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BAMozzy

@Lup The Series S is a fantastic little system and offers superb 'bang for buck' gaming. Obviously you have a smaller GPU and less RAM as well as a bit less storage, also no Disc drive but for the price, you are still getting a LOT in that little box. Considering it comes with a Controller and HDMI 2.1 compatible HDMI cables in the box too, you are getting a lot in that little box.

If you have a 1080p display (or even a 1440p monitor), the Series S is perhaps a better fit than the Series X as the extra resolution won't make much (if any) noticeable difference. You also only get XB1S Back Compat versions (not XB1X) but with a HD screen, that's not too bad but you also won't get 60fps modes that XB1X versions have.

With Game Pass too, you have access to hundreds of games from the past 20+ yrs of Xbox gaming and access to brand new releases day and date every month. It might be a bit more like a 'Library' where you can 'borrow' games for as long as you remain a member and that Library has the title, but when it leaves, you do get the opportunity to purchase it permanently and with a 20% discount too. There is never any obligation to purchase 'anything'. The devs will get some money from just being on Game Pass, but to maximise their earnings, they have to convince you to purchase content.

Its a bit like a Mall where 'every' game is a separate store. The shop window may get you in the front door (of which there is no entry fee), but if you don't like what you see, feel etc inside that store, you won't spend money. If you enjoy being in that store, you are more likely to buy something and/or keep returning. All those stores/games are competing for your attention, no obligation to 'purchase' anything, and if if you enjoy the 'experience' in a store/game, you are more likely to return and spend time and money.

As others have said, there isn't much storage on a Series S (or X/PS5 for that matter) but you can buy expansion cards to run Series S versions of games, or you can add a USB storage (SSD/HDD) for Older games and/or 'storing' (not playing) Series games - they have to run from internal SSD or Expansion slot SSD. The expansion slot is a bit like those old 'memory' cards that can be swapped out quickly and easily so you could have multiple cards and just swap them out to play different games.

As for 'next-gen' games, the Series S will get the same multi-platform releases as the PS5 (and Series X of course) but obviously won't have the same Visual clarity so you shouldn't miss out.

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NEStalgia

I know @mousieone and I talked about this a while back, but has anyone noticed any problems specifically with some games, Quick Resume, and Remote Play?

At first I thought it was a general issue with Remote Play, but then I realized, the whole time I was playing AI Somnium, Quick Resume always worked on my XSS. Sometimes it would fail to start up right away, I'd go into "remote control this console" and try to start it a few times, and then after a minute or two it would start up and work fine. Then I went back to yakuza 0, And found once again that every other day or so I go to remote play, and it just won't start up. I go into remote control console and try to turn it on a few times, and it won't start up. Eventually I have to go physically turn the console on (light glows, for remote power on the light does not glow), and then it works. Though the quick resume session is usually lost and it starts from scratch again.

Somehow game-specific (or BC vs native XSXS?) quick resume issues prevent remote power up from working at all. Is it just me, or anyone else notice this? IDK how many people here use remote play so not many may notice.

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mousieone

@NEStalgia I don’t think Ai Somnium is native. But I don’t think Yakima 0 is 100% compatible with Quick Resume. I’ve noticed that a lot of games aren’t or they are only half/half. Tales compatibility with it got better over time for instance.

mousieone

NEStalgia

@mousieone Tales got better? I didn't remember them patching anything. I played in Feb or so and I remember every time it goes in quick resume the next speech comic book style cutscene that pops up would cause it to hardlock every time.

Yakuza 0 is definitely bad with QR, it crashes as often as it doesn't. But the big thing is how it seems to prevent remote startup from working at all. I thought remote play itself was just flaky on the consoles, but it seems like it's actually Yakuza 0 or games that fail QR prevent it from starting up, so if you leave the wrong game running, odds are remote play is down until you reboot or at least manually start the console.

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mousieone

@NEStalgia well when I was trying to use QR at launch it crashed the game so that’s better. Look I think it’s something the dev has to add by choice and Bandai like only did for SN and Taino. It works really well with Taiko. I have theories but anyway.

mousieone

NEStalgia

@mousieone I think MS needs to really do some major work on it. Maybe it can't work for everything but for games it doesn't work on, an X1/PS style suspend would be a better option. And having a QR unfriendly game really shouldn't be able to prevent remote control/remote play from turning on the console without waking up to it. QR is the best feature but the problems it can cause are nasty.

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Balta666

@NEStalgia for my part I never trust quick resume to work and only leave the game after saving. I use it as a good thing to have for quick access but never to remember my progress accurately as it is not reliable in general

Balta666

NEStalgia

@Balta666 It depends, on the game mostly. There are some it's absolutely solid, most it's not. But yeah, and that's sad, that's the main feature. Switch, you never have to worry about save points, it just suspends and almost never fails. X1 and PS4/5 with the power on suspend work fine, except if there's a power flicker so it's reasonably reliable. QR is the answer to all that, and they don't allow normal suspend, so it's sad that it so often fails. And a game like Yakuza 0 it's a royal pain not working, because that's a game you can go an hour or more between saves. If you just want to play for 20 minutes you simply can't. In a way, it's better on X1 where it really just suspends.

But QR being dodgy is one thing. Preventing remote play/power on is another. A bad QR shouldn't mess with system power states.

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Lavalera

@NEStalgia It seems like you have a totally different experience with Quick Resume than i have. I think in the time i have my series S (since launch) i only encountered problems on 2 games (not counting the games where you have to reconnect to the online services) where it crashed after a while once i restarted it after a QR and that's it. And for over a year my Xbox was my only console i played on and had 4 game on QR most of the time.
The suspend function on Ps5 for instance isn't perfect either. Most of the time it works fine, but i also had several save desync issues between local and cloud after restarting a game (being the worst with Horizon Forbidden west, where i had to resync the save files and even rebuild my ps5 database once).
So yeah in my personal experience there isn't much difference in stability of the functions

PSNid: Lavalera

NEStalgia

@Lavalera It's definitely game dependent. I do have games that pretty much never falter. I think I just have terrible luck picking ones that don't behave well. For sure the worst 2 are Yakuza 0 and Tales of Arise. The former tends to just crash/lose the QR, but the remote play problem is more troublesome, and you absolutely can't rely on it for progress, it only works maybe 1/2-3/5 the time. And arise was a guaranteed hard lock after every QR once it hits a storyboard. I've definitley had a lot of other iffy QR experiences, but there are also a number that aren't iffy.

Yeah, you're right about save desync. I've had that happen with a few games on PS5 and never even considered it had to do with suspend (never once had that issue on PS4...) R&C and Kena both did that do me multiple times. I think they might be the only two games, but everything else I think was PS4 native BC games so that may not mean much. That's an annoying issue to resolve.

It's weird, I get QR not working since it's a new way of doing it, but PS5 suspend isn't doing anything PS4 didn't do, but I never had trouble with it on PS4.

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Lavalera

@NEStalgia yeah it's especially annoying if it happens in games which don't auto save regurarly like Yakuza 0 indeed. To bad the crashes happen sometimes, in theory it's a genius function when it's working as intended. Let's hope for you future games you'll play have less issues, but I think with newer games we should have less problems since developers can now build around it

PSNid: Lavalera

NEStalgia

@Lavalera Definitely! It's still the best feature on XB, and it's why I opt to remote play on the XSS rather than cloud stream from GP, because QR. Which sounds great, except for when it doesn't work, or blocks remote play entirely when it fails

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Lup

So I finally got my Series S. It's a lovely console. I'm super happy to be honest. Having Game Pass it's pretty exciting too. So many games! And as someone who never had an Xbox console, the Gears and Fable are super tempting. But I've been playing a little of everything.

I have a weird question. Is there a really really easy racing game on Game Pass? My mom and I used to play a lot of NFS back in the PS2 era, and those were pretty easy (especially Underground 2) and as the generation kept changing we still would play on the PS2 because I never found anything like that anymore. Not even NFS.
A racing game where you can't get out of the circuit itself would be perfect, but I know I'm probably asking for too much.
I've tried NFS Heat and Forza Horizon (I think it was 4) but even on Easy those are kinda (pretty) hard for her.

Any ideas?

Also, thanks to everyone who responded to me about the Series S! It's an amazing little console and I'm super happy about it.

Lup

Grumblevolcano

August's NSO Expansion Pack game is Wave Race 64 so those expecting Goldeneye 007 to be shadow dropped for Xbox during the Xbox Gamescom stream are setting themselves up for disappointment.

Grumblevolcano

Xbox Gamertag: Grumble Volcano

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