Phil Spencer Says New Quick Resume Feature Is 'On The List' At Xbox

@Kaloudz Haha.
Exactly, maybe this guy would like Phil to come round and turn the console off for him too.

EDIT:
I get that this would be a nice new feature (I suppose), but does everything need to be automated?
There are always things you have to do when using any operating system, computer, tablet or phone.
Not everything is done for you. Learn to use the OS! SMH

EDIT 2:
I use accessibility features; I actually have one mapped to the share button, this proposed feature is a different thing entirety.

@Kaloudz @JetmanUK So ignorant and short sighted. Just because a feature works for you, doesn't make it one size fits all. I have young kids who leave games in QR and then wonder why they are broke when they reload that game later.
So yes, adding this feature isn't lazy, it's great.

@dannnylee Or perhaps if your kids are old enough to be able to understand how to use a controller to play a video game they can surely press the menu button and scroll down to quit....

I mainly play single player games and I love quick resume. It could be a little more consistent but it’s great.

@Kaloudz you're thinking selfishly, it not a feature that works for you but it will help out others. I bet you don't bash on accessibility features but here you are, saying it's not hard to push two buttons.
Grow up, think before you speak and respect the whole community not just yours.

@Kaloudz I dunno mate, sometimes when I game I slouch a little and get a bit achy.
Do you think they could update the console so it could give me a little massage when I hit Turn off console, nothing seedy, a sport massage?

Personally, I hope the rewards page is on the list of ‘to fix’. It’s only a case of ‘pressing B’ but it gets annoying as hell when it’s regularly loading up broken links, or sending you back to bing again before you can collect your points. It should be more Intuitive.
Would also be nice if they added the rewards app to the gamepass mobile app too.

I mainly play single player but even with that quick resume often doesn’t work on certain first party games like halo…I definitely lost progress a few times there…where you can’t manually save and rely on autosaves. So fixing that isn’t exactly going to harm gamers regardless of if you play online or not

A Option to just remove/Turn off Quick Resume completely would be Good.

With the faster load times, I just dont think Quick Resume is needed. but I dont switch from game to game every 5 minutes. Probably why i dont see the benefit.

@Kaloudz I always turn off my games after playing them and tbh I forgot quick resume was a thing. Don't know how your comment is short sighted when it only takes 2 buttons to turn off the game.

@Kaloudz Well I have so little time to game properly at the moment, moving house and renovations. I can't wait to get normal life back, whatever that is, I can't remember!

When I can I will be back on PUBG and trying out some Gamepass stuff, so much to play. How about you?

I still find quick resume useful for online games. With GTA I quit to main menu before I leave the game. Then when I come back I've skipped the initial load and just need to join a session.

@Solidchief people complaining just to start stuff online. Anonymity makes everyone an internet tough-guy.

@JetmanUK not everything has to be automated, I completely agree.
But this is a half-baked feature in beta being deployed to general users. Personally, I don't think it's about automation, it's about cognitive load (having to remember which games will go bonkers), and extra clicks/interactions (having to close aforementioned games).
There are 2 possible solutions I see:

• allow developers to flag their games as Quick resume incompatible, and that will allow Xbox to shut them down automatically
• slightly worse, allow user to only have to shut these games down once (creating a local Quick resume incompatibility list)

Anyway, I don't see it as automation problem, I see it as poor UI/UX problem.

@Cikajovazmaj I do think that both of your ideas sound like a good way to deal with this (if people need it, good for them, this may help).

I do stand by that for me, and some others at least, this is a 'first world problem' to a tea.

@Kharjo This is a good point, I have done similar things with online games myself. Exiting the game at the optimal point and picking up from there with Quick Resume.

This is prime example of understanding a feature and smartly using an OS.

It's much better to know how to use something, gain real control and make things happen that even the devs didn't think about when implementing a feature. That is why it's so beneficial to know how to use something properly instead of wanting everything automated. An online game would probably just get excluded from the feature in an automated solution, whereas using your brain like you have has made it work.

Great post!

I'd really rather they just fix Quick Resume so it's reliable. It's the best feature of the platform, but it seems like it causes problems in at least a third of games.

@YouTrash Even if games are fast to load to the menu screen, so many games force you to wait for so many logo titles or opening animations to get to the menu, then click through the menu, then wait for a load or load animation, and worse, then start you at a checkpoint or last save. On a game like Yakuza 0 that could roll back a half hour of playtime or more. Of course that particular game doesn't behave with Quick Resume and usually freezes the console or crashes anyway.

One thing I do wish they'd add is just using the traditional suspend state like X1, Switch, PS4/5 if you have instant-on set instead of using QR, to bypass the brokenness of some games in QR for the running game.

@JetmanUK I don't think this is a "first world problem" at all, and that might be because I am a software developer. Getting software on your platform into an unexpected state (meaning with unhandled errors; erroneous states can and should still be expected) is a proof of bad design.
The solution around that should never be for end user to learn when unexpected errors might happen in runtime and quit program in prevention! Just think about what it would look like if one of the spreadsheets you use at work crashed when you copied C13 to D12.. and instead of that being a terrible bug, your whole company just learns not to copy between those two cells in that particular document.

@Fenbops
Same here, campaign single players game.
Quick resume is a fantastic feature.
One minute I’m, FH5 then ACV then Deathloop.

@Cikajovazmaj Interesting analogy, but for me... way over the top.

I just see this as something that already has a decent solution, a simple solution. I would much rather they spent dev resource time on other matters, matters that don't have a solution in place already, then get round to trivial 'issues' like this.

Opinions though, right?

@Kaloudz Ah man, Prodeus (?) it looks awesome.

Yeah, I need a more chilled time, I am just glad that I am not someone who gets my knickers in a twist over quick resume. haha
PUBG is in the best state that it's been in, especially if you play on a Series console.

@JetmanUK man I’m 41 and sometimes I just turn tv off but I also have one of those all in one remotes and my stuff is in a ventilated cabinet out of the way so I get it.

Recently learned the HDMI CEC control works both ways w my tv and Xbox, so I set that up. Thought it was an older revision and it was one way

@NEStalgia I didn't realize some games took Half an hour to get playing, Longest loading game i've played is Borderlands 3 and it takes 1 min 30 sec. Forza horizon 5 is less than a min.

I Could see it been useful for games that take ages to load (If/when Quick Resume even works)

@YouTrash Only Lego City Undercover on WiiU took a half hour to get playing. But seriously waiting 1:30 is a long time to wait to get into a game when you could instead wait 5 seconds. It's relative. If you're playing for 3 hours, 1:30 isn't a long wait. If you've got 20 minutes, the wait is almost 8% of your play time. 1:30 is half an entire Splatoon match.

Remember QR not working is a step BACKWARD from X1 (and current PS5/NSW) where suspend mode just means you turn it on and there's your game right where you left it. Since XSXS doesn't support the old style suspend even in instant on and uses QR instead, that means on an X1, PS5, or NSW you don't have to wait for load, but on an XSXS you do.

But the other big, honestly much more significant issue is saves. For games without save-anywhere or frequent checkpoints, QR working vs not is the difference between "I have to spend another half hour playing to find a save point before I can stop" vs "push button, resume later" - which does happen to work better on PS5/NSW simply because their old school suspend still works, while QR is dodgy.

I also have an outside scenario for cloud gaming, where I use a phone/Kishi and play in short bursts like a handheld. I stopped using xcloud for that because by the time I go through the menus I've lost half my pick up and play time. So I stream from an XSS locally so I can stream with QR and pick up and play. When it works...which....isn't nearly enough.

Edit: I'm also impatient though, in the FH4 load screen with the irritating Playground dashboard logo screen I'd mercilessly mash A to make me feel like I'm making it go faster and stop the agony of being forced to wait. I leapt for joy when they stopped forcing that wait for the screen in the first FH5 patch.

gotta' go fast!

@NEStalgia I still think having the option to remove or turn off QR is Good for people that want to. Options are always good.

I Can see QR is Important to you and You value your time. I played Borderlands 3 on Xbox one befor I got Series s and it took like 6 minutes, I admit It was a wait but alot of games have reduced load times now. Cant imagine what you was like previous generations if you think 1:30 is long.

I hope they fix it for the people that use it and also give the option to turn it off.

@YouTrash PS360 games loaded fast enough. PS2 was a chore, but I was more PC-focused at the time so things were pretty fast. I didn't get X1 until the X came out, but PS4 was a painful slog for that first year and a half when they promised suspend mode, but didn't deliver it for a long time. Once suspend came out it was fine, I just usually leave games on suspend on the 1X and PS4/5. And Switch naturally just works that way. XSXS is perplexing, since it has both the very best suspend mode ever (QR) but 30% of the time it doesn't work at all, making it worse than the traditional suspends

Being able to turn it off isn't a bad option, especially for online GaaS games that simply don't work, though most of them are "ok" with QR, they just kick you out to the main menu when you start the game which is actually probably faster than watching the title logos and disclaimers play out. But there are some, such as Yakuza 0 where using it means the game is 50% lockly to lock or crash when you restart it, or Tales of Arise that's 100% likely to lock the next graphic novel scene after a Quick Resume it would be handy.

I still wish they'd allow a traditional suspend without QR though. Fast load when switching games is one thing, but just suspending your progress between save points is, to me, just a modern console basic function. Some games (yakuza 0!!!) go WAAAY too long between saves. Probably a bigger problem for Japanese games, but there are some games like that where between gameplay, cutscenes and just segment length you can go an hour between saves. If you can't suspend, you have to replay the whole hour of a 100+ hour game. Nothing irritates me more than having to redo something I've already done. It's why I don't touch Soulsborne

@Kaloudz nah that's just extra, when I'm done with a game I don't wanna press this and that I wanna click my games and apps and instantly start either YouTube Crunchyroll or another game, if ur a person who played on xb1 for 8 years ur used to not manually closing the game bc it did it for you, plus ik if I was to manually close online games I would probably accidently close offline games that I didn't want to close bc in used to closing online games, I'd rather just turn off the feature for online games

@Kaloudz Apparently I am being a 'd***'.

I didn't read the rest, it's not a good idea to start a post that way really. Even if he had some good/interesting points he was dead in the water right there.

It also makes me wonder where the moderators are on this site. Hmmmm

Yeah, it's not much effort to hit menu and quit when you end a play session but you shouldn't have to.

And it's great that it always works for you, but it doesn't always work for everyone.

So people love a feature that saves a few button clicks (Smart Delivery) But defend a somewhat broken feature that needs button clicks for certain games every time you play them AND can make them crash???? Smart Delivery and Quick Resume should be able to be turned off per game. Both can be annoying and shouldn't be forced on

@Kaloudz Was all good thanks, I hope yours was too.

I was on with more house renovations, moving in is getting closer now, it's nice to be moving into a large place.
I will have my own 'Music Room' (as I am calling it).
Some would call it a man cave, basically, consoles and guitars with some (possibly odd) decor choices all of my own, will be nice. The Mrs is getting her office, I think I am using my own room more creatively! Ha

I hope you enjoy PUBG. Drop me your tag I will play when I finally get back on.