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@Millionski No one said anything about Sony, I certainly have never said Sony is the "good guy", remove the tinfoil fanboy hat for a second and realize this has nothing to do with console wars, that's why it's so frustrating for me, with Xbox dropping the towel Sony has become more and more abusive but they still outsell Xbox by an ever growing margin, not because they're great, it's been the worst PS generation by far and yet people choose it because of MS´ incompetence to even name and market their own platforms, now they're giving up long term platform growth over a quick buck doing some ports, great for the gamers on the other consoles and for their financials, dreadful tho for the ones that have stuck with Xbox.

@Millionski It’s not about console sales per se, but which games are available where, that’s what people care about and what compels both casuals and hardcore gamers into buying one platform or the other, Xbox already is the least important platform to develop for, some devs don’t even care to do a port, Sony can put their games on PC but their console still gets games from pretty much everyone including Microsoft, with that situation in mind why would anyone choose the Xbox over a PlayStation or PC?

If you want to continue to ignore the dwindling relevance of the platform and still invest on it it’s fine, Microsoft will happily take your money, I will not get rid of my Xbox but I’m not buying one single game on it ever again, will take advantage of the years of Game Pass I paid in advance and use my PS5 for most third-parties while I decide what to do next generation, but all roads lead to PC.

@Millionski Weird thing, I have noticed the difference when I want to play FFXVI, The Last of Us, FFVII Rebirth, Stellar Blade, Spider-Man 2, Black Myth Wukong or other dozens of games on Xbox and I can’t, had to get them on my PS5.

A couple of games released on Xbox after half a decade doesn’t mean a big turnaround is happening and the platform is gaining relevance, I don’t see it, of the 30M current users they have they’ll keep losing them with their baffling decisions and terrible communication, and not because of ‘bitter fanboys’, why would any casual gamer (the ones that make up the most of console sales) get the one platform with less games available and no exclusives? Game Pass isn’t a system seller as this generation has proven. This will only result in less users, less sales, less relevance for the platform, less games available for it and so on, until it stops making financial sense for MS to sell a plastic box and our digital libraries just get stuck on a dead platform.

No one is saying this will happen tomorrow, next year or even next generation but we have several precedents with Microsoft, the one that’s looking very similar is Windows Phone that collapsed after investing billions on Nokia and MS mismanaged them to oblivion, now look all that’s happening with Xbox after the Activision buyout, terrifyingly similar.

@Major_Player Him saying there’s no redline for Xbox games on PlayStation is him admitting every game will eventually be ported, which we’ve all discussed will lead to the platform being more and more irrelevant to the point it doesn’t make sense to have dedicated customer-focused hardware anymore.

This is the strategy Microsoft has stated time and time again this year, only now he finally was clear that EVERYTHING is on the table to port to PS5, which also makes crystal clear the inevitable doom for Xbox, there’s nothing made up about it, just facts stated by Microsoft themselves.

Just f*cking pathetic statements he’s given in that interview, the next Asian studio they buy it’s gonna get closed shortly after, stay the f*ck away from them please.

Probably don’t want to confirm the date since they’re looking into launching it on PS5 aren’t they?

@Major_Player It’s not PlayStation gamers that say that, it’s Phil Spencer himself.
https://www.purexbox.com/news/2024/11/xbox-boss-says-everything-is-on-the-table-when-it-comes-to-ps5-ports

Lies of P yet again, if the business was so healthy we wouldn’t have seen studio closures, price increases across everything but specially Game Pass, tiering for the service which decreased the value of standard Game Pass, the porting of several games to more successful platforms and even announcing them as the next big thing.

Maybe all this has made their profit margins to increase by 1% and that’s good news for them even though they decimated the entire division, we can expect this amazing strategy to be followed in the upcoming years.

Why every single time it feels the brand is going through a momentum they have to do or say something that completely ruins it!?

Xbox is dead and has no future, he basically just confirmed EVERYTHING will eventually go to all platforms, you can s**t on Don Matrick all you want but Phil was the one responsible for this generation and they’re doing even worse than with Xbox One, it’s gonna be yet another brand mismanaged to oblivion by Microsoft sooner rather than later.

@TheGameThrifter What a exhausting discourse for such a non-issue…

@Dimey Bugs were squashed around 6 months after release, also performance mode is flawless at 60 FPS, this lightning makes the game look so much better very close to the originals.

I bought this at launch, even preordered it with MS Rewards but never completed any of them as it was so incredibly disappointing, nowadays I’ll definitely play them.

@Krazee5255 They won’t allow it because they sell software (games) as crazy, the Switch has sold 1.3 billion games and they make more money selling software than subscriptions.

Plus it’s now clear Game Pass is not a system seller, the service has been great and yet the Xbox platform has barely grown, GP on Switch will never ever happen, the cons will always outweigh the pros.

Pointless speculation, it’s just marketing talk for what we all already know it’s gonna be AI in some shape or form.

@The-Chosen-one They’ll just launch it on Switch 2 at $70 as any other system, there’s no way in hell Nintendo would allow Game Pass on their platforms, currently the most successful of the three.

I’d say 2021 Holidays, previously that year we got Phsychonauts 2, Flight Simulator and all Bethesda on Game Pass, then we got a streak from Forza Horizon 5, Halo Infinite MP followed by the campaign and the Activision buyout announced a month later.

That was a pretty exciting time to be an Xbox user, almost 360 vibes I’d say, afterwards in 2022 they didn’t have a single game and the rest is history…

Please don’t sleep on the game, it’s one of my favorites games of all time and I even wondering if buying it again on Xbox having got the platinum twice.

It’s sad that such a cool addition was made when the game is already dead, I’ve been trying to get back to it but 9 out of 10 matches have bots in either my team or the other and matchmaking just won’t get rid of them, people eventually start to leave and the match ends up in a couple of players against bots.

@Wisegamer I understand, it all depends on your definition of "best", if you're looking for the best graphic fidelity in consoles the PS5 Pro will undoubtedly be the better experience at least until the next Xbox home console arrives, if you're looking for the best value there's no beating Xbox and Game Pass indeed.

In my case I'm still going to play Xbox games on Xbox since I got Game Pass until 2027, but I'm looking into buying most third-parties on PS5 now.

Forza Motorsport, even Horizon I only play for brief moments, just not a fan of racing simulator.

Lmao eventually PS5 Pro will be the best place to play most Xbox games…

FFVII Rebirth is the only right answer!

I wouldn’t buy a Sony owned game on Xbox, they might suddenly decide Bungie games are now exclusive and pull the plug from Xbox specifically.

Lmao now everyone suddenly hates it and nitpicks on it because it’s from a Sony studio, to me it’s still the best exclusive game on Xbox that’s actually still exclusive.

If MS would’ve bought Insomniac back then it’d have created more value for the Xbox brand than both Bethesda and ABK buyouts.

The first campaign that hooked me and finish it in 3 days since the Xbox 360 days, I’m genuinely surprised at how well put together it is and the variety for each mission, those mannequins will give me nightmares lmao

@TheGiraffe I totally get you, I got a Rog Ally back in May to give it a go at PC gaming because Xbox’ doom and gloom but every single time I used it I ended up frustrated and not having fun at all, I already sold it and I’m just baffled at what to do now.

I don’t want to invest much in PS5 as every game is way more expensive here, nor in Switch as every third-party looks and runs worse, Xbox was my go-to for most games but I struggle to invest in a platform that even its parent company doesn’t believe in…

Yeah, Xbox is f*cked.

@fizban3332 Well the last time he went a visit a developer team in Japan was Tango Gameworks mere weeks before shutting them down 💀

@Fiendish-Beaver Nah, I like the guy, he genuinely seems like a friendly person but he failed at his job, there’s no way around it, and because he failed it’s why Nadella and corporate MS are now taking the decisions in MS Gaming, no longer Xbox.

It’s the best looking Xbox console even to this date, I’m still blown away that I actually got one.

Too late. Pandora’s box has been opened and now inevitably every single game Microsoft announces it’s going to be questioned when it’s coming to other platforms.

And how they announced Indy was what pissed off a lot of people, treating it like the one more thing announcement in Keighley’s event as it’d be the definitive version of the game, almost as if they wanted to prevent anyone from getting an Xbox just for this game, absurdly bad optics for Xbox…

@Secryt I’d agree if you actually saved up money, right now you can get a cheaper Series X with a disc drive than the “new” one without it lmao

@Lup I also thought it was good for MS to give a budget option for next-gen back in 2020 but time has proven that it has been more a hassle for developers, customers and even MS than just having the Series X.

@acmiguens There hasn’t been any single IP from Sony that has made its way to Xbox, none at all, in fact it’s more feasible that it arrives on a Nintendo platform than Xbox, just see Lego Horizon.

I actually have most third-party games on Xbox and just buy exclusives for PlayStation and Nintendo respectively, but lately after this year’s baffling news from corporate MS I’m trying to move away from buying on Xbox tbh.

With all due respect Aaron Greenberg should’ve lost his job years ago, I mean he’s responsible for Xbox marketing and PR, yet Xbox’ marketing is almost non existent and has been abysmal for 2 generations in a row!

Nice, so the next big MS f*ck up gets announced in 3-4 weeks.

(Every time Xbox has a good event they follow it with a baffling announcement weeks later lol)

It’s so baffling they didn’t come up with a Series X|S bundle with either the game or 3 months of Game Pass.

Sony launched a bundle with PS4 or PS5 every single year they had marketing for Call of Duty since 2015, but Xbox marketing keeps being absolutely stupid and clueless.

— ‘Did you get Call of Duty on Game Pass?’
– ‘Yes.’
— ‘What did it cost?’
– ‘Everything’.

I didn’t even know there was a head of Xbox Game Studios aside from Matt Booty, and I don’t really know how to feel about this move since Xbox Game Studios’ output has been very lackluster only delivering Hellblade 2 this year and Forza last year, but Rare’s has been even worse with them only having Sea of Thieves back in 2018 and Everwild in development hell for half a decade…

@JaffeGaffe That’s the most pathetic fanboy take I’ve ever read.

Literally everything changed for the worse, the Xbox brand is in disarray, only 3 titles have arrived on Game Pass, they’ve worsen the service with the tiers and priced up Ultimate substantially.

One year later the single only good thing for customers is that we’re getting Black Ops 6 on Game Pass, but it literally costed the Xbox brand, wasn’t worth it imo.

First Call of Duty I’ll play day one since the 360 generation!

Infinite because the gameplay was at its best for the entire saga imo, they really had a solid foundation but the campaign fell short and they took 2 years to take the multiplayer out of beta, but still better than Halo 4 (my second pick) and Halo 5 which nearly killed the saga tbh.

Hopefully not, and not because I don’t want PS gamers to enjoy these games, but because the platform needs to retain some identity and once they launch Halo on any competing console the Xbox brand is gone for good.

@Vaako007 UE5 is not the same as UE3, can you tell that Hi-Fi Rush, Fortnite and the Matrix demo are all running on the same engine? Not at all.

@Dsswoosh You really think UE5 can’t deliver smooth gameplay for multiplayer?
Just take a look at Fortnite running at 120 FPS, being on several platforms (literally every one) and even achieving 60 FPS on Switch, with proper optimization it can have rock solid performance for a generation to come.

@Elbow More than studio’s name the big news here is the switch to Unreal, now every new dev coming to the studio won’t have to spend months trying to get to know the engine and then getting to work on the games themselves, of course it’s a wait and see situation, but for the first time things are looking differently than in the last 10 years.

This is pretty exciting ngl, failed leadership from the very top is gone now, so this new direction have the chance to actually deliver on something special.

The Halo CE remake now makes sense as it’ll allow the studio to familiarize with UE5 and getting to re-learn how to make a great Halo game, if they manage to launch it with the next Xbox it’d be a huge W.

I regret so much buying the Premium upgrade, I didn’t even play that much on early access (since I found the base game boring) and now I won’t play the already paid expansion as it’s seemingly worse than the base game, what a disappointment…

Shocking that an open program like this didn’t exist until now but I guess better late than never.

Imo they should work towards that any game that launches on PC can be ported to Xbox with minimal effort or just make the next Xbox a PC.