Shinobi1Kenoby

Yet more evidence that PS5 and Series X are needless, pointless, too early and irrelevant. The only driving force behind these consoles is hardware sales and not the Furthering of software capability.
Sony and Microsoft have been the slow cancer of console gaming since 1995.

Well if somebody who no longer works for one of the worst and most overrated studios ever is leading this, this should be nothing short of pure dynamite..... surely????

Nobody with any taste or self respect cares

Bought it. Best skin ever

@PretendWorking best gaming hardware. I never said Nintendo invented the wheel and the google tablet is irrelevant. Where’s the section in a gaming store for that software library in the gaming market? 😂 you’re brilliant at pointless points

@PretendWorking I wouldn’t class donkey kong, Mario kart or smash bros as Switch games. I played these on Wii U long before they were listed to Switch. breath of the wild however was well more a Switch game. I don’t imagine the sales numbers on Wii U even warranted it being ported on Wii U. The difference however is that porting the Wii U games has taken a small batch of phenomenal games, missed out by most of the gaming user base due to poor reception of the Wii U and delivered them on a console with a huge user base, letting them experience some awesome gaming the never previously had the chance to play.
Sony giving PS4 users, Persona 5, Last of Us, God of war 3, GTA V etc etc is just lazy and recycling in the hope that people would rebuy old games just so they had something to play on PS4.

@PretendWorking the Nintendo games themselves are obviously the main selling point. But when you add other exclusives like Octopath Traveller, Astral Chain and Xenoblade Chronicles franchise it all starts to get very heavy on the quality exclusives side of the scale.

@PretendWorking Persona 5 is a PS3 game ported to and then remastered again for PS4.
PS3 game.

@PretendWorking it just is.
However, it is not my “primary” console, but it the best and most impressive gaming hardware ever made.

@PretendWorking how am I a troll? 😂 cause I don’t agree with you so I must be saying these things on purpose just to troll you? 😂 😂 Jesus.

@PretendWorking for me it is what?

@PretendWorking I think I’m right and I think you’re wrong about everything you say.but they’re our opinions.

What’s “the last couple of days I’ve been active” got to do with anything and supposed to mean? 😂 your opinion is more valid as you’ve posted on here more and for longer? 😂

@PretendWorking your “primary” console is obviously predominately used to okay third party titles. Assessed on exclusives alone, the Switch is, by a clear mile, the best format available now.

@KelticDevil totally agree with you about list Sony exclusives. Downside is, that comment is also true of the XBox exclusives.

@PretendWorking we’ll see. I think you’re wrong.

@PretendWorking port begging? 😂
No, based on Atlus working with Nintendo a lot, having Joker added to Smash Bros, already working on Persona titles for Switch and Atlus themselves addressing the user base directly for Demand on porting all past Persona games...... you are aware Sony don’t own Atlus or the Persona franchise aren’t you?

@PretendWorking it looks highly likely that Persona 5, and possible 1 through to 4, will end up being released on Switch.

@TimG13 nope. Not at all.
Some of them yes to maybe, the other half? Categorically no. In particular I’m looking at Bloodborne. I find it very difficult to describe this game without resorting to expletives.
It is, front to back, an absolute pile of ....

@uptownsoul
Bloodborne - utter and total garbage. Uncharted 4 - one of worst in the franchise.
Horizon Zero Dawn - only just started playing
God of War (2018) - great game
Marvel's Spider-Man - mediocre. Strong city navigation but very weak everything else.
Death Stranding - not played.

I own all but one of these and base my opinion on hands on with them, not from looking at a single screen shot.

The only games I think are worth the price of entry to a PS4 are Street Fighter V, The Last of Us 2 and hopefully Ghost of Tsushima... this look like it should be incredible.

@uptownsoul it’s there for marketing purposes and means nothing. Same as the Oscars.

@TimG13 not confused at all. If anything I’m not seeing what you’re trying to say.

@uptownsoul it outright does mean they lack quality. There are some low quality games that I like also.

The vast majority of Sony games still play and move like PS2 games. Bloodborne is a massive example of this and is absolutely dire and bad quality throughout. But this is lauded as one of your “Game of the Year” games.

There are those games that generally would not get touched if they were multi format but, because they are exclusive, they are popular amongst hardware fanboys. Smash Bros is another example of this. If this wasn’t choc full of Nintendo characters, it would sell bugger all and isn’t actually a good quality game.
The vast majority of PS4 games fall into this slot of being over-celebrated and over-loved just because.

Actual solid high quality games that are exclusive to PS4 alone can be counted on one hand. To be fair, the same can be said of XBox One X.
They are multi-format consoles and not genuine gaming consoles like Sega, Nintendo and Atari are/were. They are more like dumbed down PC gaming platforms than they are gaming consoles. This why they lack true top tier in-house AAA development studios.
Any acclaimed first party studio has always been bought out then paraded around as Sony/XBox. The only top level company Sony has acquired is Naughty Dog, but this I my accounts for two exclusive IPs on the platform and only one of them has retained its quality and improved.
XBox bought Rare which should have been an incredible investment, till it turned out they bought a name alone and ended up with nothing of any worth to add to their stable of exclusive IPs.
When you rely on buying in your product you have much less creative output than if your company is building the hardware and the software that defines that console. The Switch has been THE best gaming platform in a long time for a number of reasons. Where the other two mop up and excel is the number of quality third party games that aren’t on Switch and need the more powerful hardware. It’s almost pointless owning a PS4 and an XBox unless you are really into gaming and it is worth shelling out for a while set up just to access those 2-3 games that just aren’t playable by any other means.

@TimG13 PlayStation “knocks it out if they park” purely based on the size of the install base. The actual number of genuinely good quality games on PS4 is low. Regardless of sales.
It’s the same of Star Wars. Star Wars fan boys will tout every single film. Whereas looking at the objectively, there is only one high quality and credible film out of all 9.
But ticket sales will tell you a different story. There’s plenty of unbelievably awesome movies and games that have low sales and vice versa. Numbers mean nothing. Otherwise we’d have to agree that FIFA and need for speed are the two best games ever made every single year? Correct?

@TimG13 Sony releases are over-congratulated and over-paid to be congratulated by others.
Bloodborne - not worth a minute of your life.
Uncharted 4 - franchise peaked at 2 and was losing its way, becoming old half way through 3.
God of War peaked at 3.
Last guardian is marmite and I personally find it boring, I also hated Ico and shadow of the colossus.
There has not been a single definitive game released on PS4 except for last of us 2.

Across the board, for exclusivity, Sony and Microsoft will fail endlessly compared to Nintendo. There is way too high a volume of real quality exclusive titles on Nintendo formats. Sony and Microsoft just battle it out for who delivers the best platform for the third party games Nintendo never gets; which is a lot of games and a worthy market slice to own.. Every home needs a Nintendo; after that, it’s whichever platform is the better out of the two for delivering third party titles between Sony and Microsoft. This gen, that platform has been XBox One X, 10 times out of 10.

If Nintendo developed a platform that received every third party title that Sony and Microsoft got.... they would both be knackered. Fact.
If a new Switch has docker performance matching XBox Series X and delivered FIFA, GTA6, RedDead3, BlackOpsV, Madden, etc etc etc. Why would you bother with anything else. Would you really buy an XBox just to be able to play Halo, Forza and Gears? To win an argument, of course you would, being honest with yourself? Would you hell.

@HammerKirby to be fair, they’re both as bad. The XBox just wins out for me as it wins every third party cross platform release comparison.

For me personally is has Conker’s Bad Fur day and the original Killer Instinct arcade release playable. An XBox is worth owning for that alone.

@tinCAT-zero what mistake?

@tinCAT-zero what’s that in response to?

PS4 has been waiting for a genuine exclusive of this calibre since it launched 7 years ago. Worst library of exclusive titles of any format, ever.

At least it got to finish on a high note before it replaces itself. Everybody.... look forward to “The Last of Us 2: Remastered” on PS5, this time next year and other such titles that warrants buying a PS5........?

@Tharsman 😂

@Tharsman it is outright encouraging young generations to enter into credit agreements.
That is nothing but bad.

@SuperNintendoMii exactly! And we are already supposed to be impressed that we are getting GTAV.... again! Nearly 8 years after it launched on PS3 and 360. What’s worse is that the game is pure garbage anyway and always was.

In the short term... neither are worth buying. Hardware wise, they just aren’t needed or provide any significant generational upgrade over the Pro and One X.
In addition to this, we will just get continued remasters for the first 2 years again and twin releases where the vast majority of all AAA titles will also be released on Pro and X.
I won’t even be looking to buy one till probably year 3 when the inevitable bug fixed, better design, more power, smaller model comes out. Who’s still got and plays the original 4 or One?

@zane547 the Switch joy cons are really bad. The pro controller has seemed bomb proof. Both of em

@BlueOcean yep, every time. They break that quick they have always been in warranty. I’ve not had one longer than 6 months before it’s useless.
My PS4 and Switch Pro Controllers? Rock solid and never an issue.

@zane547 I thought who’s this guy ragging on my lengthy post!? Then I read what I’d posted and thought....... oh dear 😂
Some of the edits took me while to remember what the hell I was saying so you had no chance 😂

@BlueOcean I got an elite as my fourth replacement thinking they metal stick would solve the drift and weakness issue. It didn’t, it developed drift within 3 Weeks and went straight back. Over £100 for a controller and the bit that was crap and weak beneath the sticks where it joins the PCB is the same as in the standard controller. Disgusting.

@zane547 gears is crap. Always was.
It’s space invaders in a very elaborate graphic engine.

Hide behind an array of strategically laid out walls in an arena, pop out, shoot stuff, move on.

Harder enemy, hide behind array of strategically laid out walls in an arena, pop out, shoot stuff

Even Harder enemy, hide behind array of strategically laid out walls in an arena, pop out, shoot stuff.

Super Harder enemy, hide behind array of strategically laid out walls in an arena, pop out, shoot stuff.

Repeat??

@zane547 done it...... it was a mess.... but I Fixed it.

@PretendWorking I’m amazed at how much sh** and nonsense I wrote. I had to go back and edit and re-write most of it as there were that many incorrect-autocorrects in it 😂.

@Tharsman the XBox controller are just cheap, poorly made and cheap plastic. The tap-tap-rap of the sticks against the brittle cheap plastic shell is annoying and the L3 housing is appalling. I’ve never had sticks disintegrate, crunch and develop drift so fast and easily on any format. I’ve gone through probably 7 pads in 3 years.

The sticks are better places on XBox and poorly on PS4. But the build quality of PS4 pads is just better.

THE best pad so far is the Switch Pro Controller. If you could use that on any format I’d use it for everything.

Took me ages to work what I meant when I re-read it! 😂

EDIT:
Sony have so lost this last generation. Big time.
I moved from PS4 and Switch to Xbox One X and Switch nearly 3 years ago.

PS4 is just weak and the range of exclusives is so limited it’s laughable. I recently moved back to PS4 as the XBox Controller is disgusting and cheap and I cannot stand it.
I found the PS4 controller to be better quality controller, but instantly noticed how weak the hardware is.

I still stand by the opinion that the PS4 was pointless next-gen release and not worth the upgrade from PS3.

In the last 7 years, the number of AAA console exclusives on PS4 stands at:
Street Fighter V
Uncharted 4
Bloodborne
God of War
Spiderman
Last of Us II.

and that is it.
For a 7 year run, that is disgusting and in my eyes an utter failure to deliver to your customer base.

However. The next gen for me will rely on the controller. Visuals are not really improving any more now from gen-to-gen and AAA titles are getting less and less about a quality game than they are about fancy packaging. The indie games of the last 7 years have far outshine the big studios in terms of quality and originality.
The big studios development budgets are so obscenely high that they cannot risk to take a risk anymore and just produce cookie cutter games and invest in graphics.

Point in case; Uncharted 4.
Brilliant franchise but it peaked with Uncharted 2 which is an all time classic and subsequently got more boring with each sequel. Pretty game, but didn’t add anything or get any more interesting over the next two games.
Forza Horizon 4 duped me into an XBox One X and it looked incredible. After a week???... goddamn it’s a boring game.

Console manufacturers need to go back and rediscover what makes an amazing gaming experience. The controller must be the best it can be, solid and intuitive. It is THE only conduit between you and the experience. If the interface is problematic then it’s a bad experience, no matter what. Then they need to rediscover what makes a great experience. Sitting through cutscenes and QTE set pieces is..... crap and cheap.
Spider-Man and Gears of War? Garbage and vacuous.
Doom and Metroid Prime? Absolute benchmarks of what a gaming experience should be.

Yet another thing on long term monthly payments. Outright no.
0% interest is one thing, but paying for a console close to £500 in £18 instalments will take a long time to pay. Should your financial circumstance change? This could be bad news. If you can afford it, great. If not, never take credit for a non-essential item. Really bad financial habit to pick up and these guys are encouraging kids it’s a good thing.