What a lot of people are failing to realize and factor in is Gears Reloaded released at the same time as the MGS3 remake.
As big as Gears has been for Microsoft, MGS has been huge for PS and other platforms. The remake was highly anticipated. Gears would have been better off releasing later this month or even in October. 250k on PS5, one of which was me, is definitely low, but looking at what also released around it, it's not surprising. Hopefully it picks up steam so the rest of the series comes over.
I would suspect that E-Day would sell way better on PS5 with it being the most current in the series. But I'd still like the rest of the series as well. The 360 titles would definitely need a bit of polish graphically, but 4 and 5 could definitely get away with being straight ports. A collection would also probably be the best way to go. If they're expecting people to pay $40 per title for games that are mostly well over 10 years old, they're simply being way too greedy. $100 for a complete collection would definitely sell though as it'd carry a lot of value, plus catch people up in one go as opposed to trickling them in over the next 5 or 6 years.
@GamingFan4Lyf it'd be no different than now. When you're worth trillions, any money made at that point is just drops in a bucket. Their problems are much more deeply rooted issues that's always been in the company for its history.
Business tactics, overbearing micromanagement of acquired companies that forces key employees that made the acquired company what it was away, and greed. Every huge corporation has that last issue, so we can't really knock MS for it, although the lengths they've gone to are definitely the corporate gold standards. But the micromanagement is what leads to dips in quality. They're too rich to be punished legitimately for their business tactics. Too many politicians and other key government officials around the world in their pockets. But none of that means anything when they prove they can't maintain quality without the people that made the acquired products they bought to produce and 'innovate'.
This statement is pretty curious considering just recently, Spencer said that Activision would require a bigger sales percentage if COD became exclusive to Xbox. And before you say this applies to when the content deal with Sony expires (a content deal Microsoft once had with Activision for those that remember), this ABK deal was always going to take a considerable amount of time, with 2023 being the earliest that they could close the deal unless there were regulator objections, which happened. The Sony COD content deal expires in 2024. So this statement is actually contradictory to contractual facts and the passage of time needed to close the deal.
In other words, COD will never be Day 1 on Game Pass. If you think Microsoft is going to forego guaranteed game sales when they've admitted that Game Pass is detrimental to game sales, you're crazy. Day 1 is a gimmick that they will phase out by next gen once they control ABK and COD will never release Day 1 because of the amount of sales it generates yearly. Getting the wool pulled over your eyes, people. Think logically here.
@GiveMeMoney no. Sony bought Bungie and told them they can make any IP they want and not be locked into one title like they were with Halo, which is why they left Microsoft. They also said they could release their games on any platform they want, but they get a first look obviously. I'm sure if they think it's a monster IP, they'll pay Bungie more for exclusivity.
@GiveMeMoney anything so Microsoft can force themselves into having to dealt with by other companies, right? That's all the AKB acquisition is and all the acquisitions from the past few years as well. Them spending stupid amounts of money to make themselves stay alive in an industry they haven't really cared about in a long time. Still don't understand why gamers think they care about them. It's clear they don't. But they sure have spent money in public and behind the scenes to make it seem like they do.
The Xbox brand is going to be a service eventually. That's the ultimate goal. They've spent the money to ensure AKB goes through obviously. I highly doubt FCC blocks it at this point, not with Microsoft's paid for politicians speaking for them now. They may try another console if Sony refuses to work with them, but MS has bought so many huge third party devs with beloved franchises that Sony is going to have to work with them if they want those franchises on their console, which many of their customers will want. And that's the issue right there that people seem to be fine with. A company buying up so many other companies that it forces their competition to have to go through MS if they want to remain competitive, even though by doing so ensures they have to lose what would be profits for them to their 'competition'. MS only cares about forcing their way onto other platforms and into people's homes. The most they 'cared' about gaming and gamers was back in the 360 days and even then, it became about milking people out of their money about midway through that gen. To have that much of a lead in console sales only to relinquish that lead to a console that, while an impressive machine, was so ill conceived and executed that it was a nightmare to develop for its entire lifespan and still causes problems to this day (PS3 games unable to run on anything natively unless it has the CELL processor is something Sony is still paying for. That's why cloud emulation or very costly ports are the only options to bring PS3 gen games to subsequent generations.), is a huge red flag. And MS only got worse from there. Sure, they could brag they made the 'most powerful console' this gen and last gen, but they did nothing to create value for these consoles by investing in actual games. All they did was demand more of the same so they could milk the same franchises over and over while canceling new IPs or not care enough to help developers on new IPs. Bungie breaking off from them in the way they did truly says it all.
They've bought themselves into a position that no matter what, they win. And that's when quality suffers.
@Sebatrox @Sebatrox how many from the past few years, was talked about for more than a week or two, and didn't have Game Pass 'hype', i.e. a game that wouldn't even be talked about or played if it wasn't ''free'', AND isn't a simulator of power washing/farming/firefighter/white knight?
Touting games from very early Xbone gen and before, mostly 360, doesn't justify buying an Xbox. It justifies their eventual transformation into a service when they feel they have enough studios and devs under their control to be able to force their way onto every platform if any competitors actually want third party games for their gamers.
Ffs people, stop thinking of Game Pass when it comes to the state of Xbox, especially if you're still riding on finessed $1 Game Pass. A subscription service with a forced monthly payment with no bundled months payment options for a slight discount is not a reason to say Xbox is 'good'. Their checkbook is literally their only saving grace right now. I'll be glad when this ABK deal is done because I'm tired of hearing about it and it'll shift focus onto the lack of exclusive games once again, like it should be. Buy all these studios over the last 4 years and they've released HOW MANY games? It's straight up embarrassing. When the most talked about games are ones nobody would have tried out and only did because of Game Pass, that's a problem. A big one.
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Re: Xbox's PS5 Strategy Pays Off As Gears Reloaded Easily Passes 1 Million Players In Under A Week
What a lot of people are failing to realize and factor in is Gears Reloaded released at the same time as the MGS3 remake.
As big as Gears has been for Microsoft, MGS has been huge for PS and other platforms. The remake was highly anticipated. Gears would have been better off releasing later this month or even in October. 250k on PS5, one of which was me, is definitely low, but looking at what also released around it, it's not surprising. Hopefully it picks up steam so the rest of the series comes over.
I would suspect that E-Day would sell way better on PS5 with it being the most current in the series. But I'd still like the rest of the series as well. The 360 titles would definitely need a bit of polish graphically, but 4 and 5 could definitely get away with being straight ports. A collection would also probably be the best way to go. If they're expecting people to pay $40 per title for games that are mostly well over 10 years old, they're simply being way too greedy. $100 for a complete collection would definitely sell though as it'd carry a lot of value, plus catch people up in one go as opposed to trickling them in over the next 5 or 6 years.
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@GamingFan4Lyf it'd be no different than now. When you're worth trillions, any money made at that point is just drops in a bucket. Their problems are much more deeply rooted issues that's always been in the company for its history.
Business tactics, overbearing micromanagement of acquired companies that forces key employees that made the acquired company what it was away, and greed. Every huge corporation has that last issue, so we can't really knock MS for it, although the lengths they've gone to are definitely the corporate gold standards. But the micromanagement is what leads to dips in quality. They're too rich to be punished legitimately for their business tactics. Too many politicians and other key government officials around the world in their pockets. But none of that means anything when they prove they can't maintain quality without the people that made the acquired products they bought to produce and 'innovate'.
Re: Call Of Duty Will Be 'Restricted' On Xbox Game Pass, Confirms Microsoft
This statement is pretty curious considering just recently, Spencer said that Activision would require a bigger sales percentage if COD became exclusive to Xbox. And before you say this applies to when the content deal with Sony expires (a content deal Microsoft once had with Activision for those that remember), this ABK deal was always going to take a considerable amount of time, with 2023 being the earliest that they could close the deal unless there were regulator objections, which happened. The Sony COD content deal expires in 2024. So this statement is actually contradictory to contractual facts and the passage of time needed to close the deal.
In other words, COD will never be Day 1 on Game Pass. If you think Microsoft is going to forego guaranteed game sales when they've admitted that Game Pass is detrimental to game sales, you're crazy. Day 1 is a gimmick that they will phase out by next gen once they control ABK and COD will never release Day 1 because of the amount of sales it generates yearly. Getting the wool pulled over your eyes, people. Think logically here.
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@GiveMeMoney no. Sony bought Bungie and told them they can make any IP they want and not be locked into one title like they were with Halo, which is why they left Microsoft. They also said they could release their games on any platform they want, but they get a first look obviously. I'm sure if they think it's a monster IP, they'll pay Bungie more for exclusivity.
Re: Lots Of Games Confirmed For Xbox Following PlayStation Showcase 2023
@TakeItEasy buying third party titles... the irony is rich in that comment.
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@GiveMeMoney anything so Microsoft can force themselves into having to dealt with by other companies, right? That's all the AKB acquisition is and all the acquisitions from the past few years as well. Them spending stupid amounts of money to make themselves stay alive in an industry they haven't really cared about in a long time. Still don't understand why gamers think they care about them. It's clear they don't. But they sure have spent money in public and behind the scenes to make it seem like they do.
The Xbox brand is going to be a service eventually. That's the ultimate goal. They've spent the money to ensure AKB goes through obviously. I highly doubt FCC blocks it at this point, not with Microsoft's paid for politicians speaking for them now. They may try another console if Sony refuses to work with them, but MS has bought so many huge third party devs with beloved franchises that Sony is going to have to work with them if they want those franchises on their console, which many of their customers will want. And that's the issue right there that people seem to be fine with. A company buying up so many other companies that it forces their competition to have to go through MS if they want to remain competitive, even though by doing so ensures they have to lose what would be profits for them to their 'competition'. MS only cares about forcing their way onto other platforms and into people's homes. The most they 'cared' about gaming and gamers was back in the 360 days and even then, it became about milking people out of their money about midway through that gen. To have that much of a lead in console sales only to relinquish that lead to a console that, while an impressive machine, was so ill conceived and executed that it was a nightmare to develop for its entire lifespan and still causes problems to this day (PS3 games unable to run on anything natively unless it has the CELL processor is something Sony is still paying for. That's why cloud emulation or very costly ports are the only options to bring PS3 gen games to subsequent generations.), is a huge red flag. And MS only got worse from there. Sure, they could brag they made the 'most powerful console' this gen and last gen, but they did nothing to create value for these consoles by investing in actual games. All they did was demand more of the same so they could milk the same franchises over and over while canceling new IPs or not care enough to help developers on new IPs. Bungie breaking off from them in the way they did truly says it all.
They've bought themselves into a position that no matter what, they win. And that's when quality suffers.
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@Sebatrox @Sebatrox how many from the past few years, was talked about for more than a week or two, and didn't have Game Pass 'hype', i.e. a game that wouldn't even be talked about or played if it wasn't ''free'', AND isn't a simulator of power washing/farming/firefighter/white knight?
Touting games from very early Xbone gen and before, mostly 360, doesn't justify buying an Xbox. It justifies their eventual transformation into a service when they feel they have enough studios and devs under their control to be able to force their way onto every platform if any competitors actually want third party games for their gamers.
Ffs people, stop thinking of Game Pass when it comes to the state of Xbox, especially if you're still riding on finessed $1 Game Pass. A subscription service with a forced monthly payment with no bundled months payment options for a slight discount is not a reason to say Xbox is 'good'. Their checkbook is literally their only saving grace right now. I'll be glad when this ABK deal is done because I'm tired of hearing about it and it'll shift focus onto the lack of exclusive games once again, like it should be. Buy all these studios over the last 4 years and they've released HOW MANY games? It's straight up embarrassing. When the most talked about games are ones nobody would have tried out and only did because of Game Pass, that's a problem. A big one.