These 12 Games Are Leaving Xbox Game Pass Today (September 30)

@FraserG Do you know anything about Forza Horizon 4? It will be four years old in two days, will it be removed from the store (I don't mean from Game Pass) like every Forza title? I bought the Forza Horizon 4 Ultimate Add-Ons Bundle but not the game itself. I guess more people did the same because of Game Pass.

Shame to lose visage. Have it on ps5 and it’s a decent horror game that’s perfect for halloween…so it’s a shame they couldn’t have kept it till then and get more eyes on it

@Banjo- it will probably stay till the licences on the music expires. That’s the problem with racing and sports games. Probably the main reason we’ll never get PGR backwards compat because they can’t put it on the service…I wish they would just let those that own the disc play it though at least…I’d love to play that again

@FraserG @Grumblevolcano pasted this link.

https://forums.forza.net/t/fh4-end-of-life/556886

It's great news that a new kind of deal was agreed for the series!

@Bleachedsmiles I always wondered why devs just don't patch the music out or replace with something open source rather than remove from sale when those sort of licences expire

Might be harder for track or car licenses I guess for driving games. Still to me keeping a game on a store front even if diminished is better than not at all.

Obviously not a game dev so I don't know the actual in and out but I imagine it's a whole tangled legal mess in reality.

@BBB @Bleachedsmiles

I guess that the problem is the car licencing. Ferrari was said to be a handful and there are so many brands. I don't know what would they complain about if it's high-tech advertising and they are paid on top of that!

I'm still sad that a 60fps update was never released for Forza Horizon 3 when the Windows version got it. I love that game.

@themightyant Excellent news, indeed! Not just available on Game Pass but still available for purchase after four years, unlike previous games.

@Banjo- yeah that’s a good point. With a series I just assumed car licences carried over..as the FH games seems to always have the same cars but add to them. I guess things can fall through the cracks though.

If they ever bring back PGR I honestly wouldn’t complain if they didn’t have real licensed cars tbh. I just want that track based arcade racer again with the easy and functional online. I just don’t have the patience for FHs online anymore.

@Bleachedsmiles I've never played PGR but I'm curious about it because everybody wants it back.

@Banjo- It was truly awesome. To be fair a late part of that was because online gaming was so new…mics came with every 360 and we were all on them. And the community was more mature minded so there seemed to be less toxicity. So the nostalgia in me has fond memories of having awesome races with awesome people…playing one of the best looking games at the time. And it all simply worked.

If they brought it back now the reality is it would probably be riddled with microtransactions, broken lobbies, and a handful of people on mics…with the majority being annoying.
But… I’d still like to see them try.

@Bleachedsmiles That's right. I didn't have the Xbox 360 so I missed all that, but I have a fond memory of Monster Hunter Tri on Wii in spite of the clunky communication options. I got a keyboard for the console and Wii Speak, the latter is utter rubbish.

It's true that online communication seemed to be better before!

@Banjo- I recently played Forza Horizon 3 for the first time, and it's really good, better than I expected. I would rank it as a close second after 4.

I really like that one of the radio stations is more Burnout 3 esque too, rather than the usual electro.

@Raffles It's the first Forza Horizon game that I played. It's a shame that it hasn't received a 60fps option on any console but still worth playing.