@TeiGekiLord Sorry, but you're overinterpreting things. I'm not rewriting history, I haven't said people were not saying that sort of stuff, many were. Neither I'm going into the details about why people are relieved, I'm sure many are just relieved out of "in your face, Sony" (which is wrong and sad, really), others simply are happy they might still be able to play certain games. Regardless of what people's reasons are, I'm sure most will fill in the latter category, and I feel this is a very natural reaction. The comment is made in reply to the other user messages and the context of this piece of news, let's not generalise, but I'm gonna try to clarify my position, so hopefully it's not misleading.

Now, that said, people will then split based on a variety of opinions, both good and bad. There is absolutely no doubt there are plenty of the "bad" on the Xbox community side; my point is Fraser mentioned earlier that "it wasn't fair to tar everybody with that same brush" (the brush of "foaming at the mouth" and so on) and I don't think it's fair to come in and make those sort of statements. I don't think a few people "foaming at the mouth" in the various pages necessarily represent the whole community, and even if they did; my main point is that I don't believe this article is written in a particularly incediary kind of way in this sense. Therefore, I don't understand why certain people have decided to sign up on the page yesterday to start throwing these negative general comments and picking fights with various people.

Now, if you want to "put me in the same room" as the "foaming" people and the "rewriting history" kind of people, be my guest. I truly don't mind, you are entitled to your opinions regardless of how accurate or not they are (and that is a different debate again); but I personally think your generalisation of "Xbox gamers" isn't fair, nor necessarily right either. Same applies to any other "faction" in these pointless console wars things.

@PSDeckSwitchOwner Of course for those people (i.e. Xbox players/fans or whatever you wanna call it) the Bethesda and so aquisition was fine. They knew it was not going to lock any game out of their ecosystem.

You're reading in between lines when there is nothing to read. The article doesn't talk about Sony or MS and whether it's good or bad for them to buy other studios/publishers or whatever. It is also not discussing whether this is good or bad for industry; it's just saying that Xbox players are relieved and they should be cause Sony not buying these people means that, in principle, no FromSoftware games should be made exclusive. So yeah, people are happy that it looks like they're gonna be able to still play games they like in their console; is that really that surprising or evil? (I'm sure the same could be said about PS community if the ABK deal hadn't come through, regardless of what the reality of Xbox and exclusive games is at the moment) People not feeling excluded are relieved and happy, it's basic human nature.

I think you clearly have strong opinions about this kinda stuff and you are very much entitled to that, but you clearly came into this thread wanting to stir the plot and create some negative environment, essentially looking for a "fight".

Personally, in my view you're more than welcome to create healthy debate on topics on the periphery of this piece of news (e.g. is this good for industry whatever), but I find it quite sad to see people act in this sort of way, seeking conflict.

Man, I miss the days when the gaming community wasn't so stuck in pointless conflict, rudeness and brand brainwashing (I'm not directing that at you personally, just speaking generally)

Hey all more FFXIV for me and also Harold Halibut. Quite liking the slow pace and wholesomeness of the latter!!

Yeah, interesting the Purexbox review, but all opinions are valid. The 3 gaming sitesI follow in Spain, two have given a 9/10 and 87/100. One still pending, but overall it seems pretty good generally.

@Deckard85 Yeah, agree hope to see you around in Eorzea. I've been listening to the music on YouTube while working too xD, even gave a try to a couple of "lofi" mixes that were pretty good.

Pity I didn't find the time to try Humankind, but oh well. There's too many games to try. Will go to the list and we'll see in the future.

@Deckard85 Yeah, I feel the same about FF. I always say "X" was the last great one for me. Many people love XII, but I just couldn't get into it (and left it 1/3 into the game ish), then XIII had some good things, but nowhere near the level of the "classics". Can't say about XV and XVI cause I haven't played them yet (XV has been collecting dust on a shelf in my gaming room for the last 1+ year -.-U)

Anyway, on FXIV I'm a white mage too!! for some reason I love healing people, but yeah the "solo" part is a bit less involved. It's essentially "stoning" enemies right? haha I got an AoE now too, which is cool. In the long run, I might go with tank too, I like the idea, but got a bit worried about having too much of a "lead" role from the beginning.

I was on the free trial until a couple of days back, I see myself playing the game in the long run so decided to invest and get the full version to lift some of the limitations that were starting to bother me (e.g. gil limit, market board, socials) At the end of the day, here in the UK the subcription is like the price of a pint and a half in the pub, so it's not really that much in the whole scheme of things.

@Deckard85 Nice! feel the same, I'm starting to understand why some people keep saying is the best FF in the last 10+ years and apparently it only gets better. I agree with music and world building! beautiful world, I unlocked the "sighseeing log" the other day and I'm excited to complete it.

I think I'm close ish to completing MSQ chain for the base game. What class did you go for?

I'm finishing up persona 3 reload and I started Final Fantasy XIV and I'm finding myself enjoying it quite a lot. So, probably will just carry on with those two for the rest of the weekend. Anybody else playing ffxiv on Xbox? just curious!

@somnambulance Yeah you're quite right actually there is a difference indeed. Also, I think some new voices are desperately needed too. Anyway, like you said I guess we'll see how the upcoming releases do. I've heard good things on Avowed so far.

@somnambulance Yeah...could very easily be the kind of thing that becomes the "standard meme" to use everytime a new mixed reviewed game releases U-.-

To be honest, I don't know what to make of this guy. Cause I respect the fact that an individual gamer can love a game that is generally seen as bad (and oh boy I've been there before xD) But I feel that when you're in a position such as Phil's, you should be a bit more careful about voicing this sort of opinions and the wording of it. Reason being a lot of people will hear him and take that as the opinion of Xbox (which arguably is, to a certain extent in like "operational" and "image" kinda ways) instead of his opinion as an individual gamer. I don't know, but yeah, I agree this sort of things could definitely com back to haunt you xD.

@Dalamar73 Fair, I feel there is a valid argument there and also, like I think you suggest, around "should Xbox have positioned themselves as close to it as they seemed to have done? for image, MK purposes etc." (e.g. saying these things about "game of the year" and then getting these sort of reviews projects a bad image on Xbox by association).

That said, my core point is, these guys are their own studio (dev. + pub), my view is that QC/QA and delivering within reasonable expectations is their responsibility first and before anybody elses.

Now, as said above, has Xbox still "dropped the ball" from an image point of view etc.? Yes, I agree, but I also think this is a very different case to, let's say Redfall in terms of the "finger pointing"

@MjJmediablogger Fair, but this isn't a first party release is it? correct me if I'm wrong anybody, but these guys are their own independent studio. My understanding was that, yes, MS supported/assisted with some parts of the developement via ID@Xbox program and you name it, but I'm interpreting your message as treating it as a first party. I've actually seen other people in other sites say it directly and I don't quite understand it.

Don't get me wrong, I think there's enough to critisise about Xbox releases in the last whatever time, but let's allocate blame where it belongs. I personally, don't feel it's reasonable to say this one is Xbox's "fault", as fashionable as that seems to be nowadays.

Take your time fellas, give us some good info when you're ready.

@Banjo- Yeah, they're pretty cool stuff, right? this was another one of those series that I was aware of, but didn't really gave a try until quite late in my "gaming career". Started with P5 a couple of years back now, played P4G on GP last year and on P3R now in GP too. Yeah, got the DLC downloaded, altough I've heard people say mixed stuff about it. Anyway, I'll try for myself soon, I'm 60+ hours into the game and some pretty shocking stuff just happened, I think I'm on the last couple of months of the game.

Battlefield tactics is a genre that is hit and miss for me, sometimes I like, sometimes I don't (e.g. tried XCOM but for some reason didn't click, but recently completed Mario Rabbids 2 and I enjoyed it, I can't quite say why). Maybe someday will give Tactica a try, but don't know, there too much to play and I got too little time nowadays. I know there's a number of spin offs (e.g. strikers), but haven't quite found the time to play any really.

I thought this was a really good price so went ahead and got it. Nice surprise.

Wow, this is surprising. I think I might just go and get it tonight. Cool news.

@Banjo- Thanks for the recommendation, it's definitely on the list, just need to get to it, but I'm kinda feeling excited about it now. So, I might actually start it right after I complete Persona 3; that, however, with my "busy dad schedule" can take a few weeks -.-U

I have never played the Banjo-Kazooie games, it's one of those I couldn't play backl in the day cause I didn't have the right console and now it's on the ever growing backlog of things to play.

I gave money on kickstarter for this one and don't regret it, game was decent, I wouldn't say great. Generally ok with the "impossible lair" one too, although I had some doubts too. Still, as a fan of platforming games, I enjoyed it, so would recommend people who enjoy this genre and hasn't played it before to give it a try if reasonably priced.

I'm unsure, but maybe I'll play the remaster at some point too.

Unless, I want to play on the go I buy them on Xbox, they run better is the simple thing. That said, Switch is still awesome for the first party stuff and occasionally I'll get some third party stuff in there, sometimes is just timing (e.g. getting a game I plan to play on a holiday away from home kinda thing), but it's rare ish.

Hearing good things about the wireless headset previous and new, that's good an interesting. I originally bough a wired Xbox headset and I found audio quality was atrocious to say the least; I saw the wireless had better reviews, but I was already kinda discouraged about trying another MS xbox headset.

I ended up returning the xbox headset and just got a Razer Blackshark V2 wired, which I find to be extremely comfy and excellent for its price. Still the one I use, even at work on calls cause I can wear it all day.

It's been years since I stopped playing WoW and every now and then I feel like I wanna jump back into something "similar",but got relatively little time to game nowadays, so not sure.

So, yeah maybe will give this a try, not sure.

I only played 1 to 3 and it was a long time ago, can't say I remember much about them. Played 1 again recently and I want to play them all, so will get to these in the end, someday! That said, interesting to see what people got to say about these, I've heard such mixed opinions.

Definitely gonna buy "V". It's the only one of what I can the classics (meaning from X and before) that I haven't played, so kinda curious to play.

@Tasuki exactly, always thought Ghost would be an interesting addition to the universe. I would love to see something in the lines of that.

Looks really nice, let's hope the story and gameplay are up to the same level that the nice visuals.

One FYI fellas, Immortals of Aveum is a solid game, can be played with K&M like It says above with PC mappings but for some reason the furies aren't mapped (a collection of types of spell) so it's not only limited but also flawed atm.

Played on PS a couple of years back, decent game, nothing marvellous but entertaining and relaxed.

Space marine 1 on Xbox One / series please?

Said it on the other article, at this price and many games going to PC, I think the way forward for me it's PC + Nintendo if this pricing trend continues.

I like Playstation, I had all from psx to 4, but at this price and many games making it tonpc, I don't see qhy I would get this over a decent pc for the same or a bit more.

@Markatron84 Banjo shared a good review, so worth having a quick read.

I just had a go at comparing buttons in both (still got the drifty controller here) and this is my personal view, but I'd say:

• Face buttons (i.e. ABXY) I'd say they're a bit clickier, perhaps very slightly smaller in size.
• Again, I'd say the same for RB and LB, both clickier in my opinion. Triggers feel virtually the same.
• d-pad is an actual "cross" shape, so to me that is a big plus, cause I never liked that weird "cross in a circle thing" that the standard Xbox controller has. It feels quite different when pressing it, the standard controller pad is kinda a short, sudden-ish press and noisy. On the Gamesir it feels like it's got more depth, it's smoother and a lot less noisy. Overall, I like this d-pad a lot more, but this might be a personal thing.
• The sticks feel roughly the same, perhaps a bit smoother when pressing, but possibly overthinking it. I'd say the round edges are a bit more textured perhaps, which I think is nice.

The other thing I've noticed is the controller itself is perhaps a tiny bit bigger and slighly different shape. It's messing a bit with my mussle memory in a couple of minor things cause the central buttons are a bit further away and in a slightly different direction from/to the sticks and ABXY. Of course, this is a really minor thing cause my brain will get adjusted after a couple of hours. Not really a bad thing, simply a bit different, which I guess is to be expected.

Sorry, this turned out quite long in the end. Overall, I personally think the Gamesir controller feels better than the standard one + it's got some additional functions/buttons and customisations (as the review says) + hall effect stuff. Personally, if I had a fully functioning standard controller I wouldn't just change to this (but that's me not spending money perhaps) but if I was browsing the market for new controller and it was between the Gamesir and the standard one, I would definitely pick the former, I feel it gives you more for the same price. The only big thing you loose is wireless of course.

@Decimateh Yeah, drift is a plague nowadays. I've never had problems with controllers in the past, but I just got drift on the controller I got with my series X. This wasn't as bad for me, the controller "only" lasted just under two years.

That said, I feel these things should last longer than just a couple of years, they definitely did back in te day (yeah old dino grumpy mode activated).

Anyway, with Hall effect stuff we shouldn't have drift problems anymore (or so they say)

Now 200 quid is too much for me to spend on a controller, too many other things can be bought with that kind of money, but for those willing to pay the price this seems like a nice option.

As a side note, if you guys want something cheaper (i.e. £50), I've just bought a Gamesir g7 se. It also has Hall effect thumbstricks and triggers. Overall good reviews for this controller, feels good etc. obviously not an "elite" type controller, but still's got a couple of additional buttons, some customisation. The main drawback is that is corded, so if you can't live with that, not a good option.

I don't need these to be released on Xbox, cause I could play them elsewhere. That said, Xbox it's currently my preferred platform to play with, so I would love to see FXVI and the pixel remaster on Xbox.

Less so FFVII remake, cause I don't like the "reboot" aspect of it, but might give it a chance someday (huge fan of the original).

The more the better, people can then choose where to play.

FFXIV was a nice addition, it's on my list cause everybody says it's brilliant. If I only had the time to play an MMO like in the olden days...

True, and fair enough on the wording, but the truth is that this is indeed MS IP. There's no way around that, regarldess of how long it's been the case.

Not that it matters really, this is nice. Obviously they are competitors, but within that context, it would be nice to see more of these "cameo" style things of cross-owned IP in games out there.

@Tasuki oh wow, HoMM 3 what an awesome classic! 2 and 3 are my all time faves.

I've completed Chants of Sennar today, it was an interesting little game, would recommend to those who enjoy the puzzle genre. Now, moved to The Gunk, nothing special, but a nice, entertaining and simple game.

Many cool looking games, not the only ones but Boomtown and Nikodericon got me quite interested.

I was aware of the first installment of this game, but I had wrongly assumed it was "just another" medieval RPG. I didn't know about the "realist" aspect of it (obviously I hadn't really read anything about the game, cause I assume that is THE usp of this)

Sounds pretty interesting, to the point I just logged into my Xbox to add the first one to my wishlist. I ended up buying it cause it's literaly at 3.50 atm (in UK) and it's the "royal edition" so it's got a bunch of DLC, the base game was at 2.50.

Yeah, I enjoyed Atomic Heart so I would recommend. It's not a perfect game, but I thought the environment and world building was excellent and that was enough for me to enjoy.

Also enjoyed what to me felt a slower FPS gameplay rythm during a big part of the game (gains more rythm towards the end), but that maybe its not for everybody.

2 weeks is enough if you can play a couple of horus a day and just focus on it! and more or less the main story. As far as I can remember, I didn't get any big problem / bug type things with it, felt reasonably polished (this is series X)

@Fiendish-Beaver Yes, fair, not the rumours themselves. I didn't choose my words well. What I meant is that there was all sorts of speculation from media included about Xbox going full 3rd party to the point that some sort of collective hysteria was created and I think a fair number of people believed that.

So, not what it's been said here, but all I'm saying is we'll see, many people raised all sorts of alarms before and it wasn't such a big deal in the end. It might very well be now (a real big big game), or in future.

This is just a rumor, last time it was also said the whole catalog was gonna go multiplat and it didn't happen. So, we shall see what happens now, but I think we need to be ready for this. There are ways in which this isn't neccesarily a bad thing, depending on what goes out there. And whatever it is, this is just gaming, let's please not get overexcited like last time!

On other more positive rumor news, there was a rumor on XboxEra about FFXVI coming to xbox earlier today.

What does that mean in terms of the game being in gamepass? should we expect it to be removed from there "soon"?

I hadn't heard about this one, looks interesting. Looking forward to seeing more in coming months.

I've seen comments again the comparison with GTA, which is reasonable, but also at the same time feel it's not crazy to compare them. Beyond the structure, on a "mission vs mission" comparison, there are reasonable similarities between both. I think it's not crazy to think that people who enjoyed the GTA "campaign" are likely to enjoy Mafia too.

I don't think I'll play it cause I already did back in the day, but remember thinking it was a really good game, so go ahead guys and enjoy.

Mafia 2 was also great. Mafia 3 was less great, but despite the reviews I found it quite fun too.

First thing I did was check that it wasn't 1st of April. Now, we shall see what the future brings.

@Odium I absolutely agree, really enjoyed The order 1886 too, hope someday, somebody revisits it. Kinda had a similar experience recently when I tried Ryse Son of Rome, which I also enjoyed quite a lot.

Agree on game length, the optimum max is 30 ish hours imo, less that that is also brilliant for many games.

Need to complete mario Rabbids 2, but kinda got sucked into Bloodstained - Ritual of the night. Not the best game of its genre, but still decent fun clearly. Otherwise I'd feel motivated to go to other games in parallel.

Has played it already on PS4, but clearly an absolute fantastic addition to GP.