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MaccaMUFC

@ThanosReXXX The C9 is no doubt the best gaming TV for this gen and the next but the burn-in issue is still a real risk no matter how many countermeasures it has, even LG say its a possibility but they have to say that to cover their own arses. The C9 has only been out over a year so it’s still too early to say it doesn’t suffer any problems, for all we know problems such as image retention and faded pixels may arise in the next year or so.

I watch a lot of TV that have static logos on-screen like Sky Sports News, football, F1, boxing, UFC etc as well as playing games that have static HUDs so I know if I bought a C9 I’m going to have problems within the first 2 or 3 years, especially the amount the time the TV will be used on a daily basis.

MaccaMUFC

BlueOcean

MaccaMUFC wrote:

The C9 has only been out over a year so it’s still too early to say it doesn’t suffer any problems, for all we know problems such as image retention and faded pixels may arise in the next year or so.

The C9 actually uses C8 panels with better hardware and better anti-image-retention protection. I haven't heard many people complaining about C8 or C7 on the TV forums that I've read and C9 is better protected.

BlueOcean

ThanosReXXX

@MaccaMUFC No, it's not a risk, it's a minor issue that you can prevent and/or limit by using the settings specially intended for that purpose. Mind you: I'm not saying that it CAN'T happen, but I actually AM saying that it doesn't NEED to, and that it definitely shouldn't be the single most important reason for not getting an OLED or QLED screen, if that is the only real con and the pros are SO much more important than that, ESPECIALLY when it comes to gaming.

The people that test these screens, of which Digital Foundry is only one source (albeit a VERY trustworthy one), also take this into account, and STILL put LG screens at the top of their list regardless, so that alone should tell you enough.

I'm also talking from experience, because I still have an old Panasonic Viera plasma TV, and if you want to talk about actual screen burn-in, then those screens, regardless of how good they are, especially in deep blacks, are FAR worse with that phenomenon than any current gen screen, so all in all, it's a minor issue, that should not be on a list of cons. (and most reviewers also don't do that, as shown in the example of the latest Digital Foundry review, that @BlueOcean posted.)

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'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

Xbox Gamertag: ThanosReXXX

ThanosReXXX

@MaccaMUFC Here's some useful and objective information on the topic, from various sources, including LG themselves (and do take note of all the positives in those articles):

https://www.lg.com/us/experience-tvs/oled-tv/reliability
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/oled-screen-burn-in-what-you-need...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2018/12/04/oled-scree...

'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

Xbox Gamertag: ThanosReXXX

ThanosReXXX

@Thretosix Fair enough, in and of itself, and my reactions to you so far have not been a slight towards either Sony or you, but besides that, the facts obviously remain. As for the burn-in risk: that's just too early to tell on the one hand, but on the other hand, the previous models of LG showed little to no burn-in over their lifetime, albeit with normal use, and since then, the firmware and the hardware has been severely upgraded with all kinds of counter measures specifically tailored to that problem, as also explained in the links and videos I last posted.

So, with that in mind, I strongly believe that a potential, but definitely not certain chance of burn-in should never be on a list of reasons not to buy a certain brand or type of TV.

As for gaming on HD/4K TVs in general: I'm also an older than average gamer, and to me, my Panasonic Viera still works fine, and the image looks pretty darn good, but I do know that with a newer screen, it's better, and it does look even sharper and/or cleaner, but personally, I wouldn't be able to discern a difference in latency/reaction time or whatever, so we're pretty much on the same page there.

But having said that, even though I can't SEE it, I do know that things like that matter for gaming, so it only seems logical to me, to take that into account, regardless of whether or not I can personally detect it.

'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

Xbox Gamertag: ThanosReXXX

Nexozi

@BlueOcean I haven't pulled the trigger yet. Jumping back and forth between the C9 and the 48" CX. The room is quite small and the 48" will fit on a desk I have nicely. But if I get the bigger C9 then I need to totally rearrange everything.

One of the ppl on youtube was testing a Sony xh90 / x900h and it died after a week. Quantum I think it was the name of the channel.

Also I heard that Samsung have released a patch for the Q90T that fixes the inverse ghosting and blacks appearing green. Though would wait for some videos to go up on YouTube that proves it.

Nexozi

BlueOcean

@Nexozi OK ☺️. C9 is so awesome I needed to replay some games 😂.

Best,

BlueOcean

sixrings

Be super careful with the new Samsung tv's. My 1 year old tapped the screen with a dinky car. I swear you can't even see the crack by the naked eye. It's ridiculous how slight it is but the tv is all screwed up now. There's lines everywhere and weird colours. The tv is too thin I think. Now I'm back to my old 1080 Sony.

sixrings

Dezzy70

I have a Samsung q90r 65 inch.
Have had Oleds before including C9
Which is a stunning tv.
However the Samsung being QLED
Pushes out 1200 nits for HDR and makes
The HDR brightness pop and stand out more compared to OLED at around 700 nits.
The picture evening in SDR seems brighter and more realistic once the tv is set correctly.
It only has one hdmi port that can run VRR and 4K 120hz. Which I have VRR running on the Xbox one x. Cannot try the 4K 120hz yet will have to wait until next gen. have tried 1440p at 120hz and it seems ok.

Dezzy70

MaccaMUFC

@Dezzy70 That’s the TV I want next year, the 65” Q90R but I think it will be discontinued by then. I’d get the 65” Q90T instead if its £2,000 by next year.

MaccaMUFC

Dezzy70

@MaccaMUFC
Just by reviews not my own experience go for the q90r Over the q90t.
The q90r has more dimming zones
And a bit more punch by all accounts.
The rest is the same.

Dezzy70

MaccaMUFC

@Dezzy70 Yeah I read about the q90r having more dimming zones and being puncher than the q90t. I just hope the q90r is still available to buy this time next year, if not then the q90t will have to do.

MaccaMUFC

Jaxx420

I just upgraded from a Bravia to an LG CX and the difference is outstanding. I am not well-versed on TV tech by any stretch of the imagination but as far as i AM aware of things, burn-in on OLED is down mostly to overuse of static images ie leaving things on pause for excessive lengths, and the onset can be prevented by settings that have been introduced and some common sense with usage. Like don't leave a program or game on pause and go to the pub.

Jaxx420

Grot

I am far, far, far from a TV junkie. Reading through the first few posts here, I was unfamiliar with quite a few of the concepts that were being discussed, so keep that in mind with my perspective here.

I was perfectly happy with an old Sharp LED 1080p model that I’ve had for a while, and I had an LG Plasma 1080p for a long time before that. The Sharp finally gave up on me so I went to get a new TV, with price being a pretty important factor given current events. I also wanted a dumb TV - I loved how snappy and responsive my LG was (also a dumb TV), and absolutely hated slogging through the menus to do anything on the Sharp. My brother is a TV junkie and swears by Samsung, but I noticed his TV was nearly as slow to respond as my Sharp. He has a relatively new, 65” curved QLED model (not sure what year or exact model).

The only dumb TV on the market that I could find was a brand I’d never heard of called Sceptre. It’s very basic. But, I decided to try and tune it as best as I could - I understand brightness, contrast, color temperature, etc. I think it looks fantastic, honestly. There is great detail in dark areas, the brights don’t look washed out. Things look fantastic in motion. I’ve played some more realistic games like Uncharted, as well as some bright and colorful games like Sea of Thieves and Super Mario Odyssey. It’s handled all styles of games really well, very little motion blur (it has a motion smoothing option but I’m not a fan - although it doesn’t add any noticeable input latency).

It’s not going to compete with the advanced features of some of the big name brands like LG, Samsung, and Sony. But I gotta say, for $225 it’s a very, very good budget 55” 4K HDR set. If you’re looking for a second set, or a cheap replacement until we’re on more solid economical footing, I think it’s a solid set.

Grot

HotGoomba___Rebrand

TCL makes good TVs for a cheap price ($300 for a big screen 4k) and they are a quailty brand

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Senua

Let’s bring some heat on this thread...compile a list of good 120hz TVs and monitors for next gen.

Senua

Nexozi

I pulled the trigger and got myself a CX 48", getting delivered on Friday.

@Z3u5000 The list of TVs that I know of that have HDMI 2.1 or 2.1 features.

Samsung:
Q95T
Q90T
Only 1 HDMI port.

Sony:
XH90
Firmware update at some point.

LG:
CX
C9
4 HDMI 2.1 ports

Nexozi

MaccaMUFC

@Nexozi Excellent choice with the CX but only a 48”? That would be far too small for me but it must be enough for you so hope you enjoy it. I’m looking at getting the Q95T 65” sometime next year or maybe one from the 2021 range depending on how it compares to this year’s line-up.

MaccaMUFC

Nexozi

@MaccaMUFC Thanks, yea it's big enough for me. As it's not my main TV, it's going into my office / gaming room. So won't be sitting too far from the screen. I would be sitting too close for a 55". I have a Samsung 8 series in the living room. If it was going into the living room (and I got to use it😂) I'd def be going for a big Q95T. It's def the best for bright rooms.

Nexozi

Senua

I hope Samsung releases their next generation Quantum OLED TVs since microLED panels ain’t getting cheap anytime soon. Also why do they provide only 1 HDMI 2.1 port?

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