PlayStation Has 'News To Come' On A Response To Xbox Game Pass

its always good some competition to keep lower prices and quality to game pass.

I thought this model wasn’t “sustainable”?

I wonder if it’s combined subscription for PSnow and PS+

@mousieone That model isn't sustainable for sony, Microsoft has F*** money Sony doesn't..

@Bmartin001 which is why I don’t understand how they have a “response to Gamepass”. The money Sony has they used to secure exclusives. Where as MS uses that money for GP. It just confuses me as to how it’s a response. On the other hand, if it’s combined subscription to both services; I could see that.

And also Jim Ryan is confusing.

@mousieone he's confusing because he's a liar. Hopefully they have something decent because as others have mentioned competition is good.

Given Sony stance on day one titles, that I doubt will change, best I see them do is announce a bundle of PSN Plus + Now for d
$15, and even that likely won't be that useful since I bet most people subscribe on yearly plans.

Maybe a commitment to put all their first party games into Now, no exeptions, after a year from launch, the way EA does with EA Play?

@mousieone Sony has been known to just say sh*t to trash their opponents.

I'd be happy with @Tharsman suggestion to an extent. Guarantee all First party games as part of PS Now after set time period. So long as the quality on the games do not get affected or it'll be a false economy. If they go this way and have to cap their development budgets as a response I won't be happy. Its why I prefer the status quo.
Sony without game pass and MS with.
It seems like Sony are the ones pumping out high quality AAA games while game pass spreads the wealth to the indie devs allowing more creativity on that side as well as focussing games as services. Best of both worlds currently.

If PS Now becomes a vehicle for a GP like service and Sony puts it on PC, I'll bite. Might finally play some PS exclusive games I missed last generation.

@Krzzystuff I guess he is, but doesn’t anyone think it’s weird he gave a scoop like this to a tiny little outlet in a country that doesn’t even have PSNow? I feel like based on previous interviews maybe there is something lost in translation here.

Here is the thing even Sony seems to not get:

If PSNow becomes as proportionally big as GamePass, given their install base, they will make so much more money a year than they do selling games directly, and they still will sell additional copies of their games to those that want to "own" the games or want a physical copy on their shelves.

If it does not become as successful, they they will just lose minimal amount of money since they have like 2 million users, and their games tend to sell about 10 million copies. Worst case, they will lose out on 2 million copies (and anyone with any reason knows that's not how many PSNow users would actually bother buying the game even now.)

But truth is Sony wants to nickle-and-dime their players, as proven by the increase in price of their games, that you just know will be bypassable in a few months. Just look right now, you can buy TLOU2 for $30 and Ghost of Tsushima for $40.

@mousieone likely just trying to divert the attention from the negative issues on the PS5. This guy just says whatever is needed to hype up his product... nothing wrong with that except that he lies or uses his wording perfectly to make you go with a false narrative. Everyone thought PS5 was a line in the sand and Miles Morales was the start of a new era. MS got crap for months for holding back series x with crossgen...now 2-4 year crossgen support for PS5 (Horizon, GoW all on PS4) and it's a good thing now. He knows his audience well. They didn't get my money this gen when i was fully intending to get a PS5 and they likely never will again. Hopefully he's gone sonner than later as I'm not happy with what he's doing. Good for profits, bad for gamers.

@Krzzystuff Did you seriously not buy a PS5 because this guy is a tool? I mean, fair play. I'm just far too shallow. I got a PS5 to play their exclusives and I'll do the same with Series X (once I can bl**dy get one!). Hell, they could have Trump working for them once he finally leaves his office and sprouting even worse garbage than Jim does and as long as they have games worth playing I'll bite.

@StonyKL lol not just cuz he's a tool but partially. I'm a casual gamer so gamepass is really great for me. I missed last gen and I'm new to Xbox so all games are new to me. As they kept unavailing PS5 details i became worried about quality as it looked like they just boosted it last minute to reduce the power gap and the use of liquid metal sounded dodgy as well. I'm happy that i switched seeing all the issues it's having and the money grabbing that Sony is doing. I honestly believe they were caught totally off guard by MS and they should have held of a year to sort it out but they were scared of loosing the market to the series S and gamepass...greed won out in the end... likely a big reason is the tool in charge.

@mousieone This is what I hope it is.

@Snake_V5 it makes the most sense to me. Well that and combining the sub price. Especially with this article going up https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/11/sony_unsure_if_ps_plus_collection_will_expand_with_more_games

Other wise the two interviews literally contradict each other.

@mousieone I guess a response to Gamepass doesn't need to be a Gamepass model but more something just as enticing.

I hate Jim Ryan and don't think he represents PlayStation in my eyes. He's just a corporate mouthpiece who wants to saturate any IP that does remotely well.

Jim Ryan is an arrogant buffoon. Every time he opens his mouth, it’s like 🤦‍♂️.

And us Xbox fans can identify an arrogant buffoon pretty well. We had Don Mattrick.

Oh and also..... ?!$& Don Mattrick.

@mousieone Of course Jim is confusing. He's a corporate mouthpiece with feet. Anyone who utters phrases like "using my executive bandwidth" lost their connection to humanity long before.

Granted, Phil flip-flops too, often enough. And his latest was indicating more or less Bethesda exclusivity and $60 game prices, and then the CFO has basically been saying the exact opposite. But somehow when Phil does that he seems like he got ahead of himself and said things he planned rather than things decided. Jim comes across as though he consulted the focus group and was told a different truth will play better in the wider market.

This is the guy doubling down on "825GB is fine, I have the data to prove it!"

@NEStalgia well honestly Phil does have a tendency to get ahead of himself. Like he more less confirmed a Switch version of GP which clearly wasn’t in the cards at that time. He gets excited about things and that’s an issue as well. He talks too much and I’m sure gets himself in trouble at Corp.

The Bethesda exclusivity is not quite that though. Phil basically said they don’t need the Sony install base to recoup the money, which they don’t. And that Switch only versions of things don’t make sense. Fans took that to mean Bethesda is exclusive, but if you see what he first said It’s case by case.

Ryan doesn’t seem genuine for one. For another he seems like everything he does is planned included his interviews. So when he does this stuff it’s harder to believe it’s accidental. Rather planned to make himself, not necessarily Sony looks good. He seems out for himself and not for his company :/

@Kefka2589 I’m inclined to see it that way as well. For Bethesda. Though I do feel strongly that new IP might be locked MS, as well as smaller creative projects like Grounded was. MS basically bought Obsidian for Avowed; it’s conceivable they really wanted Starfield exclusively. I just don’t see it as making good sense to put smaller project on other platforms. It might be great for a short Gamepass game but would have a huge overhead to put on other platforms... okay I’m digressing

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Look I’d love a PC version of Gamepass but helmed by Sony. I just don’t like Ryan and I’m not this interview was actually that cut n dry. I seriously do think it is something lost in translation and he might have been referring to expanding PSNow for Russia.

Game Pass is a lot more appealing than PS Now because you can download the games as opposed to streaming them. Not everyone has a super-fast hyper-consistent internet connection with an unlimited data cap.

PS Plus and PS Now going together is all but bad. Especially with a 3-years-for-100-dollars deal.

@Bartig try the $1 game pass ultimate conversion. Ends up around the same price for a way better service if you shop wisely for Xbox gold.

Jesus, reading through comments just shows how limited some people’s imagination is.

Sony’s AAA titles are one of the most sold titles in the industry. Putting them into something like game pass day one would simply mean losing a lot of money. But there can be other things they can put into PS+ or PS Now, such as titles like Dreams or Concrete Genie on day one.

Calling Jim a corporate mouthpiece just because you can’t grasp what he means. Having an answer to game pass does not mean that he lied about it not being unsustainable. All they seem to do is trying to find some solution in between all that.

@tatsumi Looks it’s not an issue of lacking imagination. Thanks I have plenty. And I’ll try not to personally insult you as you see to have done here. (Try avoid it next time please and thanks.)

It’s an issue of Ryan using the unspoken word to get people to believe one thing when really he means another. It’s actually lying by omission. If we take the statement “we believe in generations” controversy. Did he lie? No not technically. But sending out a confusing message?

Ryan is clearly using a volatile point in the market to paint a picture for that makes him look good and his adversaries look not so good m. Defend his actions all you want; it doesn’t change the facts that negative articles were published by media.

You’re telling me that was “accidental”.

So yes his statements are confusing.

@mousieone good observation about both of them. Jim absolutely screams "politician/lobbyist material" to me. I REALLY dislike that guy. I miss Layden and a prominent Shu Yoshida.

It's just business. Both companies are the same, it's the appearance that's different.

Yeah, I can absolutely see a merging of PS+ and PSNow, though will mean they need to make available to more countries (as PSNow is not an option in Australia).

The numpties from the sister site, waffling about GamePass not being sustainable and S not able to survive the generation is complete ignorance to borderline idiocy.

They need to bundle PS Now with the PS+ subscription, and then actually start offering some decent first party games on there.
I mean, who's paying $70/£70 for Sackboy? That's a Game Pass fodder style game right there. Should have gone straight to PS Now.

For now I honestly don't want sony to go the gamepass route as I believe eventually the quality of games will fall, give it a few years to see how the games and developers on gamepass fare first and if they are "all" making more profits than they would just selling digital/physical

I haven't seen any article saying all multiplats are running worst on series x (ac, dirt 5, 2k, legion etc...) or that series x is not really the world most powerful console.

But you talk about this because it makes xbox seem has a lead in general.

@Trmn8r Exactly what I was talking about.