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Essentially that means Halo, Forza may be on the PS5 and the next Nintendo console.

Yeah, not good

@kuu_nousee except with Nintendo, it’s mostly because of a hardware issue while with Xbox, it’s more of a player base thing.

But companies will find some way to get their presence on Switch since of the high install numbers on Switch, they’re not gonna outright ignore it.

@Dm9982 oh I know they’re not monopolizing the genre. It’s just that some comments here and in NL think that way despite most of us knowing it isn’t. So I just pointed that out here.

If Palworld is indeed using this patents, then they had it coming.

@Savage_Joe a lot of misinformation has happened because a lot of people believe it is copyright and think Nintendo is monopolizing an entire genre. When that’s not the case (SMT, MH Stories and such exist).

And supposedly, this patent was filed in May of this year and approved in August or September this year IN THE US. It MIGHT be that this supposed patent was approved earlier in Japan around somewhere in 2021.And this case will most likely be using the Japanese patents.

We are not sure if this is the parent in question. Nintendo mentioned multiple patent infringements. I heard another theory that Palworld was using one of Nintendo’s patents that they patented for BOTW/TOTK.

I think more or less the way THEY CODED THIS might be the reason why Nintendo found them. If they coded the same mechanic, but used slightly different code then this lawsuit wouldn’t happen. If they used the exact same code, then it will be troublesome.

Oh and this will likely take 5 years to be resolved unless they settle it out of court.

@shoeses considering the time they took, it looks they may have found something really damning.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2024/09/palworld-developer-responds-to-nintendo-lawsuit

So Palworld has responded to this and they said they are "unaware" of the specific patents they have been accused of infringing upon on. I will also point that a lot of people have actually tagged TPC and Nintendo about this game earlier as well. AND FOR THE LAST TIME, this is a PATENT infringement not a COPYRIGHT. PLEASE read the article more carefully.

"ensure that indie game developers are not hindered or discouraged from pursuing their creative ideas". I am sorry but didn't your own CEO say he doesn't have a creative vision??? And not only that but doesn't one of your own games literally seems to be 1:1 copy of HOLLOW KNIGHT?

If it was copyright, why hasn't Nintendo gone after Yo Kai or Monster Hunter Stories, or SMT/Persona??? They are not claiming to own an entire genre. There is a bunch of monster collecting games on the Switch. Now I am not sure who will win here, but. BUT IF PALWORLD has been using Nintendo/TPC , then they had it coming.

And also seriously. A lot of these people have been sending death threats to Nintendo and TPC. Grow up. You are no better than Nintendo. You're just as bad. Or in fact, WORSE.

@NEStalgia If you want to know more about this patent thing, you should go to the NintendoLife article on this. One user has posted a lot of information that is actually quite interesting.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2024/09/nintendo-and-pokemon-file-lawsuit-against-palworld-developer-pocketpair

@shoeses I would think they have found something incriminating considering they took a nice long while.

@NEStalgia so according to some people in NintendoLife, there are 3 patents Nintendo has regarding Pokemon (20240100432, US11782898B2 and US11782898B2). So these patents deal with software, coding techniques, Data base infrastructure. So its not copyright that TPC is going for but patent. If Palworld is using those patents, then it is a big deal.

I would like to thank @HeadPirate for this information.

@acmiguens ME love popcorn

@Kingleo31 the Japanese games oriented for the western audience like Resident Evil, Sonic, and I guess LAD now would be on Xbox .

And that is a simply true fact whether you like to admit it or not.

@IOI Yeah agreed. Tbh this is on MS.

@Gkobz Forza Horizon 5? Starfield?

So many choices. What will it be.. WHAT WILL IT BE?

But yeah probably ports for PS5.

@mousieone Apollo is RE engine.

Idk about Investigations tho

@Elbow Great Ace Attorney uses MT Framework while Apollo Justice and Investigations use the RE Engine I believe.

@Elbow that and Great Ace Attorney were also made on MT Framework. I suspect they haven’t come because of sales of previous games on Xbox.

And before you point out Apollo Justice and Investigations collections, I would have to believe that Xbox may have paid Capcom to release those games on Xbox.

@Kilamanjaro MT Framework isn’t supported on XSX and PS5. So they can’t make a native version of those. Hence it would be backwards compatible.

@PapaGlitch this is a start. However I can’t say the same for Black Myth Wukong and Enotria. They’re complaining of Xbox not communicating with them hence the releases are indefinitely delayed. But this Capcom thing is a start at least.

And also they may be the ones holding up the FNAF Into the Pit console release as well.

Seems it WAS THE MT FRAMEWORK issue.

@Bobobiwan It very likely is a MT Framework problem considering Fighting Collection 2 wasn’t announced.

And no, it’s not an exclusivity deal from Sony otherwise why is the game on Switch? In fact, that collection got announced in a Nintendo showcase.

There is literally no exclusivity deal in place at all. It’s not hard to understand that. There was no mention of console exclusivity in Sony’s trailer or anything. If it was, it would be mentioned “console exclusive”. And Sony would make it known it is a console exclusive.

The reason it hasn’t come to Xbox is because of the Series S simple as that.

@ExtremeGamer @Titntin yeah I think sales of previous collections on Xbox, might have an impact on this.

@Xbox_Dashboard there’s no PS4 version of this collection either.

This is on Konami

No Xbox One release.

Welp.

Seems Xbox missed out on Capcom Fighting Collection 2.

Yeah, this is starting to seem more of a MT Framework issue then.

It will be 60 fps one day on Xbox.

When Avowed is about to be launched for PS5.

@WhiteRabbit I do hope Astro Bot is a success for PlayStation.

@Fiendish-Beaver It will be announced for PS5 RIGHT before they release it for Xbox.

@IOI you are right my friend. We also have that as well.

If more Xbox first party goes multiplatform, next gen or maybe even this, people would switch to PC or PS5. Less Xbox consoles sold would soon lead to a lack of 3rd party games on Xbox as well.

@WhiteRabbit there is also that which lead to delays like Baldur’s Gate 3 and Wukong.

At least with the PS5, it’s the same specs except one is digital only.

Same with Switch. 3 iterations with slight differences here and there, but the specs in all 3 are the same.

And Nintendo is fully an entertainment company unlike Xbox and PlayStation which are only brands of a bigger corporation (Microsoft and Sony) who indulge mainly in other things with gaming being only one of them. Nintendo is pretty much fully gaming along with other entertainment forms like toys, merchandise, theme parks and movies. Them going multiplatform and PC would kill their console business.

Sony will never bring games to Xbox. They don’t need to. Xbox doesn’t have a big enough user base to give them money. So enough of the talk, Sony won’t put games on Xbox.

If you bring up MLB and Bungie, first of all MLB demanded that the games go multiplatform if Sony wants to keep making them. And Bungie has demanded that their games stay multiplatform during the acquisition.

And Nintendo will NEVER put games on PC or other consoles. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to rethink some more.

@MjJmediablogger There is also that. Finally a voice of reason.

Apparently Sea of Thieves has sold 1 million on PS5.

Yeah... seems this is the trend for MS and Xbox.

@Cakefish Exactly right.

If the hardware isn't selling, then third party developers will skip the hardware. Wii U is a great example. If the Series console isn't gonna sell, then 3rd party games will start to skip it. One of the Phantom Blade Zero developers were right whether you like to admit it or not when he said "Nobody cares about Xbox".

@Tyrant_T103 Exclusives exist because to sell consoles. That is why exclusives exist and that is also why consoles exist.

Why do you think PlayStation and Nintendo outsold Xbox this generation? Exclusive and good games is one reason. That is why they sold a crazy amount of consoles. If you have good exclusives, people will pick up your console. That's why PS4, Switch, and ig PS5 sold a lot of units compared to Xbox consoles.

"Does it harm us that it's also going to be on PlayStation"

Unless you own a PS5, then you benefit from this. If you do not, then it actually does harm you because what is the point of having an Xbox? Don't bring the Game Pass argument because Sea of Thieves and other Xbox games sold incredibly well on PS5 despite the lack of Game Pass. PlayStation users will most likely not mind paying 70 dollars for a good game. If more Xbox games come to PlayStation, then there is no point in buying a Xbox console. There is no reason to buy an Xbox. If you mention Game Pass, you can also get it on PC too. PC exists as well.

And PlayStation ain't bringing any of their heavy hitter games to Xbox.

When they all coming to PS5?

@Zeldorf The new Blade game is gonna come to PS5. Mark my words.

@Fenbops There is no reason for Sony to put games on Xbox. PC will make sense for them rather.

As for Nintendo, just because they put Lego Horizon on Switch doesn't mean much at all.

I can't wait for that new Blade game to come to PS5

@Jenkinss they have to ignore that particularly minor detail ofc.

Imma get a PS5 one day for this game.

Indiana Jones coming to PS5. Knew it. At this point, why bother…

It’s a C for me I guess.

If it is true, then what’s the point of buying an Xbox at this point?

Edit: coming to PS5.

You know if it was a Bethesda game and such, that would be fine.

But this is FORZA. FORZA!!! One of Xbox’s flagship franchises along with Halo and Gears of War.

If Forza Horison 5 is going multiplatform, then I think Xbox is truly done. Bethesda games are one thing but iconic Xbox franchises are another thing.

@dskatter man if I had space in my apartment, I would have snagged a PS5 to be honest.

@Beetlebum91 Xbox just don’t have a big install base. Probably why a lot of Japanese and Asian developers skip the platform.

Yeah they do skip the Switch from time to time (but Switch still gets those types of games) , but that’s mainly due to the Switch not being powerful enough. They’ll certainly most likely port them to the next Nintendo console (providing it is successful).

Besides didn’t that one Phantom Blade Zero developer apparently state no one needs Xbox. That dude isn’t entirely wrong but it was very blunt.

Guys. Sony did not moneyhat this game. This is definitely an optimization issue and especially because of the Series S. If it was Sony moneyhatting , they would make that clear.

It’s already confirmed to be coming to Xbox consoles if you have seen the previous trailers.

@dskatter and another thing is that pretty much those games are all on PC as well.

@InterceptorAlpha Tbh, I kinda get their point but saying that out loud directly is not the right move to make. Honestly they’re not wrong.