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@Dimey No, play it day 4 with "Game pass Ultimate". Play it day 366 on "game pass" and after it's on PS5 too.
People need to stop calling game pass game pass when they are referring to game pass ultimate.

So the naming and extra tiers from a month back clearly are a confusing mess to people.

Here is the Aaron Greenberg quote from 2020 yet again https://x.com/aarongreenberg/status/1258378640087060481?t=vKIEhu66eorRLDOcP9zDqQ&s=19
"60fps will be the standard output" when talking about series x.

Liar.

@cragis0001 Who else is going full 3rd party? Oh right, nobody else but Xbox.

So what happened to PlayStation "following" suit and putting their games day and date on PS Plus??? Remember that prediction?
Xbox refuse to do that now. You need the ultimate tier for that.

@somnambulance The game is doa. 5 more players on Xbox..... and all the entire work that the developer will need to put in, introducing series s into the development of an ongoing game, will not change this. (I'm only going by ALL THE 2020 announced Xbox games that are in development hell at this point because of series s).

Bringing a PS5 developed game to series s/x is NOT the same as bringing a series s made game to PS5. Please understand this.

The Xbox Loss, weighs in. In slimey Phil we trust.

@OldGamer999 Gaming will be dead then too. Consolidation is NEVER the answer. Not only is competition a good thing but studios, game engines, genres, hardware advantages/uniqueness breeds competition too.

@GADG3Tx87 This time last year you and nobody had any idea Xbox bought a load of PS4/PS5 dev kits and was already months into porting 4 games to PlayStation and Switch consoles, that then launched in early 2024.

Of course there are more games in development RIGHT NOW, slimey Phil said it right there with the slimey IGN staff member in that slimey question controlled interview right after the showcase where he said "More games are going to other platforms."
Even before this was said, we knew it was happening. The floodgates opened officially in early Feb 2024 after the "business update".

Do you think if Forza Horizon 5 will be announced for other platforms tomorrow, that it will take 8 months to come out or will it be out in less than 8 weeks like those 4 other games? Time to accept that this is the current state of Xbox right now. As everyone said in Feb, now you have to wonder when anything is announced where it is actually going to be releasing.

Turns out, Indy may as well have been announced for PS5 way way WAY back in January 2021, back when it was announced.
Because by the time it finally got a day and date release date, the PS5 version was announced then anyway. They could have just did it at the showcase 2 months ago but we all know now why they didn't. Because it would have TOOK AWAY from that Xbox showcase......... nobody is going to admit this.

You mean PlayStation Plus' The Callisto Protocol. It was on Plus like a year ago, the difference is, out of the millions that grabbed it, they still can do that right now.

This won't be available to game pass users in a month or 2 so it most certainly won't be "Xbox Game Pass's The Callisto Protocol" then either.

@NEStalgia And don't forget, a decade of slimey Phil running things has dragged the Xbox console brand and name down to where it is now.

@InsaneWade Plenty of people are reporting that S and X XB1 consoles that haven't been updated in a few years are doing the same thing though. DF hadn't noticed that since they don't own any of those consoles that went years without an update.

People are right, Xbox were so far ahead with the XB1. They are the trailblazers of "unable to connect to server, enjoy your brick." Or "bye bye forever over 70% of Xbox 360's library".

The worst games console reveal in history back in May 2013 manages to get worse with every passing year.

And why is it so quiet in here???

@Sol4ris Or just nuke it. Surely just stopping it and cancelling it would be still cheaper then having to start development on a series s version in late 2024? When do you want the game be ready for, 2025/2026 like most of Xbox's own development hell, half a decade still coming, 1st party games this gen? 😬😅😆😬🤣😆😅😆

That's the REALITY of the joke you think you just made.
And for what? 5 more players on Xbox?

Just nuke Concord, like I begged since its first announcement years ago.

The 2nd Season only made it because they thought Season 1 would go down so well lol.

Imagine having the 2 worst selling consoles on the market the past 4 years and still putting out a novelty item for that same failure.

Oh thank goodness. Halo is still in good hands for over a decade then, with Killzone 2 still beating ANYTHING 343i has made on Metacritic (go on, look it up).

Another month in 2024 and another blow to Xbox fans.

Of course its series s. If all of Xbox's very own 1st party 2019/2020 games were all released by now, you would have a case that it is lazy devs in this specific case. There isn't even an ingame screenshot of some of these games 4 years later.

After the disastrous Halo Infinite, franchise destroying, gameplay reveal, Phil is terrified to show any footage of games since. For example, they never showed any raw gameplay with HUDs of Redfall right up to its release.

But you can't say its down to the devs because it makes no sense if you say it is their fault.

@Dimey No, although you wouldn't be blamed for assuming so.

A lot of things at Xbox since the studio closures have all been pure speculation and insider whispers, since the usual people that can't stop talking like Phil Spencer the god, the savior, the gamer just like us, have all gone radio silence since then. And retweets and reposts don't count.

And its always a great sign when things leak out. It always means happy developers, just look at the new leaks of multiplatform Doom The Dark Ages from no other then the happy studios at Bethesda.

"Xbox Series X|S owners can look forward to an upgrade" whether you like it or not.

Thanks to Smart Delivery you will never have the option of playing the Xbone version on series s/x again, even if the new gen version releases with problems. Choice is always better.

@PassePartout Xbox is doing such a horrendous job this gen, its like Sony is alone. Xbox can f*** off tomorrow and it won't change anything.

@Lup The "short" part? Nah. Uncharted Drake's Fortune came out 17 years ago and was still 10 hours long. Things have changed a little since then in their game lengths lol.

Like Sea of Thieves being in development for PS4/PS5 THIS TIME LAST YEAR....... of course a PS5 version of Hellblade 2 is in the works months ago (and of course the article makes it look like a port is being considered or started work recently).

Phil and Xbox didn't buy all those PlayStation dev kits for nothing.

@GeeEssEff That makes no sense when it's on everything else lol. There were 2500 Xbone games and over 5000 PS4 games last gen. "Timed exclusiveness" is NOT the reason why.

All the extra work of having to get it running on 2 consoles for the worst sales return like everything this gen, probably has something to do with it. It was a problem LONG before what happened this week.

Obviously not good enough for Xbox. Luckily Phil isn't a liar and wants a bigger presence of Xbox in Japan like he has said the past decade. Wait........

Whatever happened to "Ep_13" lol? Just disappeared after Starfield bombed. Phil needs him more than ever to cheerlead for him.

@Vipor007 It was only a 1 year timed exclusive though. Series s is likely why its only coming to Xbox now. Proof? Look at all the Xbox 1st part games coming since 2019/2020 STILL yet to release because of clear developement issues. And when games do come out like Redfall, Starfield and Forza 8, they are disappointing as current gen only games in the visual dept one way or another.

Only thing here is Kena came to PS4 no problem. It would have taken even LONGER had they brought this cross gen game to Xbone. Is that also Sony and the developers fault they won't be bringing it to the console that was abandoned in 2020???

What about FFXIV, the game that Phil Spencer said was coming to Xbone the past 7 years and they would do everything to get it running on Xbox Live.......... and then just gave up and moved to current gen with it instead? Is that also your myth "exclusive" nature to blame here?

What about the 2500 of the 5000 PS4 games that simply were never bothered to be brought over to Xbone last gen??? Is that ALSO the work of EVIL exclusivity???

Time to wake up and admit some truths. The Xbox console brand is simply in decline.

Its 10 years old at this year's end.

Shame Xbox fans didn't buy and support it. Imagine that. Imagine Insomniac Games, announcing that they are making an exclusive game for your brand new, upcoming, Xbox console. THAT'S what happened in the build up and the first year of launch of Xbone.
And people claim IT was the worst Xbox console when series s and x are tracking worse sales at the same time in Xb1's life.

Can you even imagine something like that happening today? Again, INSOMNIAC GAMES MAKING AN EXCLUSIVE GAME FOR YOU!!! Xbox fans dropped the ball SO HARD back then. That was the final push Insomniac needed to finally give in and go with Sony going forward.

@Tecinthehead Pure lies. The big leak shows that a new Ratchet and Clank game will be coming down the line. So, no need for utter lies, thanks.

@LX_FENIX They are not full of ****. Just think about it logically for 2 seconds.

1, it's an Unreal Engine game, a multiplatform game engine, they aren't porting over Decima engine game here lol.

2, It's a PS4 game, OF COURSE series s should be able to run it easily enough like most cross gen games this gen.

That's it, that's why this is an easy port.
We are now 3 and a half years into the gen and developers are getting beyond annoyed at making current gen only games and having to spend the most time on Xbox version BECAUSE series s exists and BECAUSE the game sales are simply in the far less minority compared to PC and PlayStation. You can't ignore this. Game sales DO matter.

Do you not think its bizarre that Xbox announced loads of games in 2019 and 2020 and they aren't out yet, some without even release dates? If Xbox had released 10 current gen only 1st party games since the series s/x launched, then you would have an argument that its all the 3rd party developer's fault. But you can't because Xbox's own studios are even in development hell with some of their own games.

Edit, oh and all the latest news and closures, yep, I was right, Perfect Dark is literally in development hell like I thought it was 2 years ago.

@GuyinPA75 But but but where is the XB1 release? Oh right, they DID skip it.

Just like FFXIV after Phil promised for 7 years they were doing everything to get that PS3 game up and running on XB1 and Live.

Planetside 2 also has been tied up in ZERO timed exclusivity the past 7 years too. Its clearly Xbox Live stopping the 1000 player matches from being possible.

Developers ARE rethinking their release strategies on Xbox and have been a while. Why do you think there are 2500 more games on PS4 last gen than XB1. And NO, it's not timed exclusive deals, especially when a lot of those missing games on Xbox are on Switch and PC too.

Sorry, you just needed a reality check. The sooner you accept it, the less painful it will be for you down the line, like the rest of 2024, when more developers stop being cowards and just speak their minds and the truth of the current situation.