Microsoft's Xbox Game Pass subscription service has undoubtedly had an incredible year, adding the likes of EA Play, a massive batch of Bethesda games and countless AAA titles, not to mention the arrival of Xbox Cloud Gaming.
Back in November, Sony's Jim Ryan stated that PlayStation had "news to come" about some kind of response to the success of Xbox Game Pass, and now God of War creator David Jaffe has weighed in on the topic.
Here's what Jaffe had to say in a live discussion on YouTube (transcribed by Video Games Chronicle):
“We had the guy on the show yesterday that had made the petition to fire Jim Ryan and I was like, ‘dude, that’s way premature’ because Jim Ryan doesn’t owe anybody, Sony doesn’t owe anybody, the truth about what’s coming and what their counterpunch to Game Pass is."
“What I can tell you is I know they are doing some stuff because I know people at Sony who have told me that they are doing some stuff. There will be a response to Game Pass."
Jaffe, who was director on the first two God of War games as well as creating the Twisted Metal series for PlayStation, admitted that he doesn't know what that response will be, so was unable to provide further details for now.
Despite teasing a response last year, Sony's Jim Ryan did state that PlayStation was "not going to go down the road of putting new releases into a subscription model," saying that "for us, [it] just doesn't make any sense."
How do you think Sony will respond to the success of Xbox Game Pass? Give us your thoughts below.
[source videogameschronicle.com, via youtube.com]
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Go go competition! I'm pretty sure it's a lot cheaper for MS to get 3rd party day n date into gamepass than it is for Sony/ Xbox to lock something up for a year or two of exclusivity so I see the new console exclusivity deals to be in gamepass or PS Now for a certain amount of time and blocking the other service from it. People will still be able to buy them but they won't be in the service for a period of time.
It’s a plain and simple policy, shouldn’t take this long. So much for “believing in generations”, so much for “Gamepass unprofitable”. 😂
And here's where Sony will fail: instead of focusing on what they excel at, they're just going to copy the competitor's strategy and end up losing that race. Sony just doesn't have the vast amount of resources that Microsoft has in order to be adding tons of games to a streaming service on a regular basis. At the end of the day, a PlayStation Game Pass is never going to even get close to the amazing value proposition that Xbox Game Pass is currently offering, but also will offer in the future when more acquisitions will be made and tons of first-party titles start getting added to the service on day one. You're just going to lose before you've even begun.
I actually hope that Sony does something like this. It would probably be the reason I get a PS4.
PS Now is not available in European countries even though PlayStation is very popular.
It all depends what 'stuff' he's talking about.
Sony doesn't have, nor really ever will have Microsofts infrastructure, so if they wanted to deliver a 1:1 service (streaming, cross progression, etc) they would have to keep paying MS for that like they are with PSNow, or partner with Google (which would make more sense to me).
Day 1 exclusive releases look to be the easy win, but is it financially viable if you don't have the full package that GP gives. I just can't see it.
In the end, it's all down to money and available resources/infrastructure, and Microsoft has both in abundance, and a huge head start.
I saw a rumor on this a few months back where Sony was going to basically package ps now and ps plus together. Maybe it’s more to it than that but if that’s all it is to “counter” game pass that might as well not do it. If you can’t get at least day and date indie/third party games it’s pointless imo.
I just can’t wait for all the Sony Gamepass haters to sign up to the equivalent day one and start telling us it’s the best thing ever.
I do hope, they come up with something competition is always good.
But the news that naughty dog is just doing a last of us remake and bends second team is just in a multiplayer last of us or uncharted seems like they are doing what xbox did during the xbox one generation of halo, gears and forza
Whatever their respond is, still doubt they will instantly drop all of their released first party titles in there let alone day one release on the service.
Well this doesn't surprise me, they had to do something otherwise they will end up losing the majority of their player base. I don't expect brand new ips to come day one to the service but what I do expect is new third party games to be added day one, all playstation exclusives last gen to be added, new 1st party titles to be added after 6 months like ea access does, ps now and ps plus merger, android/apple cloud app, games to be lowered to £60 and.....sack Jim ryan 😂
Please make it happen
There's no water in the pool. PlayStation lives doing high value blockbusters, treat indies like crap, and doesn't have big enough pockets. I'm really interested to see what form will have this (if true).
I am not interested in PlayStation at all but if there is one good thing about this is maybe it will finally shut up all those ridiculous comments about Gamepass being unsustainable and ruining the industry 🤣
Cool, hopefully, MS will have their exclusives sorted by then.
@SegataSanshiro I feel like anyone who owned a 360 knows what Microsoft are capable of. Honestly it’s one of my favourite consoles ever with so many great games. They totally screwed up last gen and I skipped the One, but now they’re bringing value back I’m more than happy to be on board with what MS are doing again while I do not like Sony’s direction.
Xbox has the stronger hardware, the most flexible platform, backwards compatibility beyond the 8th gen, and games on GP at launch.
The biggest advantage PS has is the first party titles. Other than more first party titles, I'm not sure where else they go.
The biggest thing I wanted from a PS5 was Ps1-3 BC and they did the exact opposite of that.
Honestly I don't think they have an answer to gamepass..
Playstation now and plus combined to create "playstation access" with playstation nows current line up plus a lot more ps3/vita games added and all last gen first party ps4 exclusives added and new first party games get added after 6 months, and some new third party titles added day one aswell.
£14.99 a month for the subscription service, online cloud storage, online play and 2 free games a month that aren't included with the subscription service (mainly indies)
@UltimateOtaku91 taking your games off sale so that you can put them in a monthly sub would be Nintendo level of sleeze.
I will believe it when I see it, I really don't hold much hope for them making anything decent. Going by recent events theirs more chance of Sony closing the PS Now service with no replacement, and Ryan proudly proclaiming he 'believes in generations' lol 🤣🤣😂😂
@Richnj I don't mean for Sony to take their games off sale, they would still keep the games for sale but just also add them to their subscription service
Also from what I believe e that is what EA access does aswell? After a new EA title has been out a while it gets added to its subscription service and no one has made fuss about that?
PSNow has a few problems.
First there is perception, so many still believe the platform onlu offers streaming games only.
Then there is price, until 2019 it uses to cost $20 a month, that was an absurd price, especially when even first party games rotate out, and nothing goes in day one.
Then they reduced the price to $10 a month, better price but they also lowered the yearly plan to $60. Anyone complaining how GamePass is unsustainable misses that key point, there is no yearly discount. That helps keep GP sustainable.
Finally there is the most important (noted on the old price point) that they refuse to put their games there day one and keep rotating their own games out!
Honestly, at this point their biggest issue is perception. And once they tackle that (might require rebranding) they will find themselves needing to up the price.
The only solution I can see them coming with:
PlayStation Plus Ultimate
Includes all current Plus and Now benefits
$15 a month
$120 a year (they will have a hard time going higher than that and if they go lower they will lose money)
Start offering all first party content on the service, but exclusively if the player has Plus Ultimate.
They might lose a bit of money from their 2 million Now base that happens to also have Plus and pay month to month, but that's doubtfully a hill to die on.
Sony definitely need to do something in response. Their gamers are getting mighty pissed in some quarters, with today's news that Days Gone 2 has been canned adding to that. The first game was great, and many will have been really looking forward to it. Early content was promised on both platforms, particularly the PS5, and it's absence has absolutely been felt...
@UltimateOtaku91 I think @Richnj was referring to the PS3/Vita games you suggested they should add (after they've just announced they closing the stores). That would be a pretty low.
Game Pass is a good value. I got 2 years packed in with my Series X. People with Game Pass tend to buy more games, I guess it is good for 3rd party titles that rotate out of the service. People get to test the game before they buy it and you get a discount when you do. That is the only reason why i think it is sustainable in the long term.
@dmcc0 Exactly.
@UltimateOtaku91 with the PS3 and Vita stores closing, that would be the result. Unless Sony put their PS3 and Vita titles up for sale on the PS5 also, which would be great.
I'm not sure if EA has done that. I wouldn't care a whole bunch because it is EA. Though as far as I'm aware, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Dead Space, C&C etc, are all still available for purchase on xbox and PC.
It's not the adding of games to subscription services that's an issue, it would be adding games that are no longer accessible outside of that, that would an issue.
@Richnj ah sorry yeah you're right that would be a kick in the teeth but they already offer some ps3 games on playstation now so wouldn't hurt to add a few more like first party titles, as those on ps3 and vita can still download the games they have already bought. Plus surely the amount of people who are still buying ps3 games off the ps3 store full price have to be such a small minority
@UltimateOtaku91 "Plus surely the amount of people who are still buying ps3 games off the ps3 store full price have to be such a small minority"
Definitely, but the question is "is the cost to host those games really that high?"
Steam still hosts old content, 360 still hosts old content, the bloody Wii U is still hosting old content.
Digital content is a god send to the retro scene, as they can cheaply host and cheaply sell retro games without scarcity issues, but shutting down entire stores that hosts countless exclusives and classics is just going to push people towards pirating.
And I'd rather people had a legal avenue to aquiring these games.
Don't understand how Sony could copy Game Pass in all honesty.
They have what, 12 or 13 studios? They rely a lot of timed exclusives to fill the blanks.
The only realistic scenario I can see happening is merging PS Now with PS+ and copying the EA Play model where first party games hit the service 12 months after release.
And by the time it comes out it will be too little too late scenario I think!
PlayStation can't even get close to
( Xbox Game Pass )
It all depends on your market model and where you wish to end up.
Where do you make your money etc etc.
What’s suit MICROSOFT might not suit Sony or Nintendo etc.
I stopped using my PS after LOU2 turned out to be the biggest disappointment I have even had in a game. I will never give Sony a dime. So to me it does not matter what they do.
This 'response' is both expected and very much welcomed. Imagine The Best Deal In Gaming™ being pressured to be even better. 🥳😍💯
Honestly, if they did a service for PC that was like GP I'd buy into it. I can play God of War and not have to buy a PS console.
@IronMan30 Well, PS Now is usable on PC. The most recent God of War was there for a while sometime ago, but not for long.
I know many die- hard Sony fans , who now with the shortage of ps5 consoles available, and how strong GamaPass has become , they are thinking of buying an Xbox .
So these are good news.
And please LETS DONT FORGET THE PSN 2011 flop. They can’t match the GP service
@Bmartin001
Haha I kinda fell the same thing.
His entire thing is I heard stuff. They have a counter don't worry.
But unless it hits soon it may be to little to late.
While I loved my PS4 Microsoft have always been a mile in front when it comes to online services. GamePass is one of the reasons I switched back to the xbox fold.
@NicolausCamp I know of PS Now, but streaming is inconsistent and I don't own any PS controllers. Sony improving it or making an actual GP competitor would convince me to get one, though.
They'd better tackle their atrocious backwards compatibility first, and start (re)offering those older generations of games, and do better and more advanced emulation, with similar features like on Xbox.
Other than that, they seriously need to work on their customer-friendliness, because at the current level, it sucks major balls...
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