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@Kaloudz

The profit loss is to Rebellion's would-be premium sales. The metric is to see how many GP day 1 game making studios go under from now on... remembering Redfall etc.

@Kaloudz

They are literally giving us churners USD $70 day 1-5 games for around $15, lol, eventually they'll have to stop doing it this way

@AlwaysPlaying

RPG shooter with a mystery horror/Chernobyl-lite story

It's like B-grade movies and tv, only super-fans/niche-players bother to deep dive to find/watch them

I don't care for any A- or B-grade games. It's AAA and maybe some AA only.

Steam is the primary dump for slop, and that's why I don't want it on Xbox and am looking at PS6 instead.

Will any of them actually work fully and properly without the devs needing to modify them first for the new fixed-hybrid-PC-Xbox-hardware?

@Coletrain

The smart move for us worried types is to keep XSX-ing until the technical reviews/tests of the next console are out, but in the meantime before next gen, can we really blow multiple hundreds more on premium game sales inside the XB-ecosystem?

@Coletrain

Yeah it sucks because I'm about USD 2K into Xbox hardware + peripherals + games, but still would rather put any additional money into an ecosystem that I have better confidence in

@gollumb82

Ahhh regarding the Elite Dangerous offering. And boy are we so much alike re our non-cartoony space sims, as I had exactly the same feeling regarding No Mans Sky. Starfield is the sweet spot!, although I'm UC Vanguard not a Crimson Fleet spaceman (unless you're talking undercover agent/infiltration which was cool).

@Coletrain

What you said "a lot of PC games take a bit of messing to get right" is the exact problem. The Problem. The problem that fixed-hardware solves (or is supposed to). Time is precious, I want to be playing, not 'fixing'. But maybe I'm unusual in this regard and other people are happy to waste lots of time 'fixing' games. For example Mods in Starfield to me is worthless, since vanilla Starfield+Mainline-DLC should have been good and clean and done.

@Titntin

I'm about games being checked by devs and working properly on fixed-hardware. Storefronts and community pages and install configs etc. are useless to me, and I didn't know people were so into Steam for that, but thanks for enlightening me in that regard, cheers

@Cakefish

I don't want steam on xbox. That's my whole point, I want a tight gaming experience with all games programmed correctly, checked and re-checked by huge AAA dev teams. Games that work properly day 1 or even day 60. Most currently can't even do that right with fully-locked-down-consoles, not this hybrid-crap.

@gollumb82

You and me so similar. Oh, If you are OK with PC gaming and online connected games (I'm not), then latest release Elite Dangerous has all the elements Starfield offers in a play session, I think. But the graphics are a little last-gen maybe, if I remember correctly.

@Coletrain

I don't have faith in MS like you do.

Based on the inability of most modern devs (with modern AAA releases) to programme correctly for current gen full-consoles, I think a hybrid-PC-Xbox will be an unoptimized/unchecked trainwreck, even for MS-first-party-releases.

It's PS time!

@gollumb82

Yeah we're tech-bros kinda then. I refunded Star Citizen (I have an unused RTX 4060 mobile like your PS5) because SC was too 'sim' and less 'fun sim', requiring online connect and like 20 mins each session before something fun happens

@Kaloudz

Yeah but I just don't want to spend more money on games in this gen with no idea if next gen will support them or break them or be broken overall at everything. MS has a history of making broken stuff, like Win 8 and Windows Phone and Kinect and Auto Focus desktop webcams...

@gollumb82

Thanks, That's good to hear. I had a PS1 and PS2, but went PC gamer after that before returning to console in the Xbox One S era because of the low price point of entry (tricked by MS, lol). I could have got a PS4 at that time, but then I would have missed out on Starfield being in the Sony space.

Yeah, Starfield is the only non-cartoony single-player offline open-world space sim game on console where you can do all the 'spaceman things'. I roleplay as UC Vanguard with a little TMD Science sample collection, mostly daily.

@gollumb82

Yeah, already decided pretty much because I don't like their attitude re existing customer relations etc. Just need Starfield, my daily driver, on PS5 first.

@MrMagic

Yeah, nice tech-doc find/copy.

I'm moving to PS5/6 for a proper console experience next gen, or maybe as soon as Starfield is on PS5, not sure yet.

Anyway, not going to buy another game on Xbox, maybe kinda rip them off (play at their own game) with some refunded monthly game pass subs though.

@Doublecell

Yeah and any Non-Sony Steam game that is worth playing on Xbox is on Xbox already because it's AAA and already been ported by a large dev team.

Heck, even AA goodies like Terminator: Resistance are already on Xbox as is.

Steam on Xbox = Steam A-grade SLOP on Xbox, duds.

@Echtzeit

Yeah I'm getting a little tired of the pew pew too, which is why Mirrors Edge Catalyst was/is such a gem

@belmont

Yeah, good call, they really really need a verification/validation/checking system, because I can tell you that any old steam game booted up just won't work 99% of the time.

But personally I don't care for 3rd-person view, so most of Sony's games are duds to me.

claimed, thanks

fraser, wrong trailer for

Finding Frankie - Story Trailer (April 15, 2025)

needs fixing

@Tdx

Agreed, Starfield is where it's at, tech-bros know it.

Starfield, Game of the gen, and I'm not joking, I like it muchly

Actually, if when Starfield comes to PS, I'm a PS owner, dumping the Xbox, desiring the proper console experience, not a Console-PC gaming hybrid garbage filled with bugs/glitches and unplayable games.

@gollumb82

If steam comes to the next xbox, I'm a PS proper console owner day 1

@Kaloudz

No, games won't work, see my posts, mark my words

@Ricky-Spanish

I was a PC gamer for like 20 years and It's terrible, filled with bugs/glitches/errors/problems, and PC players who play more than just a few different games, spend so much time fiddling with things to try and make games playable, total waste of time.

Steam games on xbox will all mostly be unplayable, mark my words

PS: This article is really useful also, thanks Fraser. The "Try before you buy" or "Sub for a single-playthrough, which is all you'll ever do for 7/10 games" is best practice.

Ubisoft+ doesn't refund like Game Pass does in the first month in Australia. I burned 2x month subs trying and re-trying the dud Star Wars Outlaws with Ubi+. But Ubi+'s Starlink Battle for Atlas turned out to be a solid fun 7-8/10, and that's worth at least USD 18.

Garbage that shouldn't have PC anything on it and should work properly and well like a console should, not like a PC with endless fixing

Name = "Should have been like PS6"

Game pass freebie, thanks MS, before I switch to PS because you stop making a proper console and instead some hybrid garbage that won't play games properly without heaps of fiddling each game and it's blooming files

The point of xbox is to work properly out the box with little fiddling. I don't want to have to fiddle each game and it's install files just to get each to work well. If xbox game pass comes to PS5/6 I'm switching, none of the PC-hybrid-mashup-and-won't-work-right-crap.

@OldGamer999

Yeah, I feel bad for devs that make great games on/for GP and so buy them instead, either at full price if amazing or sale pricing elsewise

I will try it with game pass. Currently in Australia a cancelled GP sub is refunded in the first month. I've 'tried' lots of game this way and bought the ones I wanted to keep around longer

@Kilamanjaro

Those are great update ideas! and I'd like to play them

Mirrors edge catalyst

Homefront the revolution

are some of my all time favs

@LostInBlue0

I'm with you, have the Starfield news website bookmarked for almost daily checking

I'm like the only guy on PX that likes to play this almost every day.

Really happy to hear they are working on it still as honestly I thought they would give up on it given: a) The modern world business environment, b) The poor 1st DLC sales/playtimes

I literally upgraded from Series S to X for this one game, lol

@dreadful

Yeah the original trilogy is the same for me, too gory, especially the first.

But the reboot movie is more my speed, PG-13 lol

Each to their own

@themightyant

And poor people exist in wealthy countries, so you are for denying them?

@themightyant

This thinking is not aligned with global markets

Why should AAA game cost $X in country Y and $X-a lot in country Z. Regional pricing from digital/internet storefronts is weird, and totally contrary to the global market. Even a car costs $X in both countries unless it was manufactured on-site.

@Echtzeit

I'm with you, it's too much overkill, I'm out also