@themightyant this is exactly where I’m at. I have a PS5 Pro and Switch 2 now, I really don’t buy games on Xbox anymore. I still like many of the games from their multiple studios, but I’m not investing in a platform with an uncertain and constantly changing future. That rubs quite a few people the wrong way, but it’s just my personal view. I just don’t want to keep building a game library on a platform with so much uncertainty. Most anything I want to play from Xbox will be on PlayStation.
Is anybody really shocked or surprised? It’s pretty clear there will be no Xbox exclusives going forward. Right or wrong it’s the decision they’ve made.
Finished Doom The Dark Ages 100%. Had a great time with it. Will probably play some Helldivers 2 with friends and may work on some Clair Obscur Expedition 33 as well.
I’m missing my time with Doom already though. Not sure why it’s getting so much negativity. It’s a really fun game anyone can enjoy with all the difficulty options and tuning.
@TheGameThrifter it only makes sense for the business side of things. Xbox only gamers are overlooked and more and more 3rd party games are skipping the platform altogether. Only the staunchest of fans can defend it. If that’s what Spencer and company want to do, it’s their show to run. There will come a time (soon) when even the super fans will lament these moves. Not for the revenue but for the (lack of) their own felt value in supporting Xbox.
@Millionski yes, and while I’ve owned every Xbox, the Series consoles will be my last. Just no need when everything is coming to the competition. Very few, myself included can play several games a month. So while GamePass is admittedly great, I’d rather focus on the 2-3 Xbox games a year I have time to play. If you’re a console gamer and don’t have time to play a new game every other day, PS will be the default high end console for most gamers. Unless Xbox comes up with something revolutionary for next gen, hardware will just keep declining at a rapid rate from here on out, at a precipitous rate. Just look at the current numbers. I have loved the brand from the beginning, but I think this will all hurt Xbox hardware irreparably.
@TheGameThrifter the coping of some of these fans is hilarious. Console sales absolutely matter for the health of the brand and you’re correct, PS5 and Switch are selling (have sold) like gang busters. And the only people saying they don’t matter are Xbox fanboys and fangirls who have seen their favorite brand slide in to irrelevance under Spencer. Mattrick wounded Xbox deeply and Spencer slowly bled it out. Just terrible mismanagement yet Spencer is still worshiped by many of the diehards.
You guys really missed the mark on your Indiana Jones and the Great Circle review. I know it’s an opinion (from my side as well), but that game is definitely better than 6/10. You guys were among the lowest review scores, if not the next to lowest. Find a better reviewer that actually likes good video games.
You guys are often weirdly hyper critical of some good games, but you completely lost me with giving Indiana Jones a 6/10. While not perfect (no game is actually without a single flaw of course), it’s one of the best games released in 2024 and while perhaps not a perfect 10/10, it’s certainly not a 6/10. Death Stranding is not a better game than Indiana Jones and the Great Circle.
@Coletrain Series console will likely not break 40 million. The folks that want/need one already bought them. And Xbox hasn’t exactly been giving many compelling reasons to buy one now. They seemingly gave up a couple years ago, by Phil’s own admission.
I’ve enjoyed having a Series S. I also have a Series X, but I’ve played and enjoyed many games on the S. It gets a lot of hate from all sides, but it’s a good little console for many people. For a kid’s Christmas gift or for someone who doesn’t have the best TV, it’s a great way to get next gen features.
@OldGamer999 yep. This generation has gone much like the last, except Xbox is finally on its last legs as a brand instead of somewhat trying to regain a foothold.
At this point, I’d rather them just put the games on PS5 day and date so I can buy them there. Gamepass hasn’t had much of anything that interests me in over a year. Xbox just isn’t the value proposition it once was, to me at least. Maybe this is what they want.
@StylesT already has for me, just in the last few months. I still have my Xboxes, but I’m buying all my games on PS going forward. Won’t be a need for an Xbox in the near future. Shame, I’ve always owned an Xbox.
@Kienda they never do anything special for their dedicated fans, especially their console players. And before anybody says “day one on GamePass”, yeah, we pay for GamePass.
This strategy already has me VERY hesitant to invest a single dime further in to this ecosystem. Not because I hate Xbox; quite the opposite. But I question Xbox’s future with regards to hardware and viability. If others don’t have an issue with everything being multiplat in the future, that’s fine, but it gives me and many others no reason to invest in Xbox beyond playing their games elsewhere.
Bought it at launch last year and completed the storyline. Haven’t really been back to it as my buddies lost interest as well. I did have fun with it though.
@CallMeDuraSouka same here. I’m not investing any more in to this platform. I want Indiana Jones (which let’s face it will probably be on PS5 anyway), but short of that I won’t be buying anything more in this ecosystem. I honestly regret buying so many 3rd party games on Xbox the last few years. Could have been building a PS library instead.
Doubtful, Xbox doesn’t seem to care much for its console players this generation. The Series Consoles are not selling, so why would they bother with a Pro?
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Re: Talking Point: Did You Expect More From Xbox 360's 20th Anniversary?
Microsoft sucks in a lot of ways now, so I pretty much expected them to do or say little to nothing.
The current management needs to be gone top to bottom.
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Is 24 Years Old Today, What Do You Expect From Next Year's 25th Birthday?
Under current management, I don’t expect they’ll do anything. They seemingly want to get far away from their console past.
Re: Talking Point: As A Game Pass Subscriber, Do You Still Spend Money In Xbox Sales?
@themightyant this is exactly where I’m at. I have a PS5 Pro and Switch 2 now, I really don’t buy games on Xbox anymore. I still like many of the games from their multiple studios, but I’m not investing in a platform with an uncertain and constantly changing future. That rubs quite a few people the wrong way, but it’s just my personal view. I just don’t want to keep building a game library on a platform with so much uncertainty. Most anything I want to play from Xbox will be on PlayStation.
Re: Talking Point: What's Your Xbox Game Of The Year For 2025 So Far?
Doom: The Dark Ages for me. Expedition 33 is second.
Re: DOOM: The Dark Ages Xbox Patch Nerfs Super Shotgun & Cheap 'From Behind' Deaths
Waiting on a fix for the Berzerker achievement.
Re: Talking Point: This Classic Activision Racer Came To Xbox 15 Years Ago, And We Sorely Miss It
GOOD arcade racers need to make a comeback.
Re: Rumour: Xbox's Starfield Is Moving To PS5, Should Be Announced This Year
Is anybody really shocked or surprised? It’s pretty clear there will be no Xbox exclusives going forward. Right or wrong it’s the decision they’ve made.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (May 24-25)
Finished Doom The Dark Ages 100%. Had a great time with it. Will probably play some Helldivers 2 with friends and may work on some Clair Obscur Expedition 33 as well.
I’m missing my time with Doom already though. Not sure why it’s getting so much negativity. It’s a really fun game anyone can enjoy with all the difficulty options and tuning.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (May 17-18)
Definitely playing and enjoying Doom the Dark Ages. Need to put some more time in to Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 as well.
Re: Indiana Jones 'Selling Faster' On PS5 Than Xbox & Steam, Says Analysis
@Fiendish-Beaver they (mostly) know it, but can’t admit it. Xbox will have one more console, and it probably won’t sell more than 15-20 million.
Re: Reaction: Xbox's Third-Party Strategy Is Finally Making Sense To Me
@Xboxian360 couldn’t have said it better.
Re: Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Gets 'Big Visual Boost' On PS5 Pro, Says Tech Review
@TheGameThrifter it only makes sense for the business side of things. Xbox only gamers are overlooked and more and more 3rd party games are skipping the platform altogether. Only the staunchest of fans can defend it.
If that’s what Spencer and company want to do, it’s their show to run. There will come a time (soon) when even the super fans will lament these moves. Not for the revenue but for the (lack of) their own felt value in supporting Xbox.
Re: Talking Point: We Played Xbox's First Forza Release On PS5, And It Felt Weird
@Millionski yes, and while I’ve owned every Xbox, the Series consoles will be my last. Just no need when everything is coming to the competition. Very few, myself included can play several games a month. So while GamePass is admittedly great, I’d rather focus on the 2-3 Xbox games a year I have time to play. If you’re a console gamer and don’t have time to play a new game every other day, PS will be the default high end console for most gamers. Unless Xbox comes up with something revolutionary for next gen, hardware will just keep declining at a rapid rate from here on out, at a precipitous rate. Just look at the current numbers. I have loved the brand from the beginning, but I think this will all hurt Xbox hardware irreparably.
Re: Talking Point: We Played Xbox's First Forza Release On PS5, And It Felt Weird
@IOI yep, many dreamers are going to be in for a rude awakening.
Re: Random: 20 Years Later, The Xbox 360 Is Still Finding New Fans In 2025
Actually picked another one up recently. It’s still a shame to store is no longer open. Was and is a great console.
Re: Xbox On Keeping Games Off Other Platforms: 'That's Not A Path For Us'
@TheGameThrifter the coping of some of these fans is hilarious. Console sales absolutely matter for the health of the brand and you’re correct, PS5 and Switch are selling (have sold) like gang busters. And the only people saying they don’t matter are Xbox fanboys and fangirls who have seen their favorite brand slide in to irrelevance under Spencer. Mattrick wounded Xbox deeply and Spencer slowly bled it out. Just terrible mismanagement yet Spencer is still worshiped by many of the diehards.
Re: Poll: What Were The Best Xbox Game Pass Additions In 2024?
You guys really missed the mark on your Indiana Jones and the Great Circle review. I know it’s an opinion (from my side as well), but that game is definitely better than 6/10. You guys were among the lowest review scores, if not the next to lowest. Find a better reviewer that actually likes good video games.
Re: Four Xbox Games We've Given 'Outstanding' 10/10 Scores To In 2024
You guys are often weirdly hyper critical of some good games, but you completely lost me with giving Indiana Jones a 6/10. While not perfect (no game is actually without a single flaw of course), it’s one of the best games released in 2024 and while perhaps not a perfect 10/10, it’s certainly not a 6/10. Death Stranding is not a better game than Indiana Jones and the Great Circle.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Console Sales Down Almost 30% In The US Compared To 2023
@Coletrain Series console will likely not break 40 million. The folks that want/need one already bought them. And Xbox hasn’t exactly been giving many compelling reasons to buy one now. They seemingly gave up a couple years ago, by Phil’s own admission.
Re: Flight Simulator 2024 Struggles To Take Off As Servers Buckle On Launch Day
Typical for Xbox this generation.
Re: Xbox Series S Will Be Discounted For Black Friday, Confirms Microsoft
I’ve enjoyed having a Series S. I also have a Series X, but I’ve played and enjoyed many games on the S. It gets a lot of hate from all sides, but it’s a good little console for many people. For a kid’s Christmas gift or for someone who doesn’t have the best TV, it’s a great way to get next gen features.
Re: Xbox Hardware Revenues Down Again Despite Content & Services Growth
Well, they spent 4 years telling you not to buy them, and they treat console owners like 3rd class ecosystem citizens. What would anybody expect?
Re: Microsoft CEO Gaming Division Update: 'We Continue To Extend Our Content To New Platforms'
@Fenbops my sentiments exactly. I’m likely playing on my last Xbox console.
Re: Roundup: All The Reveals From The Xbox Tokyo Game Show 2024 Event
@16BitHero you’re not alone. We’re just not pretending like many.
Re: Xbox's Sarah Bond Initially 'Clashed' With Phil Spencer When Working Together
@Titntin they don’t want to hear truth. They want to keep living in dream land.
Re: PS5 Pro's $699 Price Was 'Easier Decision' Due To Lack Of Xbox Competitor, Says Analysis
@OldGamer999 yep. This generation has gone much like the last, except Xbox is finally on its last legs as a brand instead of somewhat trying to regain a foothold.
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your Fondest Memories Of The Original Xbox?
Still a great console and one I still collect for and play. Modern Xbox has lost their way.
Re: Phil Spencer Talks About Two Activision Games That Xbox Missed Out On Signing
Phil makes a lot of bad choices and mistakes.
Re: Capcom Fighting Collection 2 Not Announced For Xbox, But Don't Lose Hope Yet
It’s not coming, just like the other Capcom and Konami games that have skipped Xbox. It’s just not worth their effort apparently.
I’m fortunate to have the other consoles so luckily I don’t have to miss it. Stuff like this stinks to Xbox only users.
Might be something to think about going forward.
Re: Phil Spencer On Game Exclusivity: 'We Have To Anticipate There's Going To Be More Change'
At this point, I’d rather them just put the games on PS5 day and date so I can buy them there. Gamepass hasn’t had much of anything that interests me in over a year. Xbox just isn’t the value proposition it once was, to me at least. Maybe this is what they want.
Re: Talking Point: How Would You Feel If Xbox's Major Fall Release Is Call Of Duty: Black Ops 6?
I expect them to fail and not have very many quality releases, as always.
They need new management badly.
Re: Xbox Console Sales Struggling As Hardware Revenue Nosedives At Microsoft
I’ve owned every Xbox console offered. This generation will be my last. All my 3rd party purchases will be on PlayStation as of this year.
Mixed/poor messaging, TERRIBLE leadership, and uncertainty around the brand identity killed it for me.
Only the fingers in their ears and hands over their eyes die hards can’t see the writing on the wall.
Re: Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown Is Teasing 'A Major Announcement' For This Week
I’m still excited but this has really been a long wait. A REALLY long wait.
Re: DOOM: The Dark Ages To Be Announced At Xbox's Showcase, Claims New 'Exclusive'
@StylesT already has for me, just in the last few months. I still have my Xboxes, but I’m buying all my games on PS going forward. Won’t be a need for an Xbox in the near future. Shame, I’ve always owned an Xbox.
Re: Sea Of Thieves PS5 FAQ Reveals How It Compares To The Xbox Version
@Kienda they never do anything special for their dedicated fans, especially their console players. And before anybody says “day one on GamePass”, yeah, we pay for GamePass.
Re: Xbox Reportedly Testing The Waters With Sea Of Thieves PS5 Release
@ShadowofTwilight yep, yet I still see people arguing that it’s “only four old games.”
Re: Xbox Reportedly Testing The Waters With Sea Of Thieves PS5 Release
@abe_hikura this 100%
This strategy already has me VERY hesitant to invest a single dime further in to this ecosystem. Not because I hate Xbox; quite the opposite. But I question Xbox’s future with regards to hardware and viability. If others don’t have an issue with everything being multiplat in the future, that’s fine, but it gives me and many others no reason to invest in Xbox beyond playing their games elsewhere.
Re: Poll: What Are Your First Impressions Of Diablo 4 On Xbox Game Pass?
Bought it at launch last year and completed the storyline. Haven’t really been back to it as my buddies lost interest as well. I did have fun with it though.
Re: Phil Spencer On Porting Exclusives: 'Every Decision We Make Is To Make Xbox Stronger'
@CallMeDuraSouka same here. I’m not investing any more in to this platform. I want Indiana Jones (which let’s face it will probably be on PS5 anyway), but short of that I won’t be buying anything more in this ecosystem. I honestly regret buying so many 3rd party games on Xbox the last few years. Could have been building a PS library instead.
Re: Phil Spencer On Porting Exclusives: 'Every Decision We Make Is To Make Xbox Stronger'
@MrN0vmbr yep.
Re: With A 'PS5 Pro' Now Rumoured For 2024, Where Does That Leave Xbox?
Doubtful, Xbox doesn’t seem to care much for its console players this generation. The Series Consoles are not selling, so why would they bother with a Pro?
Re: Xbox Series S Toaster Begins Showing Up In The UK For Just £29.99
Can’t find it in the U.S. at retail price anymore.
Re: Best Xbox Racing Games
If you like arcade racers, Dirt 5 and GRID Legends are superb.
Re: Pick One: Which Of These Xbox One Launch Titles Is Your Favourite?
Ryse: Son of Rome is still a fantastic game. Very underrated and excellent graphics.
Re: This Nostalgic Xbox Home Video Footage Now Has Over 4 Million Views On YouTube
Tyler has great content, recommend everyone who has great gaming memories sub to his channel.
Re: Talking Point: Today Marks 22 Years Of Xbox As OG Console Celebrates A Big Birthday
Still have mine, still hooked up to a CRT. Still buying games for it. Such a great console!
Re: Reaction: Looking Back, Xbox Has Had Some Strange GOTY Omissions Over The Years
I legit don’t think there are any Xbox fans on this site anymore. 😄
Re: Reaction: Looking Back, Xbox Has Had Some Strange GOTY Omissions Over The Years
@Titntin but lemme guess - SpiderMan 2 deserves to be nominated?
Re: RoboCop: Rogue City Analysis Shows Big Performance Gains On Xbox Series X
Game is fantastic
Re: Xbox's 'Series S Starter Bundle' Is Now Available
@J_Mo_Money the negativity on this site is getting to be ridiculous. Not sure why some of these folks don’t just move on from the brand.