@Realist is it, though? Like I said, every single mechanic bar-none is, generously, lacklustre. At its absolute best this game never raises itself anything above being solidly average. Most of it is downright bad. Even as improved as it is, it still isn't a good game. The whole thing feels like a jumble of mismatched parts. Like a Star Wars game made by committee.
I've been playing this recently, and I've switched between Outlaws and Jedi Survivor, and it's really thrown into stark relief for me how good Jedi Survivor is, and how bad Outlaws is.
Even now, every single mechanic in Outlaws is clumsily implemented. Stealth is still half-hearted, combat is lacklustre, and levels are beautiful, empty settings for poorly paced action. Every single part of the game feels half-hearted.
It's an incredibly pretty game apart from the fact that it has some of the most aggressive resolution upscaling of any game I've seen since Veilguard, although Jedi utterly destroys it in the looks department, but it's a husk. Basic stealth features are either missing entirely (seriously, what stealth game in about the last ten years doesn't allow you to move bodies?) or broken (the number of times I've taken out an enemy from hiding to be spotted by enemies who couldn't possibly have seen me). Traversal is messy, which in a game which is basically Assassin's Creed in space, is an absolute travesty. The speeder combat is such an awful mess that it should have been canned entirely, which would be forgivable if actually traversing the world on the speeder was fun, which it isn't, particularly.
Its a game that is far less than the sum of its parts.
It's such a shame because it shows how good this kind of small story can work in a rich world like Star Wars, and it makes me pine for what a modern Star Wars RPG could have been. But this game? It's a janky, bug-filled, barely functional mess, even now.
My sub ran out in December, and I haven't renewed. There just isn't a compelling enough offer for me anymore. Ultimate is rammed full of stuff I don't want to pay for, and the tiers under that are missing features that I want, so I just cancelled. A lot of the games have been disappointing or obvious filler, particularly the Xbox first-party games, and some of the practices (labelling free games as GamePass) feel downright deceptive.
It's one thing Sony has always done better, and Xbox should implement, although it's probably a little late now. Getting a Platinum for a game is so much more satisfying than just racking up points. I had a fair number of games that I platted on PS, but on Xbox, I'm just kind of... 'meh'. I remember when they brought the points in, there was talk of them being worth something. But that never happened.
This is deeply disappointing. I came back to Horizon a while ago and realised I really didn't gel with it. I far prefer the 'sim-light' feel of Motorsport. To hear that this product has been dumped by MS is gutting. I thought Motosport was a game with a bright future. Yes it needed some tweaks, there were parts in there that were a mistake, but with some love, it could have been brilliant.
I let my GamePass sub lapse this year, and I won't be resubbing, and decisions like this are part of the reason why.
I got as far as "I need to go to the video store to return my copy of The Dark Crystal" and uninstalled it. I can't deal with that level of awful writing. We get it. It's the nineties.Tell Me Why was exactly the same, I don't get the hype, they're super clumsy.
This month is the first month since even Xbox Live was first launched that I've let my subscription lapse. This latest drop hasn't convinced me that I'm wrong.
I'm looking at the offering from Xbox, and instead of 'the greatest deal in gaming', all I see is a set of tiers that don't really serve me, and a bloated service stuffed with filler. I want day one releases - but I couldn't care less about Fortnite. I don't want the dog water Ubi+ sub, I'm not even that bothered about EA, to be honest. So, since the price increase, none of the tiers suits me.
Before I cancelled my sub, I had 50+ games installed on my Xbox - three of them were GamePass. Out of the last 42 GamePass releases, there were five that I thought were compelling, and I already owned two of them.
It's worth knowing that 'A Game About Digging A Hole' can be completed in under two hours, and once it's done, it's done. I have it on Steam, and my total playtime 119 minutes.
And, what the hell is a "soulslike deckbuilder"? That's just word soup.
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Re: Report: Microsoft Is Set To Launch An Xbox Cloud Gaming Ad-Tier This Year
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Re: Footage From Xbox's Cancelled ZeniMax Online Game Leaks, Looks Very Cyberpunk
It looks like The Ascent, but first person. Interesting. There aren't enough soft scifi games. Obviously, now there'll be one fewer...
Re: Poll: What Are Your First Impressions Of Star Wars Outlaws On Xbox Game Pass?
@Realist is it, though? Like I said, every single mechanic bar-none is, generously, lacklustre. At its absolute best this game never raises itself anything above being solidly average. Most of it is downright bad. Even as improved as it is, it still isn't a good game. The whole thing feels like a jumble of mismatched parts. Like a Star Wars game made by committee.
Re: Poll: What Are Your First Impressions Of Star Wars Outlaws On Xbox Game Pass?
I've been playing this recently, and I've switched between Outlaws and Jedi Survivor, and it's really thrown into stark relief for me how good Jedi Survivor is, and how bad Outlaws is.
Even now, every single mechanic in Outlaws is clumsily implemented. Stealth is still half-hearted, combat is lacklustre, and levels are beautiful, empty settings for poorly paced action. Every single part of the game feels half-hearted.
It's an incredibly pretty game apart from the fact that it has some of the most aggressive resolution upscaling of any game I've seen since Veilguard, although Jedi utterly destroys it in the looks department, but it's a husk. Basic stealth features are either missing entirely (seriously, what stealth game in about the last ten years doesn't allow you to move bodies?) or broken (the number of times I've taken out an enemy from hiding to be spotted by enemies who couldn't possibly have seen me). Traversal is messy, which in a game which is basically Assassin's Creed in space, is an absolute travesty. The speeder combat is such an awful mess that it should have been canned entirely, which would be forgivable if actually traversing the world on the speeder was fun, which it isn't, particularly.
Its a game that is far less than the sum of its parts.
It's such a shame because it shows how good this kind of small story can work in a rich world like Star Wars, and it makes me pine for what a modern Star Wars RPG could have been. But this game? It's a janky, bug-filled, barely functional mess, even now.
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About Xbox Game Pass In 2026?
My sub ran out in December, and I haven't renewed. There just isn't a compelling enough offer for me anymore. Ultimate is rammed full of stuff I don't want to pay for, and the tiers under that are missing features that I want, so I just cancelled. A lot of the games have been disappointing or obvious filler, particularly the Xbox first-party games, and some of the practices (labelling free games as GamePass) feel downright deceptive.
Haven't missed it at all, to be honest.
Re: Talking Point: What Have You Bought In The Xbox Countdown Sale This Year?
@themightyant - umm doesn't Anthem become unplayable in less than a week? 😬
Re: These Games Are Coming To Xbox Next Week (January 5-9)
Another week, another Kemco RPG Maker poop. Surely there'll be more Outbreak bundles. Didn't MS say they were going to stop those?
Re: Three Casual Xbox Games Arrived For 'Free' Over Christmas, Easy Achievements On Offer
It's one thing Sony has always done better, and Xbox should implement, although it's probably a little late now. Getting a Platinum for a game is so much more satisfying than just racking up points. I had a fair number of games that I platted on PS, but on Xbox, I'm just kind of... 'meh'. I remember when they brought the points in, there was talk of them being worth something. But that never happened.
Re: As Forza Motorsport Winds Down, Gran Turismo Is Experiencing A 'Phenomenon' At PlayStation
This is deeply disappointing. I came back to Horizon a while ago and realised I really didn't gel with it. I far prefer the 'sim-light' feel of Motorsport. To hear that this product has been dumped by MS is gutting. I thought Motosport was a game with a bright future. Yes it needed some tweaks, there were parts in there that were a mistake, but with some love, it could have been brilliant.
I let my GamePass sub lapse this year, and I won't be resubbing, and decisions like this are part of the reason why.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of Lost Records: Bloom & Rage On Xbox Game Pass?
I got as far as "I need to go to the video store to return my copy of The Dark Crystal" and uninstalled it. I can't deal with that level of awful writing. We get it. It's the nineties.Tell Me Why was exactly the same, I don't get the hype, they're super clumsy.
Re: Four Games Are Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (December 9)
This month is the first month since even Xbox Live was first launched that I've let my subscription lapse. This latest drop hasn't convinced me that I'm wrong.
I'm looking at the offering from Xbox, and instead of 'the greatest deal in gaming', all I see is a set of tiers that don't really serve me, and a bloated service stuffed with filler. I want day one releases - but I couldn't care less about Fortnite. I don't want the dog water Ubi+ sub, I'm not even that bothered about EA, to be honest. So, since the price increase, none of the tiers suits me.
Before I cancelled my sub, I had 50+ games installed on my Xbox - three of them were GamePass. Out of the last 42 GamePass releases, there were five that I thought were compelling, and I already owned two of them.
It's worth knowing that 'A Game About Digging A Hole' can be completed in under two hours, and once it's done, it's done. I have it on Steam, and my total playtime 119 minutes.
And, what the hell is a "soulslike deckbuilder"? That's just word soup.