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Forza Horizon games have always been at the top end visually, and this is exactly what I expected on the respective consoles.

I guess the top end PC crowd well get native 4K 60FPS and a view bells and whistles as well.

Upscaling is ok but on consoles I find console FSR definitely behind PSSR 2.0 DLSS on switch 2.

I know top end PC FSR is better and I’m sure Helix will be as well.

When all said and done, Xbox is leading in a similar direction really.
Project Helix PC with a console mode for old Xbox games and I probably think not exclusive games, maybe some delays or certain games.

But I think Halo combat evolved and the new gears are still multi-platform day one.
And they are big ones. Along with FH6 with maybe a release 6 months after.

It is no different from when Phil left.
Yes the PR is being put a bit more from a spin angle, with Xbox, but it’s still the same end result.

Unfortunately there is no magical and miracle cure for the Xbox platform.

@IssaBrvndo
That’s another weird thing, in all my gaming I have never had stick drift or a bad controller.

Never ever purchased a third party controller in decades of gaming for any console.
I will stick with my elite 2 controller.

Pragmata and Doom dark ages.
Got some new kit to set up first, else cannot play anything 🤣

@SigmaTheDJ
Just doing my now full download, like you said, cheers.

Done mine, went for the new logo in dashboard.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner
Yep totally get why fellow gamer.
I don’t even think most Xbox studios push the series x really that much.

It’s only mainly Nintendo and Sony that push their consoles as also they only make the game for that one device.
No series s and x, no pc, no cloud streaming. It all takes time and cost on the developer.

Nice touch will do later tonight.

@moodmatcha
It’s a shame really as I think the series x has more. But getting that last extra 15% of power out probably takes time and learning.

I think that one reason Sony went pro with built in PSSR it makes it easier for developers especially now version 2.0 is out and of course the extra horse power.

I do worry as time goes on the series x may get left out a bit, just look at some of percentage sales of new games, even the switch 2 sells more third party like RE9 and Pragmata.

I will say I think the series x has been Xbox’s most unoptimised console from third parties and even Xbox studios.

I think it has more power under the hood but producing for more than just one console and cost and time constraints, the series x advantage has not shined through.

Maybe FH5 and now FH6 are good usage examples of the series x power and probably gears will be.

You can only go so far then you need more power especially if you want to keep very smooth and stable 60FPS.

The pro is currently king of the consoles with this, especially with sharpness and detail since PSSR 2.0.

I’ve become a snob, playing elsewhere off the pro, I see see shimmering and artefact’s
In the graphics especially when moving around. And I don’t like it anymore.

Maybe I’m being a bit spoilt, but the Pro now with PSSR 2.0 really delivers that top quality visual experience, anything else on anything else is becoming sub par to me.

But u think to get any better with current consoles, more power will be needed at some point.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner
Should definitely run better on Pro.
They did a good job with FH5 on Pro.

@dskatter
Just checked, didn’t realise it had full cross save and Xbox to PS5.
How multi platform it’s all getting at Xbox.

That’s a big one sweet heart. 💓

@Ko512
You are spot on, it’s all about the games.
Let’s see what FH6 brings next month.

But yes, long term they need games that draw the gamers and especially the general public.
A, Mario kart, Mario Odyssey, Zelda, Spider man 2 etc.
But of course Xbox studio games.
The only one so far that has proven its worth also on the PS5 is FH5.

Fair play to her for picking all this up and giving it a dam good go, i know it’s her job and probably gets paid very well.
But it seems she’s is having a good go so fair play to her.

Of course I really hope she turns things around and succeeds.

For me it seems all to far gone
The two pillars of consoles are set
With Sony and Nintendo.
Xbox will be PC gaming with Helix, meaning no new Xbox console games as we know it as it will be a PC version on Helix and then if you wish you can switch to console dashboard like series x to play your old last generation Xbox console games, however they have not stated if this be via cloud gaming or native download to the console part of Helix, of course the new PC games will be native download.
Helix will sell a few but not as many or probably half the amount of series s and x.

It’s really a revert back to PC.
I think they will publish games to Sony and Nintendo consoles maybe with some delay or if they can sell enough to justify the port investment. Like FH5 was a very good port investment.

I think they are trying to bolster the Xbox brand but hardware wise it’s really gone, even with Helix as it will be a bit niche.

Software and publishing etc will be their income and possibly in someways game pass.
However the small content and services drop of 5% is a warning shot.
Not matter the PR speak spin says.

None of the above is meant in a negative way, just the way I see it going.

Infinite was great, a new one with modern graphics, different biomes, full weather system.
Open world but with bases and underground caverns, my a type of dungeon system.
Maybe a ship type loot system.

I think infinite had some right ideas, it was just to last generation and limited.

Gameplay was fabulous.

Thumb sticks diagonal across from each other and triggers of the series x Xbox controller are simply the best for me.
The most comfortable controller when playing is the Xbox controller for me.

For example when using a dual sense controller when moving and aiming and using the right trigger to shoot something the right thumb sticks gets pushed down by me, so I end up crouching it’s so annoying.

With the Xbox controller this never happens due to the ergonomics that suit my average hands.

@darylb24
Sorry and I don’t really care being honest, it was just an observation. But no way games like RE9 and Pragmata, very good third party games sell more on series x and s compared to PS5 even with digital, maybe switch 2 possibly.
The percentage gap for physical and also the user bases are vast. To make any digital sales make nowhere near a big enough swing in favour of series x and s.

@Katiecooh
And that’s one reason Xbox are going really PC next generation, so no next generation Xbox console version of new games will be required, it will run the PC version.

Because at some point companies like Capcom will stop supporting the Xbox series consoles because of extremely low sales. Basic Business, cost over profit.

@Coletrain
That’s 2 of us gone 93 for FH6.

@Coletrain
I have it digital, it’s a great game, my sort of game, especially in-between open world type action adventure games. Next one of those will be AC Black Flag Resynced.
Something a bit different and more direct.

Totally off subject UK Pragmata top of sales chart.
79 percent of physical sales were on the PS5, 15 percent on the Switch 2, and six percent on the Xbox Series X.

I know it’s only physical sales, but what are Xbox owners playing, they not dipping into new games anymore.
That is a massive difference.

Well.
FH3 91
FH4 and FH 92.

If FH6 slips to the high 80’s then that’s not good as that is downwards.

I think we are looking at 93 for FH6 the highest one in the series.

I’m picking the new 2026 one.
By a long shot.
360 if I have to pick an older one.
Also reminds me of great memories.

Funny the xbox360 logo looks the worse and poor. But the console was the best ever Xbox have done and been.

Goes to show, you say what you want and play around with logos.
It’s first party games and third party deals and game sponsor ship and advertising rights that count. Xbox had COD and FIFA advertising deals and bundles in those days.

Sony just grabbed it all mainly during the PS4 era and copied the Xbox360, what a turn of events.

Will be more interesting down the line, see if they really start changing things and also keep price point after the PS5 increase, more expensive in the UK now PS5 and the Pro a lot more. Bet they still sell.

I liken Xbox, PS and Nintendo to UK football teams. Some teams have very large loyal followings and only a smaller certain amount and almost no matter what that team does it doesn’t get many more supporters.

@Weebleman
Absolutely next to the new Xbox logo 🤣

@Weebleman
“ I mean, i can make a sticker saying I'm a 6 and half foot, toned model, it doesn't mean its true”

You could make a real full life cut out instead, we would all love to see that over here on Pure Xbox 🤣🤫

@GamingGod
That would be one arrogant company buying another super arrogant ( that spun 51% of its beat up by the South Koreans TV to the Chinese TCL) company to create a mega arrogant company 😂

@Balaam_
Absolutely, it was meant more, that they have the power and money to do what they what.
And let’s hope they use that in the right and meaningful way for Xbox.
Remember we have been through it this generation.

Is it really happening, is one the most richest and powerful companies in the world finally waking up the XBOX.
Let’s really hope so.

Series x is fine as it is the best functionally feature wise over all three.
It’s already top dog there, so it don’t matter what you do.

Sorry team green, improvements are welcome of course, but it won’t shift consoles or brand take up.

There is almost nothing you can do now, the general public have spoken and it won’t change, they are really locked in.
Phill got that comment right he made there, especially now as more time has passed.

Will be interesting as this would also effect decisions regarding exclusivity with any studio purchase.

I mean they could buy all studios and make everything Xbox console and PC exclusive, basically bully the market to your console 😂

Looks good modern and even a nice shade of green.
Things seem to moving a bit more forward in Xbox world.
Will be interesting if they keep the prices where they are in the UK.
Was just shopping on line and had a peak at the prices and now the PS prices have kicked in, it seem a bit over the top price wise jumping that £500 barrier in the mind and £790 for Pro.
Crazy times we live in.

Let’s hope it all comes through and Xbox starts to thrive again and become a main player.

@Millionski
It’s depends to some point on cross generation games next generation. Some say if we think we had a lot of cross generation this generation, next generation cross generation games may last nearly all the next generation.

That means helix should be able to play cross generation series x version or the new PC version.

I know it gets all if and buts, but that will happen, probably for a least the first 3 years of next generation.

@J_Mo_Money
Well I hope they come flocking back to help Xbox become great again and sell more, we sort of do need them back really 😂

Keep some exclusives and some others maybe timed exclusive.

Also just to mention if I was purely in the PS camp with Sony I would like Xbox to be super strong again.
Sony have made many mistakes this generation and keep putting prices up. One thing will make Sony think more is healthy competition.

Well they are keeping that word “XBOX” and that is great to hear.
Let’s hope it’s the start of amazing things to come.
The rest of this year is looking good as it’s games that count.
FH6
Halo
Gears
Maybe Fable.

For me I need an adventure like this.
Day one for me. Will be a totally different and contrasting game to FH6 in May and that’s a good thing.

Keep the options coming Xbox.

@Skinny-Pete
Absolutely the older games were very good.
The parcel force games are not for me. 😂

@Skinny-Pete
You took the words right out of my mouth.

This has come at a great time with what’s being released the rest of this year and probably into 2027 as well.

Great news on GPU price reduction today, I’m not a big COD fan so suits me.
Of late Xbox have been doing things that suit me, so that’s good.

@themightyant
I’m not rushing in, I was coming from the visual purists point of few. It’s good you having both that you do notice the difference, the price is as well 😂.

Great news on GPU price reduction today, I’m not a big COD fan so suits me.
Of late Xbox have been doing things that suit me, so that’s good.

I feel I’m in the need of new Xbox hardware.
When I see what PSSR 2 does with pro, even more so just now. No jaggies or fuzz, movement fizz etc.
I see the series x flagging behind a little in the purists visual picture and movement area.