let's stop dreaming, you'll never see a Halo game on PlayStation on day one. If it happens, it will be older titles and with a significant delay. Making more multiplatform games doesn't mean sending everything day one to all platforms. The best place to play Xbox games will always be on Xbox.

@oopsiezz With the increase in game prices, I really don't think you're right. On the contrary, I believe it has more impact and will have even more impact in the future, especially with the decrease in exclusive games. PlayStation has fewer and fewer exclusive games, and fewer third-party developers want to make exclusive games. It doesn't make sense given the current situation of the video game industry, with ever-increasing production costs (and therefore the cost of games increasing).

In fact, Xbox factually has more exclusive games than PS. Just look at the 2025 lineup and even the 2024 lineup. But they don't communicate about it.

The key is marketing, nothing else. Xbox has all the cards in hand, they need to communicate about their games, their Game Pass, their Play Anywhere, their console, etc

In fact, it's not the exclusive games that sell, it's the perception of a brand thanks to the marketing done! PlayStation has spent millions on marketing, casual gamers who know nothing about video games buy a PS5 because in their minds a console is necessarily a PS, that's all, it doesn't go further than that. Today, Xbox factually has more exclusive games than PS, but that's not the message conveyed by most media, and it's also due to a lack of communication from Xbox.

What is missing is more marketing; nothing else. Xbox has the essentials, it makes quality and quantity games, it has the best subscription service, which is Game Pass, undoubtedly its best exclusivity, it has Play Anywhere, it has the best backward compatibility, so many exclusive parameters to the Xbox ecosystem. All that's left is to let the general public know!

The strategy of Xbox, which consists of making as many multiplatform games as exclusive games, is the right one. Just look at Xbox's profit margin of 12% compared to only 5% for PlayStation. Besides, PlayStation, as usual, is taking the same path as Xbox.

The difference is that PlayStation doesn't have the same game production capacity as Xbox, so the future of Xbox is bright and it already is. It already makes more revenue than PS and has more MAUs. Console sales mean absolutely nothing if no one plays on them, or if it's just to play one game a year.

Let them keep Gears E-Day for the next Xbox console, it will be the best system seller.

What some people don't understand is that supporting the Switch 2 doesn't mean sending all exclusive games to the Switch 2! There are several historically multiplatform games that are not available on Switch, and this is an opportunity to do so with this more powerful version. At the same time, Xbox has committed to bringing Black Ops 6, for example, to Switch. It doesn't mean anything else.

@Fiendish-Beaver The next Xbox will reportedly integrate other stores, including Steam. Xbox is working on a redesign of their gaming OS to unify the experience across PC, Xbox console, portable consoles, and the cloud, with a single interface. This OS would combine the best of Windows and the best of Xbox. All of this is still in the rumor phase, but it is corroborated by several insiders.

@Millionski xbox has already more exclusives than playstation, don't belive every rumors: Starfield, Flight Simulator, Valheim, Forza Horizon 5, Forza Motorsport, Halo Infinite, Dungeons of Hinterberg (I love it), Hellblade 2, Indiana Jones (timed exclusive), Stalker 2, Palworld (timed exclusive), and coming in 2025 and later: Avowed, South of Midnight, Fable, Gears E-Day, Perfect Dark, Replaced, Contraband, State of Decay 3, OD, Clockwork Revolution, Ark 2, 33 Immortals, Project MARA, Project Maverick, Citizen Sleeper 2, Everwild, and more. Who said Xbox no longer has exclusive games? It's quite the opposite.

With all their studios, they can afford to have both multiplatform and exclusive games, and some timed exclusive games. At this rate, PlayStation has more chances of becoming fully multiplatform before Xbox, considering the production of Xbox first-party games vs. PlayStation first-party games.

All console sales are generally down, and a bit more for Xbox, whose games are available on Xbox consoles, PC, almost all in the cloud, not to mention a few multiplatform games. So it's not so bad in the end, compared to others whose games are playable almost exclusively on their console. We are comparing what is not comparable. Even dear Jez and Phil Spencer have confirmed that the Xbox console player base is stable despite the hardware decline, which shows a good engagement rate, even higher than other manufacturers.

Of course, there is no threat; it's just in the minds of certain 'insiders' like Jez Corden, who has an Oedipus complex. At this rate, Xbox will have even more exclusive games than PlayStation, given the production of first-party games compared to the meager production of PlayStation games. Added to this are third-party publishers who are stopping exclusives for PlayStation, like Square Enix and Capcom. At this rate, PlayStation will be fully multiplatform well before Xbox.

Moreover, with the integration of other stores like steam, Xbox Play Anywhere, controller evolutions, Quick Resume, and other upcoming features, Xbox remains definitively the best platform to have your games.

A bit of nostalgia never hurts, but for now, it's not too bad either in terms of exclusive games on the Xbox Series X: Starfield, Flight Simulator, Valheim, Forza Horizon 5, Forza Motorsport, Halo Infinite, Dungeons of Hinterberg (I love it), Hellblade 2, Indiana Jones (timed exclusive), Stalker 2, Palworld (timed exclusive), and coming in 2025 and later: Avowed, South of Midnight, Fable, Gears E-Day, Perfect Dark, Replaced, Contraband, State of Decay 3, OD, Clockwork Revolution, Ark 2, 33 Immortals, Project MARA, Project Maverick, Citizen Sleeper 2, Everwild, and more. Who said Xbox no longer has exclusive games? It's quite the opposite. With all their studios, they can afford to have both multiplatform and exclusive games, and some timed exclusive games

Every time an Xbox event approaches, we get our share of false rumors!

Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth and Final Fantasy 7 Remake join the long list of games formerly exclusive to PlayStation that are landing on Xbox: Kena, Sifu, Death Stranding (then Death Stranding 2), Persona 3 Reload, Forspoken, Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, Final Fantasy VII, Kingdom Hearts, MLB The Show, Nioh, spyro, crash bandicoot (because acquisitions for the last 2), etc...

DOOM Dark Ages or any other game, it will be day one on Game Pass, that's one thing for sure at least!

With the number of Switch 2 units that will be sold, it's a great opportunity for Xbox to port certain games like Call of Duty to the Nintendo console. The future of Xbox is bright, and their hybrid strategy that combines multiplatform and exclusive games is bearing fruit. Another nice snub to the haters and the blue-capped fanboys.

Indy for game of the year, best writing, best world game
Melina Juergens for best acting
Final Fantasy 7 : rebirth for best remake
Elden ring shadow of the erdtree for best DLC

@Banjo- Thank you Banjo, finally a lucid and constructive comment. It's crazy how many fanboys of the other console come here to complain. Taking only the raw number of consoles sold without considering the MAU (Monthly Active Users), engagement rate, average revenue per player, etc., makes absolutely no sense in business terms. It's just hot air used by fanboys to reassure themselves in the face of the lack of first-party games from their beloved brand.

Combining the best of Xbox, often considered the best console OS, and the best of Windows sounds great to me! The Xbox OS is already based on Windows but really oriented towards consoles, which makes things easier. Now the challenge is to make it truly adapted to all platforms: portable console, PC, Xbox home console, TV, mobile, etc. It will be the same system on the next Xbox home consoles, portable console, and PC, which will really allow for the same experience regardless of the platform. We already have PC Anywhere, cross-save, playing your own games in the cloud, and other features. All that's left is to have a common OS for all these platforms. But we won't have a separate Windows and another OS; one will be integrated into the other.

Moreover, Steam OS is more user-friendly, but in terms of compatibility, stability, and performance, it's naturally not as good as native Windows. Proton remains an emulation, and certain DirectX12 features are not supported, for example.