AverageGamer

@IOI All of the Bethesda releases under the Xbox banner has been play anywhere… I can’t speak for Activision since I haven’t touched the last 2 call of duty’s, and Blizzard’s Diablo 4 released before the purchase was completed.

What Xbox game studio release isn’t play anywhere?

@IOI You should already have access to your Xbox library on PC… at least the Xbox published one. 3rd party games are definitely not going to happen since that depends on the 3rd party publishers.

@OldGamer999 While I agree that Xbox needs to keep their pulse on the wider audience… TGA is not it. TGA doesn’t really have that much of wide appeal. neither Sony or Nintendo has had much presence at this show, and they are very well. Xbox has had a lot of major announcements at this show… and it really has done nothing for them.

@OldGamer999 Avowed being 60FPS is probably not going to happen... Indiana Jones being 60FPS is the perfect example of what an actual good engine can do. idTech is a crazy optimized for 60FPS beast. Unreal Engine 5 is straight trash on anything that isn't a ridiculously high-end PC.

@Martsmall Yes/No… If they’re American, it heavily depends on the state they live in. 13 do not require helmets, and some state it is only illegal to not wear a bike helmet if you are under the age of 16.

@gollumb82 I wouldn’t exactly used the steam deck as a price point. You’re already paying a massive premium for the Steam Deck even compared to vastly higher specs handheld PC, and Valve is also playing a sneaky game by keeping it exclusive to Steam… They can continue to charge a premium with very few discounts.

Also, Microsoft is a larger company so has more purchasing power compared to valve which can help drive down costs of components.

@Grumblevolcano They definitely need to get permission from 3rd parties. As 3rd parties need to verify with any company who they may be licensing content from (music, cars… etc) if it okay to have it stream able.

@InvaderFromSpace “ Old employees coming out and talking about what Gears 6 would have been feels like the next nail in the coffin of it ever happening.”

What other employees have talked about Gears 6? Rod left The Coalition 3 month after Gears 5 in 2020… Any work on Gear 6 he did would been super early. So I wouldn’t use him as a baseline for it not happening.

@GamingFan4Lyf @shoeses This is the perfect example of companies being lazy just cause Microsoft did 80% of their job… They don’t feel obligated to release a native version.

@InterceptorAlpha “ How Microsoft has handled his projects.”

What projects? Are we talking about Crackdown 3?

@InvaderFromSpace “ So the guy who oversaw the terrible release of Forza Motorsport was promoted to this position...”

Yes. Let’s focus on the one bad spot out of the 19 years of being studio head.

@Fishmasterflex96 It not about underselling them. Obsidian is good at pumping out content… But the sales numbers for those games aren’t exactly that great especially compared to Sea of Thieves… and that most likely what Xbox management is probably looking at that more so how much content they helped release. The current person in charge Alan Hartman was studio head of Turn 10, and that was a studio that was also very good at pumping out content, and that did very little to help Xbox.

@Fishmasterflex96 “ Would have much rather seen Obsidian or Playground leadership become the head of Xbox game studios.”

Most of the senior leadership that would have good for the role has left Playground Games… and while Obsidian is good at pumping out content. Most of it isn’t worth talking about… This guy was in charge of the team that has delivered Xbox most successful title in years. Management unfortunately isnt look at how many games you pumped out. They only care if it brings in the big bucks, and Sea of Thieves has done that.

@Balaam_ I doubt it was actually called Infinite 2. It probably had an actual different internal product name. Probably just easier to call infinite 2 for simplicity. Plus Infinite 2 doesn’t make sense given that their plan was to use Halo Infinite as a platform similar to Fortnite that they just regularly update with new story content and DLC.

@Fiendish-Beaver “ causing delays because contractors that came in to help with the making of the game had to learn a completely new engine before they could actually get to the point of helping”

You would think that maybe the cause of all their problems is Microsoft being cheap… and the best thing to do is stop relying on so much contractors. Nope. It completely the engine fault. Left move to UE5 and still rely heavily on contractors.

@Titntin Most of 343i leadership left, and the studio was affected by massive layoffs… At this point, it basically is a fresh new team, and that we it think they did a name change. To show that this a new team, and not just 343 rebranded.

@NEStalgia Nope. They have been 100% consistent with that.

EDIT: I know this cause that where I've been buying my Ubisoft game for the last couple of years outside of the ones I bought on Stadia and iOS.

@NEStalgia "or even an unpopular one, opting only for their own which absolutely nobody voluntarily uses."

I mean... their games are on the Epic store. They moved away from Steam in favor of Epic.

@Fiendish-Beaver The rumor is that the next Xbox is planned to be released 2026-2027. So it will definitely be a launch period title for the NeXtBox just like OG Gears was for the 360… Microsoft like to tread old ground it seems.

Microsoft is on a role with the strategy games, and I feel they don't get enough credit.

@OldGamer999 "Yeah I get their intentions, but due to producing for all devices they never produce a TOTK or GOWR for the series x. A must have game of outstanding quality in all areas."

Wasn't GOWR also on PS4? A system weaker than a Series S? So that a terrible example....

@OldGamer999 "Wish it was being made for the series x only.
Total focus on one console and no other devices."

We don't even know when this coming out... So, it may not even be a Series X game for all we know

I wish we could get an exact break down of the number because it definitely not the games that made that 10 billion, much less 2 billion. 95% is most likely from all the merchandise.

This is probably simply just down to how the back compat works on PS5 requiring a native version of the game to bring up to par with the Xbox Series X/S version... We have seen this countless of times with other games that required devs to basically go in and create a native version of the games. Whereas on Xbox, devs didn't need to do that.

@LX_FENIX Since when did Phil say that? Phil has green light multiple single player projects…

@Cikajovazmaj TBH... when dealing with these massive 1 trillion-dollar companies. The only thing that will get their attention is call them out publicly. We've seen it countless of time, not just with Microsoft, but other companies as well. These companies have completely separated themselves from the rest of society. To the point that it near impossible to get ahold of anyone unless you're also a billion-to-trillion-dollar company and have direct contacts.

@Trmn8r @PsBoxSwitchOwner Apple don’t get none of Netflix money anyway. As you can’t subscribe to Netflix through the App Store. You have to sign up for a subscription on a web browser or different device, so Netflix is avoiding the 30%

Microsoft could probably do the same thing that Patreon is doing by charge a higher fee for any Apple user who do does any App purchases through the App Store…

I know that game can probably stand on it own. But have they said about recommending playing Pillars of Eternity first to fully understand the universe?

@OldGamer999 I bring up Gears cause 5 released at a time where they was developing for One X/S and PC. So it no different than what they are currently doing when it comes to developing games for Series X/S and PC.

@OldGamer999 “ If the Avowed developers were just developing for the series x alone and given the time, the game would just look the same and be at 60fps.”

TBH… I don’t think Avowed being solely made for just Series X would have changed anything. Obsidian has alway been an extremely average C tier developer who were lucky enough to have a few break out hits like New Vegas… They’ve been living on borrowed time, and probably why they agreed to be purchased by Microsoft.

Their studios focus have never really been on the technical aspects of games like frame rate or the graphical fidelity. Vs Guerrilla who entire exist since their purchase by Sony has been nothing but the technical aspects of their games, and how pretty they look… But is a snooze fest 😴 to play.

“ Microsoft business model is different and prioritise developing games on lots of devices, but it comes at quality cost.”

This hasn’t affected the quality of Forza Horizon nor the recent Gears games… so moot point.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner Returnal did run at 60FPS… but it also ran at 1080P internally

Man, 15 years... That sounds like such a long time ago. I still have the Game informer magazine (RIP) back from when it was the cover game and was known as Halo 3: Recon.

@NEStalgia Cause native ports are better for smaller and lighter games. It makes no sense to stream something like among us. When that'll run just fine on native mobile hardware. Cloud stream should be a last-ditch effort to play game that literally can't be run on the hardware.

@Markatron84 Capcom and Ubisoft ports was $30($40 in the case of RE7) for games that barely ran and was limited to the highest end devices. People will buy games if they make sense for the platform, cheap, and run well. Older games are perfect for this as they are lighter on the hardware and can be price between $5-10.

"if you can't get Assassin's Creed to sell, what can you?"

The funny parts it that the SpongeBob remake ports on mobile have sold better than Assassin's Creed...

@NEStalgia I mean... Yeah. But Microsoft has a ton of stuff that isn't King or Minecraft that could benefit from a native port. There is always that strange possibility of them just having us stream games. With us just download a separate client app for each game.

I'm still very much excited to see how this turns out. I really hope they plan on native games, and not cloud games for this mobile store. A native port of the old halo games would be great as well as a more mobile friendly port of the Forza games.

@Savage_Joe Given how close these studios are to each... A ton of these ex-Bungie devs are probably already ex-343i devs and vice versa... So, it probably not going to really help 343i.

@Pigrotto idk… Do any body think the Samsung Galaxy phone are superior to iPhone cause it the S24 instead of the S14? or that the the red magic 8 pro is inferior to the iPhone 15?

Xbox would have been fine going with a number.

They’ve need a cloud tier since like forever. I would gladly subbed to that to play games on my iPhone and iPad. Buying ultimate has always been a waste of money for me since I don’t have an Xbox and I don’t use the Xbox app on PC (Steam forever!!!!)

@NEStalgia They also aren't just pushing Cloud gaming through Amazon. They've been pushing it through Samsung, and Meta with the Quest 3 getting support last year in December.

The issue is that MS themselves can't directly support their own game stream service. The EU and Uk regulators won't let them. So, Microsoft are stuck having to find ways around that... MS technically don't even own the right to stream their own games. Ubisoft own the cloud streaming right to CoD.

@NEStalgia I just want to point out that Series X hardware blades launched it 2021, with the upgrade being completed by Oct of that year.

This is also when they were splitting up the Series X blades into running 2-3 Series S instances instead... This was around the time of Forza Horizon 5 and Halo Infinite launch as everyone (myself included) was complaining that games weren't the Series X version. So that had nothing to do with the ABK purchase and was something they was doing years before.

@Xbox_Dashboard "Cloud gaming will never hit the desired levels of latency that on board gaming can."

Cloud streaming could never beat the latency offered by a Native PC game with keyboard and mouse, but cloud streaming services like GeForce Now has already come close to and have beaten latency offered by consoles 2 years ago. I don't know the modern number now, but with stuff like Reflex and the new gen of GPU it probably better than anything we have on Xbox Series X and PS5.

@OldGamer999 They keep pushing cause it a viable solution when everything works well.

The big issue is that companies are all failing on one or more aspect that could make streaming great.

Stadia = Great hardware, terrible game library. xCloud = Great library, terrible hardware. GeForce = Fantastic hardware, an okay library but too heavily depended on you already owning the games which make it a big ask for people who don't already have a massive steam library.

It also doesn't help that these low-cost streaming devices like Firestick aren't all great for game streaming. Game stream still require decent hardware with a very good NIC/Wifi Card and an SoC cable of good decoding. Most devices don't have this.

Not surprising considering the recent everything must go sale, and the fact FH5 is still Xbox best racer. Due to FM being a massive disappointment considering the development time.

@Banjo- My dream car is a manual Mustang GT in Ben 10 green (lol) with black stripes. I know, pretty basic, but I enjoy mustangs. But car in game was the PP1 with the 2018 refresh they did for S550 generation. I added sport spring in game, so it was slightly lowered.

But in 2019, the speciality color for that year was a green that basically matched the green that I picked in game and came stock from factory with black stripes. I ordered one brand new from Ford it the same PP1 configuration, active exhaust, with the upgraded interior, and of course in manual.

@Banjo- Damn. Six year!?!?!? It feels like this game just came out yesterday. I remember picking the game up, creating my dream car, then purchasing the exact same dream car a couple months later in the same car, and configuration

@Kezelpaso @GuyinPA75 BF3 was so bad on consoles that it used to make me physically ill from playing it.

Even Anno is coming to consoles day and date. That crazy.

@teknium_ They could definitely filled another hour. I’m guessing they don’t want to avoid fake cinematic trailer from their in house studios this year

@northernmonkey75 “ No mention of Activision additions to Game Pass, no shadow drop, no Xbox portable and no Banjo”

Doesn’t Xbox usually hope after showcase events where they do deep dives on game, and announced further thing? Pointless to waste time announcing that stuff doing the main showcase