10k is still a hefty number for sure, but it's the content that's important. As you pointed out a lot of UI and ship stuff, but nothing of any real significance.
I've several Skyrim mods that are whole, new islands that incorporate major gameplay updates. One of which is a Dark-Souls themed island complete with the stark difficulty and AI patterns the Souls series is known for.
If the modders aren't all that interested in a Bethesda title then that speaks volumes. I'm still seeing new gameplay changing mods appearing for Skyrm, for example, all the time
Joking aside you strike me as a nice chap, Kaloudz, but at some point you're going to have to accept that the Microsoft you champion so fervently don't have your interests as an Xbox gamer at heart - if they ever did.
Well, they don't stick out quite as bad as the Xbox faithful who at this point are like Iraqi Information Minister, Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf, claiming everything is fine as the city burns down behind him...
If Microsoft move away from traditional console development and move into 3rd party hardware development what will become of places like Pure Xbox and the many other dedicated Xbox sites out there?
Never played it, likely never will. I always thought it looked as dull as dishwater and outside of a few dire-hard Xbox fans, who were desperate for it to be the second coming for Xbox, the general consensus is that it is as dull as dish water.
Maybe I might reconsider when I can get it for under a tenner then I'll mod it. However, even mods for Starfield are thin on the ground next to some of Bethesda's other titles.
"Only Sony fan boys believe Xbox gamers don't but games I'm sorry to say!"
Well considering I don't own a PS5 I guess I'm letting the side down.
The numbers don't lie. Through GP Xbox users buy less games than those who predominantly game on PC and Nintendo consoles. That's a fact.
In my experience those who label others "fanboys" often do so because 1) they don't have a sound counter-argument and 2) they're often fanboys themselves. Are you a fanboy, Mr. Spanish?
"It's like buying netflix and buying any new films on that it makes no sense!!"
That's a terrible analogy. Just because you can rent a product doesn't mean you should never invest in owning said product.
Switch, PC and PlayStation gamers ALL buy more games than the average Xbox user and that has been a simple fact since Game Pass, for better or for worse, took ahold of the Xbox community.
If history tells us anything most won't be buying it.
This is why you likely won't see many PlayStation 1st party titles as they won't be on GP ergo a large percentage won't buy them. Very much a case of 'you reap what you sow'.
As others have already stated, HD2 is a 3rd party IP.
To quote @Fiendish-Beaver it's more likely "a concession from Sony. Not to Xbox or Microsoft, but to Arrowhead"
This isn't an indication of seeing first party PlayStation titles arriving on Xbox. It's been a rough week for sure, but I wouldn't start getting your hopes up about something that is unlikely to happen any time soon, if at all.
Support does get pulled, but you can still rock older versions of Windows. My other rig, (one in the study), still is Win10, for example and no probs. Of course some will recommend Linux, but while a great format it makes things more of a pain with Steam etc.
Any new build you invest in will have the latest version of Windows. It's up to you to upgrade or not, but it's rarely a requirement for gaming.
£800 will get you something good enough and yes you can upgrade and with ease. Prior to my new build I spent around £900 on my first proper gaming PC then upgraded. Even without the upgrade it still comfortably outshone PS4 and X1. The upgrade pushed it past PS5/Series X at the cost of just one of those consoles. I still have it in my study, with the new build in my living room.
The initial lay out is the expensive part, but after that's it's far more affordable and better bang for you buck long term.
A tower is better. Also , as you say, better value if you shop around. My advise is to research, choose the parts you want then get it custom built if you can't do it yourself.
As for games, it all comes down to how well they're optimised. I've a beast so can throw anything at it and get the best results, however bad development is bad development and so some games run crap regardless of one's rig. It's rare though as a good rig will just bulldozer it's way through.
Good PC gaming is great when you know how, but while far easier to work than 20 years ago it's not as straightforward as a console and I would never claim otherwise. However, you don't buy a Ferrari and expect the ease of running it as you would a Ford Fiesta. 😉
Most games will will work below minimum, settings, it's just a case of how well.
Here's E33
Minimum specs:
Intel Core i7-8700K or AMD Ryzen 5 1600X processor, 8 GB of RAM, and a GTX 1060 6GB or equivalent graphics card.
Recommended specs:
Intel Core i7-12700K or AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 16 GB RAM, and an RTX 3060 Ti or equivalent. A 64-bit processor and operating system are also required
Resident Evil 9 minimum estimates are Intel Core i5 or AMD Ryzen 5 series processor, or better, to handle the game's engine and physics.
16 GB RAM or more.
AMD Radeon RX 5700 or NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
Truth is the kind of games you're asking to play requires a lot more than you're probably aiming for.
8gb is pretty low, ideally you want 16gb. Don't think you're going to be playing Space Marine 2 on it though. IMO laptops aren't very good for gaming and if I'm being completely honest I see little point in going into PC gaming halfheartedly.
A low end PC, by today's standards, will play a lot of older Steam and GoG games quite easily. Almost as many undemanding newer titles depending on your set up.
The bonus of GoG is you can download them to play offline with the offline installers. You don't even need the Galaxy launcher. In short games you buy from GoG, you own.
There's more people gaming on PC than Xbox, PlayStation and Switch combined - has been for some time. However, only a minority have high end rigs. The majority are using low to mid-range PCs.
Speaking specifically about the games themselves, GT is a sterile experience devoid of personality when put up against FM. I think it would've had a far better chance on PlayStation than you perhaps give it credit for.
Ah yes, take the absolute budget console of the two in a weak attempt to spin your narrative. I'm confident if I search through your comment history I'll find some comment lamenting the Series S "holding development back".
"And no, you don't need to spend $3000 to build a good gaming PC"
No, you don't. That is and always was a fallacy cooked up by the console-only crowd. You can spend £3k if you want, but it's not necessary. I spent £1300 on mine and it eats the PS5 and Series X for lunch with added dessert.
True, but now all destined to become PlayStation regulars.
Contrary to how I may seem I take no relish in any of this. I've been a fan of Xbox since the OG Xbox and its impossibly big controller. I stood in line at midnight to get my hands on one with DOA 4, Rallisport Challenge and Halo.
"everything just highlights that there’s no strategy or even a long term vision for Xbox"
Those not with their head in the sand have known this for some time.
But you're always going to see a strong amount of spin and damage control from the Xbox faithful. I even understand why given how much they've invested in the brand. I'd like to think the realisation that Microsoft/Xbox are not their friends and are a business like any other might now sink in...but I doubt it.
It really is the equivalent of Saddam Hussein's Information Minister, Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, claiming everything is fine as the city burns down behind him.
"Could be Sony is releasing a PC with PlayStation logo slapped on it"
No, I'm afraid not and there is absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise.
It's only Microsoft heading down this path. Today's news across the Xbox landscape only serves to confirm Microsofts paradigm shift for their "console division"
Denial is not a place in Egypt.
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Re: Oblivion Remastered Update 1.2 Adds New Difficulty Options, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
Surprised Pure Xbox hasn't reported this...
https://www.eurogamer.net/studio-behind-oblivion-remastered-one-of-2025s-biggest-hits-subject-to-mass-layoffs-report
Re: Rumour: Xbox Is Working On Next-Gen Cloud Gaming, Including PC-Based Streaming
@Cakefish
Whether the Xbox faithful see that as a good or a bad thing is up for debate. Guess we'll find out soon enough.
That being said, welcome to the PCMR!
Re: Report: Activision Blizzard's King Team Sees Axed Job Roles 'Replaced' By AI
"Before we put a bullet in your head, would you be so kind as to dig a body sized hole in the ground first?"
Re: Xbox Hardware Isn't Dead But 'Big Changes' Are Coming, Says Digital Foundry
@Coletrain
Interesting...
Re: ASUS Seems To Have Accidentally Leaked The ROG Xbox Ally Prices (In Europe)
@Frmknst
No one, because this isn't a mobile console. It's a mobile PC with an Xbox logo on it.
Re: Talking Point: After Almost Two Years, How Do You Feel About Xbox's Starfield In 2025?
@themightyant
10k is still a hefty number for sure, but it's the content that's important. As you pointed out a lot of UI and ship stuff, but nothing of any real significance.
I've several Skyrim mods that are whole, new islands that incorporate major gameplay updates. One of which is a Dark-Souls themed island complete with the stark difficulty and AI patterns the Souls series is known for.
Re: Talking Point: After Almost Two Years, How Do You Feel About Xbox's Starfield In 2025?
@themightyant
If the modders aren't all that interested in a Bethesda title then that speaks volumes.
I'm still seeing new gameplay changing mods appearing for Skyrm, for example, all the time
Re: Xbox Is Using The Most Ridiculous AI Image To Advertise New Jobs
@Kaloudz
"I don't see the big issue myself."
Quelle surprise.
Joking aside you strike me as a nice chap, Kaloudz, but at some point you're going to have to accept that the Microsoft you champion so fervently don't have your interests as an Xbox gamer at heart - if they ever did.
Re: Xbox Hardware Isn't Dead But 'Big Changes' Are Coming, Says Digital Foundry
@Ernie
Well, they don't stick out quite as bad as the Xbox faithful who at this point are like Iraqi Information Minister, Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf, claiming everything is fine as the city burns down behind him...
Re: Xbox Hardware Isn't Dead But 'Big Changes' Are Coming, Says Digital Foundry
@Fiendish-Beaver
I guess they'll have to adapt. How, though, I don't know.
Worst case scenario? Dozens of Xbox sites shut up shop.
Re: Xbox Hardware Isn't Dead But 'Big Changes' Are Coming, Says Digital Foundry
If Microsoft move away from traditional console development and move into 3rd party hardware development what will become of places like Pure Xbox and the many other dedicated Xbox sites out there?
Not poking fun, it's a genuine question.
Re: Talking Point: After Almost Two Years, How Do You Feel About Xbox's Starfield In 2025?
@themightyant
I had a look on Nexus and there isn't a great deal of mods that make a huge difference. Seems modders have little interest in the game either.
Re: Talking Point: After Almost Two Years, How Do You Feel About Xbox's Starfield In 2025?
Never played it, likely never will. I always thought it looked as dull as dishwater and outside of a few dire-hard Xbox fans, who were desperate for it to be the second coming for Xbox, the general consensus is that it is as dull as dish water.
Maybe I might reconsider when I can get it for under a tenner then I'll mod it. However, even mods for Starfield are thin on the ground next to some of Bethesda's other titles.
Re: Poll: Helldivers 2 Isn't On Xbox Game Pass, So Will You Be Buying It?
@Ricky-Spanish
"Only Sony fan boys believe Xbox gamers don't but games I'm sorry to say!"
Well considering I don't own a PS5 I guess I'm letting the side down.
The numbers don't lie. Through GP Xbox users buy less games than those who predominantly game on PC and Nintendo consoles. That's a fact.
In my experience those who label others "fanboys" often do so because 1) they don't have a sound counter-argument and 2) they're often fanboys themselves. Are you a fanboy, Mr. Spanish?
"It's like buying netflix and buying any new films on that it makes no sense!!"
That's a terrible analogy. Just because you can rent a product doesn't mean you should never invest in owning said product.
Re: Poll: Helldivers 2 Isn't On Xbox Game Pass, So Will You Be Buying It?
@MasterTanookiChief
The numbers say otherwise, but okay.
Switch, PC and PlayStation gamers ALL buy more games than the average Xbox user and that has been a simple fact since Game Pass, for better or for worse, took ahold of the Xbox community.
Re: Poll: Helldivers 2 Isn't On Xbox Game Pass, So Will You Be Buying It?
@DennisReynolds
Very much a case of putting their money where their mouth is.
Re: Poll: Helldivers 2 Isn't On Xbox Game Pass, So Will You Be Buying It?
If history tells us anything most won't be buying it.
This is why you likely won't see many PlayStation 1st party titles as they won't be on GP ergo a large percentage won't buy them. Very much a case of 'you reap what you sow'.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (July 5-6)
Broken Sword: Shadow of the Templars
F.E.A.R Platinum Edition
Deadly Premonition Directors Cut
Legend of Grimrock 2
Days Gone
All on PC.
Re: PlayStation Is Publishing Helldivers 2 On Xbox, Signalling A Shift In Strategy From Sony
...aaand breath.
Re: Former Xbox Dev Claims Turn 10's Forza Motorsport Team 'Is No More'
@Ernie
"Microsoft are clearly going forward into the next gen with a much firmer grip on the gaming side of their company."
Riiiight.
Re: PlayStation Is Publishing Helldivers 2 On Xbox, Signalling A Shift In Strategy From Sony
As others have already stated, HD2 is a 3rd party IP.
To quote @Fiendish-Beaver it's more likely "a concession from Sony. Not to Xbox or Microsoft, but to Arrowhead"
This isn't an indication of seeing first party PlayStation titles arriving on Xbox. It's been a rough week for sure, but I wouldn't start getting your hopes up about something that is unlikely to happen any time soon, if at all.
Re: SEGA President Excited For Future Of Consoles Despite 'Huge Trend' Of PC & Mobile
@Kaloudz
Support does get pulled, but you can still rock older versions of Windows. My other rig, (one in the study), still is Win10, for example and no probs. Of course some will recommend Linux, but while a great format it makes things more of a pain with Steam etc.
Any new build you invest in will have the latest version of Windows. It's up to you to upgrade or not, but it's rarely a requirement for gaming.
Re: Xbox Series S Compared To Switch 2 In Hogwarts Legacy Analysis, And The Results Are Surprising
@Juanalf
Not the point, but okay.
Re: Perfect Dark Actor Calls On Fans To 'Speak Up' And Help The Game Survive
@IOI
Yep, it's a dead duck.
Re: Random: Over 1M People Have Signed A Petition To 'Stop Killing Games'
Good luck with that...
Re: Xbox Series S Compared To Switch 2 In Hogwarts Legacy Analysis, And The Results Are Surprising
Street Fighter 6 has better image quality on Switch 2 at 60fps
https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2025-street-fighter-6-on-switch-2-classic-60fps-action-with-better-image-quality-than-xbox-series-s?view=comments
Re: Helldivers 2 Developer Shuts Down Xbox Game Pass Rumour
No GP day one means it'll be largely ignored by the Xbox community.
DOA on Xbox.
Re: SEGA President Excited For Future Of Consoles Despite 'Huge Trend' Of PC & Mobile
@Kaloudz
£800 will get you something good enough and yes you can upgrade and with ease. Prior to my new build I spent around £900 on my first proper gaming PC then upgraded. Even without the upgrade it still comfortably outshone PS4 and X1. The upgrade pushed it past PS5/Series X at the cost of just one of those consoles. I still have it in my study, with the new build in my living room.
The initial lay out is the expensive part, but after that's it's far more affordable and better bang for you buck long term.
Re: SEGA President Excited For Future Of Consoles Despite 'Huge Trend' Of PC & Mobile
@Kaloudz
A tower is better. Also , as you say, better value if you shop around. My advise is to research, choose the parts you want then get it custom built if you can't do it yourself.
As for games, it all comes down to how well they're optimised. I've a beast so can throw anything at it and get the best results, however bad development is bad development and so some games run crap regardless of one's rig. It's rare though as a good rig will just bulldozer it's way through.
Good PC gaming is great when you know how, but while far easier to work than 20 years ago it's not as straightforward as a console and I would never claim otherwise. However, you don't buy a Ferrari and expect the ease of running it as you would a Ford Fiesta. 😉
Re: SEGA President Excited For Future Of Consoles Despite 'Huge Trend' Of PC & Mobile
@Kaloudz
Most games will will work below minimum, settings, it's just a case of how well.
Here's E33
Minimum specs:
Intel Core i7-8700K or AMD Ryzen 5 1600X processor, 8 GB of RAM, and a GTX 1060 6GB or equivalent graphics card.
Recommended specs:
Intel Core i7-12700K or AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 16 GB RAM, and an RTX 3060 Ti or equivalent. A 64-bit processor and operating system are also required
Resident Evil 9 minimum estimates are Intel Core i5 or AMD Ryzen 5 series processor, or better, to handle the game's engine and physics.
16 GB RAM or more.
AMD Radeon RX 5700 or NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
Truth is the kind of games you're asking to play requires a lot more than you're probably aiming for.
Re: SEGA President Excited For Future Of Consoles Despite 'Huge Trend' Of PC & Mobile
@Kaloudz
8gb is pretty low, ideally you want 16gb. Don't think you're going to be playing Space Marine 2 on it though. IMO laptops aren't very good for gaming and if I'm being completely honest I see little point in going into PC gaming halfheartedly.
Re: SEGA President Excited For Future Of Consoles Despite 'Huge Trend' Of PC & Mobile
@Kaloudz
A low end PC, by today's standards, will play a lot of older Steam and GoG games quite easily. Almost as many undemanding newer titles depending on your set up.
The bonus of GoG is you can download them to play offline with the offline installers. You don't even need the Galaxy launcher. In short games you buy from GoG, you own.
Re: SEGA President Excited For Future Of Consoles Despite 'Huge Trend' Of PC & Mobile
@Kaloudz
There's more people gaming on PC than Xbox, PlayStation and Switch combined - has been for some time. However, only a minority have high end rigs. The majority are using low to mid-range PCs.
Mobile gaming dwarfs everything.
Re: Former Xbox Dev Claims Turn 10's Forza Motorsport Team 'Is No More'
@Fiendish-Beaver
Speaking specifically about the games themselves, GT is a sterile experience devoid of personality when put up against FM. I think it would've had a far better chance on PlayStation than you perhaps give it credit for.
Re: Perfect Dark Developer Responds To 'Big Controversy' Over 2024 Gameplay Trailer
@Weebleman
"Theres a lot more to take away than two games getting cancelled"
According to the Xbox faithful apparently not and there is nothing to be concerned about...
Re: Former Xbox Dev Claims Turn 10's Forza Motorsport Team 'Is No More'
FM is one of the better circuit racers out there. For it to be confined to the annals of history is terrible shame.
Re: Helldivers 2 Is Officially Releasing For Xbox This August
It's ironic that the best Xbox news this week comes from Sony.
Re: Helldivers 2 Is Officially Releasing For Xbox This August
@Kaloudz
I'm sure the thousands set to lose their jobs and in turn their income are at least happy that Xbox "killed it" the first half of the year.
Honestly, where do you people come from. lol
Re: Report: Multiple Industry Veterans To Leave Xbox Studios Amidst Layoffs
@HonestHick
"Think before you reply"
The irony, given some of the responses I've seen this evening.
Re: Report: Multiple Industry Veterans To Leave Xbox Studios Amidst Layoffs
@Deshalu
No, it was spin. Damage control. Etc. Blatantly so.
Re: Xbox Next-Gen Console Plans 'Not Impacted' By Microsoft Layoffs
@Questionable_Duck
Ah yes, take the absolute budget console of the two in a weak attempt to spin your narrative. I'm confident if I search through your comment history I'll find some comment lamenting the Series S "holding development back".
Re: Report: Multiple Industry Veterans To Leave Xbox Studios Amidst Layoffs
@Deshalu
I got dizzy reading that spin.
Re: Report: Multiple Industry Veterans To Leave Xbox Studios Amidst Layoffs
Still think that multi billion acquisition was worth it guys?
You're a deluded fool if you do.
Re: Xbox Next-Gen Console Plans 'Not Impacted' By Microsoft Layoffs
@Exerion76
"And no, you don't need to spend $3000 to build a good gaming PC"
No, you don't. That is and always was a fallacy cooked up by the console-only crowd. You can spend £3k if you want, but it's not necessary. I spent £1300 on mine and it eats the PS5 and Series X for lunch with added dessert.
Re: Xbox's Matt Booty Issues Statement On Layoffs And Game Cancellations
@Millionski
True, but now all destined to become PlayStation regulars.
Contrary to how I may seem I take no relish in any of this. I've been a fan of Xbox since the OG Xbox and its impossibly big controller. I stood in line at midnight to get my hands on one with DOA 4, Rallisport Challenge and Halo.
It's sad to see it come to this.
Re: Two More Xbox Games Are Being Cancelled, Including Perfect Dark
@fbnaulin
I hope so, my friend. SoD 3 was very much near the top of my list.
Re: Two More Xbox Games Are Being Cancelled, Including Perfect Dark
@IOI
"everything just highlights that there’s no strategy or even a long term vision for Xbox"
Those not with their head in the sand have known this for some time.
But you're always going to see a strong amount of spin and damage control from the Xbox faithful. I even understand why given how much they've invested in the brand. I'd like to think the realisation that Microsoft/Xbox are not their friends and are a business like any other might now sink in...but I doubt it.
It really is the equivalent of Saddam Hussein's Information Minister, Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, claiming everything is fine as the city burns down behind him.
Re: Xbox's Matt Booty Issues Statement On Layoffs And Game Cancellations
This is far from over.
This is Microsoft winding down the Xbox division for the foreseeable future.
Re: Xbox Next-Gen Console Plans 'Not Impacted' By Microsoft Layoffs
@Ernie
"Could be Sony is releasing a PC with PlayStation logo slapped on it"
No, I'm afraid not and there is absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise.
It's only Microsoft heading down this path. Today's news across the Xbox landscape only serves to confirm Microsofts paradigm shift for their "console division"
Denial is not a place in Egypt.
Re: Two More Xbox Games Are Being Cancelled, Including Perfect Dark
@fbnaulin
Sadly it's been rumoured that SoD 3 has been shelved for some time.