Good luck with getting Bethesda to move any faster, with games like elder scrolls etc. They are as inefficient and slow as their extremely old game engine.
@mac_da_man They should have left gears with PS5 especially after gears remake going to PS5 so should have gears e day.
They have done damage to Halo remake now, as PS5 players think what’s the point of investing in the Halo remake as they might next release the next main Halo game on PS5.
Should have left gears e day, along with FH6, Halo and Fable. And then next year made the change in exclusives in a more professional thought out way, not a knee jerk reaction, like XBOX executives having doing for the past 5 years.
When any of the big three say this about demand and supply and issues. I go look at some UK suppliers for a while. And guess what they have stock and good amounts.
Don’t get me wrong sometimes on release day or during Covid yes.
I think the issue gamers may have and myself is simple.
If you are investing in a single console we all used to know where we stood with exclusive content and made the choice.
Now we are like do I get a PS5 and hope I get these Xbox games and have the best of both worlds. Or do I need to own an Xbox and a PS to get the best of both worlds.
It’s not a cheap hobby nowadays.
I think they are keeping a few games exclusive to XBOX to keep the fan base a bit happy and game pass subs and hoping some will still pick up Helix.
Well XBOX do somethings right, I’m currently right now playing FH6 top AAA game and highest on meta so far this year and we are nearly early half way through this year.
If they following with a very good Halo remake and an outstanding Gears E Day and Feb 2027 a best ever Fable, then they are going in the right direction.
@Millionski Yep XBOX hardware future is a bit different and I’m definitely not convinced at the moment. I almost think Helix is the middle ground to keep some sort of XBOX hardware alive and maybe even game pass, until they can become just a publisher.
@Millionski @datamonkey It’s as if the gaming industry feel the need or desire to sell us new hardware.
Then moan they make no profit on new hardware for nearly the entire generation.
I still believe they make money on hardware day one and that is why they are so keen to give us new hardware.
Why bother with new hardware if you make no profit. Continue to support existing hardware with more and better games and services and make the profit there.
I think nowadays the industry is very corrupt and full of lies most of the time.
@Schonks I think it was a rumour about PS6 it was on a few sites, not sure. However I bet they are both thinking that. Next gen will be a hard sell though, if the current climate continues.
I say go for Pro specs with PSSR 2.0 as a main stream console, which will bring the cost down maybe to £600 ish.
Diminishing returns are getting so evident and cross generation games don’t help.
I read an article the other day about PS6 that Sony are considering specification reductions to reduce cost.
Why XBOX dress this up with the word innovation, it crap wording.
It means lower the spec to keep the cost down.
Next gen is going to be a very hard sell for both Xbox and PS. We already have great graphics etc and diminishing returns will be very evident and of even more cross generation games than this generation.
For me the PS5 Pro now that PSSR 2.0 is running is about as far as they need to go for the next 5 years at least.
Remember all those extra graphics and textures and detail add to the cost of the game development and time, and as we know that is already in a terrible way.
They won’t go exclusive or maybe a timed exclusive. When you sell 5 million plus with FH5 on PS beating both Sony studios sales for Astro Bot and more recently Ghost of Yotei in sales on a PS console, especially of a game that has already been made for Xbox and PC and the return on investment is massive.
Why would you as now a main publisher and business turn that money down.
They are now a massive publisher that has this probably annoying attachment to XBOX hardware and also maybe game pass that they need to sort of keep alive for now, hence Helix.
I’m just at the beginning and let loose to explore and started some races. I do take my time 🤣
I really hope Asha has taken note of the quality of this game and the 92% score and how well it has been received and the increase UK XBOX console sales by about 12%. And going forward all XBOX studio games are of this top tier quality.
@Millionski Yep it would have been great to have had a series x pro. But for me it’s Sonys own PSSR 2.0 upscaling that has set it apart. Console FSR seems to be terrible for shimmering and artefacts.
@Millionski Yep Sony got going out the gate especially the first 2 years, then they got caught up with that weak year and GAAS and still haven’t totally recovered. About year 3 and 4 of the PS5 is when XBOX could have also had a chance of striking, but they totally missed the chance, with no console marketing and PR and under achieving games. Followed by sort of going multi platform and saying everything is an XBOX.
If ever a trillion dolllar company had a chance of missed opportunity it is Microsoft with XBOX.
Under the right leadership and with the Xbox consoles at the right price and with all those studios to make exclusive games as long as they are good as FH6 92% meta big AAA. And some real marketing and PR.
Well it’s £49.99 to buy the game which is a good price for nowadays. It’s not the £69.99 for wolverine Or £74.99 for Mario kart world.
Don’t need early access anyway. Also will wait for reviews on this one, especially as September is getting stupidly stacked and we not had the Xbox showcase yet.
A lot of games in September will miss out or some will wait for the Christmas price reduction.
No issues at all yet and using quick resume feature. Being honest most of these game issues I never get. The main ones I did get were starfield crashes back in the day.
I think of course Halo and Gears and maybe a few surprises. Some Fable game play and maybe a mention of FH6 first DLC. And of course the PS5 release date. Maybe a small game shadow drop.
Most interesting will be the multi platform stance.
My partners son has a PS5 Pro, last night he rang me as he wanted an Xbox as well, I said why, he replied he had been playing FH6 round his girlfriends on her brothers series x.
After a few minutes, I remembered it was coming to PS5, so of course he is now going to wait.
He is 25 and works and would have a good person to get into the Xbox ecosystem system.
XBOX exclusive games sell consoles and a console sale could sell a game pass, and you missed one last night, well it would have been purchased today, but there you go. UK 🇬🇧
Totally a smart idea and agree from a business strategy, especially if it launches day and date on PS5. There could be a good few million sales on the PS5 especially if it does as well as FH5. And launching away from GTA6 especially on PS5 is the right thing to do. Also PS5 is getting Halo day and date and probably FH6 in September and COD October. It’s a clever business move.
I voted about the same, if exclusives don’t change then not much will really change overall. She has been a good PR so far, but it will be seen through if much doesn’t really change in time.
I agree with most on here XBOX and especially the Xbox360 was built on amazing exclusivity and second and third party exclusives. Also Xbox studio AAA bangers being exclusive.
However I don’t think they will go back to exclusives as I can’t see the new Helix selling enough to enable enough of a return on invest for exclusive XBOX games.
With the xbox360 they sold about 85 million and game development was cheaper then and the Xbox console user base was high.
Price is so important, look at the PS5 sales slump last month, will be interesting to see May sale numbers.
I think they are going to need to change something or next generation could be the biggest flop in history. Don’t forget we will probably also have cross generation most of next generation and diminishing returns will be higher as well.
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Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (June 13-14)
FH6 driving around and doing races.
Waiting for AC black flag remake.
Halo and Gears
Re: Microsoft Has Considered 'Spinning Out Or Restructuring' Xbox, Claims Report
Good luck with getting Bethesda to move any faster, with games like elder scrolls etc. They are as inefficient and slow as their extremely old game engine.
Re: Xbox's 30-Minute Fable Gameplay Is Getting Great Feedback, Aside From Minor Concerns
@Kakun
Let’s have a side bet, wolverine won’t score higher on Meta journalist review score than FH6 at 91%.
Just have a feeling about that game, great game but not just there for 90 or over
About 88%.
By the way I want to be wrong.
Re: The Coalition Reveals Campaign Length & Other New Details For Gears Of War: E-Day
I see the placer download is up for this on my series x.
It’s now loaded and in my Games Group, just teasing me.
Halo is as well.
Re: Xbox's 30-Minute Fable Gameplay Is Getting Great Feedback, Aside From Minor Concerns
@Kakun
You say that but the highest scoring meta game this year so far is FH6 92%
Re: Report: Xbox Set For Major Job Cuts, Studio Closure Or 'Lineup Changes' Could Be Involved
@mac_da_man
They should have left gears with PS5 especially after gears remake going to PS5 so should have gears e day.
They have done damage to Halo remake now, as PS5 players think what’s the point of investing in the Halo remake as they might next release the next main Halo game on PS5.
Should have left gears e day, along with FH6, Halo and Fable. And then next year made the change in exclusives in a more professional thought out way, not a knee jerk reaction, like XBOX executives having doing for the past 5 years.
Re: Poll: Which Was Your Favourite Gaming Event Of The Past Week?
Xbox showcase
PlayStation
Nintendo
Only put the big three main ones.
Xbox pipped it for me over PlayStation.
Nintendo was a distant third, it was not great at all.
Re: Xbox CSO Says Console Demand Is Outstripping Supply Amidst A 'Crisis' For Component Prices
When any of the big three say this about demand and supply and issues.
I go look at some UK suppliers for a while.
And guess what they have stock and good amounts.
Don’t get me wrong sometimes on release day or during Covid yes.
Re: 'This Is The Start Of A Program' - Xbox Exec Addresses Questions Around Exclusivity
I think the issue gamers may have and myself is simple.
If you are investing in a single console we all used to know where we stood with exclusive content and made the choice.
Now we are like do I get a PS5 and hope I get these Xbox games and have the best of both worlds.
Or do I need to own an Xbox and a PS to get the best of both worlds.
It’s not a cheap hobby nowadays.
I think they are keeping a few games exclusive to XBOX to keep the fan base a bit happy and game pass subs and hoping some will still pick up Helix.
Re: Spyro: A Realm Beyond Takes Flight On Xbox Series X|S In Spring 2027
Was getting worried this was Spyro flying as they not mentioned on the ground Spyro action like the older games.
I hope it still has all the traditional ground gameplay, if so can’t wait.
Any one got anymore info.
Re: Senua Brings A 'Different Kind' Of Hellblade Game To Xbox Game Pass In 2027
This is the Senua I wanted from day one and looks like it could be.
I have fingers crossed for super action and fighting all the way through.
Re: Xbox Confirms Its Two New Console Exclusives Are Not 'Timed'
I very much doubt this theory I’m gonna write but.
By putting gears on PS5 do they hope some may come across to Xbox for gears e day.
By putting Halo remake on PS5 are they hoping some may come across to Xbox for the next new main Halo game.
Obviously this doesn’t really apply to Fable.
Re: Xbox Confirms Its Two New Console Exclusives Are Not 'Timed'
Should have gone with Halo as an XBOX exclusive as well and Fable.
Do it or don’t in my opinion.
Re: Xbox Series X25 Limited Edition Console & Controller Announced
Won’t purchase, shame they didn’t go 2tb but I guess that is about cost and giving you choice if you want to spend more to expand the memory.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The Xbox Games Showcase 2026?
I very rarely go an “A” but so much for me this year and next year especially with GPU.
Best of the three showcases in June.
Re: Gears Of War: E-Day Releases October 2026, And It's An Xbox Console Exclusive
Game pass ultimate and also with its new price, really is looking top notch this year and into next.
Playing FH6 now.
Halo
Gears e day
2027
Fable
Clockwork
Spyro
And that’s the few big ones I can remember.
Re: Xbox Games Showcase 2026: Date, Start Times, What To Expect & More
@BIG3
Would be a great surprise and good for PR and also the XBOX fans as a treat.
Re: Xbox Games Showcase 2026: Date, Start Times, What To Expect & More
This should be a fantastic show.
Would be great if Halo release got shadow dropped and was available tonight to XBOX console users and PC.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (June 6-7)
Some FH6 and on the last area of Pragmata.
Re: Ex-Sony, Naughty Dog & Infinity Ward Devs Announce 'Crossfire' For Xbox Series X|S
@Weebleman
And as if by magic 😊
Re: Ex-Sony, Naughty Dog & Infinity Ward Devs Announce 'Crossfire' For Xbox Series X|S
@Weebleman
I’m with you Weebleman.
Don’t bite.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The Summer Game Fest 2026 Showcase?
@Fiendish-Beaver
I was wondering about Stellar Blade Bloodrain as no platforms were announced.
It will be one of two things if it doesn’t come to Xbox or on day one.
Careful investment planning by the company.
Or Sony paying for timed exclusive rights, which may even be contractually linked to the first game.
If it’s Sony which I hope it is not, they are becoming annoying now, as the Cold War is over and there is no need for it now.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The Summer Game Fest 2026 Showcase?
It was an ok show and I did like most of it.
Was great to see level game support for XBOX, even though some like to say companies won’t bother.
Re: Xbox Will 'Innovate' To Reduce The Price Of Project Helix, Suggests Asha Sharma
@NeoRatt
Well let’s see what happens and hopefully it will all move forward well.
Re: Xbox Boss Wants To Create The 'Number One' Gaming Company By 'Resetting The Business'
Well XBOX do somethings right, I’m currently right now playing FH6 top AAA game and highest on meta so far this year and we are nearly early half way through this year.
If they following with a very good Halo remake and an outstanding Gears E Day and Feb 2027 a best ever Fable, then they are going in the right direction.
It’s all about the games.
Re: Xbox Will 'Innovate' To Reduce The Price Of Project Helix, Suggests Asha Sharma
@Millionski
Would that many especially general public really go running towards PC, maybe they would.
Re: 'It's A Tough Topic' - Xbox CEO Shares Her Latest Thoughts On Exclusives
@Millionski
I would like a full 180 and a real Xbox console next generation and totally exclusive, I like those days.
And even if you were just a PS player it would be good competition for Sony and make them work harder for gamers cash.
Re: 'It's A Tough Topic' - Xbox CEO Shares Her Latest Thoughts On Exclusives
@Millionski
Yep XBOX hardware future is a bit different and I’m definitely not convinced at the moment.
I almost think Helix is the middle ground to keep some sort of XBOX hardware alive and maybe even game pass, until they can become just a publisher.
Re: Xbox Will 'Innovate' To Reduce The Price Of Project Helix, Suggests Asha Sharma
@Millionski @datamonkey
It’s as if the gaming industry feel the need or desire to sell us new hardware.
Then moan they make no profit on new hardware for nearly the entire generation.
I still believe they make money on hardware day one and that is why they are so keen to give us new hardware.
Why bother with new hardware if you make no profit. Continue to support existing hardware with more and better games and services and make the profit there.
I think nowadays the industry is very corrupt and full of lies most of the time.
Re: Xbox Will 'Innovate' To Reduce The Price Of Project Helix, Suggests Asha Sharma
@Schonks
I think it was a rumour about PS6 it was on a few sites, not sure.
However I bet they are both thinking that.
Next gen will be a hard sell though, if the current climate continues.
I say go for Pro specs with PSSR 2.0 as a main stream console, which will bring the cost down maybe to £600 ish.
Diminishing returns are getting so evident and cross generation games don’t help.
Re: Xbox Will 'Innovate' To Reduce The Price Of Project Helix, Suggests Asha Sharma
I read an article the other day about PS6 that Sony are considering specification reductions to reduce cost.
Why XBOX dress this up with the word innovation, it crap wording.
It means lower the spec to keep the cost down.
Next gen is going to be a very hard sell for both Xbox and PS. We already have great graphics etc and diminishing returns will be very evident and of even more cross generation games than this generation.
For me the PS5 Pro now that PSSR 2.0 is running is about as far as they need to go for the next 5 years at least.
Remember all those extra graphics and textures and detail add to the cost of the game development and time, and as we know that is already in a terrible way.
Re: 'It's A Tough Topic' - Xbox CEO Shares Her Latest Thoughts On Exclusives
They won’t go exclusive or maybe a timed exclusive.
When you sell 5 million plus with FH5 on PS beating both Sony studios sales for Astro Bot and more recently Ghost of Yotei in sales on a PS console, especially of a game that has already been made for Xbox and PC and the return on investment is massive.
Why would you as now a main publisher and business turn that money down.
They are now a massive publisher that has this probably annoying attachment to XBOX hardware and also maybe game pass that they need to sort of keep alive for now, hence Helix.
Re: Talking Point: What Level Are You In Forza Horizon 6, And How Many Cars Do You Have?
I’m just at the beginning and let loose to explore and started some races.
I do take my time 🤣
I really hope Asha has taken note of the quality of this game and the 92% score and how well it has been received and the increase UK XBOX console sales by about 12%.
And going forward all XBOX studio games are of this top tier quality.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Sales Have Risen In The UK, Partly Thanks To Forza Horizon 6
@Millionski
Yep it would have been great to have had a series x pro.
But for me it’s Sonys own PSSR 2.0 upscaling that has set it apart.
Console FSR seems to be terrible for shimmering and artefacts.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Sales Have Risen In The UK, Partly Thanks To Forza Horizon 6
@Millionski
Yep Sony got going out the gate especially the first 2 years, then they got caught up with that weak year and GAAS and still haven’t totally recovered.
About year 3 and 4 of the PS5 is when XBOX could have also had a chance of striking, but they totally missed the chance, with no console marketing and PR and under achieving games. Followed by sort of going multi platform and saying everything is an XBOX.
If ever a trillion dolllar company had a chance of missed opportunity it is Microsoft with XBOX.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Sales Have Risen In The UK, Partly Thanks To Forza Horizon 6
Under the right leadership and with the Xbox consoles at the right price and with all those studios to make exclusive games as long as they are good as FH6 92% meta big AAA.
And some real marketing and PR.
Then they could lead a full frontal assault. 😊
Re: Xbox Series X|S Sales Have Risen In The UK, Partly Thanks To Forza Horizon 6
Asha have you tuned in and taking notes please 😊
Re: Control Resonant Early Access Is Exclusive To PS5, Even Though It Costs The Same On Xbox
Well it’s £49.99 to buy the game which is a good price for nowadays.
It’s not the £69.99 for wolverine
Or £74.99 for Mario kart world.
Don’t need early access anyway. Also will wait for reviews on this one, especially as September is getting stupidly stacked and we not had the Xbox showcase yet.
A lot of games in September will miss out or some will wait for the Christmas price reduction.
Re: Xbox's CCO Might Have Just Revealed The First-Party Order For Late 2026
That order all makes sense and suits me.
Re: Rayman Legends Retold Set To Release This October, Along With A Free Origins Remaster
Not sure there really is a need for this legends release or remake.
Plays great as it is. Waste of time.
Re: 'Lost 255 Hours Of Progress' - Forza Horizon 6 Players Warn Of Xbox & PC Saving Issue
No issues at all yet and using quick resume feature.
Being honest most of these game issues I never get.
The main ones I did get were starfield crashes back in the day.
Re: 'My Favourite We've Ever Done' - Xbox Employee Hypes Up Gears Of War: E-Day Direct
Just bring it on.
Re: Our Final Predictions For The 2026 Xbox Games Showcase
@Kloppo
He can play it on my series x until he gets it on Pro I guess.
Re: Opinion: Forza Horizon 6 Has Changed My Mind About Quick Resume On Xbox Series X|S
@Kiltedhaggis
Well it seems to do it for me and the games I mentioned.
Re: Opinion: Forza Horizon 6 Has Changed My Mind About Quick Resume On Xbox Series X|S
QR never seems to let me down and being using it with FH6.
I jump from FH6 to Pragmata to Doom in seconds exactly where I left off.
And soon to be adding Halo and AC black flag remake.
Five games back and forth in seconds exactly where I left off.
Series X a feature for gamers and should be kept going forward with Helix.
Makes PS5 and Switch 2 look a bit old fashioned 🤣
Re: Our Final Predictions For The 2026 Xbox Games Showcase
I think of course Halo and Gears and maybe a few surprises.
Some Fable game play and maybe a mention of FH6 first DLC. And of course the PS5 release date.
Maybe a small game shadow drop.
Most interesting will be the multi platform stance.
My partners son has a PS5 Pro, last night he rang me as he wanted an Xbox as well, I said why, he replied he had been playing FH6 round his girlfriends on her brothers series x.
After a few minutes, I remembered it was coming to PS5, so of course he is now going to wait.
He is 25 and works and would have a good person to get into the Xbox ecosystem system.
XBOX exclusive games sell consoles and a console sale could sell a game pass, and you missed one last night, well it would have been purchased today, but there you go.
UK 🇬🇧
Re: Xbox Delays Fable To February 2027, And It's Basically Because Of GTA 6
Totally a smart idea and agree from a business strategy, especially if it launches day and date on PS5. There could be a good few million sales on the PS5 especially if it does as well as FH5.
And launching away from GTA6 especially on PS5 is the right thing to do.
Also PS5 is getting Halo day and date and probably FH6 in September and COD October.
It’s a clever business move.
Re: Xbox Is Gaining Momentum With US Gamers, As Highlighted In New YouGov Report
I voted about the same, if exclusives don’t change then not much will really change overall.
She has been a good PR so far, but it will be seen through if much doesn’t really change in time.
Re: 'We Are Building A Stronger Xbox' - Asha Sharma Updates Employees On Progress In 2026
I agree with most on here XBOX and especially the Xbox360 was built on amazing exclusivity and second and third party exclusives.
Also Xbox studio AAA bangers being exclusive.
However I don’t think they will go back to exclusives as I can’t see the new Helix selling enough to enable enough of a return on invest for exclusive XBOX games.
With the xbox360 they sold about 85 million and game development was cheaper then and the Xbox console user base was high.
Re: Talking Point: Do You Think We'll See PS6 & Project Helix In Action This Summer?
Not chance of seeing either of them.
Price is so important, look at the PS5 sales slump last month, will be interesting to see May sale numbers.
I think they are going to need to change something or next generation could be the biggest flop in history.
Don’t forget we will probably also have cross generation most of next generation and diminishing returns will be higher as well.