A few developers have previously revealed their opinions on the Xbox Series S and its lower specs, and in the case of Metro Exodus dev 4A Games, a "compromise solution" for the console is currently the way forward.
The full details of Metro Exodus' next-gen patch was outlined yesterday and revealed the Xbox Series S version is aiming to hit 1080p with full raytraced reflections, as well as 60 frames per-second. However, as discussed in an interview with Wccftech, chief technical officer, Oleksandr Shyshkovtsov, said that the team has a compromised solution right now, and they're not quite happy with it.
"The RAM is not an issue for us (currently), but GPU performance presents challenges for future titles. Our current renderer is designed for high spatial and temporal resolution (read: 4K @ 60 fps). It is stochastic by nature. Dropping any of those would require us to do more expensive calculations dropping performance even further. We have a compromise solution right now, but I am not satisfied with it yet."
While the extra work may have to be put in, many developers have praised the technology residing within the Xbox Series S. The Falconeer's dev commented on how they were surprised "just how powerful the Series S is", while a Codemasters dev also said that "it's really easy" to develop for. Hopefully 4A Games manages to use the Xbox Series S to its full advantage to deliver some great next-gen experiences.
Are you excited to jump back into Metro Exodus? Let us know in the comments below.
[source wccftech.com]
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I'm not a programmer so I may be missing something but don't most games need to offer <4k resolution? How is this different than making it 1080p for the computer?
Hopefully Series X is the target for all new games. Then, start stripping away features for Series S versions.
Hmmm, the ray-traced effects on consoles was lighting only. Reflections are limited to PC.
Honestly, if I were to have any of the available ray-traced effects, it would be lighting. Reflections are nice and all, but lighting quality is probably one of the biggest factors in how a game looks.
In Control, RT reflections worked well as there are a lot of reflective surfaces, but an outdoor game like Metro Exodus is better suited for lighting.
@RedShirtRod 4A Games tends to target powerful hardware. I mean, I agree with you; but their artistic vision always seems to cater to bleeding edge. The original Metro: 2033 took a while for hardware to catch up to the developers ambition of the time.
I guess, to them, the Series S doesn't mesh well with their desired hardware profile - despite the fact that on PC you can still drop resolutions and graphical features to meet your hardware needs (even on Metro games).
Microsoft should have never made a series s
And just made a disc less Series x for £360 like Sony did with PS5.
Microsoft have no idea of late the same with gamepass, good old games but nothing really new.
February the 24th 2021 will go down in gaming history for me. First time since the original xbox I will not have any Xbox online and no more GPU and no Xbox console, will sell my Series X. RRP.
I will stick with Nintendo Switch and PS5.
It’s a sad time really but Microsoft and Xbox have nothing to offer me now.
Think about that over 20 years of Xbox gaming coming to an end.
Well done Microsoft.
I bought my xbox series s to compliment my PS5, so this isn't a huge shock or issue. I've never really been a massive fan of the xbox exclusive games, that's where PLaystation have trumped it. I do love that the xbox consoles have been backward compatible though, and that's basically why I bought one. So I could play all those games that my PS4/PS5 couldn't, like Red Dead Redemption, Mass Effect (originals, the remake/remastered version will obviously be PS5 compatible), Splinter cell games and older Elder Scrolls games.
Couple that with GamePass, the ability to play next gen games, even at a lower performance and I think it's great value for money.
It’s going to become an issue as the generation goes on, especially for MS first party devs who have to deliver on both consoles. While the Series S is great for the price I feel Sony’s approach is better with the digital PS5. Devs are not split between 2 sets of hardware, saving both time and money.
@Dezzy70 you couldn't be more wrong and your profile pic says it all. This is some pretty weak console war propaganda. Happy you are excited for your PS5. But, Game Pass is proving to be very successful and consumer friendly. You will have "no more GPU"?! That'll make gaming difficult for you lol.
@Dezzy70 I’d keep the series X my dude. I understand it’s a bit barren right now with releases but games will come. I have even cancelled GPU like you as there’s nothing on the horizon for now but even if it’s just sitting there what harms it doing?
@RedShirtRod
It's not different in terms of making it. They're just saying they don't know if it will run at 60fps like it will on the Series X. Which is obviously a problem, if the 2 consoles are trying to provide a similar experience.
It sounds like it's just extra work to get it working on the series S which is no different than the extra work to get it to work on different PC settings no?
@Dezzy Lol why is there a Dezzy70 commenting with a Spiderman logo and now a Dezzy with a Mario? Nice to have a burner account huh? Sad
s/ I'm guessing future Metro games wont support non "4k" graphics cards then
@GamingFan4Lyf That makes sense. Just seems weird that game developers complain that a lower quality console is going to have lower quality of games. That should be the expectation of anyone buying the Series S. Allow people to play games that can't afford the higher end platforms.
@Trmn8r GPU = Game Pass Ultimate
@Jacko11 You are correct. I still like to think of it as him not wanting to play games with a GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) instead
@Trmn8r
GPU Game Pass Ultimate.
Yes it is good value for money GPU but when you have owned every Xbox console since day one. They are just old games that you have already played. And small indie games I have no interest.
Xbox and game pass, equals good old games for good value.
I prefer to spend a bit on more Switch and PS5 for new games.
People can't seem to make up their minds about these new consoles, it's either OMG or We're Doomed! Oh well, you can't even buy one anyway...
@Dezzy70 Every Microsoft game launches on Game Pass day one and they just bought a ton of new devs (including Bethesda), keep trying though. Many 3rd party devs games launch on Game Pass as well as games that have only been out for short periods. Dirt 5 being a current example. They are remedying the lack of first party titles this generation. Good old and current games for great value. Especially, with Sony tacking on an extra $10 for their 1st party titles.
@Trmn8r
Well when game pass gets some new AAA big hitters, only confirm so far this year Halo then I might wake up.
Maybe the gamepass of the future in say 2 years time will be worth it to me.
@Trmn8r
No idea. That's not me. I've had this account name with NLife for a decade. Those other accounts are new.
@Dezzy Lol, just a funny coincidence. Maybe you have your own fan then.
@Dezzy70 That's a much more fair statement from you. Though, there has to be some other big hitters this year that are just not announced yet. They couldn't have just planned for Halo to last 2 years. I think Starfield could be coming this year. But, I think 2022 will be insane and you will really see all these company acquisitions output come to fruition then. Sadly, this launch has been pretty weak for both consoles. I know COVID stuff played a big role in development on both sides.
@Trmn8r
I try to be fair. Remember I come from the most amazing glory days of Xbox, the Xbox 360 when games from Microsoft and associates came thick and fast and many AAA exclusive titles.
The Xbox one was ok at times and had some great moments.
But with the series x so far out all three companies games wise they are well under prepared.
We shall see what fall brings, but they should have had say three big titles to role out this year.
Say day of release, then June, then fall.
Anyone can say what they like about Sony at least they are bringing the games so far, even if some are on PS4 as well. Sack boy, spider man Miles, Demon soles, Astro Bots. To come with release dates announced Returnal, Ratchet and Clank, Kena first half of this year. All new games.
The first year of the Switch was very very good as well.
I’m just a bit disappointed in Microsoft, so much money and it seems like they had not planned or prepared very well for year one at all games wise.
Though the console itself has the power and the form factor, the look of it, size etc is excellent.
I think they could have done better controller wise, the duel sense when used correctly, like in Astro bots is a great bit of kit.
@Dezzy70 Would just like to name drop all the games I’m about to mention that will be available on GamePass day one. Halo Infinite, Hellblade 2, Fable, Forza Motorsport 8/Horizon 5, Avowed, Everwild, Scorn, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2, New Perfect Dark, MS Flight Simulator 2021, State of Decay 3, Starfield, Elder Scrolls VI, Gears 6, Indiana Jones and possibly others I’ve not mentioned.
I know most of those, apart from Halo Infinite and MS Flight Simulator 2021, will not be releasing anytime soon but I’d say you’d have many more games to look forward to playing on the Series X than the PS5 but if your content on with just GoW Ragnarok, GT7, Ratchet and Clank and Returnal than I’m happy for you but that’s all you’ll have to look forward to for now.
I’d say right now MS and Xbox are in a much better position by providing a more powerful hardware with great features like Auto HDR, enhanced BC games, Quick Resume etc. As well as bringing a lot more games than the PS5, which as it stands is the weaker hardware with much fewer confirmed games.
@MaccaMUFC
That’s Microsoft, what I mean by that is.
A lovely list of games.
No release dates, when we see them and get them I might take notice.
And when we see the quality of the games I might take notice. Let’s hope they are not AA game pass stuff.
As for more powerful on paper yes, let’s see the games, because I’m sure a Sony Studio game on the PS5 will lead the way at some point this generation graphically and you know it will.
It’s all Microsoft brain wash, with promises, promises. A company that did not release one new game for the series x. And messed up Halo after over 5 years in development.
A dam joke of a business, especially how rich they are.
Enjoy your collection of old and older games on game pass. You are all getting sucked in.
I’m off now to play, sack boy, Demon soles, spider man miles, Astro bots.
And have confirmed realese dates for
Returnal, Kena, Ratchet and Clank.
And that’s just up until June 2021
Also on great dual sense controller.
Honestly what descent new games do you have not one really. Nothing at all exclusive.
@MaccaMUFC that’s a pretty disingenuous post. If you really think PlayStation is only releasing
“GoW Ragnarok, GT7, Ratchet and Clank and Returnal” in the same timeframe as titles like “Fable, Avowed, Everwild, New Perfect Dark, State of Decay 3, Starfield, Elder Scrolls VI & Gears 6” then you really are a blind fanboy. Which I don’t think you are. Don’t be that guy!
Look I know this is an Xbox site but credit where it’s due, Sony has a steady stream of first and third party exclusive titles coming out (and has done for years) Microsoft is playing catch up (since Mattrick dissolved studios) and none of these are likely to launch this year. Even Nintendo seems to launch more great first party games than Microsoft right now and everyone complains about their slow rate of first party launches (excited for the Direct today, finally).
I have little doubt that once it starts flowing there will be a some great new first party titles on Game Pass and these will start coming more regularly, but for now it is pretty barren and has been for a while. That’s not to say Game Pass isn’t great, it is to me, but it’s not for everyone.
@Dezzy70 I understand your frustration, if basically all you play is new AAA titles and you are lucky enough to have all platforms then perhaps Xbox & Game Pass isn’t for you right now. I hope that changes in future.
For me I love it, those “small indie” titles you mention you’re not interested in are, to me, often filled with more invention than the AAA titles and there’s always more games I’m interested in than I can play. My biggest gripe with GamePass is that it makes my backlog unmanageable and ever expanding. (#2 is lack of new great first party exclusives)
Though I agree mediocrity like The Medium is not the answer in my book.
Regardless enjoy gaming wherever you play everyone.
@themightyant
Looking forward to Nintendo Direct as well today.
Hopefully they will have some good stuff.
My frustration for Microsoft comes from, I remember the Xbox 360 days the glory days of Xbox. Since then and definitely now currently, they are nothing compared to those days.
I will leave game pass end of February 2021 and who knows maybe join again when some quality AAA titles turn up someday.
I have lack of trust for Microsoft and anything they do especially after the Halo disaster, they have broke the Xbox360 days, the time I adored and admired Xbox.
If developers can work their magic getting Doom 2 to run on the Switch there is no reason they can;t do the same for the XSS
This game is also on PC where it needs to support multiple resolutions, why on earth does their renderer need to be so fixed on 4k res?
@Dezzy70 I agree if you’ve had GPU for awhile and played everything it had to offer you that you see no reason to continue paying past February because the next big release won’t be till the summer with MS Flight Simulator but to say it has no new games? The Medium only released 3 weeks ago, granted it’s not a AAA game but rather AA, it’s still a recent release and sometimes new indie games release day one.
Aside from Demon’s Souls (which is a remake of an old PS3 game) and Astro’s Playroom, the rest can be played on PS4. Miles Morales is more of a big DLC for Spider-Man and Kena isn’t a PlayStation exclusive it’s also on PC. If your big on platformers then sure the PS5 is great for now.
@themightyant While it’s true I’ve always favoured Xbox since the very beginning, I’m no fanboy. I’ve bought PS3s and PS4s before for it’s exclusives and I’m planning on getting a PS5 by the end of this year. They do have games that are system sellers, I’ve yet to play TLoU Part 2 and GoT, also yet to finish Days Gone and Horizon Zero Dawn as well as play the games that are now on PS5. I know PS5 will eventually be announcing more games but I was saying as it stands right now Xbox has a lot more confirmed games despite many of them not releasing this year.
@MaccaMUFC
Confirmation of something is nothing to me.
Bring the release dates
Bring the AAA Quality hitters
Bring the new games.
So far Halo fall 2021 amd that’s it all year for AAA.
yes sack boy and Miles are on PS4 as well,
But at least they are new games here and now for PS5 as well.
Returnal April 2021
Ratchet and Clank June 2021
Kena, PC as well, fair enough but still PS5.
And we have the second half of the year to go yet from Sony.
So what are Xbox doing, looking at my PlayStation list above of games released since PS5 and release dates given for first half of this year.
Microsoft have nothing Halo 2021 hopefully so far. Flight simulator very niche, we know that.
They are selling a new generation console on old game that are cheap using game pass.
It’s as simple as that.
And had an unlimited amount of stock for both consoles been available world wide.
It would be a very easy 2:1 to PS5.
They are slowly pulling away already.
People see through Microsoft now and where the AAA games are at.
Even Nintendo produce more AAA than Microsoft.
@MaccaMUFC I don't think you are a fanboy, I said as much, just that what you were saying was biased. I worded it poorly/aggressively though, apologies.
Here is a list of all currently announced games for next gen. I make it about 35 exclusives announced each, hardly " Xbox has a lot more confirmed games"
https://www.theverge.com/21538464/ps5-xbox-series-x-launch-games-list-new-release-holiday-2020-2021
Regardless "announced" games is a pretty useless metric if we are going to include games like Elder Scrolls VI, Avowed, Perfect Dark, Fable that look more likely to be 2022 or 2023+. Hell i'll eat my sock if Elder Scrolls VI is released before 2024 they've got Starfield first which we've only seen the logo and a CG teaser for.
Honestly, as an Xbox fan, I think Microsoft were a couple of years too slow to respond hence why they don't seem to have a line up of first party games for the first year of the Xbox Series X|S. It'll come good in time.
The point @Dezzy70 initially made, that I was feeding off, is that there just isn't a reason for him to want to stay on Game Pass right now as it doesn't have the games he wants to play (AAA exclusives). I understand that, it's an entirely valid position if that is what you like. Even though WE feel differently as Game Pass has plenty of games we want to play. Peace.
@themightyant
Peace fellow gamers.
It’s all horses for courses.
Shall be watching the Nintendo Direct tonight 10pm, to see what they have for this year.
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